When did Constantinople become Istanbul? (Short Animated Documentary)

Istanbul has had many names but by far the longest lived was Constantinople, a name that the city had held formally for over a millennia. But when and why did this change? When did Constantinople become Istanbul?
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[@HistoryMatters]

I would like to apologies to the Greek people for butchering their language. I was relying on 13 year old GCSE Ancient Greek so I again, sorry.

[@AkaMadem]

No problem (so you have chosen death...Just joking heh... Am I?)

[@joezbest5519]

I always wondered why the used different bombs for Hiroshima and Nagasaki

[@reenasingh6693]

@@AkaMadem yes

[@jamiengo2343]

Wait, they taught Ancient Greek at GCSE back then?

[@gregoryspatisserie9858]

You're a semi amateur KZbin Historian. I don't think you should be expected to get pronunciation of foreign words correct. The content you produce is amazing , do not be too hard on yourself friend. Keep up the amazing work as always!

[@franrobert80]

When your city is literally called THE CITY

[@pantelisdalezios811]

Oh yes, in Greek history books it is ofter referred to as "City" with capital C

[@Crazytechnition]

Tbf, London is called “the city” too.

[@yarpen26]

@@ezprism2800 Although it's worth pointing out that Tokyo (東京 or "Eastern Capital") was named so not in geographical relation to the two Chinese capitals but its own Japanese predecessor, the city of Kyoto (京都 or simply "the capital city") to the West of it.

[@Iason29]

@@Crazytechnition No it used to be London. It is London in fact, then London city because only in the 19th century did London city grow, then London city became so large it was stupid calling it london city still which is why they took London out of the name since London now is everything. If you are living anywhere in London right now that isn't the city it is in fact, not London. Just London countryside.

[@pantelisdalezios811]

@@Locutus Yeah but not too many are nicknamed "City" in every language. Constantinupole was one because of so may failed attempts to conquer it, along with its legendary treasures. Literally every nation in Medievil times made their effort in sieging it.

[@primitiveplanet8202]

World: We're gonna call it Constantinople. Turks: So you have chosen no mail delivery.

[@Ianassa91]

Now that think about it, it would actually quickly lead to turks giving in if the world would unite on that. The city would quickly run out of supplies if they didn't deliver XD

[@vapingcat5406]

@@Ianassa91 The most shittiest thing I've seen.

[@reinatr4848]

@@Ianassa91 10/10 best reason to sanction

[@ibrahim-dw8xl]

@marios gianopoulos you're too lazy to write a letter

[@d.k4559]

@@Ianassa91 it’s 2020 , stop living in the past, get over it

[@DOMDZ90911]

Turks: "you refer to Constantinople as 'the city' right?" Greeks: "yup" Turks: "In greek 'Istinpolin' means 'the city' right" Greeks: "yup" Turks: "'istanbul' is simply a turk variation of the term" Greeks: "makes sense to me" Turks: "Then it's Istanbul" Greeks: "It's Constantinople"

[@Gun_Metal_Grey]

Greek nationalists in a nutshell.

[@trying1407]

It was actually Islambol, until the Turks decided it'd be more turkish after ww1 and the republic of turkey was founded to be called ISTANBUL.

[@napabilirim]

@@trying1407 Islambol?? That's a new one.

[@trying1407]

@@napabilirim not new, older than istanbul, Konstantiniyye was the used term for most of the Ottoman Empires life though

[@innosanto]

@@Gun_Metal_Grey what is nationalism? Define it and I will te you if you are right or if it is more right to still want to call our conquered capital by its name. Do you give us the right to call our conquered capital by its name? Or if someone conquers Athens and throws us out and changes name to Seattle we also have to call it Sesttle?

[@LordWyatt]

2:08 ‘Istanbul not Constantinople’ Some American bois in 1953: “That’s a great idea for a song.”

[@xaviergonzalez44]

American boi(me): It’s also a really great song

[@scotandiamapping4549]

Wait what?

[@emirilebassalm2674]

actually that song funded by turkish goverment

[@kasadam85]

@@emirilebassalm2674 no

[@ehleltewhid9361]

@@kasadam85 yes

[@karlmachnow4961]

1:50 "start calling the Turkish capital Istanbul" Ankara starts crying

[@kayyumamcaoglu8671]

@@jokuvaan5175 Is it pronounced like the Turkish one as well?

[@seneca983]

@@kayyumamcaoglu8671 According to Wikipedia the Turkish pronunciation is [ˈaŋkaɾa] but reading the Wikipedia page on Turkish phonology it seems like it possibly should be [ˈäŋkäɾä] or [ˈɑŋkɑɾɑ]. The Finnish pronunciation is [ˈɑŋkɑrɑ]. Basically, the differences are that in Finnish the letter 'R' is a trill (i.e. [r]) whereas in Turkish it's a tap (i.e. [ɾ]) and that the vowel 'A' might be different. In Finnish, the vowel is clearly a back vowel but in Turkish it might be back, central, or front. The Turkish vowel is a bit uncertain to me since Wikipedia gives a bit of contradictory information and I can't figure that out since I'm not a phonetician.

[@ecurewitz]

@@bahadrbaserkok3335 it's a Hittite name

[@OptimusWombat]

Istanbul was the capital until October 1923.

[@appleslover]

Ankara is the capital..

[@joshuas135]

Any place: changes it’s name. Europe: how about no. Usa: cheers I’ll drink to that!

[@merrittanimation7721]

USA: Good for you! Who are you again?

[@Spongebrain97]

Like our new NATO brothers in North Macedonia lol

[@KingAgniKai]

Iran: we're Iran now Europe: no US: ok UK: *N O*

[@Gardstyle35]

@@KingAgniKai us was like NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO in that one

[@chedelirio6984]

Especially Greece. Boy are they anal about the names of places.

[@spencersholden]

“Except for the Greeks.” That made me laugh.

[@petrospetromixos6962]

Only the Greeks matter though

[@emrez1831]

The world: "It's Constantinople" Turkey: *You have lost your mail delivery privileges*

[@mattp6244]

some say the city was also called bisanettium, named after the rich roman aristocrat jaminus bisanettine

[@arcobalenoreborn2946]

LMFAOOO

[@OdotJdot]

This is the comment I was looking for. Bravo!

[@samlandsteiner6237]

The Latin equivalent of James is Iacobus. Iacobus Bisanettus.

[@Zantides]

The best comment ever on this channel, hahaha

[@szymongorczynski7621]

Genius

[@Solomonster07]

"If you've got a date in Constantinople, she'll be waiting in Istanbul"

[@Pining_for_the_fjords]

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam ....

[@c0llegeboard439]

Pining for the fjords why they changed it I can’t say

[@SirPeterKozlov]

@@c0llegeboard439 People just liked it better that way

[@peterongan9655]

So take me back to Constantinople.

[@spqr1023]

🎵 istanbul was constantinople/now its istanbul not constantinople 🎵

[@KutayYavuz]

We still call Thessaloniki "Selanik," Alexandroupoli as "Dedeağaç," Bitola as "Manastır" even though they are not part of Turkey anymore. So a Greek can call Istanbul Constantinople or Edirne Adrianople, I have no problems with it. Fighting over names in the 21st century is silly.

[@sargent4465]

Youre completly right!

[@robn2066]

I have never agreed a comment more as a Turkish person

[@fallendown8828]

TRUE!

[@beyaz9991]

Agreed but want to say that Selanik is turkificated pronounciation of Thessaloniki so its not the name change. But for Alexandroupoli or Bitola, its totally true.

[@jmogler]

These videos absolutely crack me up. It's something about the bluntness and frankness of the animations. Really good stuff.

[@fret1]

Next up why isn’t Armenia recognised by Pakistan.

[@dathn9880]

Wait what?

[@maksimrashkovskiy9187]

@@trtyuiop yep

[@ponasenkoepifantsev377]

Easy question: Look up Karabakh war

[@riko_sandokan]

It is true, and it's mostly likely because of Pakistan supporting Azerbaijan in their fight against Armenia for territory called "Nagorno-Karabakh". That's all you can get from me. Btw, did you know that there are countries which didn't recognize, or establish diplomatic relations with some Ex-Yu countries, like Croatia and Montenegro?

[@barandonmez1]

@@seriesmovies4195 Thank god someone who adresses things objectively rather then biased

[@sarpbakrsoy8125]

"Which is why most nations officially refer to the city as Istanbul now... Except for the Greeks." Ah, yes. The Greco-Turkish tradition of arguing, fighting, or having a dispute in some other way.

[@maksimrashkovskiy9187]

It's good that they recognize the real name of "Istanbul"

[@antonisantoniou1436]

Or not its beacuse its easier to call it constantinople in greek rather than istanbul bc constantinople is one word while istanbul in greek means: to the city which isnt a name and it is 3 words

[@ant75kots2]

It's a general Balkan tradition, mindlessly bicker with a Balkan country until you start agreeing that there is someone worse and then start all over

[@Fulllife3.2]

Antonis Antoniou Technically isn’t it two words; “Constantine’s city?”

[@inqntrol2047]

Don't forget about the Aegean Sea or Cyprus

[@charlotteleates9375]

I just wanted to say that I adore this KZbin channel! So informative but also fun! Keep it up. 👍🏻

[@ipermaga4618]

"Except for the Greeks". Makes sense. Ty for finally answering this heartfelt question since I've heard both that it came to be in 1453 and in 1923 and I was confused

[@rednexie]

its impossible to be changed in 1923. Think about it dude,you conquered a city from someone and the city's name means " from who did you conquered's city" and would you leave it? Its pretty illogical, especially when you are a muslim turkish and you conquered from a christian.

[@franciscomorales1354]

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam

[@JBGR111]

Why they changed it? I can’t say

[@pepin8277]

@Thomas de Boer It was never given to the Duke of York by the Dutch, the english never gave a fuck about the fact that the Dutch ahd already laid claim upon parts of the land the Duke claimed...

[@peteranderson037]

@Thomas de Boer Fun fact: every gal in Constantinople lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople. So if you've got a date in Constantinople she'll be waiting in Istanbul.

[@rubenleejohnsen2037]

@@JBGR111 People just liked it better that way!

[@ecurewitz]

@@JBGR111 people just liked it better that way

[@omerfarukal9494]

When did franks, became french ?

[@papazataklaattiranimam]

When did Rus’,became Russian?

[@raphaelponmaret8823]

@@PokerGrind02 French are all but celtic They are a melting pot of franks Romans and normans

[@James_Mansbridge]

@@TheFederalist11 When Wessex subjugated the last rivaling Anglo Saxon kingdoms. Kings of Wessex were also crowned "King of the Anglo Saxons" a bit before then (I think), but that seems more like posturing to me.

[@papazataklaattiranimam]

Ömer Faruk AL iyi tuttu ha yorum :)))

[@lhistorienchipoteur9968]

@@dasmensh Ok. I if you want a more exhaustive explanation: there was a Germanic people who invaded Gaul named the Franks, they gave the name "France" and became a ruling minority. After centuries, the name "franks" was used to call everyone who lived in France, noble or not.

[@yunusakgul2047]

I really hate hearing that "Turks/Ottomans captured Constantinople in 1453 and changed its name to Istanbul" in all the stupid decumentaries. Finally there is someone who correct this Ignorance makes me triggered

[@neoarmstrongcyclonejetarms9326]

Is was officially called Istanbul in 1923, not 1453.

[@TotsuPlusPlus]

Its called konstantiyye( i dont know its something like that ) in 1453

[@Asterix958]

Costantiniyye was general name in Islamic Word before 1453 Conquest. There is no name changing.

[@gamingemail769]

Wow, that was a lot more complex than I thought it would be! Thanks for the explanation 👍

[@nicorhodes837]

"Why'd they change it, I can't say..." "Guess they liked it better that way"

[@migueltrujillo8929]

Cuz it's Istanbul not Constantinople

[@sdhubbard]

I'm surprised I had to go this far down in the comments to find this reference.

[@rbailey1240]

It's "People just like it better that way."

[@jesseberg3271]

@@sdhubbard I was here closer to when the video launched, there were a lot of early birds doing variations on this, they just haven't been voted up as much. If KZbin let you sort by oldest comment, you'd see what I meant.

[@comradekenobi6908]

*It's nobody's business but the Turks*

[@iexistdotcodotuk2558]

Congratulations on 500k!

[@petrosts9846]

Medieval Greek phrase "To the City" (Is tin Poli) became the modern Turkish name of Constantinople (Istanbul). However, in modern greek there still are cases: nominative, accusative, genitive etc. Also "Is" of "Is tin Poli/Istanbul" is a preposition in greek meaning "to". So, it's really weird for modern greek speakers to use a preposition plus accusative case, when they only need nominative, genitive etc. case. So, in modern greek Constantinople/Istanbul is Konstantinoupoli (the city of Constantinus) or just Poli (the City). When somebody says in greek that he/she is "from the City" (apo tin Poli), greek speakers understand that he/she is from Constantinople/Istanbul.

[@merrittanimation7721]

Turkey: It's called Istanbul. Europe: No. Greece: Hell no. America: Yeah sure why not.

[@Iason29]

It's just an American habit, if Europe choses one thing they always have to do the opposite to show off they are better than Europeans

[@jesseberg3271]

@@Iason29 America will happily call your country whatever you want us to, just as long as we don't have to pronounce it correctly.

[@lordgarion514]

@@jesseberg3271 Or have to find it on a map.

[@bachpham6862]

@@Iason29 I don't think that is necessarily true. More like Russia was revoluting and getting itself into communism and US needs an ally who can embargo USSR and keep their weapon on USSR's doorstep.

[@yazovgaming]

America doesn't care

[@mattc9998]

Some say James Bizinet himself founded the original city...

[@TheSpecialOne-uy3im]

yeah it was James Bizinet not greeks, the city name should be James Bizinet city

[@stevenjlovelace]

Bizinetium

[@appleslover]

Jamesium bissonetium

[@Jajdjejwi28]

@@stevenjlovelace you sir are a genius

[@Alusnovalotus]

Enoch?

[@julianaylor4351]

Most major cities with long histories, have name changes, it's rare for one to not have name changes.

[@murat5108]

Thank you for the good summary! I can also add that the form Islambul/Islambol (undistinguished in the old script) which you showed in the video and which sometimes appears in Ottoman documents means 'find Islam' and 'Islam is plentiful [there]', respectively. It's doubtful that anybody ever pronounced the name of the city that way; rather, it was just a fanciful way of writing it by pious people. Also, in some European documents from the 19th century there seems to be a distinction between Istanbul and Constantinople, with the former used to refer to the historical peninsula that was the center of the city (and having a greater concentration of Muslims) and the latter to the city as a whole, with surrounding districts like Galata and Üsküdar being included. This distinction wasn't standardized or widespread, but perhaps it reflects the fact that Istanbul had become the more common name among Muslim inhabitants by that point.

[@risannd]

Many Islamist make false beliefs that "Islambol" was the official city name through Ottoman times, and "Istanbul" is just Turkish secular-nationalist creation.

[@mazgirt]

“İstanbul” da Yuncanca kök, “Şehir” demek.

[@fudgesamreh]

I live in Beylikdüzü Istanbul and trust me, I have seen many other cities. That are more religious and Islam oriented compared to Istanbul. I read a very interesting perspective. If the Holy Prophet peace and blessings be upon Him called the city Konstuntuniya (Constantinople ) then that's what it should be called. The change of name is to force Muslims, especially Turks to forget that the city will be liberated in the End Times

[@croesuslydias6488]

“Where are you headed, traveler?” “To the city!” (Εις την πολιν!) Istinpolin-Istanbul

[@Ups_downs_life_funny]

True

[@geertbeerens826]

So the name is still Greek I don't know what all the fuss is about :p

[@e.a9751]

@@geertbeerens826 there is nothing wrong with that

[@gixeco]

fuss is on the fact the turks named the city as they were all around the territory, no matter the origin of the word. The greeks cannot suffer the fact that the city became turkish. The name was just 1 of the many arguments they have daily on minor matters.

[@all-lowcostthenile6799]

Maybe because it was turkified? Might as well call it istinpolis.

[@captainpalegg2860]

"Except for the Greeks." Least surprising part of this video.

[@ygh1932]

The word Istanbul can’t be conjugated in Greek, its prononciation is unnatural in the Greek language and it symbolizes the turkification of Greek and Roman legacy. The closest we could call it is “Poli”, which literally drops the Constantine part from Constantinople so I don’t see the problem with calling it that.

[@napabilirim]

@@ygh1932 What about Eistinpoli? The word Istanbul came from the Greek word which means "to the city"

[@ygh1932]

Bruh that is as dumb as saying I’m going to the Tothecity

[@kn4042]

@@ygh1932 yeah but not any city, The City

[@ausar3852]

@@ygh1932 blame the idiots that came up with ''the city''

[@nathanbolles]

Congratulations on half a million subs!

[@FDNY101202]

Holy crap dude youre about to hit 500k 😍😍😍

[@DomiAngel]

Video title: When did Constantinople become Istanbul? Answer according to the Greeks: Never

[@meowpoosaymeow]

And that's true.

[@vapingcat5406]

Yes that's why It's called Istanbul right pals? Like 500 year have passed, Is It still under siege and We didn't got It?

[@vapingcat5406]

@Peanut Boi Ah damn, Fatih Sultan Mehmet Is still alive? Oh my god, wow.

[@fiendish9474]

*crying* It will always be Constantinople in my heart *Cries harder*

[@14thbattlegroupcommander]

@Finger Boi now, repeat with me. 🎵assume everything in the internet is a joke until proven serious, People are nationalistic of countries that dont exist but arent quite delirious🎵

[@jackhuston5298]

Istanbul: **exists** Me, who's 0.5% Greek: No it's Constantinople.

[@stantorren4400]

People who don’t understand Greeks: *visible confusion*

[@sandrojones8068]

It’s true. CONSTANTINOPLE. It’s just currently occupied.

[@stantorren4400]

Ales Jones man people gotta get their heads out of their arse and move for the future

[@insrtname8546]

@@sandrojones8068 its istanbul.

[@sgtweed9145]

Me, who's 0% Greek: No it's Constantinople and belongs to Greece

[@thefisherking78]

Well damn! I had never heard this correctly explained until now. Thanks!

[@donkmeister]

I've always found it bemusing that we don't always refer to places by the names that the inhabitants use. I can understand when it's a translation (Nederland in Dutch, meaning the exact same thing as Netherlands in English and Pays-bas in French) but sometimes it's the equivalent of introducing yourself to your neighbours as "Dave", but they then call you "Bobbington Steve-John the Third", because that's what the person who lived at your address 100 years ago was called. Deutschland... Founded in recent history, so no excuse about old languages... Except it's Germany if you're English, Allemagne if you're French. Because of old languages. Letzebuerg if you live there... but according to everyone who doesn't live there it's called some variation of "Luxembourg". Capital of the UK is London... except lots of other languages say "Lon" then go off on a tangent. Don't even start on the clusterfudge that is "use of the name Macedonia".

[@danidejaneiro8378]

We see it today with gender pronouns; some people just simply refuse to refer to others in the way that they want.

[@qfox16789]

Definitely the best iteration was the James Bizanet-named Byzantium

[@Jacksiloution]

XD

[@RealClutchMcGee]

Bisonette*

[@pennjazz]

Wouldn't that be Bisonette-ium? 😄😄😄

[@icecoldpolitics8890]

“Greeks call it the city” Turks convert it to Istanbul based off it “Angry Greek noises”

[@davidgil6485]

@@Iason29 you can't really take a joke

[@nursezatufek5716]

@@Iason29 oh look, a civilised person with a decent sense of humor that totally does not take the smallest thing as offensive. Dumbass.

[@briaormead4239]

@@Iason29 LOL the "civilised man" gets mad over a simple joke :D

[@icecoldpolitics8890]

Iason29 bro I’m pro Byzantine, Constantinople is best name why you coming at me with this

[@comradekenobi6908]

They even made a song about it!

[@WTF2BlueTiger]

This was actually much more nuanced but also less contreversial than I thought, super interesting!

[@josemarialezcano5293]

Hi, I love this channel. You do great job. May I suggest a video about how Luxemburg came into existence and stays in existance.

[@pachacutiincayupanqui2239]

Ironically that the founder of Constantinople and his last ruler were called Constantine. Like the founder and last ruler of Rome, were called Romulus The same thing was with Russia , which is usually called "the third Rome " or "the second Constantinople" because of the Orthodox religion . First russian tsar of Romanov dinasty was called Michael 1 and the last russian emperor and ruler of Romanov dinasty also was called Michael (who oficially ruled only 1 day after abdication of Nicholas 2)

[@angusyang5917]

the last ruler of Rome was called Romulus Augustus (-lus added posthumously), which is even more ironic b/c Augustus was the founder of the Roman Empire.

[@sandrojones8068]

Српски патриота why not? If Italians and Greeks decide to remake Rome I would support them, they are the heirs after all. Edit: Greek not Greens.

[@sandrojones8068]

Српски патриота Well done. I am glad you have pride. Just as I do in my roman ancestors. I did not mean that, but I’m glad you stood up for yourself.

[@Cjnw]

I think the Russian Tsars all alternated from bald to hairy, continuing even to today's President Putin!

[@moritz7613]

well nope russia was called third rome because they had an mariage with teodoro wich was part of the byzantine empire. sort of

[@justinian-the-great]

You know it's ironic that almost no one ever called Constantinople/Istanbul by it's first official name, that is New Rome. Yep, that was official name during the entire Byzantine/Eastern Roman period! It really talks about how Constantine didn't had any imagination with naming things. I mean just look up how he named his children, it's hilarious.

[@erickrasniewski567]

Crisupus,Constantine 2, cosatnus, and consanutius 2

[@iuliusconstantcornelio2018]

Yes, and he was the second last emperor to rule a united empire ( the last being Theodosius ). And his reign was the last period of glory for the whole Roman Empire. Maybe not a lot of imagination for names, but by far one of the most important emperors of Rome !

[@fane757]

technically there were 4 other guys after him to rule the whole empire. His son constantius II, his half-nephew Julian, a random general named Jovian and Theodosius. They all had quite short reigns so it really doesn't matter Constantine might as well be the last emperor to rule the whole empire

[@johnrichards7337]

Valentinian the Great: Am I a joke to you?

[@Agahmoyzen2]

Greek commoners also didn't call the city constantinople or constantinopolis cause you know who the hell has time for that. that '''to the city'' greek word is the real source o the name which was the common use.

[@Spookyhoobster]

This video really captures the chaos of that "they might be giants" song.

[@vassa1972]

Great and interesting video

[@yupyupthatsacup6652]

History Matters: when did Constantinople become Istanbul? Me, an intellectual: when did Byzantium become Constantinople?

[@gingerfool]

ham onion

[@Laxinator3000]

It says it in the video

[@Ar-pz4cp]

"Personally, I prefer Miklagard" -2:47

[@ChrisDynamo]

An intellectual would be aware of Constantine creating Constantinople.

[@jasonmartin4775]

When did Byzantion become Byzantium?

[@xpictos777]

"If the Earth were a single state, Constantinople would be its capital." - Napoleon Bonaparte

[@aegeanharrier6648]

He was going to make a global empire with Constantinople as its capital. I would like to live in that tbh

[@emememememem]

@@aegeanharrier6648 you mean istanbul?

[@JohnHavlasek]

@@emememememem Its Constantinople not gay as Instabul.

[@vvmax4375]

Unfortunately now it would be Tokyo. But Tokyo is still pretty epic

[@kyomademon453]

Roma, Madrid or Mexico city are far better options

[@dmeads5663]

“I’m on my way to the city” “Which city?” “THE city”

[@BuffaloTLK]

Underrated comment

[@abdurehmanmalik2980]

"Jesse there are half a dozen cities named 'THE CIty', be more specific."

[@azlanadil3646]

Ahh, thanks mate.

[@magnusengeseth5060]

I'm pretty sure there was a period when it was called Stamboul in England at least. I know Graham Greene wrote a book called Stamboul Train in the '30s, and I think I remember it being called that a couple of times in Murder on the Orient Express as well.

[@thomasjunker5415]

"...except the Greeks." So, is there no mail service between Turkey and Greece? XD

[@khphesh]

JimmyNeutron7 that counts as no mail

[@ahmetonal8498]

We have, and at this time we don't care Greeks they re always cry

[@seneca983]

There is but only to one direction! (JK)

[@bruensal7182]

@UCR4P105MknmJhAsVnlIVfHA there is no holiday on the 6th of october

[@serefsevik8368]

@UCR4P105MknmJhAsVnlIVfHA Bruh why so mad? Turks conquered İstanbul twice with the second time being without any fights while Greeks couldn't even hold İzmir. Recognize and accept success rather than being a sour bitch about it. You'll at least look like smart than. Emphasis on "at least look like".

[@jasongrig]

As a Greek, I am impressed with how well this topic was covered! Good job!

[@nasthuner]

So will you give up to call city as Constantinople ?

[@mazgirt]

@@nasthuner why tho?

[@Mauros-Lykos]

@@nasthuner Don’t be afraid, it will not happen in this lifetime

[@qy9892]

@@mazgirt Because that name isn’t used anymore

[@mazgirt]

@@qy9892 so?

[@jono00771]

Thanks to the 90 cartoon and the great song got me hooked to find out everything about this place and its history

[@sladewinberry8283]

This channel is pure brilliance.

[@keizervanenerc5180]

I am about to make everyone annoyed: ISTANTINOPLE

[@TheFederalist11]

Actually, you have done the opposite

[@VenomousCompany]

@@reenasingh6693 Has India actually banned Tik Tok? Good idea! Kill that cringe fest.

[@reenasingh6693]

@@VenomousCompany yes sir

[@colton.421]

ommaster8 aka moomoo milk Good

[@keizervanenerc5180]

@@challah4311 Bystantinobul

[@garrettk.2257]

Because "James bizzanet city" was too confusing.

[@user-cl5oh8fl4w]

Istanbul was Constantinople Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople Been a long time gone, Constantinople Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night Every gal in Constantinople Lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople So if you've a date in Constantinople She'll be waiting in Istanbul Even old New York was once New Amsterdam Why they changed it I can't say People just liked it better that way So, take me back to Constantinople No, you can't go back to Constantinople Been a long time gone, Constantinople Why did Constantinople get the works? That's nobody's business but the Turks Istanbul, Istanbul Istanbul, Istanbul Even old New York was once New Amsterdam Why they changed it I can't say People just liked it better that way Istanbul was Constantinople Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople Been a long time gone, oh Constantinople Why did Constantinople get the works? That's nobody's business but the Turks So, take me back to Constantinople No, you can't go back to Constantinople Been a long time gone, Constantinople Why did Constantinople get the works? That's nobody's business but the Turks Istanbul After watching the video , the song makes a lot more sense

[@AykutHnk]

Watching this, I am missing Istanbul

[@VergiliosSpatulas]

Fatherless comment.

[@sbarros78]

as you said now it is turkish,but perhaps in the future it will return to those who create it.fair enough right?

[@sbarros78]

@@VergiliosSpatulas like turkish civilatation

[@brianwashedhunter1150]

​@@sbarros78 And in this future do Americans return to Europe?? And latine American return to Spain amd Italy? Just curious

[@abdulrahmanabdulaziz8742]

Interesting to see how the Greeks refuse to use the new name Istanbul, even though it's actually a Greek name.

[@lunakoala5053]

It's turkish butchery of a greek name. Also to greeks, it's not "THE City" anymore. It used to be their capital and biggest city. Now it's just some foreign city.

[@dimk735]

@@lunakoala5053 no no, its not just some foreign city, it still is the City. greeks still have a feeling of familiarity with it, although it doesn't belong to us.

[@bravebeatt2760]

@@dimk735 just like western tracia and north iraq(also most of the National Pact (Misak-ı Milli)) But we know they are no more our territories and saying it won't give them back. Btw all countries has some territories like that,

[@dimk735]

@@bravebeatt2760 eh, I doth understand exactly what you are talking about but thrace was a Greek territory for a couple of millenia. so no, western thrace historically belongs to us.

[@bravebeatt2760]

@@dimk735 istanbul dindt be a cspital of turkiye but istanbul was capital of ottoman empire

[@iacobibrasiliensium2139]

"Why did Constantinople get the works?" "That's nobody's business but the Turks"

[@Shadowkiller-dq2ju]

People just like it better that way

[@iacobibrasiliensium2139]

@That_ Dude Istanbul not Constantinople, by "They might be Giants"

[@hankwegesin2730]

That song was going through my head all through this video.

[@someoneintheworld4671]

Most of the world: Ankara The Greeks: ⚓

[@furkanonuraydnoglu540]

I didn't get this

[@enyalios316]

@@furkanonuraydnoglu540 Ankara was called "Ankyra/Ancyra" (Άγκυρα) in antiquity. And άγκυρα means anchor⚓ in Greek. And this is funny.

[@jimaljojon1879]

What a stupid coomment. Ankara and many turkish city names as well, comes from mispronpuncing Angkira (άγκυρα)

[@bumblebeeeoptimus]

In Portuguese, anchor is âncora, very similar to Greek

[@emperorpalpatine2506]

Anchor in swedish is ankare so we can basically also make fun of their names.

[@greenbutter3190]

Stable video 👍

[@joshuastrawser9160]

All I'm hearing in my head now is They Might Be Giants....

[@aleksandarrendic8631]

There's always comments about James Bizanet, but what about Man Of Culture?

[@alexander1055]

James Bizanett _IS_ a Man of Culture.

[@ChrisDynamo]

Still weird that the people who pay the most in patreon never comment, never even read the comments. It's fucking bizarre, not responding to your own celebrity status.

[@gfaDiaspa]

@@ChrisDynamo Maybe they do, under an alias. Maybe we're not ready to deal with James Bizanett himself!

[@queso3926]

HM: When did Constantinople become Istanbul? Me: In 1453 obviously HM: ...in 1923 Me: .-.

[@James_Mansbridge]

Well, makes sense when you remember that many in Greece still called themselves Roman in the early 20th Century.

[@dopax3]

@@AhmetwithaT We never did :P

[@eget4144]

@@dopax3 Fun Fact: In turkey we still call greeks roman (rum)

[@briaormead4239]

@@eget4144 If they are living in turkey we call them rum, if they are living in greece we call them yunan. What i just said is mostly a "rule of thumb", sometimes greeks living in greece are called rum sometimes greeks living in turkey are called yunan but it's best not to confuse the people who know that greeks are called yunan in turkish.

[@zerox8413]

@@briaormead4239 called Greek yunan?! Meanwhile: somewhere angry 🇨🇳 glare at you

[@flawyerlawyertv7454]

Thanks for this nformation. 👍

[@odeleon24]

That post-credits ending was gold!

[@zakariamussa3703]

i visited istanbul before covid and i loved it a lot. 10/10 would recommend. salam from denmark

[@indirelinikole]

Salam is not Turkish, selam is

[@bthn5102]

Yeah "merhaba or selam" is good enough.

[@indirelinikole]

@@bthn5102 If you really do want a word purely of Turkic/sh roots merhaba and selam wouldn't count either, but they work of course, as they are the most common ones and have become a part of Turkish. If you want to use an original Turkic word you can try "Esenlikler", nobody really uses it in daily life, it is mostly used by nationalists

[@modernopoletto2266]

Sucuk from Turkey

[@dedsrsngl]

Denmark is a White country

[@glorifiedtoaster4368]

Where is Constantinople? *Pointing to heart I N H E R E

[@sharkronical]

@@Hairysteed milka guard

[@bilinmeyen3391]

löl, dead city

[@bilinmeyen3391]

@Dogu Kilickap based answer kardeşim. cCc

[@ataturkataturkataturkkemal8510]

*İstanbul not constantinpolenitpoleonsatinopole ok you guys are realy fool*

[@thesummergamer7245]

🇬🇷

[@alfredthegreatkingofwessex6838]

_“We demand to be taken seriously”_ -The Turkish

[@grayfox6930]

"No" -The Greeks

[@bthn5102]

Thats just rude xdd

[@mfallen161]

"That's nobodies business but the Turks"

[@whizwart1]

Why they changed it, I can't say

[@tk5gqj514]

@@whizwart1 _people just like it better that way_

[@EthioMod]

1453 was an outside job.

[@c4andafter-.--518]

Lmao love your videos man

[@azamkhan1526]

Turkish* job

[@comradekenobi6908]

@@azamkhan1526 Turks with guns, big guns

[@qootzstarr8116]

oh bruh, fr watching obscure history videos

[@spiritusIRATUS]

It was actually, the Crusaders sacked the city in 1204 and it never recovered. In 1453 it still held more than a month against an overwhelming force with bombards, full control of the surrounding area and endless supplis.

[@ayboz097]

1:52 turkish capital at the time was(and still is)ankara 1:15 at the time istanbul had many names and none of the names was widely accepted some used istinpolin some used stanbul some even used şehr-i devriye 1:42 he did it in 1930

[@luket.9113]

Why did they move it to Ankara anyway?

[@ayboz097]

@@luket.9113 ankara was more centralised than istanbul and held the first national congress

[@sanadedixeptar5214]

@@luket.9113 Cause the republic distanced itself from the empire. And Ankara was the heartland of turkish war of independence. It was almost at the center of turkey, even tho its in anatolia roads and railways were centeralised and probably the biggest city that wasnt occupied in that time. If Ankara was not chosen for capital, it could be İzmir (or smyrna i dunno which one you want to choose) but city was occupied by greeks

[@Raapax]

@@luket.9113 Because 1-Ankara is far away from other nations and Istanbul is near Bulgaria and Greece 2-First congress happened there

[@AhmetwithaT]

@@luket.9113 There are several reasons. 1) A lot more defensible since it doesn't have a sea that can let an invading navy in. 2) The resistance against the Sultan/Independence movement was based more in Anatolia and Ankara had useful rail and communication lines so it made sense to put the first parliament there. 3) Similar to how changing into İstanbul was about making a clear distinction between the old and the new order, moving the capital also showed very clearly that the new republic was different from what was before. Also don't forget that the last sultan and the royal family was still in Istanbul and they stayed there for some time even after the declaration of the republic. The old order could have slowly taken over if the government was still located in the exact same place.

[@womperfrog]

This takes the TMBG song to a WHOLEEEE new level.

[@corndog5487]

As a Greek the last part except the Greeks really made me happy

[@h3w45]

Yes that will give it back to you..!

[@user-og8zx2fe4n]

@@h3w45 no but our armed forces might...in 1921 we nearly got it back, you never know what's coming next

[@deezalmonds7680]

@@user-og8zx2fe4n What armed forces? The population of Istanbul is 150% of Greeces as a whole, Istanbul alone could defend itself against Greece 😂

[@OMGWTFITSJESUS]

@@deezalmonds7680 i doubt that, u have to look at where nato is investing ;). for example look at Ukraine / russia war u would say russia win but they arent. Nato has been investing big times into greece last few years. im pretty sure Greece has the upper hand, tho in reality like it or not. not to mention turkey is pretty much bankrupt they cant even afford a thing. anyway war aint gonna happen since they both are NATO. greeks have no problems with turks nor do turks with greeks. its just politics idiots who keep dumping little oil on the fire. i mean im married to a greek and she does things i cant understand (im not greek far from a greek so culture differences) when i ask some of my friends (turks) they understand her perfectly fine and agree with her. (no im not a turk either ;)) turks and greeks are really close to each other in the way of doing things like it or not.

[@user-og8zx2fe4n]

​@@deezalmonds7680the armed forces that ruled asia minor for 3,5 years, was the population of greece bigger than ottoman empire back then? No you were simply weaker and we took the opportunity, dont rely on numbers we were always fewer than you

[@nokoushokous1296]

As a Greek I must say…. We call it Constantinople fallowing the ancient tradition in the Balkans of making disputes out of nothing. It’s the small things in life that makes it fun.

[@elrohirtinuviel47]

At least an honest answer, thank you xd

[@Emrek157]

As a Turk I admire how Greek people love making disputes out of nothing hahahah

[@Agramsch]

As I Serb I like to say... nvm.

[@jodofe4879]

@@Emrek157 Pretending Turks are any different :p

[@ziadbaha1699]

@@jodofe4879 you must be so fun at parties

[@Welshman2008]

Add They Might Be Giants Reference here. Even old New York was Once New Amsterdam

[@IanCordingley]

Kid wants a coffee, black

[@comradekenobi6908]

@@IanCordingley no shit there's grown men attempting to murder him

[@tall1sobay]

Love the video, but kinda dissapointed you didn't find a way to put They might be Giants in ther somewhere.

[@cinarark]

I would like to provide a Turkish close captioning to this video. Could you please advise as to how can i send the full Turkish text to you? Best regards from Istanbul.

[@shafinrahman2199]

You know a city is important when it's literally called "the City" with a capital C

[@Dreagostini]

Not in Germany, you know.

[@JoaquinMartinezKeen]

I burst into tears seeing this recommended.

[@lol-xs9wz]

@@talha7309 its a cool city. lol

[@jamesearlcash7725]

Who else hates the new way comments are viewed on cell phones?

[@grayfox6930]

Usually I detest these types of comments but I agree so whole heartedly with this that it forces my feelings on the previous matter out the window.

[@Perririri]

0:24 ( right ) - Who thought of *Alex Trebek?*

[@Cnut_the_grape]

How much would history change if Constantine chose Sofia, Bulgaria as the new Roman Capital?

[@mortache]

@@meganoobbg3387 okay but that may have been different if it became a Roman capital. Still, Byzantion was the perfect location for the center of the Western world

[@Veriox22]

It would probably never become a bulgarian city since it would be heavily guarded by the empire's best soldiers.

[@joermnyc]

It would have fallen to the Bulgarian Empire (the first one) instead of the Ottomans many centuries later. The fourth crusade would have probably gone much differently though.

[@briaormead4239]

@@joermnyc It probably would never fall to bulgarians as it would be the best defended city. Probably surrounding areas would be well defended as well. So bulgaria might not exist/be in a different place in this universe.

[@ismailfurkanesel8665]

he actually wanted to chose Sofia but out of some reason i cant quite remember now he chose that place and named it constantine

[@sail2byzantium]

Excellent! I knew that "Istanbul" derived from the Greek meaning "(to) the city" but the fuller explanation of the evolution of the name is very clarifying. Thanks, HM!

[@ayhankaracaoglu6845]

Not Greek but Rum ! Greeks are extinct in history about 2500 years ago

[@sail2byzantium]

@@ayhankaracaoglu6845 RE: Greeks are extinct in history about 2500 years ago No.

[@ayhankaracaoglu6845]

@@sail2byzantium what you say is nonsense. Rums converted to Greek by brainwashing and indoctrination. Aristo's language is a foreign lang to a Rum. Though they produce silly arguments for this too. If you not existwho will sell europeannes and democrasy to other people as a asian origin rum.

[@sail2byzantium]

@@ayhankaracaoglu6845 Still no.

[@isabellacatolica5594]

​@@ayhankaracaoglu6845wtffff

[@zz449944]

♫♫♫ "If you've got a date in Constanstinople, she'll be waiting in Instanbul"... ♫♫♫

[@teoman_evren]

Fun episode

[@hiimjustin8826]

Even though a lot was left out of this video (although Istanbul's entire history isn't really relative to the name change) I still learned a lot from this video about the mechanisms involved in naming the city. Multiple sources matters!

[@aleksandarvil5718]

Everybody: 1) Constantinople; 2) Istanbul Me, as an intelectual: *I S L A M B O L* 1:19

[@ahmedmuawia2447]

Ah a man of culture I see.

[@comraderat9102]

Islamic Bolshevism

[@ayboz097]

Please do not use that, only turkish islamic nationalists use that and it doesn't even make sense

[@Fulllife3.2]

Daniel b What the hell is Isl[STAR ICON]mbol?

[@Bepples]

islambol is fake etymology

[@hko2006]

2:37 I wait for this one every video

[@animacionesesteban8963]

I love how I'm just thinking something about history and you always answer me my historic questions

[@tomkruger5859]

When Ezio kicked the Templars ass, thats when

[@crocodileguy4319]

Templars are the good guys

[@knoblauch3450]

I love Assassin's Creed franchise, but I disliked how Revelations was so anti-Byzantine and pro-Ottoman.

[@tomkruger5859]

Could you stop starting a discussion in my shitpost?

[@crocodileguy4319]

@Eddy yea, because they were assholes.

[@crocodileguy4319]

@Eddy they were far worse

[@MelchiorPhilips]

That's nobody's business but the Turks.

even old new york was once new amsterdam...

[@Cliff_Dixon_42]

Why they changed it, I can't say! *People just liked it better that way.*

[@wilmerbesitan1200]

“Why did Constantinople get the Works? That’s nobody’s business but the Turks” 🤣

[@MurshedAnam]

Do an episode on the Battle of Palashi or Plassey

[@ryaningham5374]

Ottoman empire: I'm gonna ruin this mans whole career

[@Sea-zu4bj]

Not really didn’t Christian crusaders sack it in 1204?

[@zettic6783]

@@Sea-zu4bj yep, 4th crusade practically killed the empire. After that it would never march in force again

[@avantelvsitania3359]

> When did Constantinople become Istanbul? Greece: never

[@friendlycreature6375]

Did you know there is a city called "Constantine" in Algeria, it's full of Bridges. Look it up, it has something to do with Constantinople historically.

[@alibutt1465]

Who cares what greeks think.

[@iplyrunescape305]

@@alibutt1465 me. ALWAYS WILL BE CONSTANTINOPLE

[@aizseeker3622]

Well Roman care about them and absorbed and spread their culture to western civilizations

[@smug4833]

@@iplyrunescape305 are you high

[@sykeraid4944]

No reference to the band "They Might Be Giants"? That's a thumbs up from me.

[@jurmanjiojurmancki5929]

Istinpoli = Stampolis = Istanbul is also a Greek name. 😁 Any city name ending with “bul, bol, bolu” is Greek name given for cities in Anatolia which is called Turkey after 1923. Bolu: Poli Gelibolu: Gallipoli Inebolu Safranbolu (Safron city) Tirebolu and many more! (Search and find more)

[@TeacherRobert]

Let's go visit the city. What city? The city. What? The city!

[@arthurlombard5181]

Turkey: either you call it Istanbul or you wont get your mail! Europe: okay... Greece: LMAO! No

[@comradekenobi6908]

@@talha7309 Istanbul (not Constantinople)

[@patatesaraskumpr3228]

@@comradekenobi6908 Islambol not istanbul.

[@yazovgaming]

@@patatesaraskumpr3228 you are all wrong it is Miklagard! I still prefer the name Constantinople

[@fuseydunae397]

i think constantinople is more cool

[@patatesaraskumpr3228]

@@fuseydunae397 well it's not your job to choose name to city that we own and i live. If you don't live Islambol, then you will find constantinople cooler... (Islambol means a lot of faith )

[@thormorante8264]

"Except for the Greeks." Brutal closure.

[@petrospetromixos6962]

@Knight Rider Oh they do they do, f they didnt they wouldnt have change the name in the first place

[@petrospetromixos6962]

@Knight Rider turkey is based on genocide,nationalism and ethnic purity thats why it had to change the name and out of fear for the greeks they brought so many people in eastern thrace, ottoman empire was based on the romans it was build and supported by the romans ,the sultans were calling themselves emperors of romans and the ottoman empire survived by the heavy taxation on said romans, when Greece left ottoman empire the empire couldnt last but 100 more years before it crambled

[@afiffarhati4580]

I almost thought that James Bisonette was the one who changed the capital's name , since he's probably the one financing it...