History of the Nilo-Saharan Languages

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Costas Melas

Costas Melas

2 жыл бұрын

History of the Nilo-Saharan Languages, Proto-NiloSaharan, Komuz, Proto-Sudanic, Kuliak, Central Sudanic, Northern Sudanic, Berta,Kunama,Proto-SaharoSahelian, Kadu, Maban, Fur, Kadu, Songhai, Saharan, Taman, Nara, Nubian, Meroitic, Surmic, Nilotic, Nyimang, Daju, Eastern Jebel, Temein
Music:
Somnia I - Reed Mathis
Heavy Heart - Kevin MacLeod
Ether Real - Density & Time
"Heavy Heart" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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@CraftDayFriends
@CraftDayFriends 2 жыл бұрын
yet another language family done. can't wait for the History of the World Languages in a couple of years
@moorishsociety7339
@moorishsociety7339 2 жыл бұрын
The owner of this channel is a racist. He is trying to disclude ancient Egyptian from the Niolothic cultural continuum. According to him, This artificial aswan dam is a barrier between Egyptians and Nioltes. Lmao
@itsjohnnyfox
@itsjohnnyfox 2 жыл бұрын
@@moorishsociety7339 this is NOT racism, dude. The racism is the discrimination of the race/s and excluding Afro-Asiatic ancient Egyptians from Nilotes is NOT discrimination of the race
@moorishsociety7339
@moorishsociety7339 2 жыл бұрын
@@itsjohnnyfox Yes it's a pure racism emerged from that racist 19th century Euro-centrist scholarship (which used to have a stronghold in the Western scientific curriculum)
@danilapolesciuk4316
@danilapolesciuk4316 2 жыл бұрын
@@moorishsociety7339 lol I wanna get the drugs your smoking
@ASMM1981EGY
@ASMM1981EGY 2 жыл бұрын
@@moorishsociety7339 Don't speak for myself instead of me. My mother tongue the Egyptian Language is a Hamitic North African language which is totally different from Nilotic languages
@idkman858
@idkman858 2 жыл бұрын
The first African language vid on this channel, if I’m not mistaken 👍
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Yes :)
@xXxSkyViperxXx
@xXxSkyViperxXx 2 жыл бұрын
hmm couldve sworn there mustve been a video before about afro-asiatic languages. hmm mustve been another channel
@idkman858
@idkman858 2 жыл бұрын
@@xXxSkyViperxXx I mean he did make a vid on the Semitic languages
@moorishsociety7339
@moorishsociety7339 2 жыл бұрын
All languages came from Africa.
@idkman858
@idkman858 2 жыл бұрын
@@moorishsociety7339 fair point
@viiizzaalishvili9967
@viiizzaalishvili9967 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats to central sudanic for surviving 7021 years
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
It is a branch. It has been splitted into more 60 languages during the last millennia
@haulawcoast
@haulawcoast Жыл бұрын
It is 9021, actually)
@thearcanamodernau8130
@thearcanamodernau8130 5 ай бұрын
It has also probably changed so much in the course of the millenia that it's nothing like it was back then, more or less like a native english speaker wouldn't understand proto germanic
@avantelvsitania3359
@avantelvsitania3359 2 жыл бұрын
This is amazing! I had no idea the Nilo-Saharan languages were so old, especially Gumuz, Berta or Kunama. Truly relics of Mankind. Thank you, this is the content we need. Carry on!
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@satanshameer690
@satanshameer690 2 жыл бұрын
Everything in Africa is pretty old
@p00bix
@p00bix 2 жыл бұрын
It should be noted that the Nilo-Saharan theory is not very well supported. It originated in an attempt to classify all of the non-Afro-Asiatic and Niger-Congo languages of Northern Africa into a single supergroup, back when our understanding of African languages as a whole was very poor and linguists like Joseph Greenberg were working to lay the bedrock of African Comparative Linguistics. But while more and more evidence for the validity of Niger-Congo and Afro-Asiatic have emerged over the decades since their original proposal, Nilo-Saharan has if anything become *less* and less likely the more we learn about those languages. Similarities between its supposed subfamilies probably have more to do with language contact over millennia rather than a genuine common origin, and while most of the subfamilies within Nilo-Saharan are definitely their own language families (ex. Nilotic), they probably don't all belong to a single super-family. Costas Melas is presenting the theory as it is best understood by the linguists who continue to believe it, but the Nilo-Saharan theory itself is controversial bordering on fringe.
@mahamatmahamatabdoulaye893
@mahamatmahamatabdoulaye893 Жыл бұрын
@@p00bix you are absolutely right. I am Chadian and my mother tongue is Dazaga, a Saharan language and there are not many similarities between my language and the other so-called Nilo-Saharan languages
@soa9174
@soa9174 Жыл бұрын
@@mahamatmahamatabdoulaye893 dazaga and tedaga have similarities with Kanuri languages, beri( zaghawa language) and songhay languages, who many linguists perceive like a detached group of Saharan languages.
@Alsayid
@Alsayid Жыл бұрын
I didn't know Nubian diminished so recently. Basically, the Arabic speaking area of Sudan was Nubian speaking a few hundred years ago.
@user-wb6zk3oh7g
@user-wb6zk3oh7g 6 ай бұрын
Nubians in Sudan still speak nubian till this day, north of Sudan
@fyanle1382
@fyanle1382 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, its sad to see our languages dying due to globalization, first from the spread of Islam and now with usage of lingua francas like English 😭😔
@monkeypie8701
@monkeypie8701 2 жыл бұрын
and bantu
@monkeypie8701
@monkeypie8701 2 жыл бұрын
By the time English takes over it will have split into different languages itself
@user-xr2jt7ss4o
@user-xr2jt7ss4o 2 жыл бұрын
Islam is not a problem
@user-xh7wg6yn5o
@user-xh7wg6yn5o 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-xr2jt7ss4o hahah it actually is
@user-xr2jt7ss4o
@user-xr2jt7ss4o 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-xh7wg6yn5o For you sickly mind
@imienazwisko6527
@imienazwisko6527 2 жыл бұрын
Great work on all your language videos Cant wait for more
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@user-mv7xi1ey4z
@user-mv7xi1ey4z 2 жыл бұрын
Make about Berber, Cushitic and other Afroasiatic languages
@yacin5590
@yacin5590 Жыл бұрын
It's done
@tristansoendergaard7867
@tristansoendergaard7867 2 жыл бұрын
Noice! I barely knew anything about this family before i saw this video! Great work Costas Melas!
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@dionadair8195
@dionadair8195 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I have been waiting for this.
@kenanhasan9784
@kenanhasan9784 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always.
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@LearnKuCode
@LearnKuCode 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a nilot, this is awesome. One of those tiny pixels are my ancestors ☺️
@yacin5590
@yacin5590 Жыл бұрын
You're from South Sudan ?
@LearnKuCode
@LearnKuCode Жыл бұрын
@@yacin5590 I'm from Kenya. Kalenjin
@yacin5590
@yacin5590 Жыл бұрын
@@LearnKuCode and what means kalenjin ?
@LearnKuCode
@LearnKuCode Жыл бұрын
@@yacin5590 its a Nilotic group of tribes. *Distant cousins with tribes from sudan
@dats65
@dats65 2 жыл бұрын
Since 8700 BC? Wow
@badecnamor
@badecnamor 2 жыл бұрын
love your work!!!
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@deacudaniel1635
@deacudaniel1635 2 жыл бұрын
I love your language history mapping videos.I'm still waiting for a video about Sino-Tibetan languages from you.Others already did it but I'm very curious to see your version on that.
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@bvthebalkananarchistmapper5642
@bvthebalkananarchistmapper5642 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video as always. And for me, a great learning experience even when compared to your other language videos, as, of the 5 traditional (and now mostly outdated) African language families, I think Nilo-Saharan is probably the one I'm least familiar with.
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@Zeyede_Siyum
@Zeyede_Siyum 2 жыл бұрын
*This is good. I hope you will make more African languages video*
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@oitubeman1019
@oitubeman1019 2 жыл бұрын
The distribution of nilo-saharan follows ancient rivers in the sahara which are now long gone.
@nicocola284
@nicocola284 2 жыл бұрын
Wow really
@moorishsociety7339
@moorishsociety7339 2 жыл бұрын
It used to reach all the way up to Mediterranean along the Nile.
@ASMM1981EGY
@ASMM1981EGY 2 жыл бұрын
@@moorishsociety7339 the Egyptian Language is a Hamitic North African language that was created and started like all Hamitic-Semitic language branch in North Africa. Human migrations started from Africa and no major replacement reverse migrations have taken place towards North African from Asia. Nilotic languages are just one of many African languages families and they didn't enter North Africa, Hamitic-Semitic language branch started in North Africa and spread to West Asia not the other way around, the Nilotic languages never reached the Mediterranean and never entered North Africa because the Egyptian Language is already based and created in North Africa
@joalvarado8506
@joalvarado8506 2 ай бұрын
@@ASMM1981EGYNone of the scientific literature published after the 1960s places the Afro-Asiatic Urheimat in North Africa. Its spread is linked to haplogroup E-M215 and its E-M35 subclade and both of these haplogroups, along with the language family if you read updated science, originated in East Africa. This would account for the Nilo-Saharan loanwords foundational to the Egyptian language and the Amazigh loanwords seen in northern Nubian languages.
@ASMM1981EGY
@ASMM1981EGY 2 ай бұрын
@@joalvarado8506 You speak misleading expressions that you understand nothing about. Nilotic-Saharans as an ethnolinguistic group is older than the Hamito-Semitic, when Cushitic (South Hamitic) and Ethiosemitics originated in the Horn of Africa, the North Hamitics (Amazigh & Egyptians) populated North Africa where they settled and originated as the North Hamitic branch of this family. I'm a Genetic Anthropologist who lives in 2024 i ZILLIONS of times more aware of my field and specialisation more than you.
@hamzehshashaa2659
@hamzehshashaa2659 2 жыл бұрын
Another great research bravo costas👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Tony-zh1kz
@Tony-zh1kz 2 жыл бұрын
Not what i expected, but it is sure granted! Good job!
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@PAGoldenglovechamp06
@PAGoldenglovechamp06 2 жыл бұрын
I was reading a genetic study that shows west African nilo Saharan and Afro asiatic speakers are now linked through haplogroup e-v38 after combining E1B1A and a Ethiopian haplogroup. Suggesting that west Africans descend from East Africans. Your map here kind of suggest that as well. Fascinating stuff.
@jejeaye7021
@jejeaye7021 Жыл бұрын
E-M2 or e-v38 is a western African haplogroup,even if it originate in Ethiopia the same goes to e1b1b which is a North African haplogroup, majority of jilotes are A and B not E ,get it .
@PAGoldenglovechamp06
@PAGoldenglovechamp06 Жыл бұрын
@@jejeaye7021 you saying all that and nothing I said was wrong
@NileValleyMade
@NileValleyMade Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard stories of WA immigrating from EA Senegalese(Gambia), Malians, North Benin and South Sudanese look very identical even the language barriers.
@joalvarado8506
@joalvarado8506 2 ай бұрын
@@jejeaye7021E1b1b or E-M215 is East African in origin. So is its E-M35 subclade. Both of these are linked to Afro-Asiatic speakers and have their highest frequencies in Somalia.
@joalvarado8506
@joalvarado8506 2 ай бұрын
Political stability in the Sahel and Sahara are needed to gain concrete archaeological data. The auroch may even have first been domesticated in the area by Nilo-Saharan speakers as all the main lactase persistence genes can be found in Africa.
@malismarma_5040
@malismarma_5040 2 жыл бұрын
Great video sir! I would be willing to help you with things such as research in order to make videos faster, because they are so good I can’t even wait for them! 😂 👍
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@magnahungaria8123
@magnahungaria8123 2 жыл бұрын
Great job👍
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@blu9700
@blu9700 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! interesting to see that Nilo-Saharan can be traced back to 9000 BCE as opposed to many other families not going further back than 2000 BCE!
@blu9700
@blu9700 2 жыл бұрын
@@regabrielexv Yea so this video is mostly speculative as non of this might have actually happend
@arta.xshaca
@arta.xshaca Жыл бұрын
@@blu9700 not "none of this", since that's like telling evolution never happened.
@joalvarado8506
@joalvarado8506 2 ай бұрын
Proto-Egyptian has a lot of Nilo-Saharan loanwords as well and Egyptian likely split off from the rest of Afro-Asiatic 10-8kya further proving just how old these two language families are.
@ASMM1981EGY
@ASMM1981EGY 2 ай бұрын
@@joalvarado8506 Archaic Egyptian doesn't contain Nilotic-Saharan loanwords, stop spitting nonsense in the field I'm specialised in. Egyptian is a North Hamitic North African language no splitting occured.
@joalvarado8506
@joalvarado8506 2 ай бұрын
@@ASMM1981EGY You’re not specialized in the field if you still use the word Hamitic as it hasn’t been part of linguistics in many decades for obvious reasons.
@celtofcanaanesurix2245
@celtofcanaanesurix2245 2 жыл бұрын
you need to do Bantu next, and maybe Sino-Tibetan or Berber after that
@teodoretarigan
@teodoretarigan 2 жыл бұрын
Good documentation video. Greeting from Southeast Asia.
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@charlietudju8238
@charlietudju8238 2 жыл бұрын
Very impressive, bravo !
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Awkci_gaming
@Awkci_gaming 2 жыл бұрын
This is very fortunate timing. I was creating an alternate history where the Nilo-Saharan peoples were an important player, and this video can give me a good insight in their hsitory.
@C1914
@C1914 2 жыл бұрын
Imma subscribe to see when it comes out
@elevatorisland
@elevatorisland 2 жыл бұрын
Watching history unfold in a map format makes all the difference. Brings it to life.
@user-kd8xu5wm5j
@user-kd8xu5wm5j 2 жыл бұрын
Маленький кусочек сонгайского на севере Сахары:я обязательно выживу
@Oppistan
@Oppistan 2 жыл бұрын
Ok
@Ftibor7
@Ftibor7 2 жыл бұрын
@@Oppistan This language is thousand and thousand more older than Russian language.
@edoughgeographic9247
@edoughgeographic9247 2 жыл бұрын
It's located in the south west of Algeria , it called Tabalbala living with local Zenete berber
@jubanumidia8460
@jubanumidia8460 2 жыл бұрын
@@edoughgeographic9247 I confirme that
@metehanbudak4254
@metehanbudak4254 2 жыл бұрын
Very beautiful video.
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@pas1994ok
@pas1994ok 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@EduNauta95
@EduNauta95 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is seriously singlehandedly RESHAPING my view on world history
@judsonwall8615
@judsonwall8615 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Great channel
@mitikutesfaye9062
@mitikutesfaye9062 Жыл бұрын
I am an anthropologist working on the Kunama, and this is fascinating....most of it overlaps with the oral history of the Kunama as told by them,
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@joacoolcipher
@joacoolcipher 2 жыл бұрын
good video, but can you do history of afro-asiatic languages since you did the first vid about african languages?
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I will try it in the next period
@thomash8079
@thomash8079 2 жыл бұрын
How do we even know when these languages developed and diverged, especially if they did so around 7000 BC
@celtofcanaanesurix2245
@celtofcanaanesurix2245 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of these are very non-specific estimations based off of the time it takes for certain grammatical and phonological features to develop plus taking into account the earliest evidence of each branch diverging
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
The Nilo-Saharan language family includes more than 100 language. Successive splits are so numerous that they go back the proto-language at least 10-12000 years ago, so the most remoted branches are estimated that had been splitted 8000-10000 years ago
@mikailm6934
@mikailm6934 2 жыл бұрын
@@CostasMelas i pretty much think that they were further north in southern Egypt, Sudan but were pushed southward by afro asiatic speakers and later arabs. Their phenotype show them to have evolved in a open semi desertic area, not a tropical one(hence their very darkskin, long limbs, very short hair, small eyes..)
@ASMM1981EGY
@ASMM1981EGY 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikailm6934 As a genetic anthropologist I can confidently say that what you're saying is the story flipped upside down, human migrations started from Africa and no major replacement reverse migrations have taken place towards North Africa from Asia. The Afro-Asiatic (Hamitic-Semitic) branch of languages spread from Africa to West Asia not the other way around as you assume. The Hamitic-Semitic branch started and were initiated and created in North Africa and then spread to West Asia. Nilotic, Niger and Bantu languages didn't enter North Africa to be replaced.
@mikailm6934
@mikailm6934 2 жыл бұрын
@@ASMM1981EGY you're right to some extend but i think not completly. Back and forth happened. Ancestral North Africans are the original haplogroup E carriers, their descendants are the iberomaurusians . Lastest genetic studies indeed show that the Natufian received their E from a population similar to them, they probably received a language ancestral to afro asiatic but it wasn't afro asiatic as we now today.Their african affinitiy decreased by mixing with eurasian women. After, this population expanded from southern Levant/Egypt to Sudan and the Horn where they mixed along the way with proto saharans/nilotes .Some others went to the Maghreb where their language erased the language ancestral to Afro asiatic(Berber is only 3-4k old) . In the Levant a lot of Caucasians/Iranian went to the Levant, adopted semitic languages and have propagated haplogroup J which isn't an original afroasiatic haplogroup
@willowrowley7830
@willowrowley7830 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@monkeypie8701
@monkeypie8701 2 жыл бұрын
ah this is great probably do another african one next Niger congo or Khoisan?
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Most likely is the Niger-Congo
@iamseamonkey6688
@iamseamonkey6688 2 жыл бұрын
@@redacted9280 yeah. it's literally just a cluster of isolates connected by nothing more than proximity and clicking.
@monkeypie8701
@monkeypie8701 2 жыл бұрын
@@redacted9280 could still display them seperately, it dosent have to begin with a single proto-language
@mahatmaniggandhi2898
@mahatmaniggandhi2898 2 жыл бұрын
@@iamseamonkey6688 they are split into 3 families tho, and there is a chance that sandawr from tanzania is related to one of these families
@limeliciousmapping4652
@limeliciousmapping4652 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy how old this language family is, that's rare
@schuylerweaver1876
@schuylerweaver1876 2 жыл бұрын
Do one for the history of the Costas Melas subscriber count.
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Good idea for the special 50,000 subs video :)
@TSGC16
@TSGC16 2 жыл бұрын
Could you do the Amazigh/Berber languages or Bantu languages next?
@TSGC16
@TSGC16 2 жыл бұрын
Or maybe just Afro-Asiatic languGes in general like youre Indo-European language video
@thelinguisticmahmoudasem8811
@thelinguisticmahmoudasem8811 2 жыл бұрын
Please make video about afro-asiatic language
@sepep6288
@sepep6288 2 жыл бұрын
It is amazing to see how the Nilotes were spread across the east Sahel prior to the bantu *expansion*
@listenup2882
@listenup2882 2 жыл бұрын
Invasions? Africans have been moving back and forth across the continent for millennia. Would you describe the movement of Nilo-Saharan or Cushitic speakers as invasions
@mahatmaniggandhi2898
@mahatmaniggandhi2898 2 жыл бұрын
@@listenup2882 bantu invasion is a real thing what are you talking about?
@sepep6288
@sepep6288 2 жыл бұрын
@@listenup2882 Yes i describe them as invasions
@Mimi-mq2wj
@Mimi-mq2wj 2 жыл бұрын
@@listenup2882 Bantu invasions are a thing lmao😂 expansions is another to say it as well
@moorishsociety7339
@moorishsociety7339 2 жыл бұрын
They were also in Egypt, he completely ignored.
@piyumalubayasiri2642
@piyumalubayasiri2642 2 жыл бұрын
Do video by language family(indo european, nilo saharan, sino tibetan, afro asiatic , northeast and noarthwest caucasian, altaic etc)
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
It is difficult, but i will try it in the future (a map with all the families)
@iamseamonkey6688
@iamseamonkey6688 2 жыл бұрын
altaic isn't actually a real family. it's been disproven because the evidence is too flimsy and never consistant. the only reason they look similar is because historically they had alot of contact with each other.
@HYDROCARBON_XD
@HYDROCARBON_XD Жыл бұрын
NWC and NEC is probably just NC,A single family since it's proto languages are very similar
@Lucas-zx9dr
@Lucas-zx9dr 2 жыл бұрын
Make a video about the language of korean/japanese family
@mahatmaniggandhi2898
@mahatmaniggandhi2898 2 жыл бұрын
great video as always :D, but the thing is that the validity of nilo-saharan as a family is controversial, but i think the modern branches here are all widely accepted
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. There is no consensus about the Nilo-Saharan family among the authors, but it remains the most popular view
@everettduncan7543
@everettduncan7543 6 күн бұрын
Except eastern Sudanic
@_Painted
@_Painted 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, but the map is missing the Tebu languages. Also Meriotic is unclassified but was likely Afro-Asiatic, though it could have even been an Afro-Asiatic/Nilo-Saharan hybrid language.
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. They are included in the Sahara branch. The video ends up in the main branches, not in individual languages that are more than 100
@_Painted
@_Painted 2 жыл бұрын
@@CostasMelas Oh, ok. I thought the Tebu extend further north and east than the video shows, but maybe the other maps I saw were including larger regions the Tebu only rarely use.
@qaz1001
@qaz1001 2 жыл бұрын
Kevin MacLeod is a legend
@QwertyQwerty-bf9tt
@QwertyQwerty-bf9tt 2 жыл бұрын
Please, make about Tocharian language
@xXxSkyViperxXx
@xXxSkyViperxXx 2 жыл бұрын
soon there will be a language mapping video of all the language families per continent and then there will be one for the world!!!
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Very ambitious but I would like to make it
@DesertsOfHighfleet
@DesertsOfHighfleet 2 жыл бұрын
@@CostasMelas yes it would be epic
@rykloog9578
@rykloog9578 Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how at the genesis of the Nilo-Saharan language family-8000bc-the Sahara desert was a lush savana
@danielescalantedemedeiros.
@danielescalantedemedeiros. 6 ай бұрын
It is impresive how Gumuz has its origins in a language born milenials before Indo-european family and it still remains
@papazataklaattiranimam
@papazataklaattiranimam 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: Nilotic speakers are the tallest, darkest and thinnest people in the world :)
@fyanle1382
@fyanle1382 2 жыл бұрын
Not all of them, I'm Nilotic and I'm 5'9 and brown, the same way not all Scandinavians are blonde
@BrutusAlbion
@BrutusAlbion 2 жыл бұрын
@@fyanle1382 That's actually still pretty tall for human average across the globe. It's just the few Northern European countries which have averages slightly above 6'.
@monkeypie8701
@monkeypie8701 2 жыл бұрын
so i just have to learn nilotic and then i'll be tall? no its the nilotic people that are tall, not the speakers
@nicolaseito5172
@nicolaseito5172 2 жыл бұрын
Not really the tallest people in the world are the people from the dinaric Alps
@hawaz4704
@hawaz4704 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicolaseito5172 Watch Drew Binsky’s video in South Sudan and make your decision
@campbellblock3061
@campbellblock3061 2 жыл бұрын
Saharan speakers must be real Chads
@alexanderplatypus3664
@alexanderplatypus3664 2 жыл бұрын
^ I see what you did there You sneaky rascal
@scoffedeee7381
@scoffedeee7381 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please do afro Asiatic thanks
@dr.h4769
@dr.h4769 2 жыл бұрын
You should do Cushitic language in southern Ethiopia and Somalia
@listenup2882
@listenup2882 2 жыл бұрын
Why restricted to those two countries. Cushitic languages are also spoken in Kenya and elsewhere.
@asocos
@asocos Жыл бұрын
I love your videos 😍
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@kevinthecat9704
@kevinthecat9704 8 ай бұрын
IMPORTANT NOTE: The Nilo-Saharan family has not been demonstrated and could be invalid. Not saying this video is bad, but just want to through this out for people. All branches you see at the end of the video are unanimously agreed to be valid, but no consescus has been reached for inter-family relationships, if they exist.
@renatocampos3114
@renatocampos3114 2 жыл бұрын
it must have been very difficult to make this video but i have some doubts I noticed that the last division of this family was 1400 BC, I doubt that this condition was stable for 3400 years, I believe that there were more divisions but it would be difficult to visualize these new divisions on the map. I noticed that a piece of the Songhai language was isolated for 1300 years in the very north between Morocco and Algeria and not , and remained as the Songhai language , with isolation causing linguistic divergence
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
The video ended up in the main subfamilies of the Nilo-Sahara family. These families have been divided into more than 100 languages over the last millennia
@lyonya_lutiy
@lyonya_lutiy 2 жыл бұрын
Cool
@kherstein9581
@kherstein9581 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do Berber languages next?
@scarymonster5541
@scarymonster5541 2 жыл бұрын
The berber language would be in afro asiatic
@kherstein9581
@kherstein9581 2 жыл бұрын
@@scarymonster5541 Yes but this channel does videos for subgroups. He did for semitic, and for all subgroups of Indo-European (Germanic, Romance, etc.). Also berber are many languages, not one.
@scarymonster5541
@scarymonster5541 2 жыл бұрын
@@kherstein9581 ok
@mikailm6934
@mikailm6934 2 жыл бұрын
It would be quite hard since modern berber languages are only 2000 years old due to a bottleneck around the time of the fall of Carthage. Languages in North Africa before that were more diverse
@ChristianSannino1904
@ChristianSannino1904 6 ай бұрын
8000 years of history, wow
@Tm_dkk
@Tm_dkk 4 ай бұрын
11 000*
@mrhexatron4226
@mrhexatron4226 2 жыл бұрын
Make a history of the nigero-congolese languages
@boopadoop2336
@boopadoop2336 2 жыл бұрын
I heard the music at 700 BC and already knew what was going to happen
@nicocola284
@nicocola284 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what was the small Songhai part remaining
@AlekThink
@AlekThink 2 жыл бұрын
Also half of them is in danger of extinction now
@Fallacia_Konstantinos
@Fallacia_Konstantinos 2 жыл бұрын
Are there Songhay language remnants till today on the Algero-Moroccan borders???
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, mainly in the area of the oasis Tabelbala
@manfredneumann4369
@manfredneumann4369 2 жыл бұрын
It's beautiful but what's about Tocharian ones
@QwertyQwerty-bf9tt
@QwertyQwerty-bf9tt 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@Qwerty-hy5mj
@Qwerty-hy5mj 2 жыл бұрын
@@QwertyQwerty-bf9tt I'm Qwerty too 😆
@csk4707
@csk4707 2 жыл бұрын
Tai-kadai languages Family pls
@cityrocker4450
@cityrocker4450 2 жыл бұрын
Do the same with languages in Latin America please!
@bossman4568
@bossman4568 Жыл бұрын
can u do afro asiatic all together
@user-bm5kj8qo3t
@user-bm5kj8qo3t 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Nigero Kongolian or Bantu next??
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Most likely Niger-Congo
@jaykaufman9782
@jaykaufman9782 Жыл бұрын
I have to admit I'm a little disappointed because I was so curious about the history of Old Nubian, Modern Nubian (Nubiin), and Meroitic. I'm fascinated by the histories of the kingdoms of Aloudia, Makouria, and Nobatia, and the Nubian diaspora after their conquest by invading Arabs. For example, the Luo/Luhya fled southwards and settled in modern Kenya; Barack Obama's father was a Luo. But none of this was represented on the maps, nor were other important languages such as Kalenjin, etc. Also I believe many modern Nubian-speakers fled northwards and are now native to Egypt, where they are one of only two remaining minorities, along with the indigenous Coptic Christians. Nevertheless, awesome, amazing work! As always!
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@abdelrahmanelbashir1184
@abdelrahmanelbashir1184 Жыл бұрын
Is meroetic Nilo-Saharan? I think it's more of a Cushistic language
@rainydaybats56
@rainydaybats56 2 жыл бұрын
What is that white gap in the middle?
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Kordofanian groups
@ameliarodriguez7667
@ameliarodriguez7667 2 жыл бұрын
FINALLY AN AFRICAN LANGUAGE FAMILY
@Medmuss
@Medmuss Жыл бұрын
Funny how you can see the borders of chad basically shows how it's so random and it's just made based on his opinion
@jubanumidia8460
@jubanumidia8460 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that you mentioned the isolated one in the west of Algeria, it's called Tabalbala
@TheDragoneire
@TheDragoneire 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's crazy. They speak korandje a songhai créole
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast 2 жыл бұрын
One Early Nilo-Saharan speaker to another: "What's with this weird music that's always playing in the background?" Other Nilo-Saharan speaker: "Who knows? If the gods want to play music, they play music. Who knows from gods? Let's get on with the hunt!"
@alexanderplatypus3664
@alexanderplatypus3664 2 жыл бұрын
lmao
@bluerose6658
@bluerose6658 2 жыл бұрын
Please make one with the Altaic language family.
@kevinthecat9704
@kevinthecat9704 8 ай бұрын
He made them already.
@masterdon3821
@masterdon3821 7 ай бұрын
Personally,I suport the view that Nilo-Saharan originated in southern Egypt and expanded south along the Nile
@masterdon3821
@masterdon3821 Жыл бұрын
I propose that Nilo-Saharan urheimat origin is in south Egypt
@greggegg8358
@greggegg8358 2 жыл бұрын
Are these languages or language branches?
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Language branches. They are splitted into more than 100 languages over the last millennia
@greggegg8358
@greggegg8358 2 жыл бұрын
@@CostasMelas yeah, I wasn't too sure. But then I would change the title into "History of the Nilo-Saharan language *branches* " to avoid confusion, same goes for the Indo-European one. But your videos are great work and I enjoy watching them
@iSyriux
@iSyriux 2 жыл бұрын
Afro-Asiatic is next I'm guessing
@scarymonster5541
@scarymonster5541 2 жыл бұрын
He said niger congo
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 2 жыл бұрын
Almost as big as Bantu yeah
@diegoragot655
@diegoragot655 2 жыл бұрын
Who were the first language family to live in the shores of The African aide of The Red Sea?? (from what I Saw from this video, the Nilo Saharans never did)
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Afroasiatic, mainly the Cushitic branch
@diegoragot655
@diegoragot655 2 жыл бұрын
@@CostasMelas and the Second?? (if You know at least)
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
@@diegoragot655 And Afroasiatic Omotic and unattested Paleo-Ethiopian languages related mayde with Shabo, Ongota etc.
@mikailm6934
@mikailm6934 2 жыл бұрын
@@CostasMelas no, nilo sahrans were present before. Modern day cushites are half dinka like, it shows they assimillated a lot of native nilo saharans in northern Sudan and along the red sea
@ASMM1981EGY
@ASMM1981EGY 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikailm6934 Bantu and Nilotics never entered North Africa. North Africa was always and still populated by Hamitic North Africans not Bantu or Nilotics
@alexqwert777
@alexqwert777 Жыл бұрын
8000 лет до н. э. не было письменности и каком языке говорили жители той или иной местности можно только предполагать.
@vasekcz
@vasekcz 2 жыл бұрын
Hello
@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns
@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns 2 жыл бұрын
For reference 3:34 When the only Indo-European language was still only Proto-Indo-European. (Edited: see below).
@HYDROCARBON_XD
@HYDROCARBON_XD Жыл бұрын
Indo-European goes before 4500 BC,At that time Anatolian had already split from PIE,probably at around 5500 BC
@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns
@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns Жыл бұрын
@@HYDROCARBON_XD Sure thing. I edited the timestamp. Thanks for the info.
@nicocola284
@nicocola284 2 жыл бұрын
When you got to the second millenium before christianity : ah finally modern days
@SKITNICA95
@SKITNICA95 2 жыл бұрын
Nilosaharans - highest people on the planet.
@satanshameer690
@satanshameer690 2 жыл бұрын
Is Nilo-Saharan a legitimate family?
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
There is no absolute consensus. Most authors accept the family, but in some cases exclude the Saharan, Songhai, Ethiopian border families etc. forming different families.
@listenup2882
@listenup2882 2 жыл бұрын
Is afroasiatic legitimate?
@satanshameer690
@satanshameer690 2 жыл бұрын
@@listenup2882 most likely
@davidmccarroll2280
@davidmccarroll2280 Жыл бұрын
Is Niger-Congo legitimate? Bantoid languages are but what about the rest
@satanshameer690
@satanshameer690 Жыл бұрын
@@davidmccarroll2280 it is more legitimate
@angramainyu335
@angramainyu335 2 жыл бұрын
Why they suddenly shrinked?
@Qwerty-hy5mj
@Qwerty-hy5mj 2 жыл бұрын
@Noah Pritchett Yes
@Qwerty-hy5mj
@Qwerty-hy5mj 2 жыл бұрын
@@regabrielexv No
@mahatmaniggandhi2898
@mahatmaniggandhi2898 2 жыл бұрын
@@regabrielexv very few speak these as s native language there , except maybe portuguese
@mikailm6934
@mikailm6934 2 жыл бұрын
@Noah Pritchett not really Bantu. Bantu speakers are farmers and were never interested in the Sahel or Sahara
@Qwerty-hy5mj
@Qwerty-hy5mj 2 жыл бұрын
@@regabrielexv+ there's little if any shrinking to see. You take screenshots of 1900 and 2000 and compare them, the shrinking mostly occurs in the region of Sudan which has engaged in the the genocidal Darfur campaign displacing and killing the peoples of the region, the Fur who are Nilotic.
@philippelarabe9394
@philippelarabe9394 2 жыл бұрын
Songhai people are not indigenous of Maghreb. They’re invader who settled Eastern Sahara (Nowday in Algeria) durring the expension of Songhai Empire (1500-1600’s).
@mikailm6934
@mikailm6934 2 жыл бұрын
They just came back, they are indigenous and what you call Maghreb has barely clear borders especially in the desert
@listenup2882
@listenup2882 2 жыл бұрын
I know the Arabs are invaders but Africans are indigenous.
@TheDragoneire
@TheDragoneire 2 жыл бұрын
The land belongs to the land. The Maghreb did not exist before. The black sub-Saharan peoples were indeed indigenous too north Africa during the green Sahara and even today. The Toubous ppl speak a Nilo-Saharan language and they are still here. And before them in Algeria when the Sahara The Mande people were indigenous to the region, as were the ancestors of the Soninke people. And many other peoples like the bodiviens a people probably nilo saharian ancestors of the haratins who once inhabited the tassili 10 000 years before jesus christ.
@alessandraleite677
@alessandraleite677 2 ай бұрын
Alguém em 2024
@roccovolpetti7363
@roccovolpetti7363 2 жыл бұрын
What Is that Little White circle they never spread to?
@CostasMelas
@CostasMelas 2 жыл бұрын
Niger-Congo Kordofanian languages
@jinengi
@jinengi 10 ай бұрын
The Nubian language replace by Arabic 🥹🥹😭😭
@scarymonster5541
@scarymonster5541 9 ай бұрын
Well it was the nubians who intermarried with the arabs
@aFreeAmazighPerson
@aFreeAmazighPerson 8 ай бұрын
I know the secret 😏, they stole our identity picturing the original arabs as whiter skinned, the enemy reads this, I assure you my brother, that we are the holders of this world, if we die it will lose it's balance and crumble, don't worry, our ancestors weren't dumb, take care
@AlekThink
@AlekThink 2 жыл бұрын
Africans: has different languages and culture Arabs and europeans: oh hey do u have a holy book? Take it! Can't read? Oh, ok, just learn our language. What is that? U have own government? Don't worry, we gonna *fix* that
@alangervasis
@alangervasis 2 жыл бұрын
Almost all the languages you saw in this video didn't have a writing system until the arrival of Europeans and Arabs. So educate yourself.
@scarymonster5541
@scarymonster5541 2 жыл бұрын
The africans have writing system but they never share with their neighbour
@scarymonster5541
@scarymonster5541 2 жыл бұрын
But for the non africans they share the writinf system
@geoDB.
@geoDB. 2 жыл бұрын
They don't have anything. They have never made anything
@scarymonster5541
@scarymonster5541 2 жыл бұрын
@@geoDB. how about nsibidi?
@samantha___
@samantha___ 5 ай бұрын
9:04 1bc or 1ad
@mrhexatron4226
@mrhexatron4226 2 жыл бұрын
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