Historical Accuracy of the Elephant Rifle in Red Dead Online

[@04whim]

0/10 accuracy, looks nothing like an elephant.

[@MPDcaw]

That 's why it's used to aim at huge elephants i guess lol.

[@maiqtheliar2465]

They should do an April fools update where it shoots baby elephants

[@keegantripp1245]

It’s for the grabboids in New Austin and the heartlands.

[@mccoytheboy3858]

@@keegantripp1245 they are the reason tumbleweed was abandoned

[@keegantripp1245]

@@mccoytheboy3858 Damn straight Boy. I once saw one eat a guy's horse. Then it ate him, luckily I and my horse got to a rock before it came for us. Took two shots to end it.

[@monster85100]

My man it should be a crime how underrated you are in the red dead community! Great video once again

[@ManvsHistory]

Truly appreciate that, Anarchy. It's these types of comments that really motivate me. Thanks, buddy.

[@Mmmmbbbbaaaaakkkuuu]

@@ManvsHistory Your work is awesome!

[@sketchy23_63]

I agree so much

[@skibum2185]

I agree

[@landon77788]

Sooo true

[@testname4464]

Just you wait on the flying horse firing rockets called "Manifest Destiny".

[@savonneenterprise4000]

Lmaoao

[@ticket-lucky1532]

Ahahahahaha

[@aidansilvia2663]

“It kills on one ends and maims on the other”

[@ManvsHistory]

Soon as I came across the line I knew I had to work it into the video. Glad you enjoyed it, Phantom.

[@MrDaantjuh13]

I just wish the gun was useful. It ruins all pelts. Should perserve elk, moose and bear pelts imo. If only for game balance

[@TheIceTrey]

It’s so fun to take on bounties, especially owlhoot family where there’s a lot of combat

[@deenkay7898]

Exactly! The gun looks and feels awesome, but the fact it ruins pelts really puts me off from using it. Obviously a rabbit would be obliterated, but I agree with you that it should preserve pelts from the big game. Edit: The gun should also preserve Bison pelts.

[@cr33p3rninja4]

It's meant for the legendary animals

[@deenkay7898]

@@cr33p3rninja4 Sure but it makes no sense for it to ruin pelts from big game.

[@darthmalice4737]

Your supposed to use it for legendary animals

[@LadyTylerBioRodriguez]

The doctor having to say it was a gunshot wound reminds me of that old show Deadliest Warrior. Where the doctor would point out the most obvious wound and say yeah he's dead. Best one was a cannonball knocked off a gel torsos head, but the doctor still checks and says yep he's dead. Oh I couldn't tell.

[@Mekilo1994]

I just love Red Dead so much and I've always been fascinated about the Wild West, another awesome and educational video !!!!

[@ManvsHistory]

Thanks Mekilo! Appreciate that, my friend!

[@reddeadrex9976]

Same here mate! 🤠👍

[@KraTu7]

@Pinkamena Pie Like what for example?

[@magicman3163]

I’d prefer the Sharps rifle tbh they should’ve done a summer circus event where we can hunt escaped lions and elephants

[@yourarseismine1016]

Wtf

[@ManvsHistory]

I love this idea.

[@Toastrackman]

Don't mention circuses around Rock*, they've seen enough clowns this year 😄

[@Devin_Stromgren]

I miss my Sharps from RDR1.

[@marcoscruz6883]

That is one of the guns I want most in red dead

[@genghiskhan6809]

Doctor: He died of a gunshot wound the size of a cheeseplate Me: Yes. The floor is made out of floor.

[@SomerandomShmuck]

I could only imagine the expert's face when he determined it was the gunshot wound that killed him.

[@NovemberGolf55]

Only red dead online youtuber that you actually learn something from the others are pricks keep it up man love the content

[@ManvsHistory]

Ha! Thanks, Wasco!

[@brokenbiscuit3609]

When I first got the Elephant Rifle, it was on sale and I still didn't have access to the Springfield rifle, which was the gun I used for hunting in single player. When I did buy the Elephant Rifle, I thought it was a long ranged rifle. Turns out it wasn't, it's just a big ass double barrel shotgun.

[@BLET_55artem55]

With mid range slugs

[@selflessone3880]

This is absolutely incredible work. Actually contacting said companies, just to give us gamers a historical insight. You’ve gained a subscriber here. Great work my friend.

[@ManvsHistory]

Thank you, man. It's comments like these that really motivate me. Truly appreciate folks noticing the effort I try and bring to the channel. Makes my night. Thanks again.

[@easternag16]

These videos may be a few years old but I always find myself coming back to them. I've probably watched every video in this series 5 times over. As a history nerd (and a huge Red Dead lover) I find these videos so cool and interesting. Love your channel as a whole, man. You deserve more subscribers. Highly underrated! Much love, cheers! 🙏

[@ManvsHistory]

Much obliged, partner! Happy 4th!

[@ghostedpt]

@@ManvsHistorysame man, I’ve definitely watched some of these videos 10+ times, you’re the best MVH!

[@HarambetheWhite]

Oh the famous photo of Teddy Roosevelt with his elephant rifle. A true American 👍👍👍

[@bluwolf9357]

I can't wait for a video about the historical accuracy of the incompetece of employees when it comes to cleaning up their shit when things go bananas (Rockstar... Cof cof...). Great video as always!!!! 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@bluwolf9357]

@Helen DistantTakedown ahahaha indeed!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤘

[@lukesams3349]

A big-bore rifle for $11,000… truly the Ronnie Barrett Rocky Top Special of its day

[@europeanpatriot8031]

Today we're going to talk about the elephant in the room

[@Sedgwick523]

I'm imaging a mechanic in the game where the gun makes your ears rings and vision blur for a short while, a 25% it gives you a concussion and the effects last longer, and maybe a 1% chance it just straight up kills you :P Great video as always!

[@jstone8513]

That’s a good idea 👌

[@ShootistFN]

In return for that they need to make it a 1 shot for legendary animals..

[@aaronsanborn4291]

The gun is also used by Sean Connery in The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

[@dmv9076]

I love history and I love video games. This is the type of good well made quality content that should be trending not that crap KZbin wants us too see. Keep up the good work man!

[@ManvsHistory]

Really appreciate that, dmv. I think this video is my favorite. If you haven't already, be sure to check out my other vids.

[@alextorres4667]

I'm digging this new editing and quality!

[@ManvsHistory]

Thank you, Alex! Always appreciate you stopping in and jumping into the comment thread!

[@wackyiowa724]

“Kills on one end and maims on the other” That is the most metal thing I’ve ever heard in my life.

[@roryquinn2009]

My man, it is so amazing how much research you do for these videos, you have a true passion and we love you for it, keep up the great videos, one of the best channels on KZbin hands down

[@ManvsHistory]

I appreciate you noticing the level of effort I put into these, Rory! It's compliments like these that keep me motivated. Thanks for making my night!

[@roryquinn2009]

@@ManvsHistory no problem loving the videos, really helping me design outfits etc. In red dead

[@roryquinn2009]

@@ManvsHistory also, yeah exactly like once I heard you saying that you call up companies and get the historian to give you information rather than just going on google, I must say it is quite impressive

[@ManvsHistory]

@@roryquinn2009 Thanks, Rory!

[@davidharing6475]

Just as a historical note, when you see a round referred to as 'Express' whether it be Black Powder Express or Nitro Express, that round is probably an expanding round, with a literal deep hole in the center of the nose of the round almost all the way through. This design was done to cause expansion of the round to dump as much energy as possible and damage as much flesh as possible to drop large game as quickly possible, which is helpful when you're staring down something the size of school bus. This also means they tend to have pretty short range compared to other rifles of the time.

[@matthewestevez6298]

The only reason I got back into red dead was to appreciate how realistic it really is thank you for these videos

[@PrinzofPhx]

Haven't played RDO in forever so I was surprised & happy to see the elephant gun. It was also on sale so I just had to have it. Lol

[@patrickadams7274]

I remember years ago, hitting a deer in the hind quarter (he was running) with a 300 Weatherby mag at about 75 yards (it was all I had on me). When we skinned it, we discovered the shock of the bullet had made its heart explode... I can only imagine what an .470 nitro would do to anything smaller than an elephant.

[@BLET_55artem55]

I mean, it'll skip the whole process of grinding the meat

[@tigris115]

It'd be cool if there was an addon that could give u a valley to hunt Pleistocene megafauna like mammoths

[@reddeaddadhead8101]

Just found your channel and I'm very impressed with the level of research you put in. Brilliant and very rare in reductive KZbin videos , which tend to just regurgitate wikipedia. You got a new subscriber in the UK

[@ManvsHistory]

Appreciate that, Crypto! Welcome aboard!

[@jdrewis712]

historical accuracy of legendary animal hunting?

[@ChelseaH1]

You are so awesome for doing these videos. And you really are an incredible story teller! The community will be thanking you for years to come. 🙏

[@ManvsHistory]

You're too kind, Chelsea. Much obliged.

[@sketchy23_63]

Since this is a thing a lot of people are dying to see in the game, I think a good video would be explaining how heists should be implemented into the game and how accurate rockstar can really make it to what big bank, train, and other robberies were like at the time.

[@TheNotoriousCheeto]

Haha. I like how the article about the guy with the scar referred to him as a real life Allan Quatermain.

[@moosehunter2477]

I have heard of both Rigby & Holland & Holland from hunting magazines like Sports Afield and I can only imagine how much damage such a gun could do

[@bigmanmurphy3389]

I could give a fuck less about the rifle, I love your videos and I’m always impressed by how much effort you put into them. I love learning about history and how things were back then, as well as interesting info about red dead. Very great channel, keep up the good work my man!

[@richardmoll5618]

What would you guys think about a flintlock rifle in red dead. Like an early model hawken or a even possibly a percussion muzzle loader

[@Jay-Tee58]

You made me proud of my purchase now

[@HrGlitchFinger]

Love the vid man! I named mine "Lorraine" and she keeps aggressive players off my back :)

[@Happyhogan]

Your consistency on fantastic uploads is amazing, please don’t stop, continue trying to get monetised!

[@ManvsHistory]

Thanks Chad! Will do!

[@ObeseMurican]

The ammo comparison in prices is honestly pretty cool. It makes sense economically.

[@peacemaker-du4hz]

the ivory hunter you were refering to that was knocked almost unconcious and had the cut under his eye from the 4 bore double load was richard courtney selou (ok,the name may not be spelled exactly right but i know its close}

[@TheMecanician]

These video videos are so informative.

[@MetNGaming]

i just discovered your channel and i am currently watching all yours vids! hope you get way more suscriber

[@ManvsHistory]

Thanks M.A! Enjoy them!

[@ashwienharpal2590]

Just discovered your channel sir. It's very informative. Thank you for sharing so much knowledge.

[@ManvsHistory]

Welcome, Harpal! Be sure to check out all the vids!

[@dragonwithamonocle]

Once I finally had a decent amount of cash going in RDO, I happened across the elephant rifle. I was... A little on the fence, so I decided to do some research. I had been a fan of this channel for a little bit already, and it turned out that this video had been released recently! After seeing just how incredibly dangerous this weapon was (to both target AND wielder....), I knew I had to have it. Between the one man who got spun completely around, the fact that it knocks you flat if you fire while crouched ingame, and the line "it kills on one end and maims on the other," I just HAD to have it. It's not a gun I use very much on account of the cost of ammunition and the fact that it ruins all but legendary pelts, but when I come upon a situation that calls for less of a gun and more of a handheld CANNON... This is my go-to. Thank you for this, I love this channel and everything you do, especially going back into so much detail about the historical aspects of these weapons! It's just amazing, and you've been a huge help for selecting specific outfits and loadouts in-game, which has been a blast... Sometimes literally!

[@ManvsHistory]

Happy to hear all that! Thanks, Dapper!

[@dragonwithamonocle]

@@ManvsHistory I just learned that during WWI, some british groups were issued 450 nitro express rifles for the purposes of penetrating armor that their normal rounds couldn't. Richard "Dickie" Cooper used his to shoot down three Albatross D.III biplanes before they managed to pass overhead, taking out two with two shots, then reloading and taking out the third. They "came down like pheasants," apparently.

[@ManvsHistory]

@@dragonwithamonocle That's entirely badass! Thanks for passing it along!

[@solkels_z4794]

just imagine how powerful the kick would be if we can trigger both rounds at a same time

[@ManvsHistory]

Exactly.

[@sethleoric2598]

I'm saving for the Expedition hat so i can make a Safari Hunter outfit with the Elephant Riflw

[@caffeineadvocate]

It also kills Graboids pretty well..

[@ManvsHistory]

Yes! I was waiting for a Gummer reference!

[@caffeineadvocate]

@@ManvsHistory - Old guys have the best references :) Reeeeeeeba! Where you at?

[@Devin_Stromgren]

I was going to say it was a punt gun, but then I realized you were talking about the FIRST movie.

[@mikepotts52]

We all need a rec-room like Burts in our lives. With thick walls.

[@TRIIGGAVELLI]

That was neat. Nice vid man👍

[@luke5g230]

Just found your channel and must say great work mate loved it! I’ll definitely be looking forward to watching more

[@ManvsHistory]

Thanks Luke! Glad you enjoyed the videos!

[@sketchy23_63]

Love the videos so much, keep them coming!!! 👍👍👍

[@TruBluMonkey]

Look anarchy said it prior but I’d like to expand on his statement. You are absolutely not seen big enough. You have production quality and you’re killing it presentation wise. You are going to go high my guy. I have to lean more on your channel cause as of rn I’m not sure if you only do red dead. But my guy. Expand if not. EXPAND! you have the same amount of subs as people with trash content. Saying so much about us as a entire people. If you recently started your channel I applaud you. Keep going. Go all in and you ain’t gonna be stopped. I see a future for you. I’m praying on your rise tonight brother. No nasty bullshit for clicks. Just straight up giving us fun connections between art and reality. There’s a word for people like you. I’m not smart enough to know it, but it’s a word.

[@ManvsHistory]

Love this comment, Glorious Victory. Absolutely love it. Made my day. I'm taking my wife out to celebrate our 10th anniversary tonight, but when I get time to sit down and respond, I'll give you a response worthy of your compliment. Thanks buddy.

[@TruBluMonkey]

Dude fuck that just go get it! Forget me man! Enjoy that family! Peace and thanks for responding at all

[@ManvsHistory]

Thanks again for the great comment, my friend. Truly appreciate it. I've gone back and re-read it a dozen times, and it never fails to motivate me. It's something I've needed after my monetization application was rejected by AdSense yesterday for the 11th time (not making that up btw. Eleven times, citing 'Policy Violations'). I've posted dozens of times on the AdSense & KZbin community forums for help but have never had a single reply. Not one. I've also posted dozens of times on Reddit forums, but nobody has been able to find these 'Policy Violations'. It's all terribly frustrating... but here's the thing..... it's comments like yours, and donations by Patreon patrons that keep me going. That's the truth. I'm committed to growing this channel so big that they can't ignore it- and I give all the credit to you folks for motivating me to do so, and supporting me along the way. Until then feel free to tweet to AdSense or KZbin and ask them to look into it. I need all the help I can get here, brother. And yes, to answer your question, I will be expanding out of Red Dead. I love the game, and enjoy making these videos, but this is just the start. I began this channel in April, and hoped to hit 1,000 subscribers by the end of the year. Still can't believe how fast that goal came and went. Now I may hit 10k by the end of October. Simply unbelievable. I can't say how grateful I am for the response I've gotten from you guys. So thank you, man. I took a screenshot of your comment and will use it to refuel moving forward.

[@theanonymousmrgrape5911]

It’s surprising to me that double rifles were every bit as expensive then as they are now.

[@Jinkx87]

Thank you for yet another amazing video Dr. I would highly recommend that you buy the nacogdoches saddle combined with the hooded stirrups. Your horse will never run out of stamina, and it will have more speed and acceleration.

[@ManvsHistory]

Thanks for the tip!

[@Devin_Stromgren]

But is that saddle historically accurate?

[@Jinkx87]

Man vs. History My pleasure.

[@eatdatshoplifter4459]

First i want to say i love your videos! Always been a history lover, and can you make a video on your opinion of an outlaw role? Its pretty debated on the subreddit considering the events in SP, the honor system, and game mechanics and id love to know your opinion on it!!

[@greeneyeballs]

I like how the Huber did a loopti loop from the recoil.

[@patrikpatrik8285]

I'm so excited to see ur channel grow and develope🙂

[@ManvsHistory]

Thank you, Patrik!

[@matchesburn]

It would be so awesome if you could get a customizable combination gun/drilling rifle/cape gun/Paradox gun in the game. Something like a Marble Game Getter.

[@jeremycharles3750]

Love the content man! You talk about the best subject there is, and the best game there is.. well when it's working.. 😂😂 keep up the great content brother. Btw i can remember are you on xbox or ps4?

[@ManvsHistory]

Thanks Jeremy! I'm on Xbox.

[@spelareNR14]

I wonder, have you considered doing RDR1 videos? That game takes place in 1911. Would you maybe even do videos on other games taking place in the 19th century or 20th century? I'm thinking Assassin's Creed Syndicate, the Fallout series, older GTA games or otherwise games? Just asking.

[@zuuk9300]

On the ammo box you get thought the outlaw pass it says its a 45-90

[@Yackattack22]

Wow good video, I really thought rockstar was just being lazy by making another double barrel shotgun, I was definitely not entirely wrong

[@hopekee]

The elephant rifle is decent when a legendary predator is charging you head on.

[@wackyiowa724]

“Was due to the gunshot wound” By that I think they mean he didn’t die due to bleeding out or shock. He just straight up died from the bullet itself

[@alextorres4667]

Your patreon seems really worth it

[@ManvsHistory]

I'm trying to make it worth people's while! Without monetization I wholly depend upon those folks. Added early access to all levels so they get the video a day or so early too.

[@theinnocents4002]

Pay the man!

[@TheHeavyshadow]

I love seeing Elephant Guns and similiar weapons in games. It's just fun to walk around with 20 cartridges of instant-death in one's pocket, and I like the high risk, high reward nature of those weapons and their targets. And you're moving up as it seems like. It's rare enough for "professionals" to acknowledge KZbin as a legitimate way to educate others, let alone in combination with video games. I feel like getting send those scans could be an important step to getting send more and your channel being taken seriously in the future. Though I suppose your occupation helped quite a bit with that. And for the pricing of the gun and it's ammo: It's absolutely that the real-life version was so ridiculously priced that Rockstar didn't have to overprice it as much to make it fit in the about equally ridiculous RDR:O-economy. (650$ for a kettle. Jeez.)

[@ManvsHistory]

Thanks man, appreciate the support and kind words. I like doing these little historical bite-sized portions of history + gaming... but grounding them in legitimate scholarship. Also gives folks a good glimpse into how historians do what we do. I think people often just assume that we either simply 'just know' this stuff, or we read about it in a book. In reality however, we often have to go back to the primary sources and start from scratch. Lots of detective work, which is pretty cool.

[@ManvsHistory]

And yes, I'd wager it's the occupation that opens the doors to the archives. Very grateful for that.

[@hunterbrown5866]

I love your videos, but for whatever reason your voice comes out very quiet. I’ll have my tv cranked trying to hear you, then blow my speakers out on commercials. Keep up the good work!

[@ManvsHistory]

Thanks Hunter. Check the latest Test the West vids and see if you still notice an issue. I bought all new audio equipment before doing those. Hope it fixed it.

[@Mark8271997]

Great video as usual. Got an idea on the historical accuracy of RDO in general. Like, is getting away with murder as easy as just moving a couple hundred meters away from a red circle? How common is it to get shot when you just give a thumbs uo at someone? Did cowboys really spend 75% of their income in expensive hats?

[@Devin_Stromgren]

Maybe not 75%, but a Stetson cost about a month's wages for a cowboy in the 19th century.

[@criticaloptimist7961]

No they used club reward discounts to be sure. 😂

[@Asphyxiamechanical]

I got my friend with the rifle I had him crouch next to a cliff back to cliff and fire

[@ano-n3585]

Wow.... it wasn't so bad being a teacher back then.

[@johnguillett1059]

I like how when they heard it was going to be banned they just made a bigger caliber weapon and holy shit a wood engraver made more than surgeon wtf?

[@FreeAimDog]

mauser is a fun pistol for free aim headshots if you use 2 and have the gun slinger ability card.

[@imjulian5393]

You should do a video going over possible and likely guns that could be featured in RDO.

[@ManvsHistory]

Solid idea, Juliian.

[@walkrslayer1305]

You missed the part where if you shoot a frog or a squirrel they fucking explode

[@midwestoutdoors4106]

Need the 1895 winchester

[@Toastrackman]

Very interesting, good vid dude, keep up the good work 🤠👍

[@ManvsHistory]

Thank you as always, Toastrack. Love having you swing by, my friend!

[@hikikimori]

funny how they call it Muhlberg for the elephant rifle but the Mauser is still called its name and not Muhlberg pistol lol

[@jimmywalden1615]

I just wish they would make the online content available in single player

[@SaftonYT]

There are actually cases where elephant guns have been utilized in anger against personnel and materiel targets during wartime, believe it or not. During World War 1, British troops were consistently harassed by German snipers under the cover of thick steel plates known as "loopholes". Their service rifles were incapable of penetrating the steel, so the British government hastily acquired a number of elephant guns from their African colonies and issued them amongst their troops on the front lines. The idea is that they would wait for the sniper to get in position behind the loophole to take the shot and fire, allowing the far heavier and more powerful projectile to punch through the loophole and incapacitate him (or simply wound him with spalling/fragmentation or concussion if it didn't get through). Notably, the official British Army request was for .470 Nitro Express hardened solid ammunition. By all accounts, they performed admirably in the role. Additionally, also from World War 1, the fielding of tanks prompted the Germans to develop the first anti-tank rifle: the 13.2mm Mauser 1918 T-Gewehr, which took heavy inspiration from the big-bore safari rifles of the day. Decades later in the early part of World War 2, there was an Italian commander by the name of Duke of Aosta -- a somewhat peculiar character for the time. He led Italian forces stationed in East Africa and was known for being an aficionado/collector of custom firearms. Due to a shortage of dedicated anti-tank cannons, he graciously handed out a number of elephant rifles from his personal armory to the troops under his command in hopes of countering Allied armored cars.

[@ManvsHistory]

This is awesome stuff, man! Thanks for contributing!

[@chidy9699]

A 40-70 round is really large. My friend had a break action handgun that fired a 45-70 and it was crazy. They are absolutely massive rounds. I can see why it would be called an "elephant rifle". I think the Springfield trapdoor rifle fired the same though, represented by the Springfield rifle in game, one of my favorites.

[@ManvsHistory]

Hey Chidy! First off, I can't picture a handgun that fires 45-70. That's nuts. I mean awesome, but nuts. I'll take your word that they exist (not doubting it), but good lord that thing would hurt your wrist. As for the elephant gun, it fired the .450 Nitro Express which is a different, much larger round than even the 45-70. And I should note, some elephant guns fired even larger rounds- I have a .470 NE round in my office and it's hilariously large. If somebody else comes across this, please chime in and correct me if I'm wrong here- but I've handled a .450 NE round and lots of 45-70, and I believe the .450 is noticeably longer. See: i108.photobucket.com/albums/n5/TARJARBAR/002-6.jpg

[@ManvsHistory]

For that pic, left to right, you're looking at a .450 Nitro Express 3 1/4", a 375 H&H Mag and a 45-70 Gov't. Hope that helps, Chidy!

[@supremecaffeine2633]

@@ManvsHistory There are a few revolvers chambered in 45-70 and at least one Derringer. There's also a breach loaded hunting pistol chambered in .500 nitro express.

[@ManvsHistory]

@@supremecaffeine2633 If I ever get the chance to shoot an elephant gun, you better believe I'll put the video on here.

[@PivotToThePast]

Great video as always! I agree hope Rockstar adds more guns in the. The more the merrier!

[@RebelSandGaming]

Let's be honest we were all hoping for them to add the Sharps 1859 with the new update to rdo

[@monster85100]

Right? I've been waiting for it and they had it in rdr1 it was called the Buffalo rifle and they did bring back the evans repeater too so fingers crossed

[@articusramos808]

Now...in another note, that coroner's report, that, is one nasty gunshot. A size of a cheese plate? And it even did damage to the brick wall too.

[@ManvsHistory]

A different newspaper article said 'dinner plate'. Either way... he's not walking it off.

[@jadjajeh3270]

You know the in game economy is all over the place when you hear that a gun is 70% more than it should cost and think wow they nailed it with that one

[@ManvsHistory]

Ha!

[@p-i-w-y]

I f...... love your perfect videos

[@ManvsHistory]

Ha! Thanks, buddy!

[@jaymosisjones]

Yo MvH, new subscriber here, just wanted ya to know that your vids are always entertaining and educational! Would've loved to have ya as a history prof. Have a great day! ✌

[@ManvsHistory]

Thanks for subscribing, Jaymosis! Appreciate the compliments as well, my friend!

[@cheesebone2818]

It’s a bigger double barreled shotgun

[@ausraptor9602]

Would you be able to do a video on some historically accurate guns that could be added into red dead online?

[@Teddy_______]

I’m surprised you were able to stay in the game long enough to get footage...

[@AlenP996]

It's fixed now

[@ManvsHistory]

No kidding, Gunslinger. Yesterday was brutal. Couldn't stay in for more than a couple minutes.

[@Teddy_______]

@AleN972 I’ll be the judge of that. I’ll be on in like an hour. Yesterday I wasn’t getting disconnected. My game was literally crashing every 5min lol

[@Teddy_______]

@Man vs. History Rockstar giveth and Rockstar taketh away. These are the rules for every update/bug fix

[@NeonTheWolf]

AleN972 it’s still not fixed, you just got lucky and caught the game on a good day

[@gonnegottkehaskamp1667]

I let out an audible OOOOOOF when you told about that guy who shot a double loaded Elephant Gun... Jesus that must've hurt... Also, can you make a video about supressor use? I'm pretty sure they were invented back then, were they used at all? Would it be historically accurate (LOL, as if R* cared about that) to use a suppressed Nagant Revolver? Thats my dream gun for RDO.

[@mandalorian_guy]

"Suppressors" as we know them today (Baffled tubes with subsonic ammunition) only became a realistic item during WW2 and even then they were specialized pieces and mostly just dampened the supersonic crack. Sound absorbing barrels did exist before that but were ineffective and mostly to redirect the sound away from the user so they didn't get tenitis. These are what Hiram Maxim was selling during WW1 and were basically not useful at actually quieting the sound.

[@Dave-ti1wv]

I heard the Nagant is one of the few revolvers that can be suppressed due to it having a sealed cylinder. Is that correct or have I got my wires crossed? (I would love to see Colt dragoon added BTW).

[@gonnegottkehaskamp1667]

@@Dave-ti1wv Yeah, the Nagant uses a special seal (essentially the cylinder is pressed tightly onto the barrel which makes the gun gas sealed) that allows it to be suppressed. I think its one of the only revolvers that does that. I would love a supressed revolver in RDO as an alternative to the bow. They could make it ridiculously expensive, make it use special ammo or just make it so weak that you HAVE to make headshots. If they even care at all about balancing.

[@ManvsHistory]

Thanks for the comment, Egomania. Yeah, can't imagine the force of that recoil. Seriously, it must have been equivalent to being kicked by a mule. Or clydesdale. I'll look into the suppressor.

[@Dave-ti1wv]

@@gonnegottkehaskamp1667 Thanks for replying.

[@snekans554]

Personally love to use this gun to make executions with NPC enemies. Real satisfying when the head just pops like a watermelon. Too bad it ruins every pelt though but its understandable if some dude gets cheeseplate-sized hole in his chest

[@docwil2541]

You don't think the weapon is the .577? Going after legendary hunts it would make sense. You may want to clarify the difference between an elephant/big game gun like the .470 or .577 and a 4 bore stopping rifle which tossed 1/4 lb lead round down range. I really enjoy your series, keep up the good work. As a side note a Mauser 98 would be a very welcome change over the Krag or Carcano.

[@ManvsHistory]

Thanks Doc, glad you're enjoying the content! As for the caliber, it's hard to lock it down. Heck, I may even be off on the manufacturer, but I think if you take all the evidence together, it seems like Rigby & Co would be the best fit, particularly with their Mauser connection, role in developing the .450 NE round, and RDO being set in 1898. Also, many other elephant guns and larger caliber NE double rifles came after 1898, particularly in the early 1900s. Of course, it's also possible that we're over thinking all this... here we are pouring through company records from the late 1800s and the truth of the matter is that some guy at R* may have just thought it would be cool to make a generic elephant gun with nitro express rounds.

[@under_struck1239]

Bruh this gun is great for combat with paint it black never crouch though you miss most of the time and you get flung backwards. It’s under rated and I hope it stays that way. It’s literally one shot. And I tested the range for dead eye with it standing in front of the stables in valentine and had a friend stand near the bounty board

[@ManvsHistory]

I love this gun. Even though it ruins the pelts, I enjoy hunting with it. Feels like a Hawken .50, minus the cloud of gun smoke.

[@RebelSandGaming]

The main reason they switched from 450 to 470 was cause they didnt want the local insurgents to be able to take the 450 shells and make ammo for the martini henrys and such cause their ammo both used the same amount of powder

[@danielchristie2519]

How do you make that amazing outfit?

[@reddeadrex9976]

I love these videos! 👍👍👍 🤠

[@ManvsHistory]

Thanks Rexwalker, appreciate that, buddy!

[@sarahphilips9959]

I don’t see what people don’t like about these guns they are perfect for getting pristine human pelts

really nice job !

[@ManvsHistory]

Thank you, Wolves!

[@bobjpage]

Fascinating point of view on how a video game developer's mashup of a gun made famous by Ernest Hemingway isn't actually too far from the truth, and I love the idea of a weapon that bites back. Your analysis of how Red Dead Online jives with the historical record does a great job of motivating us to learn more of the history of the American West. Beyond Stephen Ambrose, what authors would you recommend?

[@ManvsHistory]

Thank you, Bob! I'd recommend David McCullough (Johnstown Flood, Mornings on Horseback, The Pioneers), Nathaniel Philbrick (In the Heart of the Sea, Last Stand, Mayflower), and Candace Millard (Destiny of the Republic, River of Doubt, Hero of the Empire). All three authors are brilliant, but the latter two are my favorites. Start with Philbrick's Heart of the Sea or Last Stand, then Millard's Destiny of the Republic.

[@bobjpage]

@@ManvsHistory Thank you!

[@ManvsHistory]

@@bobjpage You bet, Bob!