Historical Names of Istanbul in Other Languages

[@turkchap]

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[@jonahrichardson3000]

Great video as ever! In Welsh, today most people say 'Istanbwl' but the old name equivalent to Constantinople is 'Caergystennin', meaning 'Fortress of Constantine'. In Irish some old names include 'An Bhiosáint' and 'Cathair Chonstaintín'

[@turkchap]

Glad you liked the video:) This is amazing information. Very interesting. Thanks!

[@georgios_5342]

I haven't heard of Islambol as a historical name, I've heard it as Stambul or Stanbul though, which was a shortened version of is tin polin. After all, the Greek inhabitants of the city often called it just Πόλη, City with a capital C. This was a tradition that paralleled the ancient Latin colloquial name for Rome, which was Urbs, again, City with a capital C, due to the large significance of the city as a cultural center. Fun fact, a prominent Bulgarian politician, Alexandar Stamboliyski, was also from Istanbul, as shown in his name. It is very likely in fact that the name of Stambul/Stanbul later had the İ added in front of it, similarly to other loan words with two consecutive consonants at their start (station became istasyon, for example). It's an interesting story

[@pseudokanax2957]

I’m Turkish and your right with the Greek origin of the name, my people are a little bit useless for history. For instance like Bulgarians who are trying to proof that the Proto-Bulgars and Kumans were of Iranic stock, because they want to deny the Turkic roots or Albanians who are trying to claim the Pelasgians, Atatürk and Alexander the Great.

[@auto952]

Great video but I have a few corrections, if you like. 1. Pólis is still extremely common in Greece, especially in daily speech. Konstantinoúpolis is more formal. It has been like that for centuries, and that is where Turks got "Is tin Pólin" and made it Istanbul. 2. Ismabol is a folk etymology, it was coined to counter the Greek-derived "Istanbul" but it never really gained popularity with the people. It practically was never used in daily life. 3. Istanbul is most definitely from Greek "Is tin Pólin", as we have many similar examples of Turkification of Greek toponyms. Some examples are Iznik from "Is Níkea", Izmir from "Is Smírnin" and most notably İstanköy from "Is tin Ko" that Turks use for the Greek island of Kos. Another example that is ızgara from "is shára" meaning on the grill in Greek. 4. You forgot the most famous nickname Greeks use for the city, that being "Vasilévousa" meaning "The Reigning [City]". It's by far the most common nickname Greeks use and always used, and Thessaloniki was called "Symvasilévousa" meaning "The Co-Reigning City" because it has always been the second-city of the empire. Greeks honor this Byzantine title even today, and we commonly call Thessaloniki as "Symprotévousa" meaning "The Co-Capital City". Hope you find these interesting 😁

[@hazorg16]

always wondered why iznik and izmir weren't nikea or nika and simirna or simir idk. thank you for clearing that out

[@stylianospapadopoulos6139]

Yes the etymologies are from greek but they do not come from the phrase "is tin" most probably they result from the aversion of the turkish language (like spanish and persian) for words starting with some consonants (mainly s). For example in turkish , Stamatis is called Istamat etc. etc.

[@rhu7069]

I guessed that Istanbul came from the Persian “Istan” (meaning “country/place of”) and Turkish “bul” (meaning “find”). So I thought it meant something along lines of “Found the Place”. Another one of my theories was that it was a shortened version of Constantinople, because if you remove “Con” it becomes “Stantinople” which sounds similar to Istanbul (I also thought that maybe the “tino” in the middle would have been dropped as well, making is “Stanple” which turned into “Istanbul” over time). But your explanation is interesting and makes sense too.

[@k.umquat8604]

İzmit too comes from is Nikomedia

[@georgios_5342]

Very nice video, a historical rundown! In a true short documentary fashion too! I only wanted to note that in 0:36, the Greek settlement was called Byzantion. It was the Romans that changed the -on suffix to -um

[@turkchap]

I am glad to hear that you liked it :) Thanks!

[@ThatLadyBird]

We should rename it Street Cat City 😂 or maybe Kitty City 🤣 Y'all know why...

[@turkchap]

Haha yeah, the city belongs to the cats 😂

[@Nicolas_Sebastian.4]

Navoho dilindeki oldukça ilginç. Muhteşem bir video olmuş.

[@turkchap]

Benim de en ilginç bulduğum o oldu. Çok teşekkürler.

[@mrloda8-Paraschos]

Εxcellent video. Congratulations. For the name, Istanbul is most likely to come from the Greek language in the city - is tin poli . Istanbul, when it was Constantinople, was never called as Byzantine Empire. It was the Eastern Roman Empire.The term Byzantium was later used by the Vatican (Modern Roman Empire) to cut all ties with the Roman Empire.They used the ancient name of the area. They did exactly the same thing with the so-called Balkans to lower the value of Southern Europe in relation to the rich North. Constantinople, which was betrayed by the Catholic and Orthodox churches, was ultimately left with less than 10,000 soldiers against 200.000 approximately . Some Greeks and some Genoese defend the city. Also 700 Genoese who settled on the island of Chios ( sakuz island ) under the orders of Justinianos . Constantinos the emperor had offered the island of Samos to Justinianos with his 700 Genoese soldiers if they won. Everyone knows the outcome of the battle. What not everyone understands is that this is the important reason America was discovered .The fall of Constantinople. Since the New Ottoman Empire dominated the Mediterranean, Europe had to find a new route to the Indies and the expensive spices. With the fall of Constantinople that was the most beautiful city in the world had given its place to America. Let's not forget to also say that Constantinople was then a cradle of culture because universities were established and for the first time equality rights for women.The citizens of this city should be very proud of its history and it doesn't matter if some Greeks, when they visit as tourists, feel the greatness of the city. Only Tyrkish & Greeks can understand and feel this.Even today, Instanbul position and beauty are unbelievable.

[@turkchap]

I am glad you liked the video! Thanks :)

[@mrloda8-Paraschos]

@@turkchap Great Job. If you want more information about the history of Constantinople, the most suitable is to find books or videos of Mrs Eleni Glykatzi - Arveler. She was Born in Athens in 1926 but her family coming from Smyrna . In 1966 she received the diploma doctorat ès lettres, with her study on Byzantium and the sea, published by the University Publications of France (Byzance et la mer, Paris: Presses universitaires de France). She was Director of the Center for History and Culture of Byzantium and Christian Archaeology, became Vice-Rector (1970-1973) and in 1976, Rector at the University of Sorbonne (Paris I). She is the first woman Rector in the 700-year history of the Sorbonne University and the first woman in the world to hold such a position in an internationally recognized university. Today she lives permanently in France

[@georgios_5342]

3:32 after the emperor Heraclios, who was the Byzantine Emperor at the time of first contact

[@orkunpak]

great video. however, although both not official, i would have definitely mentioned asitane and dersaadet (my personal favourite due to its literally “happy” meaning😊).

[@turkchap]

Thank you! :) I didn’t know these but dersaadet sounds so poetic and beautiful.

[@Raantas]

Actually the names didn't change abruptly at some point, as most people think. The coins minted in ottoman empire even after mehmed taking the city, had "kastantiniye" still on it. This was only changed later when sultan Abdul Hamid (iirc) saw it as a need to repel russian plans...

[@aster3907]

the art looks so nice in this video

[@worldvisitor-cb7hl]

Very nice video❤!

[@turkchap]

Thank you! 😀

[@Rhythm412]

In modern day Hindi and Urdu we say it as क़ुस्तुनतुनिया/قسطنطنیہ (qustuntuniya) which comes from Arabic. Also, your videos are really good, keep making more!

[@turkchap]

Thanks for the addition! Good to know what other languages call Istanbul 🙏

[@aster3907]

wow, so many variations, very interesting

[@turkchap]

Thank you!

[@basarkarakus]

stenbol or stênbol in kurdish :))

[@turkchap]

Interesting! Thanks for sharing.

[@Dwalin1989]

This channel is the best turkish thing in the world

[@ahmetsozer8113]

Good vid. I like it

[@turkchap]

I'm glad you like it. Thanks!

[@KhaganTheGreat]

I like the name "Nova Roma"

[@turkchap]

Sounds pretty heroic

[@FreePalestine-FRTSEA]

it shows once again istanbul one of the most historical city.

[@adem14159]

There must be a third theory which states that decomposition of "Islambol" is "Islam" and "polis" which becomes "Islampol" and slightly changes to "Islambol" and "Istanbul". It is so silly no one considered that.

[@TheIronHordesman2]

You forgot Darülhilafe (Meaning "The Center/House of the Caliph), another uncommon name used in Ottoman documents.

[@turkchap]

Thanks for the info man 🙏🏻

[@krk5770]

Kostin? Almost like Kostrzyn XD Would like to see Nocny Kochanek there

[@MatthewMcVeagh]

Do you have any evidence that Islambol was ever an official name, and that it led to Istanbul? I read that it was the other way round - Istanbul was a popular name, eventually made official, and led to some trying 'Islambol' by derivation, as if to say the city was a centre of the Muslim world. Also to disassociate it from its Christian past.

[@kutukteyiz408]

İslambol wasn’t such a big deal as you put it. It was just an unsuccessful attempt. Ottomans called it Kostantiniyye (Constantinople), Payitaht (Capital) and Dersaadet (Gate of happiness) in their documents. People mostly preferred Konstantiniyye and Istanbul the entire time.

[@stuckonearth4967]

Wow. Greek "is tin" meaning "in the" or maybe "inside" is pretty close to Tuvan Turkic "ishtin'de" meaning "inside". The "Islam bol" in Tuvan means "Be Islam"...

[@shaifunnessa7816]

I like Constantinople

[@Truthseeker371]

Islambol makes the most sense. Whatever the name is, the city has transformed to be just commercialised and extremely touristic. Shame.

[@lordgrunwalder1607]

To be honest it was always attracting merchants and tourists 💀 it was always commercialised

[@kutukteyiz408]

İslambol wasn’t such a big deal as you put it. It was just an unsuccessful attempt. Ottomans called it Kostantiniyye (Constantinople), Payitaht (Capital) and Dersaadet (Gate of happiness) in their documents. People mostly preferred Konstantiniyye and Istanbul the entire time.