Historian Anne Applebaum on how Russia's war in Ukraine will end | DW Interview

Anne Applebaum is a Pulitzer Prize-winning historian and political analyst who writes for the Atlantic. She has written extensively about central and eastern Europe. DW's Teri Schulz asked her for her asessment of what the geopolitical consequences of Russia's War in Ukraine are, and how she thinks it will end.
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[@Harrzack]

The war is such an insane waste of life & money. 🤦‍♀️🥶

[@bohomazdesign725]

Straight to the point without bullshitting around the topic. She truly deserves the Polish citizenship.

[@medic145]

She deserves to go to free public school and learn history, before to deceive people

[@Diesel629]

@@boterberg278passing gas

[@elbibwen3019]

@@boterberg278 ( I've heard that Putin eats two Ukrainian babies every morning for breakfast 😵‍💫 that's your level )

[@Western_Decline]

@@boterberg278 Europe will be at war until the West learns to compromise and not gaslight. Until then, enjoy more war. The defense contractors are celebrating.

[@scepticalwalker3984]

@@medic145 you seem desperate Ivan, with nonsensical comments like that. 😂

[@shwemoor]

Precise, concise, and to the point; could not be more lucid with her observation the World and Europe are forever changed.

[@BojanPeric-kq9et]

Lucid? Hardly.

[@dominiquedominique6462]

Glad to hear she admitted so many are to blame for not taking the early signs seriously. She is so spot on in this interview! 🙏

[@danstrayer111]

occupation of Crimea should have been a real wake-up

[@ennediend2865]

@@danstrayer111 Absolutely 👍 Cowardice but also corrupt western elites , Russian money flowing everywhere, not only in "Londongrad" !!...

[@dominiquedominique6462]

@Dan Strayer Yes, but the world barely noticed then.... And before we had Georgia, Chechnya, Aleppo. Even house bombings in Moscow. I guess the truth about those houses will be hard to get now, with Litwinienko murdered. But anyway, we deal with evil and it is really essential to help Ukraine all the way to seriously guaranteed safety, victory and the borders from 1991.

[@adbogo]

She could not be more wrong.

[@skymaster4121]

@@adbogo she has a PhD and you havent, she has used her life on learning history while you use it surfing on KZbin, so I take my bet on her being right, and you being wrong

[@rbct]

It was the first time in a year that anyone had actually explained what is likely to happen to Europe. She's no joke.

[@Evan490BC]

No, completely untrue. Milan Kundera, for example, has been saying these things since the '80s.

[@tcp-cd9tv]

She is a joke!

[@rhysioeren3203]

1000% agreed, first really objective and realistic answers I have heard about this matter since it started. It is not about optimism, but glad to hear something different than nuclear war and western countries will triumph, and all those unnecessary ideas.

[@braxtondamico3599]

It doesn’t have to be, it’s to damn simple to take out the rot in Russia, something’s not kosher about all this.

[@bogtrottername7001]

@@braxtondamico3599 So, what do you suggest ?

[@juliancoulden1753]

Congratulations to the interviewer and to the interviewed. Clarity, intelligent and insightful analysis. Instead of the usual political mashup we are accustomed to.

[@Western_Decline]

Interviewing one side of the conflict without ever allowing opposition voices: Western mainstream journalism Support the empire’s forever wars

[@darktube8712]

Hypocrite USA

[@edubogota1]

And most importantly straight to the point, no bullshitting.

[@christianevanherck6023]

@@Western_Decline Russia sells weapons to corrupt governments and dictatorships. Russia uses its military industrial complex to seize territory or to install or protect a dictator.

[@timmanning5357]

The perennial question about a diplomatic end to the war hardly deserved answering. After what Russia has done nothing short of a complete withdrawal of Russian forces and the return of the Russian occupied territory is the end game here.

[@TobyRoberts]

wait...she thinks we had the idea that "the borders of europe were unchangeable"? what planet has she been on? Completely weird thing for a historian to say! The borders have changed constantly throughout history but even just recently they've still been changing eg. Kosovo.

[@calicocat8213]

She's a fanatical Rusophobe who stretches actual history any way she seems fit.

[@JenabeSaber]

The irony though is, when she said: " we have to help Russia to get to the point...". We all know what does helping other countries really mean, especially, when the other country is not from NATO!!

[@vikik4714]

Do we have other options?

[@est9949]

Yo Putin bots, stop shamelessly twisting the truth. Ukranian civillians are being killed by Russian soldiers and weapon, and that's the problem at hand. Whatevery you said is insincere at best.

[@riesjart1000]

If NATO countries do something bad it doesn't mean that it's good to do it too. It should both be condemned. As a world citizen I saw that Iraq was being destroyed and now I see Ukraine being destroyed. But now you're actually saying that if NATO does something then it's bad but if Russia does the same thing it's good.

[@JenabeSaber]

@@vikik4714 As a VNP ( very normal people) we never really have any choice or option... That's why no matter how many people around the world are against this war, the war march is played louder and louder every single day with no sign of peace.

[@JenabeSaber]

@@riesjart1000 I totally agree with you, however, as a world citizen too, I witnessed Iran revolution followed by 8 years war against Iraq, both orchestrated and conducted by West. So I'm realistically pessimistic about their intentions and hidden agendas. That's all.

[@zorglub667]

now here we have an effective communicator. more from her please.

[@antimatters6283]

Anne Applebaum has good, frequent writings at places like The Atlantic. She is a key contributor there.

[@zorglub667]

@@antimatters6283 thanks for that tip! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@Tjvaara]

Agreed 👍

[@darktube8712]

Hypocrite USA

[@antimatters6283]

@@darktube8712 says "Hypocrite USA" DarkTube, we are all laughing that this weak, nutcase, two word comment. The trolls these days just can't seem to get the job done.

[@greystone2594]

Imagine having a neighbour who thinks aggression, violence and theft is an acceptable way to meet it's needs. .

[@ricbace]

well... Imagine that you have Oil reserves... and USA is always willing to invade you to take that..

[@goranrajcevic5550]

Don't make fun of me for living in Canada

[@christianevanherck6023]

In the 20th century, Ukrainians striving for their own identity and independent state were executed, deported to Siberia, tortured and jailed. The most massive murder of Ukrainians took place during the 1932-33 Great Famine genocide (known as the Holodomor in Ukrainian), during which millions of deaths were recorded. During the 400 years of occupation of Ukrainian lands by the Russian Empire, and then the Soviet Union, the use of the Ukrainian language was banned 134 times by the Russian government. It also banned the Ukrainian church, printing of Ukrainian books, traditional songs, Ukrainian-language schools, theaters and libraries. It confiscated religious books and declared Ukrainian cultural activities to be harmful.

[@terryshaw1134]

Yeah I live north of the USA.

[@mihiec]

Sounds like USA...

[@juliansmith6329]

Did I just enter an alternative universe?

[@anton1713]

Why do you think that?

[@thorkushari4027]

​@@anton1713 Another chicken hawk from the same coop as neocons such as Kissinger, Albright, and Nuland.

[@squirrelandchick9484]

From a Russian perspective both Nato and the EU have been moving. They have seen borders moving for decades and previously understood that they wouldn't. Not an inch further east.

[@anmnou]

“When people show you who they are, believe them the first time" -Maya Angelou

[@mkodyChallengesYOu]

Who was she discussing ?

[@dpeasehead]

@@user-sj9mj3bf2m Oppressing a group of people for hundreds of years on several continents certainly shows the oppressors as they truly are no matter what their rhetoric says about them or their intentions or about their alleged values.

[@censortube3778]

Love the way she claims Putin is ambitious for supporting Syria while ignoring the, fact that America has troops in Syria RIGHT NOW. Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, but hey, its ok, when we do it

[@pacificocean9682]

What you got to say about Iraq war in the 20th anniversary when 1.4 millions were killed This lady is out of her mind

[@minsapint8007]

I loved the reference to Britain in Ireland and France in Algeria. That was on point.

[@macswad]

I'm not sure why Anne chose to mention Britain in Ireland. That situation bears absolutely no resemblance to Russia in Ukraine.

[@pwaegemans]

@@macswad Actually it does. Great Britain ( England, the UK) is a former colonist who regarded Ireland as a part of the British empire and has invaded Irish sovereignty on multiple occasions.

[@macswad]

@@pwaegemans I don't think it does because of the timeline. English people had settled in Ireland (& vice versa) long before the definition of sovereignty, or ideas of Empire & even during the Empire people from Ireland served in the British Army. The Irish fought & won their Independence over 100 years ago. UK also supports the principle of the right to self determination & has done so since the 1940's which is why it gave away the world's largest empire without a shot being fired (in most cases!) . During this interview Anne has mis-stated Putin's War Aims. Putin does not want to invade & occupy Ukraine. He merely wants to stop it joining both NATO & the Empire of the EU. Failing to understand Putin is a serious mis-calculation. But at least Anne admits in the interview she failed to see War coming even though almost anyone could have predicted it. Long before Putin came to Power. I'm not quite sure how Anne managed to win the Pulitzer Prize. I'll guess I will have to read her books.

[@johnkeane1419]

@@macswad Yes, she is quite midwit. Americans know very little about the wider world beyond profits and soundbytes.

[@Purple_flower09]

@@macswad no Putin wants to occupy Ukraine, install a puppet, and sit back. That's the war aims.

[@mkodyChallengesYOu]

03:20 ×^ what about France and West Africa What about usa in Syrian oil fields and crop fields

[@0zoneTherapyW0rks]

Grayzone article The real casualties of Russia's 'civil war'? The Beltway "expert" class

[@sargonofakad]

Glad to hear this!

[@sonomacalendar9949]

Last time I looked at the map Iraq was not next to the US

[@paulrousseau9144]

Shhhh ... We're only supposed to talk about Russia, Russia, Russia. Wave that blue and yellow flag!

[@raydunn2582]

For intelligence, clarity and common sense Miss Applebaum is right up there with Ben Hodges. Would like to hear more from her.

[@christianevanherck6023]

She recently had an online conversation about Ukraine with Bill Kristol.

[@Western_Decline]

She is a neo-con Pentagon mouthpiece who defends US empire’s dominance over the world.

[@darktube8712]

Hypocrite USA

[@vkrajuk]

The war will end only after Russia uses nuclear weapons in Europe 😂😂😂

[@judgegrinch1139]

She wrote Red Famine and I highly recommend it

[@johndehaan2764]

Very insightful commentary from this woman, and what was asserted by her is accurate, contemporary and pertinently realistic in the context of the reality under which we all are functioning, Putin is an echo of a bygone era expressing sentiments of a modus operandi which no longer exists.

[@Tobipop]

I agree with you Putin is a echo of a bygone era allso I think once Ukraine goes in to Crimea Russia gonna collapse.

[@trexmidnite]

Being a cucumber in short..

[@mjdayetube]

?? If it no longer exists how does it exist?

[@edb3877]

@@mjdayetube It is a shadow from the past, like many other things that occurred throughout history but no longer exist today.

[@adbogo]

Listen to John Mearsheimer for a change and try to draw your own conclusions.

[@TheTopOfTheWorld]

She didn't answer the question about NATO expansion.

[@cidercik]

Anne is the foremost expert on Ukraine and russia. What she says about the war is well worth listening to and reading.

[@noelgenoway9360]

Very smart lady!!!

[@rbcrbc7913]

I would add historian Timothy Snyder to that list. His Yale lectures from last autumn, "The Making of Modern Ukraine," are right here on YT. He illustrates the real history of the region that Putin twists into lies to suit his needs.

[@thefpvlife7785]

Trump has a say 😅😂

[@edb3877]

She is a person who, when she chooses to speak, we all should choose to listen.

[@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg]

@@rbcrbc7913 I would also mention Vlad Vexler

[@bandit2048]

Ann attended a conference I was at in Poland held by the Kresy organization. She is an excellent speaker and a thoroughly researched historian. I was spurred on to buy and read her book 'A History of the Soviet Camps'. My mother was taken to one of these camps from eastern Poland so I was told first hand what it was like. My father was a Russian prisoner of war in Starobielsk. The Poles and eastern european countries have long memories of their wars with the Russians and occupations - none of it pleasant. Moral is - never ever trust the Russians.

[@azekuka3478]

My family spent four terrible years in a concentration camp in Austria. Great mountain air, happy work in paradise. The Germans have already come to teach the life of Russians, now this is the last time. The government of the West is hidden from the people and ostentatious democracy will not surprise us. Yes, all your dishonestly acquired assets taken from the people will be taken back. So the EU empire will be destroyed. Freedom to the peoples of the world!

[@ruslankbr5243]

Trust Germans when they give you a chance to steal Chechoslovakia territory after Munich)

[@pinchebruha405]

They don’t trust each other rather sad, Putin is right the greatest crime against Russia was the murder of the Royal Family… a lesson for humanity is that neither the rich nor the poor should be in charge of countries

[@cadenrolland5250]

It'll be a hundred years before anyone ever trusts Russia again, if it even exists that long.

[@ruslankbr5243]

@@cadenrolland5250 no all will trust USA because they promised to Russians that they will not move one inch eastward with NATO enlargement when Gorbachev removed Soviet troops from Germany. Than they withdraw from three agreements about weapon in Europe without any consultation with Russia, than promised in 2008 that Ukraine will be NATO member but did not do this only provoking Russians to fight with Ukraine. Even today they speak with highest level of hypocrisy that Serbia should recognise that Kosovo with US military base is an independent state! When Trump became president he denied all previous agreements of Obama with Iran…I can continue but I am tired to count all US government lies even in USA there are courageous people who don’t fear to blame their government in cheating in policy, Jeffry Sachs, Tulsi Gabbard, John Mearsheimer and many others.

[@bfcmik]

Thank you for helping clarifying my thoughts, fears and hopes for how this pointless war will end. The lady was very clear and insightful and the interviewer helped with her leading questions. Good stuff DW

[@bryanr.4947]

You should learn to think for yourself for a change.

[@bfcmik]

@@bryanr.4947 Oh, I do! But thinking for yourself needs for you to listen to other people's views and evidence rather than relying on pure ignorance to determine my ideas

[@TicoM0la]

Basically she knows as much as I do about whats gonna happen...

[@davidnelson3026]

Time for the free world to get their act together and defend democracy, or else we will lose our freedom . . . .

[@christianevanherck6023]

Putin is clearly worried about a democratic Ukraine being allowed to gain strength and prosper, because it will most likely inspire Russians to seek similar changes in their own country. In other words, Putin regards the existence of a free and democratic Ukraine as an existential threat to the future of his own autocratic regime.

[@MrManny075]

What do you mean by the free world? Who is the free world? This is the problem them and us they are the bad guys we are the good ones, and we need to protect ourselves from them, the bad ones, it is called divide and conquer, Fact of life is no one is perfect and no one has any right to claim to be one.

[@ericp1139]

Please. You only have the freedom and democracy as long as you do what the US says. That’s not freedom.

[@heinrichkleist3473]

After reading Anne Applebaum's Between East and West, I think that she is probably the last person on Earth to be surprised by Russia's continued atrocities. Too many of us have either forgotten history or else never really new it in the first place. A quick read of Applebaum's books will reveal what a horror show Russia is.

[@richardmoloney689]

Totally agreed. Fab writer. Did you read her Holodomor book?

[@AZ-vu3wu]

Who are you speaking of that forgot? Poland and Baltic states always remember

[@ennediend2865]

Fully agreed 👍

[@ennediend2865]

@@AZ-vu3wu They know the price of freedom and most of all , they know the Russians better than we do 🧐

[@p.h.3987]

I am 58 and European and I have NOT forgotten. You should not draw from yourself and your own ignorance to others. RuSSia has ALWAYS been a terror state. Also, when it called itself Soviet Union.

[@consciouscrypto3090]

I like how she compared what Russia needs to learn now with what her allies (England and France) had to learn relative to Ireland and Algeria. It's not that the West is pure and Russia is completely an outlier. It's just that apparently Russia is a bit slower to learn.

[@jamesthomas4841]

That is a good point Britain and France have come to terms with loss of empire Russia needs to do the same.

[@kosarkosar7683]

This is not only happening to the Ukrainian empire, for example, nations wanted to free themselves from the British empire, the British had to come to terms with it. Realistically speaking, if you don't have a strong enough army, you have to make compromises with the people under the yoke, but if you have enough power, you don't have to and you can suppress any rebellion and repel anyone who would help free them.

[@stephengillott9435]

Like your take on the interview and have to agree.👍👍

[@stephenhill545]

Russia is a more militaristic culture than Britain and France, and doesn't have a strong economy, as Britain and France had. Its decline is pretty much assured.

[@stephenhill545]

@@kosarkosar7683 russia lost its empire because its economy is weak, and its still weak. Attacking Ukraine will just make things worse for Russia.

[@sarahjones79]

Sounds like they decided this ahead of time. Why not ask her why NATO kept moving east?

[@jabberwockytdi8901]

It's a shame the opportunity was missed to convert the former Warsaw Pact countries that entered the EU into a neutral central european "Treaty Organisation" - which could easliy have added Sweden, Finland and the Baltic states, maybe later the former Yugoslavian states, to create a buffer between Russia and NATO. Russia could not have objected to that in the same way as the expansion of NATO, so that would have thwarted Putins expansion plans much more effectively than the eastern expansion of NATO that actually happened.

[@BailelaVida]

Excellent comment. Thanks

[@FadedResolutions]

Direct... intelligent answers. None of that vague BS weve been getting fed for the past couple years. This woman means business and I love it. More from her please.

[@tiborzkarate1]

She just designated Russia as evil and basically declared war on Russia like Churchill did 1956 Fulton , Missouri.

[@davidlgti1]

Was literally thinking the same exact thing you wrote while watching the interview.

[@Konservator69]

I am not protecting Putin, he is 100% a killer, but the lady made a number of serous biases contradicting objective facts: 1) "European borders are unchangeable" - Kosovo strongly disagrees with her. As well as Northern Cyprus and the fact Turkey is still a NATO member 2) "Putin started war in Georgia" - wft? Official United Nations position clearly stated that Georgia was the side which started the warfare in 2008. 3) She accused Russia with interference into Syria, but strangely forgot about about USA or UK made the same. Sounds like a hypocrisy to be honest.

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

Wish the women in politics in the USA were as intelligent as her.

[@3John-Bishop]

​@@michaelmichaelagnew8503we We get AOC

[@jbbeiser983]

Still no news on northstreem sabotage?

[@MaitreyaNow]

Serious lack of autocriticism. Perhaps we should think twice before pursuing regime change strategies. Seems to backfire a lot.

[@jorgealves3436]

Well spoken, Ms Applebaum!

[@niallodonnell7827]

'There's no one to talk to' -perfectly put

[@bramposthumus9300]

Exactly. The first thing that needs to happen is that the Russian leadership needs to be jolted out of its collective imperialist psychosis.

[@stuartbarker9373]

Clear, precise and concise. I've no idea who Anne Applebaum is but I'm going to seek out her commentary on stuff in the future. Why can't politicians engage with journalists like she does?

[@glassmuxxic]

Her books are very well researched and very readable

[@AnneliedeWet]

​@@glassmuxxic So is Donald Duck

[@scambammer6102]

she is a journalist

[@a0flj0]

She's not a politician. She can afford not to cater to the majority's whims. Most politicians can't - at least not if they want to be successful.

[@hangeron718]

In fact there is politican that was engaged with her( former Polish foreign affairs minister). Now they're married.

[@trig33kgirl]

This is my favorite news channel. (Being from USA, all our news is sensationalized to maximize profits)

[@justhikeit]

Why add a comment? Someone just takes it down shortly after posting it.

[@einroboter1301]

DW, there is another Pulitzer winner you can talk with on Nord Stream.

[@chidimarvels]

@Null Pointer Why have they not covered it? I hope you enjoy the Sheep life.

[@Tongue_Twister]

She is married to the Polish politician Radosław Sikorski, who said several years ago that he is more afraid of German passivity than German tanks on Polish territory.

[@guciodestroyer2432]

Yes, he is famous in Poland for such controversial statements.

[@herbertvonzinderneuf8547]

Silly man, to say that.

[@rb3058]

Then he is not a clever man. German tanks will certainly not defend land that is actually German and was occupied by Poland in 1945. That is simply unacceptable in Germany. In fact, the majority of Germans would probably pop the corks if Russia invaded Poland. Until then, Poland does not exist in the perception of most Germans.

[@KenDavies-qv3fs]

Thank you for honest comments.

[@Phil27939]

Dear ms. Ann, The war only end when both the Western Europe and Russia share a same vision on how they should live peacefully next to each other, with no pushing, no provocation, no brainwashing to raise hatred, etc. If you, and also European leaders, still assume only Russia has to take responsibility, and /or Russia must bear some heavy consequences, then this war won't be ended the way you want.

[@johnshaw8327]

I wouldn't call her Dear.

[@IRACEMABABU]

FYI, Putin invaded Ukraine. Europe didn't. Putin has more to learn than WE.

[@moon-walker-one]

What kind of responsibility Ivan?

[@Phil27939]

​@@moon-walker-one Figure it out boy. e.g. Huge mushroom, armageddon, apocalypse, things like that.

[@slicklandy7819]

Where are you from? Russia has never been like that and we will never be like that

[@PMMagro]

Clear and sober analysis with no focus on the interviewer or guest/expert. Great!

[@adrien5834]

@@Istenenergia No such guarantee was ever given, if it had been you could produce the document, and you can't. Do you think international agreements rest on the say-so of a known liar like Putin? Clearly you are the propagandist here.

[@wh5202]

Very good explanation!👍👍👍👍👍

[@alvin8391]

Pres Putin has been forced to defend his country against NATO's effort to fence it in with NATO military based on its western and southern borders, in Ukraine and in Georgia. Yes, Europe has taken irreversible steps that have been self-destructive. It has underestimated the strength of Russia and the courage of Pres Putin in defending his country.

[@agritech802]

More importantly, we ignored the signs that China was becoming an aggressor and may already be too difficult to defend against

[@ihorperec4990]

No, it's not "more importantly". China might be strong and resurgent but unlike Russia it is not bent on extending its territory and destroying the world order. China is an economic rival, not an existential threat to humankind.

[@agritech802]

@@ihorperec4990 ok, I'll bet you €5 that China will invade or blockade Taiwan in the next 5 years 🙂

[@IRACEMABABU]

@@ihorperec4990 Who said that, but you ??????????

[@irynapolzikova7446]

She makes very good points

[@jimbo5603]

Comparing the situation with Russia to either France or Great Britain is extremely inappropriate

[@MG-mb6mj]

0:17 That part was broken 2008 when *kosovo declare independence backed by west

[@mavigogun]

I guess you forgot about the whole Serbs launching a genocidal campaign on their neighbors thing, huh? It always amazes me how Serbs attempt to style THEMSELVES as the true victims of their crimes!

[@MG-mb6mj]

so it's ok to change a border if you have excuse? Perheps we should change German border? Look what Hitelr did

[@MG-mb6mj]

@@mavigogun and yes we shoud name those who comited crimes by name and surname (not generalise or etiqueting whole nation) You will have my suport fot taht, we will make world better place

[@mavigogun]

@@MG-mb6mj How do you suggest we remove ethnicity from Serbia's ethnic warfare? By not nominating it? It's not fair that good people in Serbia are saddled with the ethno-nationalism championed by their fellow citizens- but this is what takers always do, projecting cost onto others. If Serbia is to have a better reputation, it will be earned by Serbians; putting the responsibility onto anyone else is wishful- at best.

[@user-sx1jb8gc6s]

One thing the last 3 years of covid taught us is that the "experts" don't know.

[@ttown918]

I'd like to see Ukraine win, but I think ultimately they will lose or see a statelmate (losing eastern Ukraine and Crimea). I think Ukraine simply doesn't have enough human personnel to acheive a different outcome.

[@dollarbar1]

She must be delirious

[@lionelpayette4628]

Anne Applebaum is a well-spoken and very intelligent woman. Every peace-loving person should watch this video. 👍👍👍👍👍

[@pitmarkovic4545]

What,this People all bla bla only!!Why WE are in This Point are so People on the Top!!!You can Go in every Country all People Like together over the Border No War and Help each other!!This People Not a Nuff you understude, sorry for Bad write✌️

[@scrambaba]

War-loving more like it. Her position guarantees continued war and escalation.

[@ericp1139]

How is she peace-loving? She is advocating eternal war and the disintegration of Ukraine. Literally nothing she said leads to peace.

[@rons5319]

Ha She is a big war monger.

[@ebiekem]

"peace-loving" indeed..

[@omvegan]

Except that the United States with England and Canada as its partners wants to maintain its empire.

[@paulrousseau9144]

It's not imperialism when the United States does it. Only bad Russia has imperialist ambitions. /sarcasm

[@BailelaVida]

@@paulrousseau9144 Exactly..

[@Frank50505]

Well said.

[@peterhaslund]

Yes, because everyone knows historians can foresee the future!

[@bixbysnyder-00]

"361 days into my 3 day war, I am still master strategist" -Vladimir Putin

[@deepaks4370]

Lol, it is just taking slightly longer than originally anticipated....

[@zollen123]

Is Putin tired of being wrong all the time?

[@danutajelska3629]

Except he is neither

[@jerryrichardson2799]

Nope, putin is a master of BS, lol! When the Saudi royal family can tell you to suck an egg, you're not that powerful.

[@gilh3947]

@@zollen123 No fascist never grow tired of being wrong.

[@DarthWaffle.]

“This war has changed Europe forever”, has been said 10,000x throughout Europe’s history.

[@mavigogun]

So? Folks have also said "beautiful sunset"- repetition doesn't use up truth.

[@silencemeviolateme6076]

WWII changed Asia forever. No big deal?

[@twestgard2]

I was thinking the same thing, the opening quote is pretty lame. The rest of her commentary, about complacency and lack of caution, is more useful.

[@mavigogun]

@@Exxperiment626 Far from it- rather, their response is informed from the deep scars they bear.

[@jaaksavat7916]

@Darth Waffle only 'Rome' moved from being in Italy within the Roman empire and is presently in Washington DC

[@vicic1]

Europe should be independent and protect own interests.

[@chikanjoku9884]

This war is a very horrible mistake. There are more ways than one to resolve issues, war is not one of them. Diplomacy was, is and remains the only way to resolving conflicts.

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

Europe forgot all the mistakes of the Post WW1 world, and still keeps flirting with repeating them. Like Appeasement.

[@Lepice99]

Excellent comments. Thank you.

[@revitisfun]

good interview.. and i was enlightened.. thanks

[@concernedliberal4453]

For those who haven't yet read "Gulag" by Anne Applebaum, I highly recommend you pick up a copy.

[@ms.annthrope415]

Sober and quite depressing, yet a light on a long repressed subject.

[@khubza8999]

GULAG was ANOTHER RUSSIA. She's a neocon for perpetual war.Who told her Russia is trying to rebuild an empire? See Prof Mearsheimer's research on this claim. This is all about weakening Russia by projecting upon it "IMPERIAL DESIGNS" to keep people afraid, the PROXY war going, and Ukrainians dying . Why did NATO expand? Why did NATO offer membership to Georgia and Ukraine? The Maidan "revolution"--was it a US coup? She mentions Syria... why does the US have a base in Syria-- to siphon off the oil? Is pushing "regime change" in other countries not an imperial policy? Then the US is in the same boat using Ukraine as a proxy they can use to fight a war the Americans and Europeans do not have to die in.

[@concernedliberal4453]

@@khubza8999 I don't know much about your other points, but I agree with you that GULAG was indeed another Russia and I don't at all wish to demonize today's Russians for the atrocities of the Soviet Union.

[@charmainekirk1512]

Absolutely agree!

[@elaineread15]

She's completely forgotten about the break up of Yugoslavia.

[@channelfiftyfive055]

Correct, Ma'am. The Balkans war of 1990s proved beyond doubt, security is always tenuous at best Can't believe she didn't mention it

[@citynomad13]

What has that to do with the current war? Yugoslavia broke down internally. There is no comparison.

[@cnburbridge]

She is so great!

[@jameshood1928]

Excellent interview. No new insights, but good clarity in identifying the current state of affairs and possible outcomes.

[@jaishimaleladharsingh2593]

Great Interview Anne Applebaum

[@hagestad]

Her husband was even better telling straight forward on Twitter that US blowed up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

[@dennydiante2434]

ms applebaum forgets that Putin warned for years the consequences if Nato continued to push toward Russia's borders - treaty was signed in 2014 but that didn't stop Nato's advancement.

[@alteredcatscyprus]

She is being dishonest.

[@aldofromsf]

Respect!

[@galvk]

Every war changes the worlds, but nobody learns the lessons. Empires will exist forever. Only the form of oppression has changed a little.

[@ankurpriyadarshan]

rightly said......no one learns.......no one would ever learn......

[@Alan-cl2ix]

Everyone also said Covid will change the world but nothing changed, same old ways. Same thing with 9/11 etc. Only great wars like WW2 can change the world, other events are forgotten within a week after.

[@mickeysimon3789]

Empires will fall as they always do

[@Matthew-rz3io]

Annie Applebomb! She is loving this

[@LUNGILEBANA-us7jv]

Clear sober and onesided.

[@biscaynediver]

A+. She is clear-eyed, sober and direct.

[@ruslankbr5243]

She is pure hawk of war in classical form. She will smile even if half of Ukraine will be killed.

[@clementchishimba180]

When I hear her talk like that I feel for Ukraine people it means more weapons more suffering more distraction they are not welling to support Ukraine for peace every war in history ended in dialogue

[@DyzioTheDreamer]

Unless the politicians are sent to the front line and do the fighting themselves, this war will drag out for years on end. When I hear people like Ann Appelbaum spew their wisdom I feel both for Ukrainian lads and for Russian lads.

[@DavidThompson-cg6hh]

Politicians don't listen! When they do it is only to hear what they want to hear! In the same way they only answer the question they think you should have asked, not what you did ask!

[@billkallas1762]

The Russian/Ukraine war has brought Europe closes together than they ever have been.

[@CellarDoorCS]

Anne is my fav to listen to, such a smart lady!

[@korpiz]

I don’t think this changed anything, wars are just exactly what’s been happening in Europe for thousands of years. This is just the normal.

[@garyg6000]

Beautifully and clearly said !!

[@vmsangar8029]

how many wars did us started..and for what reason?

[@mavigogun]

Focus, dude- all of Europe is rallying to stop Putler's genocidal ambitions for a renewed Soviet Empire through military conquest- you know, the EXACT thing NATO was created to prevent. Yet, here you are, attempting to blame the US for Russia's murder, rape, and theft. No sale, comrade.

[@christianevanherck6023]

A list of USSR/Russian military invasions and occupations: 1 Poland (1939-1956) 2 Baltic states (1940-1991) 3 Finnish territories (1940) 4 Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina (1940) 5 After the Soviet Union entered the war on the Allied side 5.1 Iran (1941-1946) 5.2 Hungary (1944) 5.3 Romania (1944) 5.4 Bulgaria (1944) 5.5 Czechoslovakia (1944) 5.6 Northern Norway (1944-1946) 5.7 Bornholm, Denmark (1945-1946) 5.8 Germany (1945) 5.9 Austria (1945-1955) 5.10 Manchuria (1945-1946) 5.11 Korea (1945-1948) 5.12 Kuril Islands (1945) 6 Cold War 6.1 Hungarian Revolution of 1956 6.2 Czechoslovakia (1968-1989) 6.3 Afghanistan (1979-1989) 7 Moldova (1990-1992 still partially occupied today) 8 Chechnya (1999-today) 9 Abkhazia and South Ossetia, Georgia (2008-today) 10 Crimea, Ukraine (2014-today) 10.1 Parts of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, Ukraine (2014-today) 11 Syrian intervention (2015-today)

[@glenncordova4027]

Three

[@mavigogun]

@@Exxperiment626 There is no justification for Putler's genocidal campaign in Ukraine. This isn't commerce.

[@mavigogun]

@@Exxperiment626 That's true- Ukraine is enjoying the support of the free and democratic constituents of the EU because of who they have shown themselves to be. Meanwhile, Russia has no allies, only trade partners, such as Iran and North Korea, and is rejected by good people everywhere. Putler's Russia has joined the infamy of Stalin, an unforced tragedy born of sociopathic greed.

[@burakayan3360]

Eu become more and more dependent to usa.

[@scepticalwalker3984]

Less and less dependent on the US. There is a separate European lesson learnt now when dealing with the russian dictatorship.

[@food4thort]

At last someone says it the way it is! Plain and blunt but a very clear reality.

[@maureenoneill5754]

This is just so sad.

[@everjustvalor]

Reading this comment section made me lose a little bit of hope in America that I hadn’t realized was still there.

[@BailelaVida]

A very interesting comment, ever...

[@strafrag1]

Smart, well-spoken woman. Good video, DW.

[@titantitan3030]

I see that this war is teaching Europe to be more united and stop being dependent on hydrocarbons and high-tech materials from hostile countries.

[@petars.6210]

Borders in Europe WAS CHANGED by FORCE (illegally by NATO) in 1992 (Yugoslavia), and 1999 (2008 in Serbia despite UN Resolution 1244 and its 10th paragraph from the top of Resolution !!!

[@Justmyopinionlol]

its never too late to apologize

[@nightlurker]

Putin, apologize? The seas would dry up, and the sun would die before that despot would apologize for anything.

[@KevJK1]

Anne Applebaum... wiki...''She has worked at The Economist and The Spectator,[4] and was a member of the editorial board of The Washington Post (2002-2006).[5] Applebaum won the Pulitzer Prize in 2004 for Gulag: A History published the previous year.[6] She is a staff writer for The Atlantic[7] and a senior fellow at The Agora Institute at Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies''

[@anativeeuropean226]

Who is behind this development, Mrs Applebaum? I am sure you know.

[@wernertognetti5956]

Thank you Ms. Applebaum for you very clear statement. Slava Ukrayini ❤️🇺🇦🇺🇦❤️.

[@mostlikely...]

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[@jas1049]

Anne Applebaum is a thinker genuinely worth listening to.

[@mcleanblades9234]

she writes for the atlantic. so she's not unbiased.

[@boink800]

Her books are beyond brilliant. Please read them to get yet more background understanding.

[@HeinRichKocHPretoria]

She is dreaming; the Russian empire is not coming to an end. She also does not understand that not only Russia, but China, India, etc will get involved also.

[@Tehui1974]

I haven't heard this woman before, but she's brutally honest. Russia must dislike her as a result.

[@rogerdvorak6045]

Nikki Haley is also very honest.

[@vivvpprof]

Read her books, very thoroughly researched and informative.

[@herbertvonzinderneuf8547]

Russia will regard her as just another irrelevant Western propagandist

[@mostlikely...]

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[@ms.annthrope415]

@Roger Dvorak nowhere near as intellectually blessed as Applebaum. And I wouldn't call her waffling on Trump honest.

[@sobeitsky5091]

ban weapons

[@NN-sj9fg]

There is an interesting comment very seldom heard - "You are as safe and secure as the person next to you wants you to be.". A peaceful neighbor is no problem. The problem comes when an egotistic monster lives next to you.

[@johnmarknicart9818]

Just remember where major war starts🤔

[@mavigogun]

With despotic gangsters launching genocidal campaigns of conquest? Or were you planning on blaming the would-be victims for barring their doors?

[@desideratoRdam]

With Russia invading?? If they are not stopped now they'll keep on being agressive!