History of the Japanese Language

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LingoLizard

LingoLizard

Күн бұрын

A video going through the history and of the Japanese language, with many of the changes in sound and grammar, and the historical context of the language throughout the ages!
0:00 Intro
0:58 Old Japanese
4:32 Early Middle Japanese
7:10 Late Middle Japanese
8:42 Early Modern Japanese
10:20 Modern Japanese
#Japanese #language #languages #linguistics

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@Aoiraider
@Aoiraider Жыл бұрын
Oh my god. I studied Japanese for 15 years and have my N1, and this completely blew my mind. We need like 8 more videos diving into each of these topics please! 😅
@purpleplays69420
@purpleplays69420 7 ай бұрын
I’m learning Japanese and hearing people say “I’ve been learning/learned Japanese more than a decade” reinforces my patience in learning because it basically tells me that it doesn’t matter how long it takes to learn a language so long as you’re learning
@SJ95111
@SJ95111 4 ай бұрын
How did tou start off?
@Garbaz
@Garbaz Жыл бұрын
That was very interesting! I've been learning Japanese for some years now, but I've never really questioned how the sounds of the language as they are today came to be. I would also love to hear more about the evolution of Japanese grammar, which I am very fond of.
@ceyhuncv26
@ceyhuncv26 7 ай бұрын
Me too
@MarkRosa
@MarkRosa Жыл бұрын
Anyone who enjoyed this great video should also read Bjarke Frellesvig's "The Japanese Language", which covers all these changes in great detail with lots of sample texts. I had the pleasure of taking his class and it was one of the most enjoyable I have ever taken.
@no.7893
@no.7893 6 ай бұрын
After reading G.B. Sansom's Japan: A short Cultural History I've gotten a taste for a good non-fiction now and then and so I looked it up on amazon, I can't lie I was startled by the £111.40 hardcover price tag haha. Guess I'll be sticking to paperback😅
@ElectrostatiCrow
@ElectrostatiCrow Жыл бұрын
That transition to the sponsor was smooth as butter.
@pyroclastic8924
@pyroclastic8924 7 ай бұрын
the comparison of hiragana and katakana to their original manyougana explains so much, thank you. this is so fascinating
@jort93z
@jort93z Жыл бұрын
I find the massive spelling reform in 1946 quite notworthy... it introduced small kana (きよ vs きょ) and changed every ゐ (wi), ゑ (we), を (wo) to い (i), え (e), お (o). before 1946, おお was spelled おを(owo)
@darius684
@darius684 Жыл бұрын
Didn't know about this and im half japanese thx
@cubing7276
@cubing7276 Жыл бұрын
how did を as a particle survived then?
@jort93z
@jort93z Жыл бұрын
@@cubing7276 Like MeChupa says, they made an exception for particles. You can look it up if you want, my comment obviously doesn't give the whole picture.
@gabiu2429
@gabiu2429 Жыл бұрын
@@jort93z Do you know what "me chupa" means in Portuguese...?
@linxed1345
@linxed1345 11 ай бұрын
@@gabiu2429 hahahaha
@laurentbouvier7334
@laurentbouvier7334 Жыл бұрын
It's rare to see a youtube video with so much background research and knowledge. Well done!
@fictthecreator7083
@fictthecreator7083 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this info together! It seems all too often people talk about the language as some static monolith, without taking into consideration the history and diversity associated with it. This is a great reference guide for looking at some of that history!
@ori5315
@ori5315 Жыл бұрын
Really interesting video! I enjoyed learning a lot here. I just have one mild criticism, in your attempt to show how a non-affricated /ti/ and /tu/ were pronounced at 1:16 you still affricated these sounds because you do this in your regular English too! Not many people realise that their aspirated /t(ʰ)/ is actually affricated, and it's not widely taught, but once you start noticing it you can't stop hearing it!
@khelian613
@khelian613 Жыл бұрын
I feel like there's such a gap between the written and actual phonetic english, especially considering the different varieties that are spoken and how much variation they bring, that it can actually be hard to grasp how different so many phonemes are pronounced compared to the corresponding IPA symbol.
@aloysiusdevadanderabercrombie8
@aloysiusdevadanderabercrombie8 Жыл бұрын
This is actually something I've noticed seems common in the Asian-American sociolect. /t/ tends to be affricated when aspirated, as well as often utterance-finally or even word-finally, sort of as a counterpart to the common ejective realization of word-final voiceless stops. Is this a common realization in any other dialects?
@Unbrutal_Rawr
@Unbrutal_Rawr Жыл бұрын
@@aloysiusdevadanderabercrombie8 It's virtually ubiquotous, but most noticeable in modern RP English as well as Irish English which contrasts aspirated alveolar and non-aspirated dental T, the former being affricated, and the latter being their pronunciation of the voiceless TH as in _think._ The most well-known accent where it isn't affricated is Italian-American English along with the older New York (Manhattan) accents; as well as Indian English.
@aloysiusdevadanderabercrombie8
@aloysiusdevadanderabercrombie8 Жыл бұрын
@@Unbrutal_Rawr Interesting. I don't think it's affricated in General American though, no? At least, mine isn't affricated (though I speak Californian English) and it's not noticeably affricated in most speakers I interact with outside those with a stronger Asian-American accent.
@Unbrutal_Rawr
@Unbrutal_Rawr Жыл бұрын
@@aloysiusdevadanderabercrombie8 It's not noticeably affricated to most English speakers because some degree of affrication is a baseline for it in English, necessiated by the place and manner of its articulation. To speakers of languages where /t/ is dental, it sounds halfway like /tʃ/. The farther back you go the more affricated it becomes because it's laminal (articulated with the blade, not the tip). Listen to the way Indians approximate it - using the tip, and likely even further back than in RP, being retroflex. That's the articulation you need to avoid affrication completely. That or it being dental-apical as in Italian(-American). Another language where /t/ is heavily affricated is Danish - which is part of what makes it sound like very drunken English with the German R.
@joshyam4026
@joshyam4026 11 ай бұрын
初級から中級に移行する時に、書き言葉に残る文語の表現を理解することは大事ですが、このビデオではその音声的な面が簡潔に解説されていて、秀逸だと思います。
@yesid17
@yesid17 Жыл бұрын
great video as always, keep up the great work!
@urinstein1864
@urinstein1864 Жыл бұрын
No frickin' way! I basically asked for this exact video (implicitly) a while ago on one of your videos and you did not disappoint one bit. Super dense and super interesting, thank you so much!
@m.s.5370
@m.s.5370 Жыл бұрын
This was fascinating, also I'm really happy with myself for being able to read/understand almost every instance of (modern) Japanese used in the video. Thanks!
@gruu
@gruu Жыл бұрын
Been looking a video like this for a long time, finally! Really great stuff dude
@user-ec2rc3lr7v
@user-ec2rc3lr7v Жыл бұрын
Beautifully done and appreciated! ありがとうございます。
@danmch7325
@danmch7325 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, this is exactly the type of content I was looking for considering Japanese language history!!! 😍
@BloxyMelonio
@BloxyMelonio Жыл бұрын
oo i’ve been waiting for a video like this on japanese. i’m not too confused on why, but am confused on how to use the sound changes 😂 it’s interesting to see why and how though! i really love the history of languages, especially around asia. your videos are great.
@ManicEightBall
@ManicEightBall Жыл бұрын
Great video, very thorough
@faymelp826
@faymelp826 Жыл бұрын
This is perfect timing for this video to release, I’m currently doing an essay on this exact topic! This helped a lot, so thanks!
@appleoxide4489
@appleoxide4489 Жыл бұрын
didn't know how much i needed this video
@jannepeltonen2036
@jannepeltonen2036 11 ай бұрын
This was super interesting and also I would've watched a video twice as long with you speaking at a normal speed and keeping the slides there for more than a blink of an eye :D Should probably watch this at half speed :D
@user-nr8iw6yt9p
@user-nr8iw6yt9p Жыл бұрын
時間があれば日本語のアクセント変遷を解説して頂きたい
@DaniParducci
@DaniParducci Жыл бұрын
I just found your channel and binged watched all your videos. Thank you for sharing all of these information in such an entertaining way!
@carloshernandez8150
@carloshernandez8150 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Following for one of the smoothest add transitions I’ve experienced. Linus lvl transition
@LinguaPhiliax
@LinguaPhiliax 9 ай бұрын
This is very helpful - thank you.
@highchamp1
@highchamp1 Жыл бұрын
Impressive research!
@dalubwikaan161
@dalubwikaan161 Жыл бұрын
I like the history. Thank you for the video
@mrlaughgas
@mrlaughgas Жыл бұрын
I liked the amount of detail you put in this video. Although it seems to move quite quickly. Just my observation, but i will need to re watch and pause many times to fully digest the amount of information you put into this.
@HBon111
@HBon111 Жыл бұрын
Very comprehensive!
@dariamancini963
@dariamancini963 11 ай бұрын
Your sponsorship introduction was A+😁
@NS-kq8bs
@NS-kq8bs Жыл бұрын
That transition to your sponsor was smooth as butter!😁
@impendio
@impendio 10 ай бұрын
Such a good video, as someone both learning japanese and a world history fan this one is a gem. Will have to rewatch it a couple of times at lower speed tho, too much to process!
@impendio
@impendio 2 ай бұрын
I’ve since rewatched it several times, still too much information to process.
@faizyroombaunit908
@faizyroombaunit908 Жыл бұрын
I've always had a mild fascination with the history of Japanese, but I rarely find time to dig for good resources on the phonetic details, despite having interest. (KInd of unrelated, but I also briefly had an interest in Old Japanese / 文語). So this was really helpful.
@RhetoricalLyric
@RhetoricalLyric Жыл бұрын
yesss was waiting for this
@flaviospadavecchia5126
@flaviospadavecchia5126 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! Would have been interested to also know how the pitch system has evolved throughout the centuries
@cristianortiz5479
@cristianortiz5479 Жыл бұрын
Something quite similar to the aspiration and latter lost of the Japanese /f/ took place in Spanish as well almost by the same period of time (around 1500) at the beggining of words, for example /farina/ or /ferida/ became /harina/ and /herida/, but the combination of /fu/ remained, like in /fuerte/. Japanese and Spanish vowel system is also quite similar, with the same 5 vowles...perhaps with a slightly different /u/
@bigscarysteve
@bigscarysteve Жыл бұрын
The /u/ is definitely different. I understand how to make the Japanese u, but I can't actually do it correctly. Whenever I try it in front of native Japanese speakers, they always burst out in laughter.
@gtc239
@gtc239 Жыл бұрын
@@bigscarysteve The /u/ in Japanese is with the lips compressed rather than protruded, so in IPA they're described as /ɯᵝ/.
@dl1083
@dl1083 Жыл бұрын
@@bigscarysteve As @GTC2 said, the Japanese 'u' is compressed, so don't stick your lips out like a duckface
@oschits-sentai2127
@oschits-sentai2127 Жыл бұрын
/ɯ̟ᵝ/
@NeonRabies
@NeonRabies Жыл бұрын
Jesus that's a lot of information in short space of time. Well done! Dense and informative.
@johngodbey2365
@johngodbey2365 Жыл бұрын
I liked the content, but man, it was at a super speed. The speaker should say "proNUNciation" not proNOUNCEiaton, which I admit is a pet peeve. As a student of Japanese, I really would like to see some interesting examples of sentences with native speakers showing how it sounded. I gave the video a Like because it was a brave attempt to explain an ancient language. English only has old, middle, and modern. Japanese has been around at least three times longer.
@definitelynotshanque
@definitelynotshanque Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, I've never heard of those dutch influence so this is a first.
@kekroneplay4014
@kekroneplay4014 Жыл бұрын
Oh my God, I was literally looking for anything like this a few hours ago. And then I fins this masterpiece
@AppleNoteAnimation
@AppleNoteAnimation Жыл бұрын
that plugin was smoother than my brain(very smooth)
@mariiris1403
@mariiris1403 Жыл бұрын
This is very interesting! 👏👍 Would you please consider slowing down your speech, while making these kinds of videoes? And when you show texts and images, pause a little here and there, to let people digest the content a bit?
@lotgc
@lotgc Жыл бұрын
Ooh how fun! Could you do Korean sometime in the future? I think that would be awesome
@doctuspullus
@doctuspullus Жыл бұрын
Loved the video! I was wondering, could you share the sources, please? Not trying to be skeptical, I'd just like to read more about it! Or, if anyone in the comments has any recommendation, that would be appreciated too!
@hienmai705
@hienmai705 11 ай бұрын
Cảm ơn bài nghiên cứu thú vị của bạn về tiếng Nhật trong lúc mà mình đang lười biến học nó. Bài nghiên cứu rất hay, tạo thêm cho mình sự hứng khởi để học tiếng Nhật tiếp 😁 日本語は難しいですが、面白いです。
@Oler-yx7xj
@Oler-yx7xj Жыл бұрын
I'm just starting to learn the language, but the history of the language is very interesting. I just got to これ/それ/あれ part and I thought: It looks like this part of language didn't change much since earliest times, how it can be that such frequently used words obey such consistent rules. And then I see ko2 and so2 at 2:05 and I like, yeah that was a good guess. IE languages would keep such consistency at best in spelling (like in wh-(qu-) questions, and Russian doesn't even have that). At the other side it's interesting to look at things that are similar to my mother tong (Russian), like u-unrounding, palatalization, short /i/ and /u/ drop and as I see from this video merger of dj and j. Language history is fascinating. P.S. And, yes, on /tu/ not being /tsu/ and pronounced /tʰˢu/ it was pretty funny. Also /ti/ sounded like palatalized Russian ти as well, wile the point was that it's not.
@khalilmekdachi7070
@khalilmekdachi7070 Жыл бұрын
great job. お疲れ様でした。
@ohwong102
@ohwong102 Жыл бұрын
Voiceover is like X10 speed and some slides (full of info) changes to the next in one second. Need to pause to watch numerous times. Choke-full useful information certainly!
@EduardQualls
@EduardQualls Жыл бұрын
Extremely well done. It may take a couple of replays to catch all the wealth of information presented. One thing, though, is that there is no word "pronounciation" in English. It's "pronunciation," with a change in vowel between noun and verb forms.
@deacudaniel1635
@deacudaniel1635 Жыл бұрын
That's some really interesting and rare content about historical evolution of Japanese.I think it would be awesome if you do a similar video about the historical evolution of Chinese next.
@vampyricon7026
@vampyricon7026 Жыл бұрын
Oh boy, now that's gonna be a project and a half. There is no good Proto-Trans-Himalayan reconstruction that exists, and Proto-Sinitic is still being hammered out. You might be able to do one from Middle Chinese to the various non-Min Sinitic languages, but there is honestly not enough data to do it well, imo. Add the possibility of Middle Chinese as traditionally defined may not even exist, and this would be a project worthy of several PhD theses.
@deacudaniel1635
@deacudaniel1635 Жыл бұрын
@@vampyricon7026 The main difficulty would be that Chinese is rather a language group than a single language, so the author of the video would either have to choose to track the evolution of one specific Sinitic language or dialect, or making an overview on the evolution of the whole Sinitic language group would still be good.
@user-bo7oi9dy7p
@user-bo7oi9dy7p 3 ай бұрын
Great video︎︎👍🏻
@tribble608
@tribble608 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video, super interesting! One thing: I'd really appreciate if there were breaks between ideas, just the span of a breath between sentences, because right now the video is hard to follow because all ideas are crammed together. Maybe you could also speak a bit slower. I would appreciate if the video was longer, but therefore easier to understand. As it is, if I want to follow along with what is said I have to pause every 3 seconds 😅 But I don't know how the algorithm works so if this speed is required, so be it^^
@ensnaredknight1178
@ensnaredknight1178 Жыл бұрын
That was the fastest video to sponsorship transition I've ever seen
@andriypredmyrskyy7791
@andriypredmyrskyy7791 Жыл бұрын
Hentaigana are really cool for calligraphy, shodou, where they provide multiple ways of writing the same text. It's pretty cool.
@exploshaun
@exploshaun 11 ай бұрын
The topic sounds so complicated so I am not surprised nobody makes videos on it.
@shinisan505
@shinisan505 6 ай бұрын
I would like to have more details about it! Do you have any reference? books or articles? I want to learn more about old japanese
@matzekatze7500
@matzekatze7500 11 ай бұрын
It's so crazy and interesting how languages evolve over time
@protondium_8927
@protondium_8927 Жыл бұрын
Hmm... for some reason this didn't show up in the subscribed tab. Can't believe I almost missed this!
@GobsAlmightyVlogs
@GobsAlmightyVlogs Жыл бұрын
loved this vid! very interesting to see how Japanese developed
@ruedigernassauer
@ruedigernassauer 9 ай бұрын
One interesting thing: For the relatively new found electricity the same one-syllable word is used in three Far Eastern countries: In Vietnam "điện", in China "diàn" and in Japan "den". And in Europe this is a five-syllable monster!! In Germany that word is sometimes circumvented by saying "Strom" (stream), but that word does not nail down the exact meaning.
@kaimichang
@kaimichang Жыл бұрын
The words ending with -ng in Hanbun (Chinese) were symbolized with う in Japanese, but they were pronounced as “-ŋ” until a consonant change occurred.
@japaneselessonsfrombasicsw375
@japaneselessonsfrombasicsw375 Жыл бұрын
it is nice introduction.
@martindrew3513
@martindrew3513 11 ай бұрын
I like your speaking style
@xij3505
@xij3505 Жыл бұрын
Uh oh this is going to make me try to learn Japanese again. I tried but gave up the two previous attempts but hey, maybe this time will be different
@Moses_VII
@Moses_VII Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video on Ryukyu languages.
@lahusa_
@lahusa_ 4 ай бұрын
This was eye-opening
@cheerful_crop_circle
@cheerful_crop_circle 4 ай бұрын
I can feel the passive racism from your comment
@_WhyIsEveryHandleTaken.
@_WhyIsEveryHandleTaken. Ай бұрын
@@cheerful_crop_circle何?! I don't get it
@cheerful_crop_circle
@cheerful_crop_circle Ай бұрын
@@_WhyIsEveryHandleTaken. He makes fun of Japanese people
@_WhyIsEveryHandleTaken.
@_WhyIsEveryHandleTaken. Ай бұрын
@@cheerful_crop_circle could you explain it in more detail please?
@cheerful_crop_circle
@cheerful_crop_circle Ай бұрын
@@_WhyIsEveryHandleTaken. You have to guess yourself.
@nicholazburkinton3856
@nicholazburkinton3856 Жыл бұрын
Can i have the resources and citation for this video pls, I’d like to read into it. :3
@15_heidune72
@15_heidune72 Жыл бұрын
I think some of the older kana might've been useful for modern loan words.
@Yan_Alkovic
@Yan_Alkovic Жыл бұрын
Classical/Old Japanese is generally not talked about enough. Which is a huge shame, it really deserves it!
@hyun-shik7327
@hyun-shik7327 Жыл бұрын
So when did the dialect spoken by the imperial court deviate from the general language? Like the kind Hirohito gave the surrender speech in.
@Syldoriel
@Syldoriel Жыл бұрын
Cool video. I just don't understand why you're going so fast. Especially about important/interesting topics.
@learnurduwithsara1068
@learnurduwithsara1068 Жыл бұрын
haven't seen such a comprehensive vidoe about Japanese language so far.
@namesurname7332
@namesurname7332 11 ай бұрын
It was painful to watch and took me around 30 minutes to finish, thank you, quite educational, now some things start to make sense anew in Japanese
@Ladiesman-iw9gc
@Ladiesman-iw9gc Жыл бұрын
this was great, would love a similar video for chinese
@maziicek
@maziicek Жыл бұрын
Make a video about Czech and Slovak
@Emot10ns
@Emot10ns 9 ай бұрын
You should do a speculation video on how Japanese may evolve in the future. I think the sound ふ fu could disappear and officially become hu, as h eventually took over that whole line originally from a p sound. I would assume some particles like は を will change to get rid of the sound difference of ha/wa and o/wo. And I assume there will be more Western influence, as we see in current slang like words like the ending -なう, which means to be doing something "now." We also could see the い sound dropped from i-adjectives, as many people nowadays do.
@gtc239
@gtc239 7 ай бұрын
Wait, why do people drop the -i in the i adjective?
@msruag
@msruag Жыл бұрын
"safe and secure, just like your internet connection will be if yo-" *aggressively skips 1 minute*
@danieljoybaguio7975
@danieljoybaguio7975 Жыл бұрын
One thing you forgot to mention is that along with the adjectival suffix ~ki becoming ~i, adverbial suffix ~ku became ~u for a short period of time; and then if it follows ~a~ then it becomes contracted to ~ou, e.g. arigataku - arigatau - arigatou. (omedetou and ohayou also originated from these contractions.) But later on the adverbial ~u reverted back to ~ku as we know today.
@shinisan505
@shinisan505 6 ай бұрын
in which period was that? do you have a source that explains that, like a book maybe?
@lovestarlightgiver2402
@lovestarlightgiver2402 Жыл бұрын
During the Meiji era, some Japanese people wanted to replace Japanese kana with Romaji (Nihon-shiki), to make writing easier.
@skulibaumgardner242
@skulibaumgardner242 11 күн бұрын
The we kana looks so cool I wish it was still in use commonly
@ssengageisop3952
@ssengageisop3952 Жыл бұрын
Neat video
@user-ow2rd9wc9s
@user-ow2rd9wc9s Жыл бұрын
Mind doing a video on Okinawan and how that evolved?
@coolbrotherf127
@coolbrotherf127 11 ай бұрын
That sounds difficult. Can't imagine there's much information about that.
@tovarishcheleonora8542
@tovarishcheleonora8542 11 ай бұрын
Or how about Tsugaru-ben? That would be interesting too.
@win_ini
@win_ini 11 ай бұрын
i find the fact that the whole sponsor segment is just written as "(Sponsor segment)" in the captions really based.
@SarahCarrico
@SarahCarrico Жыл бұрын
本当面白いでも... I found myself really wanting to simmer on pretty much everything.. You're just too darn fast. Could you post a slower version! ❤️
@ichiroakuma7311
@ichiroakuma7311 Жыл бұрын
It helps a lot if you set playback speed to 0.75
@ghlscitel6714
@ghlscitel6714 Жыл бұрын
That was fast! 1500 years in not even 12 minutes.
@Zejgar
@Zejgar Жыл бұрын
Thank you for talking about old Japanese! I have a question about the Higarana/Katakana tables. The modern depictions of these tables use latin letters to represent the row and column headers, but this does not feel right to me, why would an alphabet of a language use another language as a guide? So my question is, how were these tables depicted and taught before the latin letters were used to denote the rows and coumns?
@user-qd3rz7fb1t
@user-qd3rz7fb1t Жыл бұрын
I believe originally it was based on Sanskrit, but I may be wrong. Important to note, Sanskrit is also a syllabary script
@StarDArashi
@StarDArashi Жыл бұрын
​@@user-qd3rz7fb1t interesting gotta look that up!
@myspleenisbursting4825
@myspleenisbursting4825 11 ай бұрын
​@@user-qd3rz7fb1t no, Brahmic scripts are abugidas. Not syllabaries.
@kayrius
@kayrius Жыл бұрын
pls, add spaces between words in the next spell reform!
@IroquoisPliskin42
@IroquoisPliskin42 11 ай бұрын
9:52 OH MY GOD IT'S THE NASALIZED G EXPLANATION I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR A GOOD EXPLANATION FOR THIS FOR ACTUAL YEARS
@darkblade4340
@darkblade4340 6 ай бұрын
So the w glide was only used after the velar plosives k and g?
@AthanasiosJapan
@AthanasiosJapan Жыл бұрын
I am searching about the order of letters of Hiragana and Katakana. It seems to me that their order has been influenced by Sanskrit. I haven't found anything solid to prove it, so any clue would be helpful.
@Xnoob545
@Xnoob545 9 ай бұрын
6:46 "These obsolete varients are collectively known as Hentaigana!" (with happy cheerful tone)
@apotheosis1660
@apotheosis1660 Жыл бұрын
I really want to know how to specifically pronounce the 3 old vowels ï, ë and ö Does your mouth have to be more flat?
@YoureNowOnTV
@YoureNowOnTV 6 ай бұрын
Thank god for the pause and skip back functions of KZbin 😳
@32bob69
@32bob69 Жыл бұрын
Cool video I enjoyed, but I have some minor criticisms. I'm not sure if this is just your pronunciation but at 5:47 the "る/らる" r's were pronounced very harsh, not as they are pronounced in Japanese. They are a lot "softer" for a lack of a better word. Also, this might just be me but I think you should take a sec to breath for a few moments especially when u cover the screen with text, I'd like a moment to be able to read it all instead of just seeing it and it then being gone. Just my thoughts though, carry on
@klimentmilanov
@klimentmilanov 11 ай бұрын
I kinda agree, the pronunciations in the video made me question the credibility of the channel and actually confused me sometimes in my understanding of what was going on
@2boysyou2be
@2boysyou2be 15 күн бұрын
Is this weathering process of pronunciation responsible for the vast number on homophones in Japanese?
@Somebodyherefornow
@Somebodyherefornow Жыл бұрын
is there like a full japanese chart of syllables with IPA sounds?
@alyanahzoe
@alyanahzoe Ай бұрын
there is one on wikipedia.
@pressxfor7219
@pressxfor7219 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think I’ve ever heard those words before (at 7:57). I don’t know what they are or how to spell them. Edit: the first one is affricate. Idk about the second one.
@johnny-yw8ob
@johnny-yw8ob Жыл бұрын
affricatize/affricatise and palatalized/palatalised
@PhantomKING113
@PhantomKING113 11 ай бұрын
Ok, correct me if I'm wrong, but... for what I've heard, in some places of Japan zu and dzu (and ji and dzi) are still distinguished. Is this right? Also, o and wo are occasionally distinguished, specially in songs and stuff. This isn't reliable, but it's definitely a tendency. Also, words ending in -ou are sometimes pronounces as "-owo/-owʌ" when singers need to fit two syllables there, which I find kinda fun. This was a very informative video! Although the way it ends seems to imply that only 2000 to 3000 kanji exist, which isn't true at all, as those are just the basic ones; it also seems to imply that hentaigana are dead which... fair enough, mostly yeah, and that man'yogana is dead entirely, which thousands of sushi restaurants around the world would disagree with (in the context of words like sushi, these spellings are called ateji; ateji are pretty absurd).
@spaghettiking653
@spaghettiking653 Жыл бұрын
2:05 What is the "V" supposed to represent in the "degree" row? 3:00 I don't think it can be right that man'yogana were used only for sound, because in the example "hakuhi no umi", the 波久比 kanji should indicate "hakuhi", 能 (modern reading nou) the "no", leaving 海 to mean "umi", which is not a Chinese word, nor is it spelled phonetically using man'yogana. This looks like ideographic usage to me. 5:10 So... how did the Japanese speak without particles? Were they just not in use before they were invented in this period, or did they use some other system to denote what means what in a sentence?
@gtc239
@gtc239 Жыл бұрын
Uppercase V is used to represent any vowel.
@chciken
@chciken Жыл бұрын
Handakuten can be used with か btw
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