Historical Restoration of a Stanley Bedrock

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Today We are restoring a Stanley Bedrock. but this will not be your typical restoration. we will be doing a conservation-restoration of the hand plane.
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[@haroldschultz5864]

That's my favorite restoration type , I just found a 605 this summer for a crazy $5 . Nice job James , keeping the history and character .

[@TheHandToolery]

Nicely done as always, James!

[@JAMESMT-mm6zl]

I have 5 planes that I use every day, that I restored exactly the same way. Good video, thanks for sharing.

[@hartleymartin]

I restored a set of Stanley Transitional Planes (Beech sole) so far as cleaning them up, flattening the sole (so much easier on a transitional plane!) and sharpening the blades. The old No. 26 Type 10 (1892-1899) is now my daily driver plane, and I often use it to trim doors for client work!

[@TheArtofCraftsmanship]

Beautiful work!

[@jayantilaljpatel4678]

I like your submission for value in restoration.

[@MCsCreations]

Really beautiful work, James! 😃 Another tip about the vinegar... For bigger pieces you can prepare a paste of vinegar and wheat flour in the stove. This way you can apply over the piece with a brush and leave during the night. 😊 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@MarvinBlank]

Excellent! This is restoration done the proper way.

[@mellowfellow9]

I only have one bedrock, a type 3 607. I bought this because I really needed a jointer and it was cheap at an antique tool show.. I bought a new blade, but didn't restore it. I used it on a project 5 yrs ago, and haven't touched it since until this morning. I finally took it apart to see all the casting marks etc and deemed it a type 3. I'm glad I saw your video. I'll let the next generation restore it.

[@jerrystark3587]

A good conservation restoration. Nice work.

[@jimstewart1044]

OH MY! I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU DID THAT.... great restoration! I haven't dipped my toes in the hand plane pool yet. I'd like to find a "trained" one that I could restore so it could teach me the ways of the jedi.

[@triune_blades]

What I suggest is to buy a simple block plane(i.e. 110 or 220 style) or a cheaper manufacturer bench plane that would cost you a mere couple bucks. You can learn on one like that so you're not "destroying" the value of an actual collectable plane if you were to make a major mistake in the process. On the flip side, if it's a success, you could maybe even increase that tools value and sell it for a small profit. You just never know until you try.🤷 Plane Collector's channel is another awesome resource for learning what should/could be done for a restoration. Good luck! Oh, and here's a disclaimer: Once you restore one, you'll probably never want to stop there. 😉

[@ericstoever9577]

Thanks for sharing! Be well, stay safe, and take good care.

[@chriscunicelli7070]

Nice plane James!

[@billdodson207]

extremely helpful explanation of the choices made

[@benm5913]

There's a how to version in the description.

[@gabemcginnis2688]

So satisfying, even if we are not the ones doing.

[@CoolRestorations]

This is one my todo list 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@jamesletner7555]

It looks like a monster plane

[@woodfather]

Good fun to watch, cheers

[@Sawblade02]

Very nice, I similarly restored a #6 a couple of years ago with much more gratuitous use of a scotch brite pad. It has the same broken tote that I still haven't gotten around to fixing.

[@hassanal-mosawi4235]

Thanks for sharing that!

[@jimnmyra]

Nice job!

[@timbarry5080]

I don't understand the frog adjustment on my bedrock 604. I know how to move it forward and back.. but since the bed it mates to is at and angle the further forward the frog goes the more the cutting iron projects out the bottom of the plane. I then have to back the blade adjustment so I'm not cutting too deep. But then the gap for the chip is back to where I started. It never gets tighter. What am I missing?

[@WoodByWright]

As you move the frog forward the gap should get smaller even though it's on an angle. Yes you do have to back up the iron some but that doesn't change that. It moved forward as well. I think I'm not understanding the problem. The physics work exactly the same way on a standard frog as a bedrock frog.

[@josephlathrop1914]

I was Sanding the varnish off my tote handle and Noticed a number three in white on the right side of the handle and one else found these or know what they are for? my plane is suppose to be a Stanley Bedrock number 605 with Corrugated Soul so its not the size unless it was taken from another plane.

[@WoodByWright]

Probably from an old shop class. They used to number the sets of tools

[@douglasconnett3529]

Very timely video. Bought a 605 yesterday and it needs some work before using. Biggest concern is the tote broken in half. Seems impossible to use without at least gluing the tote back together. Not sure of the best glue for that purpose either. Looks like a pretty clean break. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

[@WoodByWright]

I would use hide glue. It's much easier to clean off the outside with any squeeze out without hurting the finish. You could actually clean it off with a wet rag and some scrubbing.

[@douglasconnett3529]

Thanks, I'll give it a try

[@scotthewes2431]

Hi, I want a jointer plane, Stanley No7’s used in good condition go for from 100 to 200 dollars in my area. A brand new Stanley No 7 is 106.00 on Amazon. Are the used ones that much better that I would pay the same or more and still have to restore the plane? Or would I be better off buying new for $106.00? This plane would be a user, don’t care about collectors value. Thanks!

[@WoodByWright]

The older ones are better in fit and finish, and they will hold their settings better. Depending on where you are at you can get an antique that needs a bit of work for $40-80. That would be my suggestion. But the new ones will work. Just understand getting them up and going is much like restoring an old one.

[@stevekelley1179]

Do you know if the number 5 bedrock are built the same way?

[@WoodByWright]

the same way as what? the design changed over the years but they were built in the same factory as the normal Stanyels.

[@stevekelley1179]

@@WoodByWright I bought a number 5. But the frog is different it's more like a normal stanley. And the body has no name on it.

[@cguitarallday]

Interesting to see resolve carpet cleaner. Is that what was in spray bottle and why carpet cleaner?

[@WoodByWright]

Yup. I like that is is PH nutrial, soft, and it cuts grease and oil berry well.

[@anthonydtobias]

May I ask, what's the average value of it and why is it worth it? Curious 🙂. Wonderful video 👍

[@WoodByWright]

This is a Stanley bedrock. They are far more collectible than the average Stanley. So a normal number five like this in this kind of condition is around 20 to $30 to ping pong where you get it. Stanley bedrock and this condition is around $100 to $200.

[@anthonydtobias]

@@WoodByWright interesting. Thank you for the information. 👍

[@JeremyB8419]

You can soak it in vinegar

[@triune_blades]

I'm looking for a 605C type 6. The one I have is a rust bucket type 5 and I'm trying to collect a whole set, but I want them to be type 6.

[@WoodByWright]

If you go down the list of online sellers on handtoolfinder.com I'm sure a couple of them would have one in stock.

[@triune_blades]

@@WoodByWright thank you sir!

[@williamgolby9635]

Nice job Do you have any alternatives for the stropping compound that is cheaper then the propper stuff

[@WoodByWright]

I actually make my own. the stuff I sell on my website. But I don't know how it can get much cheaper then around $5 a block that size will last you years. I have been working on my small block for 4 years and I have only used around 25% of it.

[@williamgolby9635]

@@WoodByWright ok cool

[@JT-hw6mq]

Have you ever used EVAPO-RUST on a restore?

[@WoodByWright]

Quite often it is great at removing rust. However it also will eat through the patina. If I'm restoring it for functional use or wanting to make it look like new I'll use that or WD-40 specialist rust remover.

[@jpatch32]

Great job!! One question though. What brand watch are you wearing?

[@WoodByWright]

Lol thanks. It is a Garmin Fenix 5X It is designed for ultra running and long-distance sports.

[@gustafzetterstrom570]

You need to restore your screwdriver too.

[@stevenolson8504]

I inherited a bedrock 606, a Stanley Bailey #4 type 11 and a rough #5 type 17. The 606 and the #4 are usable but need cleaning. The 5 is missing the yoke and is rusty. I’m trying to decide if I should get an original yoke or one of the new impro😢Reed yokes from your website. I intend for all 3 to be users

[@WoodByWright]

It is just personal preference. But if you're planning on using a thicker iron or if the slop from the original yolk is annoying to you then you may want to upgrade..

[@ryanallthewiser]

No loving to the wood... tsk tsk. Great job on turning the tool in a useable tool. Nice!!

[@clydedecker765]

I got 5 planes in a lot from E-Bay and their condition matched -- pretty much -- what you ended with BUT they had parts that were NOT necessarily the right ones for each of the planes. They seem to be a mix match of parts but not original. Now I am kind of at a loss to be sure which and where to find the "correct" parts for the bodies I have. I suppose the question is - where can I get a simplified statement of what size blade/bed/chip breaker/mouth combos they should be to be "normal"? It seems like the blade is too narrow - or the adjustment fit is poor or the slot is too short ...that kind of problems. Much about the planes are good but ...

[@WoodByWright]

that is a huge ball of wax and it depends on the plane and the type of that plane. usually I call up a collector of that type to see what is on their plane. but if you ask the hand plane collecting groups they would be glad to help with that.

[@clydedecker765]

@@WoodByWright Thank you James.

[@virtuosooo]

I really shouldn't have watched this video... ive been cleaning so many tools the last few months, most of which were 100+yrs old with 100yrs of rust to remove. I just got done with all of them from my last lot of tools I bought. And I swore I wasn't going to fix up another tool for at least a few months. After watching this video though it's put me in the mood to resurrect another tool lol. I think there might be something wrong with me lol...

[@WoodByWright]

Welcome to the club our support group meats on Thursdays.

[@usaf4dbt]

Does your wife know you used her tooth brush? Any old plane I buy, I only clean it up so it just works for me, good show!

[@WoodByWright]

Lol don't tell her.

[@stufarnham]

Resolve?

[@WoodByWright]

Surprisingly yes. I talk about it on the how to channel. Works amazingly.

[@grumpygus81]

I think "Historical Cleaning of a Stanley Bedrock" would have been a bit more honest... I'm not saying I didn't enjoy the video, just found it misleading and was really hoping to see an actual restoration since I'm about to attack one for the first time.

[@WoodByWright]

I was going back and forth in the title of this one. And I decided to call it restoration as that is what people in the business tend to call it even if you're not restoring it to original condition you are restoring it to current patina. also I wanted to show the difference between doing something for personal benefit and use and doing something for collectibility and resale. I have well over 100 other videos showing how to restore a hand plane for functionality and making it look as good as new. But I haven't done one like this before.

[@waynelewis881]

To restore is to return to original state. The word is as misused as the tools.

[@WoodByWright]

That is a common misconception. It really depends on which field you're talking about. Different fields will define the word very differently.

[@bostontricker211]

Until you return that plane looking like it once did came out of the box, I don’t see any value in it

[@douglashaner6802]

Most people want an older tool to have patina but not rust or other grime. If you want it to look new again, will likey never happen.

[@stephencase5160]

I would call that conservation, rather than restoration.

[@WoodByWright]

That is a very interesting discussion in the collection world. The terms cleaning, conservation, restoration, all have wildly different uses in different applications and in different fields. It's a great way to start an argument with a group of collectors. Lol

[@stephencase5160]

@@WoodByWright No doubt. I'm a visual artist, and there are similar conversations about paintings and other artworks. I say conservation because you have preserved a usable tool for the future, without significantly altering its original condition.

[@lvonh9388]

FIRST

[@lvonh9388]

well done son.

[@WoodByWright]

Congrats on first!