What was the Secret Weapon of the Carthaginian Empire?

[@HistoryMarche]

🚩 Go to bit.ly/thld_cs_historymarche and use code HISTORYMARCHE to save 25% off today. Thanks to Curiosity Stream for sponsoring today’s video. 🚩 After Rome's destruction of Carthage in 146 BC, the Carthaginian libraries were given to the kings of Numidia, but Mago's work was considered too important to lose. It was brought to Rome and Decimus Junius Silanus was commissioned by the Roman Senate to translate it into Latin - but the Punic and Latin versions of the texts were eventually lost. However, it was Cassius Dionysius of Utica, an ancient North African writer on botany and medicinal substances, who became best known for his Greek translation of the great 28-volume treatise on agriculture, written by the Carthaginian Mago...

[@عبدالمجيدالحربي-خ5ز]

طيب لماذا ليس بالعربي او متجرم باللغة العربية 😘😍

[@deliriumbee4678]

Forgot to mention Ksanthipos the Spartan that trained and organized Carthage against the romans at one point in the past and was victorius

[@renatojgames]

@@deliriumbee4678 Do you know how was the colonization of Brazil?

[@frederickrohrbacher8606]

In my opinion, Britain, with all it's militant seafaring skills became the Neo Carthage and prospered to this day!

[@celestepalm6949]

Interesting that the part of Carthage's coastline this show focuses on actually looks like the Goddess Tanit in blessing mode.

[@kaustubhlunawat7827]

The general Scipio Ameilianus said "The same shall be the fate Rome some day" when destroying Carthage. Ironically Vandals sacked Rome from Carthage.

[@brainflash1]

Wait, SERIOUSLY?

[@amrel-tayeb8896]

@@brainflash1 yes bro. the vandals did sack rome, but later Belisarius of the byzantine empire would make a come back.

[@miguellabordaburnett3617]

They vandalized rome. They were expelled from iberian peninsule to the north of africa and from there they raided rome

[@Afrologist]

@@miguellabordaburnett3617 Crazy thinking that originally they came from what is now southern Poland. The Vandals have an absolutely compelling story, yet the modern usage of their name has tainted their historical perception.

[@kaustubhlunawat7827]

@@Afrologist Just like use of Tyrants in Greek history. People have an inherent dislike of the word. So when they hear about tyrants they always think of them as evil rulers.

[@RayanBacha95]

As a Tunisian it is always of great interest to me to learn about this ancient civilization from wich few records remain. Thank you very much for your awesome work

[@zakariaalami1491]

If only carthage won the war over rome the world would have been way more richer and diversified maybe in another dimension 😃

[@HannibalBarga]

Feel free to visit my villa at byrsa hill and meditate there. From my window i could see in the military port down on the shore.

[@eodyn7]

@@zakariaalami1491 lmao no

[@h1k0usen13]

Still gotta be proud of our history

[@zakariaalami1491]

@@eodyn7 why not ?

[@YTuseraL2694]

Scipio Africanus didn't level the city nor salt the land. Salting is indeed disputed, but the destruction was done by army under the command of Scipio Aemilianus 50 years later.

[@kaustubhlunawat7827]

@@xxkylordxx3036 Just like Germanicus. Which was a title given to Germanicus's father Nero but was a name given to him.

[@Feherlofia85]

@@xxkylordxx3036 The salt part is still a myth, the Romans could never pruduce or deliver the necessary amount. It's likely a Medieval addition, since it was a Biblical punishment

[@beepboop204]

Scipio Africanus the Younger

[@YTuseraL2694]

@UCk830bQP9oJePzP0wTSd4sA no, they did indeed make a mistake. If they made a specific portrait for Scipio Aemilianus then I'd be ok with it, but they used a portrait for THAT Scipio Africanus, for a reminder, see the beginning of the Part 15 and the Battle of Silva Litana. They used the same portrait.

[@Br1cht]

A lot of people that can use Wikipedia I see;)

[@magnushorus5670]

these videos are literally better than anything being made for tv, while thats not saying much.. these are wonderful! thank you for making them

[@npierce14]

Epic history tv is bomb also their Napoleon videos are some of The best vids I’ve ever watched

[@rodneywarr5696]

Right

[@Jakethegoodman]

Well you can thank and blame the internet for that. Theres such a fragmentary audience for actual history that if A & E and Discovery hadnt discovered Aliens and scripted reality they probably couldnt afford the FCC fees. Then when people started getting documentaries online there was no reason to go back. Damn youtube.

[@timothyp.1392]

Carthage is the most underated historical empire. It is sad how many people never learned about it or just forgot it.

[@fifa4lifeunknow795]

Definetly but its probably becuase Rome destroyed most off their written history and therefore it gets forgotten

[@malekaltayari3936]

@@fifa4lifeunknow795 That's the first rison

[@fifa4lifeunknow795]

@@malekaltayari3936 not sure What You mean by the Word rison?

[@geoffreyfoster8039]

@@fifa4lifeunknow795 It's a mammal related to bison.

[@hannotheexplorer6098]

Indeed, just another information, actual Vatican is believed to hold many of the stolen scrolls and wrintings from Carthage , that escaped the roman holocaust in the city (about philosophy , agriculture, different types of sciences ...), The Encyclopedia of Mago is just an exemple of one of those knowledges that we managed to keep till nowadays

[@معاذميمون]

هذه هي تونس العظيمة .. أخوكم من الجزائر

[@drusik]

"It is no coincidence that the works of Mago escaped alone". This video implies that the Roman's were specifically seeking these works, but during a bloodbathed raze where troops are almost impossible to command (especially since they've been waiting for 3 years outside Carthage's walls for that exact moment), how did they do it? - Was there a specialized detachment that was seeking them during the raze? - Was 1 Roman soldier like "Hey, this looks like useful stuff since I have a farm at home too"?. - Is this just being romanticized and it survived by other means such as copies from libraries in Greece or Egypt?

[@HistoryMarche]

It's unknown whether or not the Romans were aware of Mago's works. But after the takeover most of the Carthaginian literary works were destroyed or given to North African chieftans and kings (perhaps part of the Roman building up of relations with the region), while Mago's works were shipped to Rome (probably alongside other works that Rome deemed valuable, but we know nothing of these, it's just safe to assume that the Romans took home more than just Mago's writings). Mago's works were translated to Latin, but were lost to history and what we have now are remnants of a Greek translation - the footnote at the end of the video mentions this.

[@HistoryMarche]

To your question, this wasn't as chaotic as TV documentaries present. The Romans took their time to evaluate what to discard and what to keep - chief concern was to balance A) elimination of any Carthaginian heritage and B) preservation of whatever may benefit Rome.

[@aliosman0]

Proud to be a patron 😌😌 Marvelous episode on the Carthaginians. I always wonder how history would be shaped, if Carthaginians were victorious againts Rome.

[@gryph01]

I suggested that to a few alt history channels.

[@gappuma7883]

In an alternate universe they did

[@dimifisher]

Both were primitive in equal measures, so not much

[@azizaziz-ei2tz]

If Carthaginians were victorious be sure that the father of capitalism Adam Smith was born 1700 years or more before his real born

[@piemmeemme3390]

Dear sirs, as someone wrote before me, specially Lazar Moncilovic, there is a BIG MISTAKE in the introduction of this interesting video. The roman Consul who reduced Carthage to a heap of ruins in the year 146 B.C. was Publius Cornelius Scipio Aemilianus, also known as Scipio Africanus MINOR. Minor must be specified for not confusing him with the winner of the battle of Zama in 212 B.C.. Lazar Moncilovic is also right about salting the ruins of Carthage.

[@bonir2003]

CORRECT, Scipio Aemilianus won the Third Punic War.

[@monadsingleton9324]

Dear sir, or madam, or non-binary, gender-neutral entity, as I replied to Lazar Moncilovic, Scipio Aemilianus did indeed bear the _cognomen_ Africanus which was handed down by the conqueror of Hannibal to his descendants.

[@piemmeemme3390]

@@monadsingleton9324 Yes, but as I wrote above, MINOR must be specified. Otherwise, just for not confusing him with the winner of the battle of Zama, he is correctly called Publius Cornelius Scipio Aemilianus. The mistake of the video is also evident, because they are displaying the bust of the general who won in Zama in 212 B.C.

[@HistoryMarche]

Yep, a "minor" oversight. Shit happens :) My apologies.

[@geordiejones5618]

Dear sir, as no one wrote before me, specifically me, there is a BIG MISTAKE in the proceedings of this comment. The decisive battle of Zama, where Scipio Africanus earned his sobriquet and defeated the defensive forces of the fearsome but reduced Hannibal, did not occur in 212 BCE (when Syracuse was finally breached, another decisive moment in the Second Punic War) but in 202 BCE. This comment MUST be ammended to avoid misinformation and looking like an idiot. Of course my own comment MUST be preserved for the sake of honorable record.

[@Oblivious_uncertainties]

The history of Carthage is almost as fascinating as the story of Rome.

[@jimmiller368]

That’s some SPQR propaganda right there

[@h1k0usen13]

@@jimmiller368 Yeah and there is a lot of it sadly. There is so much more to Carthage's history than what meets the eye, and so much of it has been rewritten and propagandized to make the Romans look like they were the ones behind a dozen of Carthage's achievements. The winners are the ones who get to write the history, unfortunately

[@Oblivious_uncertainties]

@@jimmiller368 Ye, the history of SPQR and the history of the othe Roman emperor made feel like the Romans were superior, when clearly, they were not.

[@Oblivious_uncertainties]

@Caliber8250 Exactly, I used to thought that almost every inventions made during Antiquity were made by the Romans ( When I was like 5 ofc ), but I came to know that MOST of them are either taken credit for OR further modification of certain inventions.

[@tarekrahmni2768]

almost though . SPQR centric

[@aaronwalker4017]

Absolutely loved the breakdown of this video in every aspect.!! Even sown to the details on farming, and the proof of who wrote it and translated it..all these small aspects of history are what shaped our world to this day.!! Absolutely loved it.!! Brilliant work

[@HistoryMarche]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you very much for the kind words.

[@WMfin]

The origin story is so fascinating! I'd watch a series of origin stories of ancient cities/nations!

[@HikmaHistory]

Damn man, this might be your best vid yet!

[@HistoryMarche]

Thank you sir! I can't wait to get to the Uhud script! Pending...

[@KHK001]

@@HistoryMarche Hmm that interesting, r we having a follow up to the battle of Badr

[@HikmaHistory]

@@HistoryMarche Looking forward to it!

[@HistoryMarche]

@@KHK001 Yes sir, Hikma wrote the script. He was late (wink, wink)! I'm buried under a ton of work, but I expect to check it soon so we can get the ball rolling. Projects are always a process. Hikma and I were discussing Uhud for months now.

[@KHK001]

Glad to hear that i know both of u will do it justice! n thanks for your hard work as always

[@ionicafardefrica]

I'm curious if someone tried to replicate the Carthagian wine making technique, and what results it yielded. They basically used raisins and rehydrated them with unfermented wine. Then followed the normal steps - move into into a different recipient once the fermentation is over, store in cool, dark place. It's so wildly different than what we used today, you cannot help but want to taste it

[@titanicisshit1647]

there is a company in tunisia that does this

[@ionicafardefrica]

@@titanicisshit1647 did you taste it? Is it any good?

[@titanicisshit1647]

@@ionicafardefrica unfortunately i didn't

[@cheherklai4078]

@@titanicisshit1647 which company?

[@tmanw4796]

I’d love to taste this method.

[@heroe480]

I would like to hear more about Mago works and Carthaginian agriculture

[@Michael_Brock]

Something to consider, Egypt supplied the equivalent 4 months of Rome's basic grain dole a year, the rest of Africa, Morocco to Libya supplied the other 8 months. With Sicily and the Po valley supplying significant quantities as well. But some of this grain from all sources would have been sold to more premium or even luxury customers. Or some would be used in that provinces to feed the locals, farmers and livestock

[@CycleGirl-77]

I remember hearing that the Romans salted the earth of Carthage from my Latin teacher back in high school. At the time, I accepted it literally, though I now understand it as apocryphal. It was a powerful way to communicate that Rome would never allow Carthage to rise from the ashes.

[@ivandicivan4189]

Thank you for making video that completely debunks the supposed "mercantile" nature of the Carthaginian state, we need more of videos like this. There are a lots of internet mythis about Carthage, but them being "mercantile state" or ruled by merchants is the most persistent one and needed to be debunked. Great video.

[@HistoryMarche]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@thekinginyellow1744]

I would say this video goes too far in the opposite direction. Carthage did have a mercantile empire as well as rich land. The two things are not mutually exclusive. In fact, having an abundance of grain to sell is a huge bonus for someone wanting to create a commercial empire.

[@gm2407]

Even before the end of the 1st century BCE the Romans had built a colony there. The province of Africa was providing grain for Rome. Absolutely cruicial for Octavian to gain control from Lepidus as Anthony had Egypt.

[@gm2407]

Even since decades before the year of the consulship of Cossus Cornelius Lentulus and L Calpurnius Piso the Romans had built a colony there. Absolutely crucial for Octavian to gain control from Lepidus as Anthony had Egypt.

[@jaybar5100]

The fact that I named off a few possibilities in my head before I watched the video and wasnt even close although ive watched every History Marche video is proof how important these videos are

[@benjaminrees6665]

Love ancient history. Carthage can be tough to find much on. Margo was new to me. Love the info and added perspective of the importance of farming economically and politically

[@megawackoking]

I love learning about Carthage not just it's generals but overall history at that!

[@mouath_14]

Who wouldn't love to learn about an under-rated yet totally dominant republic that discovered the Americas long before the Colombus bullshit trip.

[@ShroomSnip3r]

Fantastic content. I love these rare insights into ancient societies that focus on non-warfare/familial drama. Things like mining and agriculture were complex and interesting and set strategies, thank you for focusing on it for this video!

[@trentondamm194]

I since a "Rise of the Carthaginian Empire" series!!😁 Awesome work as always and I am looking forward to part 18 of The Second Punic War!!

[@FromAcrossTheDesert]

It is no surprise that the great civilizations in history have grown along navigable water ways such as rivers and seas. Think of Carthage, Rome, China, Egypt, India, Spain, France, Great Britain, etc. You tap into a greater mind share by connecting into the efforts of a larger pool of people. Most of internal Africa remains poor because it has no navigable waterways; Their rivers are seasonal and have several water falls which prevent them from being traversed for trade.

[@hoppeananc]

Portugal is also an amazing example : huge continental empire (that was bigger than Rome's)

[@tootlingturtle7254]

@@hoppeananc I mean kinda but Portugal isn’t really comparable to rome

[@hoppeananc]

@@tootlingturtle7254 for sure but its still one of the most influential christian nations and we influenced plenty of cultures including as far as Japan as ee were the first europeans to make contact with them and introduced guns and christianity. The most important civilization though, even considerably more important than Rome is missing, and that is Greece which also lived near waters.

[@hoppeananc]

@@tootlingturtle7254 But it is an example of how naval wise a small state can grow to become a big empire. Portugal found success because we had no way out besides the sea. So we went out to discouver. Its actually the perfect example of a kingdom turning into an empire due to taking advantage of its geopolitical location.

[@mahmudofghazni2390]

Small brain comment

[@Miamcoline]

Extremely good point. Powerful agriculture can make even the hardest hit states/civilizations bounce right back with the right organisation. Awesome video as always!

[@ryangepitulan5011]

Wow that Mago guy seems to know his stuff. I'm pretty sure he knows what crops are best to plant in Stardew Valley on the first year!

[@shuvomukhopadhyay5655]

I like your videos before watching it, because I have the confidence that it's going to be good.

[@alespretor27]

They had their chance during Hannibal's conquest which lasted 16 years. Their politicians arrogantly missed to seize that opportunity. The ultimate price was total anihilation of Carthage.

[@urbanurchin5930]

Thank you - I am already a subscriber to Curiosity Stream and find it a nice alternative to other services. I always find something informative and interesting.

[@karkavelotk5689]

Awesome vid as always, i live in Spanish Carthage and I like to know the history of the great carthage

[@HistoryMarche]

Thank you very much!

[@omarsediri9745]

I live in carthage , i love u from here ❤

[@marpag123]

Well done Sir, a fine piece of work.

[@JawsOfHistory]

I never took the salting of the earth as literally pouring salt. I always just pictured them flooding saltwater into the agricultural heartland.

[@speggeri90]

I always thought it was an exaggeration to highlight how much Romans hated Carthage. Some later invention to be more precise.

[@optimusprinceps9875]

This is an interesting perspective

[@randysavage1]

Great point....also dont forget africa has lots of salt mines. But yeah ocean water would be the best way. Great point

[@HistoryMarche]

The salting is mentioned in the video because its part of the historiography, but the video implies it didn't happen - I personally am sure it didn't. But whether the salting is a myth or not is actually irrelevant in the bigger picture, because any destruction that took place was confined to Carthage city and its immediate surroundings - an area quite smaller than Tunis city today. Now, contemporary Roman propaganda likely inflated the news about the destruction so it can serve as a cautionary tale to others, before they consider standing up to Rome. But in practice, the destruction was minimal and certainly didn't encompass a region, but more a city. The Romans were way too pragmatic to just ruin what was a perfectly productive area on the map.

[@JawsOfHistory]

​@@HistoryMarche I agree with you that it didn't happen. I meant it more that you're just reflecting how it's seen in the popular imagination than questioning how you did it. On the other hand, I always thought it fascinating that Caesar established colonies in Carthage, which I hope you'll cover at some point.

[@lorencato]

Thank you for this series 🙏 Every episode is a gift! Thank you

[@haythemsaidi91]

It is great from you to dedicate a whole episode to Mago the father of farming and talk about his fundemental contributions to the might of Carthage. Mago wasn't any less important than Hannibal.

[@donyaz4605]

Thank you historyMarche .This video is enough to make a grown man cry 😢 😭

[@nikhtose]

Excellent! Learned a lot. The vast prosperity and profit of the Carthaginian elites indeed sealed their doom, as they failed to inculcate the spirit of "civitas" that enabled the Romans to mobilize vast citizen armies, and navy, against their mostly mercenary Carthaginian counterparts.

[@ivandicivan4189]

Thats largely a myth, Carthaginian armies mostly werent mercenaries, also Roman armies civitas is a myth, ancient states including Rome were all loose structures, they were not nation states like we know them today and they didnt have patriotism which is 19 century product.

[@TukozAki]

@@ivandicivan4189 How could they afford so many desastrous battles for so many years in their homeworld against smarter Hannibal then?

[@nikhtose]

@@ivandicivan4189 A counter-myth. Carthage relied on mercenaries everywhere, never equaled Rome's capacity to mobilize both its citizen base ("citizenship" here conferred broadly, but differently, across Italy) and allied towns into a unified army. This "civitas" made the astonishing recovery from Cannae possible, while Carthage was crippled throughout by greed-fueled internal rivalries that sapped its war effort.

[@moneyflow5766]

@@ivandicivan4189 that's a lie Carthage's armies were a collection of mercenaries.

[@giorgospapadopoulos7709]

@@ivandicivan4189 you think that you gather 70k men to go to get slaughtered by hand without patriotism?

[@ninjabreadman1993r]

I love this video! I'm a new subscriber after having watched your Hannibal documentary and Aurelian documentary, and it's super high quality, so I'm working my way through the back catalogue! I do have a suggestion for a future topic, if I may be so bold? I find that Historical channels across KZbin tend to forget about certain areas of the world (no blame, of course; you can't cover everything!) and I have yet to find many videos on Indonesian History, which is just as rich and extensive as European and continental Asian! In particular, the Majapahit Empire is a goldmine of interesting periods, from its rise and dominance over the Indonesian archipelago, to its eventual conflicts with Mongolian China! Just a suggestion for a possibly interesting series that I don't see many other history channels on KZbin covering, especially with your level of detail and high production. Either way, I'm loving the videos and I'll keep tuning in whenever you drop them! Keep up the good work!

[@gregorioestioco6077]

Thanks man for this great vid, really a masterpiece of history! Farming is the most essential part of our lives...Many people don't recognize it nor value it due to ignorance and misconceptions...Your great details entail eye opening to everyone...

[@catalinsoare1261]

Never heard of this topic before. Interesting video.

[@deonepeacham7531]

Very interesting i love your carthage videos very overlooked in view of Mediterranean history by rome would love to learn more of carthage as a whole fantastic video

[@HistoryMarche]

Many thanks!

[@masterdreadeye1865]

@@HistoryMarche dudes you really need to study the coins found at Zama depicting Carthagian Officers donned in the pelts of the now extinct barbary lion.

[@jhonfamo8412]

This was the best yet

[@TheRustyLM]

So good! Thank you! I’d like to visit Tunis some day. I hope things can return to calm & civility soon.

[@omarsediri9745]

u re welcome any time , by the way i live in carthage , in town named kram referred to fig tree , known by agriculture

[@maskogi6346]

Thanks for your dedication!

[@darthkillran]

Love this channel, this video and the series about Hannibal. Keep doing what you're doing History Marche!!!! 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘☄️☄️☄️

[@thecrusaderhistorian9820]

Thank you for a great video! I never knew all this. And...you are right, farming is really important!

[@amazigh-amoqran]

As a Tunisian, Carthage was and still my pride 🇹🇳💪🏼

[@muatheluafi6816]

Why pride

[@Neion8]

@@muatheluafi6816 Probs because we are all shaped by our environment, and our environment was shaped by our ancestors (even though Carthage fell, it's not like it never existed); through their struggles and triumphs mankind has elevated itself from a hairless ape that played prey as often as predator into the undisputed world-champions of nature - able to super-charge our own evolution via technology. Knowing that the people who helped make you also played a part in the ascention of mankind is no small thing, and pride in such things should exist - for it is only in our legacy that we might find eternal life on Earth, only for legacy are we motivated to work to improve the world in perpetuity, rather than just our own circumstances in the present.

[@muatheluafi6816]

@@Neion8 By that logic shouldn't the Europeans and Americans be the most proud people on earth ? But if they do they will be called racist

[@Neion8]

@@muatheluafi6816 I guess to some extent, but you have to be realistic with how everyone built on the successes of others - European scientific development would've been pretty damn delayed without the Arab developments in Mathmatics, without Carthaginian agricultural developments, there never would've been a large enough population to have the large number of specialist scientists which helped shape the modern world, without Indians and Chinese ancestors developing wheat and rice into domesticated, farmable varients, how different would the world look and how effective would farming practices be without the two most common old-world carbohydrates? Just because Europeans dominated the 19th and 20th century when it comes to inventions doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't count. This goes double since pre-Roman Europe was pretty pointless in mankind's development (aside from the Greeks) and Rome relied on North Africa, the middle east and the silk road with Asia to become powerful enough to penetrate deeply into Europe and spread it's technological growth for ages to come.

[@TheSinisa96]

Amazing video! More like it please, so interesting learning more niche subjects such as this!

[@FreeFallingAir]

Amazing work as always, throughly enjoyed! Imagine if Carthage won the Punic wars, wonder how the world would have shaped out. I Think that may make a good alternative history novel 🧐🤔. Anyway, Great Job!

[@faydulaksono]

yes maybe germania will be colonized by Carthaginian

[@Callsign_Prophet]

@@faydulaksono would have had the same outcome as the romans. It wasn't that they couldn't be beat it's that they never accepted defeat.

[@FreeFallingAir]

I'm thinking more along the lines of Carthage getting Sicily, maybe Egypt and The Spanish Peninsula, Keeping Nubia as a strong ally, but basically owning Northern Africa. I don't believe they would even want Germania, too far and too hard to govern a people who absolutely refuse to be governed or cowed.

[@faydulaksono]

as skilled tradesman and seafarer that wound not imposibke fot Carthaginian. ahhh Damn scipio and battle of zama!!

[@Nasrou89]

As a kid that Byrsa hill was a struggle to climb after a long beach day. Learning the history of it almost brought me to tears.

[@ryanstough377]

I always forget to like and comment to help the almighty algorithm but I'll try harder. Great video! I watch every single one. The series on Carthage and Hannibal is excellent. It made me start a new Rome 2 total war campaign lol.

[@moncef.zaaraoui]

شكرا لك على هذا المحتوى القيم الذي تقدمه

[@53yearsago56]

I feel bad for chartage it had a lot of potential

[@speggeri90]

I wouldn't feel so positive for those human sacrifiers.

[@themanfromtheeast2048]

same

[@mr.2083]

The potential was certainly there, but they just weren't efficient enough. Some of the things that initially made them a great power (like the way their politics, their navy or their armies functioned) later held them back and they didn't implement the right reforms (early enough) to counteract those deficiencies.

[@-carthage7779]

@@speggeri90 In the coliseum ? Yes

[@-carthage7779]

@True crusader That was roman propaganda with no proof .. yet we have poof about rome's sick society .. "the coliseum "

[@ThomasWhiteX]

Another brilliant video, thank you

[@HistoryMarche]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Харби-щ5с]

Hannibal is the secret weapon

[@brainflash1]

Came here to say that, but you Julian'd me.

[@BlitzKrieg19]

You should post often...I rlly enjoy your videos and I m sure that, I m not the only one:)

[@notthefbi7932]

Great episode, never realized that farming was the backbone of Carthage 🤔

[@moncef.zaaraoui]

حقائق عن حضارتي لم أكن أعرفها..شكرا لك

[@UsernameTaken-qx3uu]

I love this series

[@OM3N666]

Carthage history is sooooo unexplored it's mind-blowing. We badly need movie size of Gladiator about it.

[@vennb1137]

Very, very interesting indeed!

[@OmarChouikha]

Thank you for doing these videos, cheers from Tunisia (modern day Carthage)

[@denniscleary7580]

That weapon would definitely be Hannibal and his brave Warriors that believed in him. Thanks for the great video guys 👍

[@suryateja99660]

Buddy Dennis can you tell me who is Hannibal ☠️🥵👑(the great🙇🙇).... In google it's just showing he a commander. Please i want to know about him. Lemme me know please.

[@Br1cht]

It was his father, Hamilcar that taught Hannibal and he won his campaigns vs the Romans in the first Punic war.

[@suryateja99660]

I see

[@mza3764]

2000 years later MAGON is the name of the best wine in Tunisia.

[@HistoryMarche]

Indeed.

[@mza3764]

@@HistoryMarche have you ever tried it ?

[@omarsediri9745]

​@@HistoryMarchere u Tunisian ?

[@ingold1470]

This was why Cato the Elder said "Carthago Delenda Est", because he visited Carthage early in life and was struck by how quickly their economy recovered. From this he realised that they would always be a major thorn in Rome's side unless destroyed.

[@titanicisshit1647]

What a stupid way to think

[@matthewmatt5285]

@@titanicisshit1647 ???,..Idiotic comment~

[@ivandicivan4189]

Carthage had a monopoly on iron manufacturing in Northern Africa that was their source of power not trade or agriculture. Some other punic cities (Utica and Cadiz) were more agricultural. There were three wealthiest social classes in Carthage, priests, owners of production facilities for metal work and warrior nobility (who were more navy).

[@ragzaugustus]

[Citations needed]

[@masterdreadeye1865]

@@ragzaugustus sorry it was gold along with the dye purple known as phonecian purple or tyrian dye. Carthage dispatched Hanno at the head of a fleet of 60 ships to explore and colonize the western coast of Africa. He sailed through the straits of Gibraltar, founded or repopulated seven colonies along the African coast of what is now Morocco, and explored significantly farther along the Atlantic coast of the continent. Hanno encountered various indigenous peoples on his journey and met with a variety of welcomes. The gold trade was a foundation of the Carthaginian empire since the fifth century BC. It may have been the original motivation for Carthaginian exploration of sub-Saharan Africa.The purpose of Hanno's voyage was to secure the gold route to west Africa.

[@bigsarge2085]

Awesome, thanks!

[@sebastienm5569]

Should be worth mentioning that North Africa had a slightly different climate 2000+ years ago

[@-carthage7779]

No . Untill this moment tunisia still one of the best agriculture places for all kinds of goods

[@TheTablePaper]

@@-carthage7779 The climate of Tunisia changed around the second century AD well after Carthage was destroyed. Sebastien is right when he mentions it was different. It was more fertile during the Carthaginian times.

[@sami3566]

@@-carthage7779 Lol Tunisia import more than export of food And agriculture in the region aka North Africa are still primitive

[@Ealdorman_of_Mercia]

I really like this narrator's voice/tone. I also enjoy the voice of the guy narrating Kings and Generals. it gives off a serious, militaristic, stoic tone.

[@paulvmarks]

With hindsight, it was the failure of the Carthaginians to defeat the Greeks and conquer Sicily that doomed Carthage. If they could not defeat the Greeks of Sicily and add its resources and manpower to their own, how could Carthage stand up to the much greater population that Rome could call upon.

[@mouath_14]

Indeed it was. Also the failure to recognize early on the threat that Italian tribes could cause, one of them would become Rome. Then again, Carthage was never really interested in geo-politics, military and glory. they only had one religion beside Tanit, MONEY. Give them trade and they'll give you anything. If the senate in Carthage had any braincells, they could've easily allied with Italy's tribes or bought loyalty early on.. they had unlimited wealth yet they only cared about mercenaries and taxes...such a shame, was a much better civ than rome.

[@ezwan7656]

Carthage had the second chance to defeat rome through Hannibal Barca. They didnt took the chances, the failure to support Hannibal campaign in italian peninsular when he was so closed to win the war was the one that led to their destruction.

[@nisarbo3781]

Eh no? They conquered most of sicily by the time the 1st punic war with the exception of Syracuse as the only remaining independent greek polis while the remaining cities were tributaries of Carthage.

[@Akeraton]

Marvelous video, as always

[@algolin]

Salting of the Carthaginian fields is probably a myth and if was done, was done only symbolically. It would be a big waste of salt and soil. Where would Romans get so much salt? The area became part of Roman Empire later, why would Romans be destroying their future fields?

[@HistoryMarche]

Indeed. The salting is mentioned in the video because its part of the historiography, but the video implies it didn't happen - I personally am sure it didn't. But whether the salting is a myth or not is actually irrelevant in the bigger picture, because any destruction that took place was confined to Carthage city and its immediate surroundings - an area quite smaller than Tunis city today. Now, contemporary Roman propaganda likely inflated the news about the destruction so it can serve as a cautionary tale to others, before they consider standing up to Rome. But in practice, the destruction was minimal and certainly didn't encompass a region, but more a city. The Romans were way too pragmatic to just ruin what was a perfectly productive area on the map.

[@gustavogregory9906]

Roman's used "Scorched earth" tactics many times especially against the Gauls. Winning battles superceded anything until victory was claimed. Let the peasants rebuild the land, you are now under Roman rule

[@Nasrou89]

Salt is in abundance there. A huge salt lake is less than 5 miles away from carthage. There’s another huge one 20 miles west of it.

[@parabelluminvicta8380]

@@Nasrou89 stop with the bs. Why Romans should waste salt, when it was even used to pay soldier?

[@Nasrou89]

@@parabelluminvicta8380 have you ever been there? I grew up around the ruins of Carthage.

[@dglzx9337]

Thank you and congratulations for such fabulous content...

[@HistoryMarche]

Thank you so much 😀

[@HungryOwl287]

Yaay more Carthage

[@fawzih.4610]

Here in Tunisia we still to this day call the non-irrigated farming method "Ba'ali" (of Baal) in reference to Baal Hammon as to say it is dependant on the deity's grace (who is in control of fertility, rainfall, etc...)

[@muizawang]

I came here with basic Carthiginian history and I came out as Carthaginian Wine Maker

[@christopherthrawn1333]

Just imagined if the Roman Empire copied the Carthaginian harbor and used it in Italy????? The Carthaginians were ahead in sea trade and exploration.

[@-carthage7779]

You know that you can still see that harbor in Google maps ?

[@stroqus3830]

Cool video, keep up the good work

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

Agriculture: the seeds of civilisation.

[@brokenbridge6316]

Nicely informative video

[@HistoryMarche]

Thanks a lot

[@brokenbridge6316]

@@HistoryMarche---Your welcome

[@bioliv1]

Ah, so the word for stomach in Norwegian, "maga", is derived from Mago! As Mago filled our "maga", so we didn't have to starve:-)

[@oslonorway547]

mage 👌

[@bioliv1]

@@oslonorway547 Totning.

[@HistoryMarche]

Gotta say, this is interesting 👌 lol

[@cemkesici8247]

Great video. It would be great to see an example of the techniques in these books used in roman world mentioned in the video.

[@naiad5043]

and the 5th pillar was Hannibal, even taller than agriculture

[@gowensbach2998]

Thank you. I love history, and the more you watch it, the more interesting it becomes...(at least for me).....as I see so many parallels to today's times. Bravo!

[@cloore3239]

0:28 Scipio AEMILIANUS**** not Afrcanus

[@beepboop204]

Scipio Africanus the Younger

[@HistoryMarche]

Yep, clearly an oversight. Apologies.

[@pyrrhus3445]

There are few records or ruins of the Carthaginian civilization because the Roman didn’t want anyone to know about them or how they learned many things from them Rome didn’t want carthage to compete with her even in history but we all know that the Carthaginians surpassed the Romans in many fileds but not the military I guess or it’s just destined idk

[@simgarfu]

In what ways did they surpass them?

[@pyrrhus3445]

@@simgarfu you watched the video so you know they surpassed them in agriculture and trade and ofc in naval technology Carthage kept its superior naval abilities even after the defeat of the second Punic war and we all know that the Romans copied everything from the Carthaginians when they captured their ship in conclusion Rome knew she won’t be the undisputed super power unless she destroy Carthage even weak as it was it still made Rome feel the threat of its rising again

[@simgarfu]

@@pyrrhus3445 we don’t “know” any of that. Rome was able to challenge Carthage on the seas because they started actually taking their navy seriously and building a ton of ships. They used different tactics in Re: to naval battles as well; depending on boarding tactics. That’s not copying them in as much as it is basic common sense. You fight on your terms, not your enemies (whenever possible, obviously). To your point, few would argue that had a better navy, they merely held their own using tactics that worked for them. The video is one perspective, there are a number of different accounts that tell a different story. It’s very done, and I thoroughly enjoyed it, but it’s not the end all/be all.

[@simgarfu]

@@pyrrhus3445 nevermind, just re-read what you wrote 🤦🏽‍♂️ I’ll show myself to the door lol Cheers

[@GigaDuck241]

I swear how do you draw these maps, theyre so beautiful

[@alexp.2897]

It always makes me sad that Carthage lost the second Punic War; alas I wish they would have won.

[@matthewmatt5285]

Same~

[@WarMachineCCS]

Almost 2500 years had past, and still the writings of Mago are applied today.

[@raidang]

This is probably my fav history channel but thats not scipio africanus was in punic war 3 😭

[@beepboop204]

Scipio Africanus the Younger

[@Seraph2077]

can't believe nero became an anime girl

[@HistoryMarche]

Yeah, clearly an oversight. Sorry about that.

[@crypticTV]

4:46 ox hide analogy 12:47 Cato the elder

[@princepssenatus7607]

this confusion occurs because they translate the names in English which distorts the Latin: with the original names it is very clear: he was called Scipio Africanus Minor or Numantinus, the first name because he was the grandson of Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus and the second name for having destroyed the Iberian city of Numancia

[@Albtraum_TDDC]

Yeah Latin and Greek being phonetic languages were so much better than the mess that is English today. Even old English was more phonetic than today...

[@ImperialDemocracy]

Great video about ancient political economy.

[@sethbartley2212]

i love the videos that focus on these lesser knows 'behind the scenes' type topics of civilization administration and the all the day to day functions that make epic historical events possible. keep at it. (i will say however, that this video was very repetitive. you literally repeated the story of his scrolls being saved and translated three separate times. that would make sense in a long video, but this was just 10 min excluding commercial).

[@Albtraum_TDDC]

also there was no real comparison of how much money Carthage made from trade and how much from agriculture. Or also war and tributes.

[@Roducius]

Nice work!

[@KHK001]

An amazing video as always! But spoilers Tho XD

[@HistoryMarche]

Glad you like it KHK! Love seeing you here

[@ShenGe]

In an alternate universe, the Carthaginians would have stuck around and maybe we'll all speak Phoenician.

[@hannotheexplorer6098]

Always watching your videos and loving your content @HistoryMarche , and thank you for that.. But "Elyssa" (Dido) was just a pure myth. * Quick informations : - Carthage was simply carthagian (carthaginian) and existed way before, not a lebanese colony, and hosted different ethnicities and cultures. - The term "punic" were invened later by greeks , the only pertinent one is carthagian or carthaginian. - Two headed political system (2 kings ruling together, just to make sure to keep the balance of justice) - Unlike Rome (which was created after Carthage), slavery was strictly prohibited in Qart-Hadasht - No evidence of child sacrifice - Trirems design was made by carthaginian navy (Athens adopted the same dynamism and aesthetics later, and became the strongest maritime power in the region after Carthage) - Hanno the navigator was the first to reach northern Europe, southern Africa, and some of the eastern coasts of north America (evidence : coins, pottery and ingravings found there) - Many cities named "Carthage" : in the US, Colombia, Spain and around the world. - Iberians, south Gauls, Spartans, some Germanic / saxons , supported Carthage in the biggest part of the Carthago-Roman wars, trying to find a way out of the new-roman imperial expansionism. - Sicily and Malta were originally carthaginian . - Tanit was the main ancient goddess, + Baal - The constitution of Carthage was the first in history (Aristote recommended it and found that it was more pertinent at that time) - The creation of the purple colour (dye manufacturing, from a type of sea snails) - Carthaginian architecture was unique and special, same as if we think of the beauty of greek or roman style today, but unfortunately cities were razed to the ground so that any trace of a rival disappear. - It is highly believed that the Vatican actually hosts many scrolls and writings that survived the sacking of Carthage.

[@robbabcock_]

Wonderful video!

[@HistoryMarche]

Thank you very much!