Jesus Never Existed - Kenneth Humphreys

[@History-Valley]

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[@1stHuemanAmerican]

It's 16 😊 I did more digging 😊

would be nice to know what he thinks about Paul's letters, ie, whether they were genuine, when they were written, and to what extent they describe real events.

[@OCA8WhitePeopleAreAlbinosOCA8]

Albino u know it more then Ten 😁

[@OCA8WhitePeopleAreAlbinosOCA8]

Albino u wanna do my Hair

[@loslosmith]

They poisoned my mind and it did take me years but I’m happy to be free.

[@henriettegraham9230]

SO happy for you!!!

[@salvadoralba8207]

Me too

[@davidrichards2113]

Your mind has been poisoned by the “God of this World”, that is Satan.

[@ghosteyes2708]

Me too. Screw that mind poison.

[@GatochanBolivia]

if you call yourself free... what does that yin yang simbol means for you bro? :3 just asking. regards.

[@AriusOfAlexandria]

POINT 11: What the last pagan emperor thought: "It is, I think, expedient to set forth to all mankind the reasons by which I was convinced that the fabrication of the Christians is a fiction of men composed by wickedness. Though it has in it nothing divine, by making full use of that part of the soul which loves fable and is childish and foolish, it has induced men to believe that the monstrous tale is truth." (Julian)

[@ChessArmyCommander]

The problem is, God fundamentally understood, or the proposition, is by definition the very first principle. In classical western theism. And we find that its in the category of metaphysics definitionally, which means you cannot get rid of the principle. Not affirming the truth of "first principles" regarding the metaphysical or transcendental categories, crashes and burns philosophically. Because the principles pertain to the necessary preconditions of our existence AND for intelligibility generally. As identified in the history of philosophy and science! I'm not making any arbitrary claims. Then it follows from the metaphysical or transcendental necessity for God's existence, or that the very first principle is true, that God is working in mysterious way. The old cliche is right. And its obvious, all we have to do is look at the World. Right? And its clear that a creator God is being hidden and mysterious on purpose, and it would be for morally sufficient reasons. That follows necessary! Due to how God would be the "ground of all being" , to include for the intelligibility of the different concepts or principles in ethics. Or moral principles/facts.

[@Zerpentsa6598]

Using a 4th century person who was trying to revive paganism to dismiss the existence of Jesus is too lame to take seriously.

[@thomaswilson9284]

A 4th century person was closer to the truth than we are. Maybe he wasn't trying to revive paganism, maybe he was just calling a duck a duck.

[@wesbaumguardner8829]

Makes more sense than talking snakes and donkeys.

[@Yohannson]

If someone is on hallucinogens w Marijuana then talking snakes and donkeys makes perfect sense

[@wesbaumguardner8829]

@@Yohannson Either that or they are having a brain aneurism.

[@CharlesEllis-ph6ge]

If I recall that damn snake also was walking too. 😂😂😄🤣😂

[@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777]

because you saw it on jootube

[@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777]

@@Yohannson you keep speaking about your limited experience in the comments.

[@devinbraun1852]

Haven’t started watching yet, but just stoked to see something new w/Ken! Expect this to be a real treat to listen to.

[@jemborg]

Me too.

[@neilarmitage6632]

What I can't comprehend is why do so many humans have the need to worship things.

[@mindsoulpower]

ppl are weak, they need someone to hold tight to. spirituality is natural but they cant tell one from the other.

[@larryparker8677]

I believe they want another life after death. This is one way in their mnds to get this.

[@GatochanBolivia]

we were created that way, its simple :3 many think and believe they are not religious, but we all somehow believe in something as it were a fact, it heals our mind instead of THINKING about it for real... About worshipping well, we are a kind who loves to follow the herd, what we called society, so many of us are raised this way, at home, at school, and so on. We are trained to behave in a certain way in certain situations, we are tained animals :3 and thats why in shot BECAUSE MANY OF US BELIEVE AND WORSHIP THINGS LIKE "DEATH, THE SUN, SAINTS, VIRGINS, gods and so on..." regards.

[@RightOnBro72]

People want to try to explain the things they still don't understand. Imagine being born a long time ago, when nobody knew why the sun rose & set every day, let alone what the sun really was, or what causes natural phenomenon like rain & tornados. Somebody said it was "the gods" or the "Great Spirit," and the idea caught on so much that they started thinking they needed human sacrifices just to make it rain, or to prevent a volcano from erupting. Did it work? I don't think so. But people are still trying to find the answers.

[@TheMouse254]

It is been studied in psychology. Humans have a need to believe. Say you hear a noise in the bushes and your instincts tell you it is a leopard, you are safer believing it is than not and finding out it actually was. When a story is told that threatens your very existence and for eternity, you want to be safe.

[@DavidFraser007]

I'm a big fan of Kenneth Humphreys. Nice to see him again.

[@victorjordan4794]

Hell yeah 😍....Ken is the best

[@ghostriders_1]

No! Ken is funny & interesting but Dr. Richard Carrier PhD IS the best!

[@scottmcloughlin4371]

@@ghostriders_1 I bet Socrates, Plato and Aristotle never existed. Julius Caesar was probably just a statue. Augustus Caesar was another "Son of God," so he didn't exist either. Seneca? He was just a cartoon. Origen and Justin Martyr were likely comic book heroes. George Washington never existed either. The CIA just made up Washington and Jefferson like they made up the moon landing. Marilyn Monroe didn't really die of a barbiturate overdose, because she didn't really exist. Hollywood stars were just early lifelike animated AI bots created by Disney. What could be more obvious? You know, life is really just a hologram. I'm not sure we exist either. But popular book peddlers are real. Those book peddlers will say anything to idiots for money.

[@ghostriders_1]

@@scottmcloughlin4371 lightweight sarcasm is not evidence or argument. Some you mention did exist, some probably not. Your no comedian just an empty cynic. Time to grow up & show some real interest in the topic.

[@tamaracrowe29]

Very grateful for people who can see this (to me) obvious truth. People FREAK OUT when I tell them Jesus was not a real person. A man I was on a date with literally walked out of the restaurant we were in! 😂😂😂

[@stevenmorgan2932]

Haha! I just recently had a similar experience, so sadly, I can relate..

[@georgefernandez7558]

Well, you dodged a bullet then, well done! You should use that strategy as a kind of initial 'man suitability test' 👍👍👋

[@jimbobaggans1564]

I put a plastic sticker on the bumper of my car. It was a fish with legs with the name DARWIN under it.

[@mindsoulpower]

thank God he walked out...

[@TrojansFirst]

That's a good way to weed out the incompatible people.

[@thesheffinator7124]

I wasn't aware that Ken had been on your channel Jacob, but I'm so pleased that you have he's great to listen to and that was an excellent conversation. Thank you both.

[@hughhanson7419]

I remember sitting in church at 7 years old listening to the pastor and thinking "What a bunch of crap" I thought it was Hokum then now I know it is. Convoluted, contradictory fairy tales sound more ridiculous every time I hear them. It's amazing to me rational adults still believe this nonsense.

IKR? snakes talking to women? magic trees? Is that supposed to be serious?

[@TheDreamer1980]

Same, I went to Catholic schools, still not sure why my mum stopped going to church in her teens, my dad doesn't have any belief , anyway, I went to Catholic primary school, very early on it all felt wrong, even more so the older I got , confirmation etc, 1 big waste of time, I think jesus prob existed, I think there's a God/ creator but religion has nothing to do with either... If Christianity and jesus was such a threat to Satan/ dark energy, the churches would of been destroyed thousands of years ago... They remain cause the rulers of this world want them there, to bring revenue and keep people in life and distracted from what we really are

[@bennettd1275]

Rational adults don't believe it 😂

[@Zerpentsa6598]

Pastors are dangerous. Listen to a real Christian who knows Jesus.

[@bryanfinegan5252]

I never got any sensible answer out of any Christian (or even had an answer when I was a Christian!) about what was the point of Jesus anyway? Surely an all powerful god can just forgive sin himself (or indeed get rid of evil altogether) which makes the idea of Jesus somewhat redundant.

[@cristristam9054]

The god of the bible is not omni-potent and not omni-benevolent ,these attributes were given to him by theologians way later than the Old test ,and later even than the new test. The god of the bible is not omniscient either ,he finds out Adam and Eve ate the fruit after they do it and he has to search for them through the garden ,if he was omniscient he would know directly where to find them without searching. From the beginning of the story the first thing we learn if that god is not omni-potent ,takes him 6 days to make reality (instead of an instant) and than he has to REST. etc. You are making a strawmen argument asking them about an omnipotent god when the god of the bible is limited in potency. I am atheist also btw.

[@DrIT-qv1ek]

I guess this the reason why Islam does not need a middleman to reach God.

[@Rikastin]

From what I've learned, the atonement system somehow underlined the severity of breaking the relationship with God. If there's no sanction, then who cares. And death is quite a prominent penalty. First we had animals as substitute sacrifices, then, theologically speaking, the God-man himself. But it was not just for blood. Jesus was like, "now that I have your attention, be aware that the blood system sucks. God needs no more blood, He needs you to share his values. I need it. So no more strict rules but a decent spiritual moral. I offer you the guidelines, and my mercy covers the rest."

[@TrojansFirst]

@@DrIT-qv1ek I like the Sufi's because they don't seem to believe in a separate God. They experience being God themselves. Some of them get beheaded by Muslims for being heretical.

[@1120505]

The point that REALLY made me first question the Christian god was when I thought “why does god need a human blood sacrifice to forgive our sins? If he’s subject to that law, then that law is more powerful than god! And then who made that law? It never ends. Pure stupidity.

[@BigDGolf-23]

Interestingly, i never cared if "jesus" was real or not until people started threatening me with the bible.

[@KAT-dg6el]

All those loving Christians. Aren’t they wonderful. 😂

[@JohnHoulgate]

You were threatened by a Bible? I guess it would hurt if someone threw it at you. 😂😂😂

@@JohnHoulgate the whole point of the bible (both books) is to threaten peasants into submission.

[@helios2664]

No hate like Christian love.

[@OCA8WhitePeopleAreAlbinosOCA8]

I'm glad im n0t a CHRISTIAN just ignore there lies

[@babsbylow6869]

Thanks for posting this. I'd been beginning to wonder if Ken'd fallen off the face of the earth. Nice to see him in one piece still.

[@fepeerreview3150]

37:00 In fact we had dozens of gospels, with lots of uncertainty and conflict about which of them should be used. (Note I did not say which is historically accurate.) Until much later, when the 4 were settled on, Christians drew ideas and beliefs from all these dozens of gospels and the stories they told varied wildly. This is itself an argument against the accuracy of the 4 gospels. The people who chose those 4 were even farther removed in time from the alleged events than the people who wrote all the apocrypha. So they were in a worse position to determine which gospels were historically accurate (if any). For this reason I don't think historical accuracy was either their interest or their intention. I think their intention was more likely political, to narrow down and control the message with at least a moderate degree of consistency, so that they could bring cohesion to the various Christian communities, create a single community, and thereby control it better.

[@chazmorex]

That, or create the first "Industrial Complex".

[@darrellmarshall-uj2lc]

Thank you Kenneth. What a refreshing, highly entertaining and humorous exposition of human gullibility. The truth, indeed, shall set us free.

[@rebelcybran5850]

Christian zealots, never question everything that`s make them worst enemy of themselves.

[@zrobo]

I like how Ken isn't super focused on the scholarship. Usually this is a big turn off. He really points out some should-be-obvious things that I never really thought about.

[@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777]

what scholarship guy doesn't even know he was never named Jesus. That's a modern invention.

[@anthonycostine5067]

Kenneth is a treasure!

[@user-zo6dj1kk3v]

I saw a man walking on water. He was 100 feet off shore but turns out the water was only 1/2 inch deep. It was an illusion. This was south side of Lake Erie at a state park. I talked to him, he assured me he was not jesus, he gave me a beer. Nice guy. When a stranger gives you a beer when you're camping and you dont have a beer, well, that's worthy of praise, miracle or not. Cheers!

[@mh4zd]

And lo from his hands he did produce the wine of the grain, and they did partake and were filled with the spirit, and He said, "It is good," as they both ascended into the Heavens.

[@kenyattathompson6685]

@@mh4zdyou said my write like the inspired Nice try

[@mortyharenza9854]

I was age 14 at my Presbyterian Sunday class held in a side room. We did not go to the preaching services except for Xmas and Easter. We were listening to our instructor discuss Moses and the touching the rock to bring forth water. Moses tapped twice, I tapped out. Never looked back and never went back.

[@jamesowen4938]

You're lucky. I was stuck until I was 19.

[@Moodboard39]

boy u was young

I was into science as a tot. Never believed the religion thing for one second.

[@jimbob3030]

I didn't have a single point where I lost my faith, but all along as they told me things which made completely no sense I questioned everything and kept asking them questions they had no answers for. I left religion and left catholic school around the same age you did, but not for any one reason, because I could never believe all the nonsense they were trying to feed me all along and because they never had any acceptable answers to any of my questions.

[@Lizardkingmediaproductions]

I went to a born again from age 10-12, and they were psychos about the end times and demons, and everything being Satanic all the time. 30 years later, they livestream their services, and it’s the same Pastor and his entire family, just like the Righteous Gemstones TV Show. They’re balling with a rich lifestyle now, with a bunch of dumb and broke people in their pews. And they use this mindfuck that they’re blessed as evidence of their material blessings and the broke people in their pews aren’t good enough Christians since they’re not getting blessed by God. It’s really sad, and they should be taxed at 45%.

[@SCS-1964]

Always loved Kens outro on his videos "Its just more astounding rubbish from the new testament"

[@dawnemile7499]

This video greatly adds to the research that I have been doing for the past three years. I have a copy of the book that Josephus wrote.

[@PraveenKumar-dj1yg]

I am an atheist, been that way for the past 5 years, but boy does this make sense or what...

[@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777]

it fits right into your death cult mentality of being an atheist.

[@cassandra43113]

Rediculas.. Jesus did existed looked around

[@lutkedog1]

@@cassandra43113 Why defend Jesus with Garbel ?

[@newnoggin2]

​@@cassandra43113 Please invest in a dictionary.

[@johnholmesinchesahead342]

The future will be very warm.

[@stephenvanwoert2447]

A very thought-provoking conversation.

[@LittleImpaler]

This is the problem with the Historical Jesues. The evidence isn't there.

[@scottmcloughlin4371]

@@OrthoDavidSun I bet Socrates, Plato and Aristotle never existed. Julius Caesar was probably just a statue. Augustus Caesar was another "Son of God," so he didn't exist either. Seneca? He was just a cartoon. Origen and Justin Martyr were likely comic book heroes. Charlemagne too. He obviously never existed. George Washington never existed either. The CIA just made up Washington and Jefferson like they made up the moon landing. Marilyn Monroe didn't really die of a barbiturate overdose, because she didn't really exist. Hollywood stars were just early lifelike animated AI bots created by Disney. What could be more obvious? You know, life is really just a hologram. I'm not sure we exist either. But popular book peddlers are real. Those book peddlers will say anything to idiots to take their money.

[@BhaalSakh]

There is only fabricated evidence such as the shroud of Turin, that christians cling on to, unwilling to see the truth about the fabrication of their sick superstition. A supersition that makes them miserable, and yet unable to set themselves free from it.

[@1stHuemanAmerican]

Well CHRISTIANITY is dead good bye

[@haydenwalton2766]

the great thing about ignorance - you can free yourself from it terrific talk from ken

[@deepaknayak7686]

All of your problems will be solved in the afterlife ...A Son of Man is sitting on a white throne with power and authority ...

[@Brother_TD]

> 49:54 < Matthew 18:2-6

[@pbohearn]

This dude has such a comprehensive and incisive understanding of the Jesus story and gives a smashing critique of it on so many levels as to its origins, growth and maintenance in Western culture. But as he says, when you’re a Believe, facts don’t matter.

[@johnholmesinchesahead342]

You're just scared the story is real.

[@roberthesser6402]

@@johnholmesinchesahead342 They aren't, but I'm pretty sure you are. Atheists don't have an investment in whether it's true or not; if evidence comes forth that Jesus was a real person, we'd just accept it (not the divinity, just the man; divinity is a whole different category of burden of proof). But you, on the other hand, want to believe it, because you're scared of being wrong.

[@Prospro8]

To be honest, not one thing that Kenneth said is new. Most clergy, if they've been adequately trained know all this stuff, but Kenneth isn't taking it to the next level, the meta-level where he might see the transcendentalist truth behind it. The famous German theologian Rudolf Bultmann said, 'Faith must never be allowed to be dependent upon the labours of a historian'. The Christ within idea is just not catered for in Kenneth's mindset.

[@TrojansFirst]

@@Prospro8 Yeah I agree that part is useful. The earliest Christians knew Jesus was an allegorical myth and they used it as a teaching tool. It was Rome that literalized the Jesus story.. I love the teachings myself. Love God (I interpret that as loving reality) Love your neighbor, love your enemies. It really liberates you when you practice these teachings but you need the powerful non-dual experiences to really understand it, that's what Kenneth is missing, the powerful divine and mystical experiences. Who cares if there was historical Jesus walking around.

@@Prospro8 "The Christ within" you mean the bullshit within. FIFY.

[@MMaximuSS1975]

Good video but the Google ads every 7 minutes is getting to the point where I no longer want to finish the video. Holy f*** hell KZbin.

[@History-Valley]

There are now fewer ads on the video.

[@katarinaj.6830]

@@MMaximuSS1975 it's worth paying a few bugs a month to get rids of the adds, totally different experience 😁👍

[@Iamjamessmith1]

Paul went into the desert or Arabia and concocted the Christian religion that he preached for 3 months. Then he went and preached it. This is typically how all religions are made, including Islam and the Mormons and others. Their main founder spends time alone sequestered and then comes out with the message.

[@pattykake7195]

Joe Smith was a complete fraud and womaniser….🤢

[@TheInterestedObserver]

The story about Josephus being in the cave for three days, Josephus being by the side of Titus as he mirrors exactly the ministry of Jesus. Josephus seeing three friends on the crosses and taking down the bodies, surely, surely by now it is evidently clear exactly who is behind the gospel stories?? Clearly it is Josephus with full mandate from Rome.

[@wowojeejee]

Historians agree that there is not one written eyewitness account of Jesus during his lifetime. Strange since he was famous at birth, because wise men expected to see the future king of Jews who was born from a virgin married mother. Every leading Christian scholar since Erasmus, five hundred years ago, has maintained that the gospels were originally written in Greek from 70 to 140 CE (Mark after the year 70, Luke about 110, Matthew about 130, and John no earlier than 140 CE). This proves that they were not written by Christ's apostles, disciples or by any of the early Christians. Others say: “There is no proof of the Gospels existing before 130 CE” Jesus is depicted as hugely popular in the gospels. Yet he is unrecorded by non-Biblical historians. Paul was the first one to write about Jesus around 60CE; but he, like everyone else, never saw Jesus. He experienced a vision of the resurrected Jesus. Even Paul’s existence is in serious doubt. John Gresham Machen wrote: The establishment of Christianity as a world religion, to almost as great an extent as any great historical movement can be ascribed to one man, was the work of Paul. I also read that the history of the first three popes was invented because they never existed. All myth! Seek the truth!

[@charlesbrowne9590]

Tiberius Julius Alexander was Titus’ chief of staff and watched as the temple was sacked. He wrote under pseudonym Josephus and is the founder of the Xian religion. Josephus’ biography is a fiction.

[@TheInterestedObserver]

@@charlesbrowne9590 Josephus clearly is of Flavian and Herodian stock just like Vaspasian was and some people even place Titus as Josephus’ cousin. They are the pens behind Peter and Paul, with Paul attributed to the works of Pliny the Younger Josephus’ foster brother. However looking at these works, they will have been done by a literary team not one man or even two and yes Ur Markus and Ur Mattheus Gould be the q documents but they stem back to Seneca and the first attempt to write a global religion. There are multiple real Jesuses and they are spoken about, preachers and high priests. Then there is the gospel Jesus and the whole thing is actually the cruellest most scathing mockery of Judaism ever. It’s offensive and deliberately so. I would say that everything except for the Pentateuch is written by a Greek and Roman pens.

[@charlesbrowne9590]

@@TheInterestedObserver Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I agree that the NT was written by a team of intellectuals with ready access to Jewish and Greek literature. I’ll bet it was written at the Great Library of Alexandria! The Library sought all the books of the world, so they might have had the entire corpus of Xian literature. This would have been a big problem for the church. Xians were called “the people of the book”. One advantage of the book over the scroll is that changes can be made by replacing a single page rather than the entire manuscript. Also, mass production of books is easier than with scrolls: each scribe need only copy one page many times.

[@Baa975]

Interesting

[@dredog40]

keep up the good work Jacob & Ken.

[@ErichVonCartmann]

I can't seem to find Kenneth Humphrey's book the long version "Jesus Never Existed". I was only able to find the short version, "Jesus Never Existed: an Introductory"

[@MatthewCaunsfield]

Ken is just such terrific fun to listen to 😁👍

[@johnholmesinchesahead342]

He couldn't answer my question as to why donkeys have a cross on their backs.

@@johnholmesinchesahead342 lol I hope that's a joke

[@katarinaj.6830]

He's mentioned way more than 10 points 😉😊👍

and still missed a few, like the objective impossibility of miracles.

[@katarinaj.6830]

If you believe hard enough....😉😅🤷🏻‍♀️

[@SPDATA1]

Third time I listened to this....❤❤

[@charles-iii6759]

"And according to Mark so and so..." "And according to Peter so and so..." "And Paul said this and that." Who are those people saying "according to" and "this guy said this and that"? That we do not know. But the amount of shoehorning, special pleadings and mental gymnastic coming from believers is mind blowing.

[@OCA8WhitePeopleAreAlbinosOCA8]

I knew JESUS wasn't Real I luv the old Mx

[@mariadacre9647]

So Tacitus. Joesphus etc never mentioned Jesus?

[@EdwardM-t8p]

Josephus may have mentioned a different Jesus in his Antiquities 18.3.3 & 20.9.1, but then the two passages following 18.3.3 seem to debunk what we read in the offending passage. 18.3.4 discredits the idea of demigods being born of gods being intimate with women and the supposed deity of Jesus in particular, and 18.3.5 seems to call out Christianity as a scam but not by name.

[@EdwardM-t8p]

Tacitus on the other hand probably referred to Chrestus who gave Jews in Rome the impulse to riot during Claudius's reign (Suetonius, Lives of the 12 Caesars: Claudius 25.4) because the manuscript evidence shows that he didn't mention Christians but rather Chréstians.

neither Josephus not Tacitus were even born when Jesus was supposedly crucified. They wouldn't know jack sht.

[@journeysofar]

Fun and good interview. Lots of interesting tidbits

[@JohnJones-fh2uy]

"As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand." --Josh Billings, 1865 "Believers" just want to believe. They never give a rat's ass about having evidence that supports their beliefs.

[@ima1sthuemanonearth91]

I agree 💯

[@scottmcloughlin4371]

@@ima1sthuemanonearth91 The books of the bible are not pictures. I bet Socrates, Plato and Aristotle never existed. Julius Caesar was probably just a statue. Augustus Caesar was another "Son of God," so he didn't exist either. Seneca? He was just a cartoon. Origen and Justin Martyr were likely comic book heroes. Charlemagne too. He obviously never existed. George Washington never existed either. The CIA just made up Washington and Jefferson like they made up the moon landing. Marilyn Monroe didn't really die of a barbiturate overdose, because she didn't really exist. Hollywood stars were just early lifelike animated AI bots created by Disney. What could be more obvious? You know, life is really just a hologram. I'm not sure we exist either. But popular book peddlers are real. Those book peddlers will say anything to idiots to take their money.

[@BenThomas-z9m]

excess? very excessive and more and more and more no one survives well

[@salvadoralba8207]

Yes, and that's how you have Jesus hard to crack stuff

[@BagzAndPresident]

@@scottmcloughlin4371the moon landed was fake and we have proof marilyn existed

[@rochesterjohnny7555]

Great video Jacob, thanks Ken it was a real treat

[@delfimoliveira8883]

I like Ken He isnt a soft speaker Good interview Jacob Berman

[@trina2100]

I enjoyed this. I giggled quite a few times but Mr. Humphrey's makes a lot of sense.

[@pietsanvenero9756]

All I can say this day if you give me a choice to pick nomatter what poeple say I will take the chance and pick Jesus Christ and if I am wrong I will never know about anything about my death there is nothing dead end 2 But if it is true then I would know because of all the promises in the Bible and will be the happiest person in the new world and life of no more problems ❤

[@kateknowles8055]

This is the good WAY to choose.

[@bennettd1275]

You described Pascal's wager. There are hundreds of religions. You better make sure to follow and believe them all just in case one of the other religions happens to be true.

[@riversdelance3433]

Romans kept good documents. One good way you know somebody showed up is when His enemies said He was there.

[@chilli8011]

I used to say, Jesus knew the OOT enough that he and his friends just did what they had to to fulfil the prophecies. Self Fulfilled prophecies! Now I know even better, Thanks!

[@dan5760]

Brilliant interview. As firm Catholic/IHS it does offer insight. Any claims must be able to stand - When scrutinized. Only fair to do so

[@demej00]

I am a better person because of Jesus.

[@MikeTMike]

So, can you demonstrate he exists? The fact you believe something doesn't mean it's true.

[@iheartthickhoes]

you are a better person because of the steps you take day by day...not because of jesus

[@kateknowles8055]

What is undemonstrable to those who have eyes but see not, others obtain by their prayers. "The fact that you believe does not make it a falsehood either."

[@MikeTMike]

@@kateknowles8055 Nothing fails like prayer.

[@Katnip452]

@@kateknowles8055What utter prevarication. You have zero evidence for this storybook character so you just evade that by pretending your mental fantasies make him real. Yikes.

[@litew8]

When it becomes obvious, it becomes so very obvious that you wonder how anyone could not see it.

[@springNoNWo]

I like listening to Kenneth Humphreys alot!

[@juiceytee]

Great episode ❤

[@doggiesarus]

At the beginning, the information about (ancient) Nazareth never existing is interesting. I've never heard that.

[@asmaelitemiz2039]

The narrative in Acts begins to speak Saul (8:1) without any indication that he was also called Paul. Then the switch in the name suddenly occurs without any explanation in the account of the apostle's first preaching voyage: 'Then Saul- also known as Paul ( in the original Greek o kai Paulos, literally ' the also Paul') - was filled with the Holy Spirit...' (13:9). Furthermore, Acts attributes to Paul the following identification of himself (21:39, then elaborated in 22:3): I am a Jew, born in Tarsus in Cilicia, but brought up here in Jerusalem as a student of Gamaliel...in the Law of our ancestors. In the epistles he himself wrote, Paul does not mention Tarsus, in Cilicia (today in southern Turkey), as his place of birth, nor does he make any personal reference to an early residence in Jerusalem, or to Gamaliel as his instructor in the Jewish law. In Galatians 1:21, he speaks of 'places in...Cilicia' which he went to visit three years after the start of his apostolic career, without in any way indicating that he had a home or relatives there.From the information he personally gives about the beginning of his apostolic career(Galatians 1:17-18), the implications is that he was a resident ( perhaps a native) of Damascus and that his visit to Jerusalem three years after his conversion was his first- barring the possibility of an earlier visit or visits on pilgrimage. Possibly, Acts confuses the identity of Paul with that of another person called Saul who was the student of Gamaliel, and who actually lived in Jerusalem, where he was a Jewish persecutor of the early followers of Jesus- among other things, approving of the ' murder' of Stephen, the first Nazarene marter in the city (8:1). It is also possible that the use of Saul as Paul's original name was outright invention. Paul himself claimed to belong to the Israelite tribe ofBenjamin, and recognized Jesus as a descendant of David. Historically, there was a Saul who was the first king of Israel,and this Saul, like Paul, belonged to the tribe of Benjamin; David, who replaced him on the Israelite throne, belonged to the tribe of Judah. It was perhaps for this reason that the name Saul was assumed to have been the original name of Paul. Acts could have been drawing a subtle parallel between Paul and the historical Saul on the one hand, and between Jesus and David on the other, where it made Paul say in a speech, shortly after the change of his name (Acts 13:20-3): (God) gave ( the Israelites) judges until the time of the prophet Samuel. And when they asked for a king , God gave them Saul son of Kish from the tribe of Benjamin, to be their king for forty years. After removing him, God made David their king. This is what God said about him: ' I have found that David son of Jesse is the kind of man I like, a man who will do all I want him to do.' It was jesus, a descendant of David, whom God made the Saviour of the people of Israel., as he had promised. It is worth noting here that in the epistles he himself wrote, unlike this speech attributed to him, Paul does not dwell on the Davidic descent of Jesus, but merely mentions it in two instances in a somewhat offhand manner, and both times as a passing reference.

[@bleirdo_dude]

Here's the fishy story of Saul's/Paul's conversion. 🐟 Acts 9:3-8 "3 Now as he was going along and approaching Damascus, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. 4 He fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to him, "Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?" 5 He asked, "Who are you, Lord?" The reply came, "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. 6 But get up and enter the city, and you will be told what you are to do." 7 The men who were traveling with him stood speechless because they heard the voice but saw no one. 8 Saul got up from the ground, and though his eyes were open, he could see nothing; so they led him by the hand and brought him into Damascus." 2 Maccabees 3:23-28 "23 Heliodorus went on with what had been decided. 24 But when he arrived at the treasury with his bodyguard, then and there the Sovereign of spirits and of all authority caused so great a manifestation that all who had been so bold as to accompany him were astounded by the power of God, and became faint with terror. 25 For there appeared to them a magnificently caparisoned horse, with a rider of frightening mien; it rushed furiously at Heliodorus and struck at him with its front hoofs. Its rider was seen to have armor and weapons of gold. 26 Two young men also appeared to him, remarkably strong, gloriously beautiful and splendidly dressed, who stood on either side of him and flogged him continuously, inflicting many blows on him. 27 When he suddenly fell to the ground and deep darkness came over him, his men took him up, put him on a stretcher, 28 and carried him away - this man who had just entered the aforesaid treasury with a great retinue and all his bodyguard but was now unable to help himself. They recognized clearly the sovereign power of God." Acts 9:17-19 "17 So Ananias went and entered the house. He laid his hands on Saul and said, "Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on your way here, has sent me so that you may regain your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit." 18 And immediately something like scales fell from his eyes, and his sight was restored. Then he got up and was baptized,19 and after taking some food, he regained his strength. For several days he was with the disciples in Damascus, 20 and immediately he began to proclaim Jesus in the synagogues, saying, "He is the Son of God."' Tobit 11:7-8, :11-15a "7 Raphael said to Tobias, before he had approached his father, "I know that his eyes will be opened. 8 Smear the gall of the fish on his eyes; the medicine will make the white films shrink and peel off from his eyes, and your father will regain his sight and see the light."' "11 with the gall of the fish in his hand, and holding him firmly, he blew into his eyes, saying, "Take courage, father." With this he applied the medicine on his eyes, 12 and it made them smart. 13 Next, with both his hands he peeled off the white films from the corners of his eyes. Then Tobit saw his son and threw his arms around him, 14 and he wept and said to him, "I see you, my son, the light of my eyes!" Then he said, "Blessed be God, and blessed be his great name, and blessed be all his holy angels. May his holy name be blessed throughout all the ages. 15 Though he afflicted me, he has had mercy upon me. Now I see my son Tobias!"' 2 Maccabees 3:34-36 "34 And see that you, who have been flogged by heaven, report to all people the majestic power of God." Having said this they vanished. 35 Then Heliodorus offered sacrifice to the Lord and made very great vows to the Savior of his life, and having bidden Onias farewell, he marched off with his forces to the king. 36 He bore testimony to all concerning the deeds of the supreme God, which he had seen with his own eyes." "The use of cycles, parallels, repetitions, melodramatic characterization, stereotyped scene construction, inventing or presenting stories that replicate biblical narrative, unbalanced narrative with evident symbolic import, and a balanced structure-all these raise insurmountable objections. History cannot be quite so symmetrical. In addition there are any number of historical problems." Richard Pervo, The Mystery of Acts, pp. 151 Note: In Acts nowhere does the authorities show concern that a convicted criminal (Jesus) escaped justice, and is being harbored by what could be perceived as rebels against the government.

[@hippopotamus6765]

Straight out of Homer's Odyssey.

[@EdwardM-t8p]

An obvious mimesis of Virgil's Aenaeus - Dennis R. MacDonald

[@coreywicks1451]

The key to all this is the Orphic and Dionysian mysteries. Once you get a better grasp of this, then, you begin to see right through the Christian smokescreen.

[@OCA8WhitePeopleAreAlbinosOCA8]

people know JESUS wasn't Real CHRISTIANITY don't have a Smokescreen 😊

[@russellcollier8320]

@14.00: 'a lot of it, (Christian scripture) of course, is an echo of the Old Testament. Well, who knew! ? And there' s plenty more where that little gem came from! This guy just cracks me up. Very entertaining, almost like a comedy spoof.

[@bobmurphy9686]

This was good stuff.

[@470ollie]

Excellent work, Kenneth. All relayed with a hearty and healthy dose of humor. Oh, the tragically hilarious gullibility of our dubiously foolish specious. 😂

[@JamesRichardWiley]

We have two Jesus characters. The first was a wandering Jewish doomsday preacher who was finally executed as a public nuisance for stirring up the people in a period of political unrest. The second is a miracle working godman invented by the early Christians resulting in a collection of Jesus stories called the New Testament.

[@MrCyclist]

As a non-academic, Ken makes so much sense.

[@ml1712]

Publius Lentulus: “He is a tall, well-proportioned man and there is a severity in his countenance which attracted love and reverence. His hair is the color of new wine, from the roots to the ears and thence to the shoulders. He has never been seen to laugh but has been observed to weep. This was a letter describing what Jesus looked like according to Publius Lentulus

[@njm3211]

Hmmmm, never heard of this dude.

[@mikeyoung7660]

Love your videos excellent thank you

[@kirkmarshall2853]

I like Ken and I definitely think Jesus is just fictional. Edit: it’s hilarious how people will react to those four small words strung together: Jesus did not exist. See below for details.

[@JerryPenna]

I’m at 50-50 but definitely think Christian’s used Greek, Roman and Egyptian concepts to create a greater god than all.

[@kingofdetroit358]

Martin Luther king also never existed...it was propaganda

[@kirkmarshall2853]

@@kingofdetroit358 wow you are a fool

[@kirkmarshall2853]

@@kingofdetroit358 Martin Luther was a moron. Martin Luther King was real and a far better human than Martin Luther we have evidence . There isn’t a single piece of evidence that the buybull is right about anything.

[@kingofdetroit358]

@@kirkmarshall2853 sure buddy...n Lisa Ann never took a dp right?

[@reginaldwilliams617]

I love his laugh after every point... I laugh with him after every point..😂😂

[@1stHuemanAmerican]

Yeah because u know JESUS wasn't real 😊

[@Farmfield]

I grew up in Sweden in the 1970-80's and in religious studies in school, this idea that we had all these similar cults but Christianity was the one cult that was based on a real guy, that was presented as pretty fishy. And we're not talking full blown mythisism here, but it was pointed out that was pretty weird. So that just has to be the starting point. Jesus looks a lot by all these other made up figures and the presupposition of Jesus being real, unless proven otherwise, that's not reasonable.

[@brewerlarry5627]

Great show

[@EdwardM-t8p]

Thank you Jacob and Kenneth. Jacob, for having Kenneth on, and Kenneth, for your massive work of exposing the sketchiness of Christianity. I've vacillated between there being an historical Jesus and none whatsoever and now I am convinced that there wasn't any that conforms to the scholarly consensus of the guild of New Testament scholarship. What evidence is there is just extremely dodgy. P.S. Right before this video I watched a lecture by Richard Carrier, who takes down the biblical "evidence" for an historical Jesus and advances a celestial Jesus for Christianity's origins. 🙏 I hope you have him on the show, Jacob. 🙂

[@toms3664]

The argument at :47 minutes is top notch

[@johnholmesinchesahead342]

Anyone can walk on water - if you possess the right type of shoes. Nag Hammidi Library - Gospel of the Cobbler.

[@Luke1959]

What an interesting analysis, glad I came across this!! I was taught to question everything, research and make up your own mind. I'm not the only one 👍👍😂

[@mver191]

Jesus is both historical and not. There likely was some kind of preacher inspired by John the Baptist that took over when John died. But he likely had very little to do with the Jesus of the Bible. Very few "miracles" are shared between the gospels. And those that do are the weaker ones that can be explained otherwise (feeding the people in the wilderness etc). So is a fictional character inspired by a real historical person a historical figure? Should we consider Doc from Back to the Future historical because he is the stereotypical Einstein like scientist, with Einstein being a real person? Or Rick from Rick and Morty for the same reason?

[@billiewinton5906]

You might come up with a thousand reasons but you will never change the truth.

[@iheartthickhoes]

and truth is religious people are blind followers of make beleive indoctrination 😅

[@Bxtskul1l]

If someone is asking you to be a follower, and believe in magic - chances are you are being recruited into a cult.

[@Kinesiology411]

Oh magic exists, lol, and requires no group or leader.

[@rosannag.burroughs4563]

I must admit that Supernatural things Does Happen because several times in my life Ive witness things! And I credit this to the unseen Godself within, which is the Highest Consciousness within that can do All Things!!! 17:52

[@jonathansobieski2962]

Josephus’ Testimonium Flavianum has been shown beyond any reasonable doubt to be an interpolation by Goldberg in the 90s because it derives from the Emmaus story in Luke’s gospel.

[@QuestionThingsUseLogic]

From what I've discovered, Flavius Josephus was a pseudonym for the main author of the NT. Aka Ar/rius Pi so.

[@EdwardM-t8p]

Or he wrote the thing as is and in the next two passages subtly demonstrated the utter falsity of Christianity. I'm not even sure that the TF doesn't contain a subtle hint that Jesus never existed.

[@onepercenter13]

Thanks guys

[@OCA8WhitePeopleAreAlbinosOCA8]

Albino u n0t the only one percenter 😊

[@blackstter6317]

Man created Gods.

[@OCA8WhitePeopleAreAlbinosOCA8]

Duh Man created Words to talk 2 😊

[@blackstter6317]

@@OCA8WhitePeopleAreAlbinosOCA8 It's a shame you don't use them, then.

[@EmmanuelOgbua]

My question ! When he uses the term " We don't know " What does " we " mean ? I suppose he represents himself ( singular ) to ( we ! Plural )

[@e.h.5849]

he is deluded. and what a ridiculous facial hair......

[@jemborg]

Oh boy! Big fan 😁👍

[@9ja9ite]

Hey guys. I’m commenting two years after the initial video so this might get lost like a fart in the wind but I have a question for the community. I’ve been really diving into biblical in your eastern history for the last year since my Deconversion. It’s incredibly fascinating to get into the dirt and actually look at real history and timelines as opposed to the fairytales we were handed down. One of the things that is very confusing to me listening to so many different scholars is the timeline of how early Christianity started. There seems to be a main stream consensus about Paul being first then the gospels in the early Christian writers. What’s puzzling to me is how so much of the early Christian writers timelines don’t match up to win historians say they should. As a novice newcomer I’m trying to look at everything from a first principles position and I keep hitting walls where I’m asking why are you placing this in the late first century when people are referencing governor’s or emperors from 25-50 years later? Like I said I’m just a novice and studying this on KZbin to help unlearn much of the nonsense I grew up with BUT all the inconsistencies in the dating I’ve heard make me think Christianity did not start with Paul in the mid first century. It seems like it was at least a hundred years later and a whole lot of tampering was done to texts by changes and complete removal of them by the early church. How de we trust anything when they had over 1000 years to do and create any narrative they wanted with zero ability for anyone to fact check them? So I guess the short question is - is it possible Christianity started something like 50-100 years later then we think and the church just twisted everything to push it back to an earlier time?

[@jeffmacdonald9863]

What references do you think are that much later? Obviously, if the texts were edited then there could have been references to later figures that aren't in the texts we have, but then you wouldn't see that from the texts we have. And there wasn't anywhere near 1000 years to edit it. We've got fragments of 2nd century manuscripts and can cobble together complete texts from the 3rd. There are definitely copying errors and some larger differences, but nothing like what you're suggesting. (And if it did all start 100 years later, then there would be even less time to clean up the texts.)

Paul is the only relevant source on Jesus' historicity. If his letters are properly dated to the mid 1st century, there was obviously a Jesus cult in existence at that time.

[@colincrisp1592]

loved it THANK YOU BOTH

[@BenThomas-z9m]

the buble was created by outstanding people 👍🏻 but nobody is perfect, jesus was invented and some few people grasp it 🫰🏻⚫️☢️☯️

[@OCA8WhitePeopleAreAlbinosOCA8]

I agree 😊

[@rosannag.burroughs4563]

A man called Jesus Never Existed!!! The word Jesus means Your Highest Consciousness within!!!

[@sutapasbhattacharya9471]

Iesous Christos meant annointed saviour but represents the Inner Light of Pure Consciousness - the Son of God refers to the purified ego in Gnosis [aka anandamayakosa, ochema or Garment of Light etc.].

[@psilosydetrusenses4125]

Do you think Paul was a made up character?

[@History-Valley]

No I don’t think that.

[@downenout8705]

Someone wrote the letters, so you might as well call him Paul.

[@History-Valley]

@@downenout8705 I would say so.

[@jimnasium3979]

Paul was a real guy...but he invented his own bogus bio. Paul probably killed the dude that the Jesus character was very loosely based on.

[@QuestionThingsUseLogic]

​@@downenout8705Pliny the Younger wrote as Paul.

[@멸문멸공-b4c]

Please look horizontally at the camera instead of looking up.

[@אמנוןנחשלים]

Yes😂

[@OttoNomicus]

I think the miracle of calming the sea is about the fact that if you put some vegetable oil in wavy water it makes the waves reduce so much that you can see the flat area spreading out from where it was dropped in. In fact, in old times a sailing ship was saved by the captain dumping 5 gallons of oil overboard, it spread across an area of about a km around the ship. I saw a video showing the effect in a pond.

[@EdwardM-t8p]

Now what was Jesus doing in a boat with 12 young men, even teenagers, and 5 gallons or so of olive oil? 🤔 These stories rapidly get very suspicious once you have a rational, non-miraculous way of achieving these "miracles"!

[@sulongenjop7436]

This is the main problem when we live 2000 yrs after Jesus and try to disprove him ever existed!!!

[@jtprobst1]

That’s because you can’t prove something that is not true. We Jews are still here, yet xtians spit on us and worship an imaginative character they claim was Jewish….. 😂😂😂😂 we are the suffering servant, suffering from xtians delusion and thirst for 🩸 in the name of their dream man.

[@justbe1451]

Excellent chat fellows, reality does not allow Christians to think beyond the dogma. There are many in the world that are willing to hear different.

[@lightatthecape2009]

Oh puleeeese. Self aggrandising bull crap is still shit.

[@ChessArmyCommander]

Just curious, if you could decide magically or whatever, whether or not Jesus Christ is real according to all that scripture says about him, which reality would you choose? With Jesus being a divine real being, or not? Why, briefly?

[@ChessArmyCommander]

That's what I thought. lol Crickets.

[@winstonshipman8734]

I am Jewish and I have great respect for the scholarship of Kenneth Humphreys when he talks about Paul . (Saul Of Tarsus ) and the fact what they claim Paul did and the logic of what he preaches about Jesus is nothing but fiction. But I must somewhat disagree on Jesus . The Jews never claimed he did not exist even in the early centuries . But if you actually heard him speak I believe few would be interested.. He sounded like those Christians you will see with the signs"Repent the end of the world is near" wandering through the cities even today. The ones most think are crazy.

[@Kinesiology411]

They are crazy, lol. The Jews invented the Jesus myth to quell a rebellion.

Life of Brian is a documentary

[@jujujudio]

Many think Moses didn't exist either. Another fairy tale claimed by 3 warmongering religions. Bizarre, all of it.

[@timdavies2201]

"So what is point 2?" "Sorry remind me what the question was?" This man is clearly a genius.

[@HugeAndHugeCoinChannal]

No Jesus Here in 2023

[@1stHuemanAmerican]

I'm glad I'm not a CHRISTIAN 😊

[@kateknowles8055]

Jesus here in 2024. His Spirit is where it is welcome. His Source and his Word are everyplace everytime.

[@elizabethtaylor8603]

The first-century Jewish historian Flavius Josephus provides external information on some people and events found in the New Testament. The extant manuscripts of Josephus' book Antiquities of the Jews, written around AD 93-94, contain two references to Jesus of Nazareth and one reference to John the Baptist.

[@Lucinda-zr9su]

Josephus' account was proven to be a hoax...it was added in later. Josephus never mentioned Jesus.

[@jesusexposed1848]

I knew JESUS wasn't real Thank U NIQQAS

[@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777]

Jesus was never his name you are correct his name is Yahushua.

[@lutkedog1]

@@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 Yeshua

[@Humphrey-x2z]

​@@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777and he was not born on the 25th of december... Christmas is part of the fairy-tale

[@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777]

@@lutkedog1 Yes that's correct as well - and ends up as 'Joshuah' in English not 'JESSUS' . What I find interesting though is when I only 'thought' of the only begotten Son of God Yahuah was named Jesus.. I still came to him - so we have to realize God does work through our own ignorance ..but for us to perpetuate the ignorance is where evil creeps in. Thanks for your reply friend.

[@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777]

@@Humphrey-x2z Christmas helped me see the fraud in the Churchianity. All they did was put a pagan ritual into the minds under this guise. I even heard that there could be direct evidence he was born on April 1st and is why they created April fools day to mock Him.

[@youarenotme01]

I should make videos. I truly do understand this better than anyone I’ve listened to/read. My answer is so simple, and has undeniable proof. Takes minutes. You guys are over-intellectualising. Real answers are so elegant in simplicity there’s no argument one can make against them.

[@kberken]

Intriguing. What's your basic premise?

[@konmanolis2907]

Brilliant

[@ima1sthuemanonearth91]

Albino u m i s s me long time no see

[@topphatt628]

I think he looked like a punk rocker with a briefcase.

[@BenThomas-z9m]

this guy is the truth 🧐🟡🟨 i see it

[@BubbylovesJesus]

When Jesus fills you with The Holy Spirit, you are born again! I pray you seek Jesus with your whole heart,soul, body and mind ! 🙏🏽🙌🏽☝🏾

[@QuestionThingsUseLogic]

It's all fiction bro.

[@BubbylovesJesus]

@@QuestionThingsUseLogic , I’m so happy to tell you that you are wrong! Jesus is Alive! He loves you. He knows every hair on your head… He knitted you in your Mother’s womb. You are precious to Him . I am going to pray for you. May God Bless you and your family 🙏🏽🙌🏽☝🏾

[@QuestionThingsUseLogic]

@@BubbylovesJesus there's no evidence jesus existed. He's based on Dionysus....a wine god.

[@BubbylovesJesus]

@@QuestionThingsUseLogic , Jesus changed TIME ! He raised the dead… healed the sick..gave vision to the blind… casted out demons and so much more! These accounts were witnessed by thousands. No one else has ever done what Jesus did and still does.

@@BubbylovesJesus that is all made up bullshit. Little children need to believe that, not adults.

[@LittleImpaler]

I wanted to watch this earlier, but it wouldn't let me.

[@BenThomas-z9m]

but humanity actually struggles with reality

[@OCA8WhitePeopleAreAlbinosOCA8]

I don't GX()Xd is ur Mother 👩🏽‍🍼