Wow. Never thought I'd see someone from the States do a lesson on an Ian Dury tune. Great lesson and great playing as ever. Nice one Josh.
@joshfossgreen9 жыл бұрын
TalkingBass - Online Bass Lessons Thanks Mark!
@Facu_Roldan6 жыл бұрын
Now you did your own Mark!
@talkingbasslessons4 жыл бұрын
@hJYIRI GKK That's right. Josh and I both sailed out of Southampton at times
@willb36988 жыл бұрын
Norman Watt-Roy.....He's still out there gigging. He's a monster!!
@manicmedicNZ7 жыл бұрын
Still with a tooth??
@stubmandrel5 жыл бұрын
NORMAN WATT-ROY!!!!! Give the guy some credit!!!!!!!!
@mookie26374 жыл бұрын
I figured this out by ear (pretty accurately) before the internet and before anyone really knew what tablature was in the late eighties. It took about three weeks. Since then It's a standard practice piece for me, and I've played it live quite a lot; often at weddings. The 'hairy' second half of the verse part notwithstanding, it's pretty much muscle memory now. However, one important point is this - don't even think about attempting it if you've consumed any alcohol.
@aquamarine999113 жыл бұрын
OK, I'll ask you this. The way I used to play it was to slide from the C to the F on the A-string. Then I thought Norman actually slides from the F to the Ab on the D-string. I didn't hear him throwing an Eb. How do you play it?
@mookie26373 жыл бұрын
@@aquamarine99911 I play it off the open A, then hammer up the E flat and F. The open A is actually off-key, but it makes the whole thing flow very well. I had a little row with Marlowe DK about this ages ago because I used to slide up to B flat on the E string, but these days I prefer the A. I'm confident about that E flat though.
@aquamarine999113 жыл бұрын
@@mookie2637 Open A? Well, whatever floats your boat, as long as you realize that's not what Norman is doing. (Also, he's not pedaling on the open D in that Db F to Ab chromatic run-up during the verse). But I now realize I'm wrong. After slowing it down to 50%, I now hear the Eb on the A string, sliding to the F, then finishing off with the Ab and high Eb.
@petergreen18695 жыл бұрын
'Obscure'!! This was no. 1 in the British charts in 1979 and the band was massive at the time.
@uelude5 жыл бұрын
As are countless other obscure tracks most people in UK have long forgotten about.
@andyd97704 жыл бұрын
@@uelude However, this isn't one of the obscure ones in the UK. Most people over here would have heard this at some point, whether it's from their parents, the radio, an advert on the TV or just from someone singing it for no reason
@Dovafish.3 жыл бұрын
@@andyd9770 I'm a British teenager and literally all of my friends have heard of 'hit me with your rhythm stick' or 'sex and drugs and rock and roll'
@walterrizotto8668 Жыл бұрын
Don't think it was a hit in the USA at all.
@flat5sharp115 жыл бұрын
Norman Watt Roy - legend
@pvkoz86984 жыл бұрын
Norman Wyatt-Roy is an all time absolute monster of a bassist. I mean those in the know like me understand what a tremendous bass line this is from so many perspectives but, as is usual with players of this caliber, there's lots of technical ability, I mean it's just a monster of a bass line, but I also adore how god damn well it fits the song, it enhances the song lyric better than most songs. At first glance in may seem a bass show off, but Norman is waaaay better, way tastier than that and he services the song so well here. Hit Me With Your Rhythm Stick, the bass services the song in a way that's so exceptional in terms of composition. No slapping, the chordal changes and how he uses the instrument to service the song is an absolute lesson in how to do it. One of my fav bass players for sure.
@JerryTremaine3 жыл бұрын
Very well said sir & I agree wholeheartedly..I'll pass this on to Norm post virus nonsense..he's way too modest to agree though..Lovely words..there is the odd slap!.But then again he is an old slapper ...;)
@Birkguitars2 жыл бұрын
@@JerryTremaine I hope that message got through. I am just catching up on this having decided to try to add bass to my guitar repertoire. I chose this song because I loved the bass line so much and am old enough to remember it coming out. Then I almost backed out with the "advanced side of intermediate" comment but what the hell, I may as well start somewhere and I think playing guitar for many years has helped. I have to admit that it is a challenge but I am getting there. Meanwhile I have to add to the praise for NWR. I saw him many years ago at the Tramshed in Woolwich with Wilko Johnson. Just mind-blowing the whole way through. Absolute perfection to back up Johnson's eclectic style of playing which comes back to the idea that not only is he technically brilliant but he is a phenomenal musician and so willing to put the song first. You say he is modest but that may be part of what makes him so great, the ego takes a back seat to what the music needs. It was a privilege to watch him live.
@MrEyesof95 жыл бұрын
3:20 into this I realize, this is how it’s done!!!! You an amazing teacher the language you use is PERFECT.
@gingerfreak015 жыл бұрын
Ska was always about that 16th, it was a way of adding rhythmic dynamism to slower songs, The Specials' bassist (the fantastic Horace Panter - the late 70s were blessed with bassists) used the 16th pause on, notably, Ghost Town. 16th pause on the 2nd bar then completing a 2 beat triplet, then 2 bars later it was a full half-beat rest with, in effect, a two and a half beat quintuplet. Repeated throughout. What is brilliant about Norman Watt-Roy and Horace Panter is the way they combined service to the song, service to the band, service to the genre and service to themselves. Class musicians, we should aspire to service like they have.
@gingerfreak015 жыл бұрын
Blimey, how badly can one get notes and intervals wrong! The pauses are right I think, but nothing's longer than 2 beats. Squeeze triplets and quintuplets into where they should be. Sorry. Ah, just listen, you'll know what I mean. Love you all, it's all there for you if you work hard for it. xxx
@Miguel...1604 жыл бұрын
Nice if he actually mentioned Norman in the vid . Jaco is my bass hero but its Normans solo he's teaching here .
@JerryTremaine3 жыл бұрын
@@Miguel...160 ..Agreed Miguel..I'll let you into a secret...Jaco is Norman's hero too .. ;o)
@PeterPrestonUK10 ай бұрын
How have I only just found this Josh vid? But a bigger question is, how is this song considered obscure? It's probably the best pop song ever released and to this day gets played often on UK radio. The bass line is what turned me onto bass in the first place, all those years ago. Oh, and I'm off to see them live tonight!!!!!!!!!!! If I had a Fender I'd be taking it along in the hope of getting it signed (not sure Norman would sign a Yamaha).
@petertelford80199 жыл бұрын
The best tuition I have seen for this bassline Josh! Clear, precise and with the PDF, easier to learn. I cannot believe that you have 2 'unlikes'....there are some strange people out there.
@PorchBass3 ай бұрын
I go 1,1,3 for the hit me bit. I saw a metal guy doing fast sixteenths with two finger together, using the back side of the fingers for a double stroke. It was really working well in that case. Great analysis
@JamesDavisakaRemguy2 жыл бұрын
Watt-Roy plays this line with 3 fingers of his plucking hand, at least for the quarter-note verses. For the chorus, I believe he uses only two. Check out live versions of the song here on KZbin to see this for yourself. For a(n absolutely brilliant) tutorial on how to do this, check out one of Billy Sheehan's bass lessons, also on KZbin. I know of two short videos on right hand technique exclusively, but he also describes it in his, also excellent, 90-minute "basic bass" video. Sheehan is an excellent teacher, and makes valuable points on plucking in general. He uses this 3-fingered plucking technique extensively in his playing. It might seem like a lot of unnecessary work, but it's actually much quicker and easier than you might think to become at least _fairly_ proficient - it's also kinda fun. And it does make playing this and similar songs MUCH easier. Happy Grooving, fellow bassists.
@tomwillard5246 жыл бұрын
Nice to even acknowledge a good song with unbelievable bass player. I had no idea it was complicated like that.
@max-andrewmcmillan42359 жыл бұрын
that was really good, thank you, I saw Ian many moons ago in Edinburgh Scotland.
@neildeville89616 жыл бұрын
great lesson josh . Even though I am guitarist & part time bass player thanks to you I have now nailed this all time classic bass line .
@lo5man9 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your time with this free lesson and pdf, I've always wanted to learn the classic bass lines but thought it may be too difficult for my skill set. With your fantastic step by step tuition, and my perseverance, it's starting to gel together and I'm smiling from ear to ear :-)) Thanks again man.
@mdwayne741 Жыл бұрын
Josh, you're the man...I only thought you were on Bass Buzz... What a killer bass lesson!!! Subscribed again.
@gavinhobbs38316 жыл бұрын
Wow your fantastic what talent thanx for all the fantastic free tutorials cheers all the way from South Africa..
@burlatsdemontaigne61477 жыл бұрын
Very cool! I have always called that a "pushed" ONE. Didn't know what it it was technically, so thanks for your explanation
@colinscott1473 жыл бұрын
Great subtle drumming lesson Josh as well as top musicality and a great bassist honoured
@timothycliffe30614 жыл бұрын
I am not a bass player, but watched the whole video, and was very impressed. Well done!
@garrybroad87483 жыл бұрын
👍no blab blab ,every word on point ,your action speaks .👍
@ChrisWilliams-cb9kt3 жыл бұрын
Great job! A classic of my youth. As a small aside, for the first time on any yt video I actually found that little down arrow where the pdf was linked. Motivation is the key as Steve Hillage once said. 😂😂😂
@MrPantss2 жыл бұрын
This highlights to complexity of the bass line on this tune
@keithgaffaney80614 жыл бұрын
Thank you very very much for that break down. Saves me a lot of work. Mate very obvious to me that the bass line in this tune is heavily improvised in spots.. Cheers josh be well mate thanks again. Awesome.
@jamfdrums9 жыл бұрын
Outstanding sir, thank you
@Stewkeithmtb5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for actually explaining the theory. Ignore the negative comments, many of us appreciate all your hard work
@srobert23196210 жыл бұрын
Great performance and lesson. Thank you!
@davidfox79833 жыл бұрын
Serious line Josh Good lesson man
@ramonbs60759 жыл бұрын
you'r an awesome teacher! congratulation!!!
@NathanHassall7 жыл бұрын
Im learning!! Im really learning!
@willdunlop49297 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great video and explanation!
@anilkumar-hl1nu8 жыл бұрын
josh i am your subcriber and studend..awesome lesson...thanks you frm India........
@joshfossgreen8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Anil!
@jimbarnett671310 жыл бұрын
Once again, you da man! (did I just say that?)
@MEAZZI66610 жыл бұрын
Nice job thank you :)
@kazerdira47045 жыл бұрын
I think this is one of the song i will never play it even i try 200 years , so fast for me and hard
@keithgaffaney80614 жыл бұрын
Keep at it mate you will get there and learn alot along the way. Good comment mate.
@theskalliwag.89104 жыл бұрын
Same mate.
@Mixen94082 жыл бұрын
Dunno if its true, but heard the story that the bass, drums, rythem guitar and keyboard is recorded live in the studie, and the produceres approach to it was it was more important to capture an feeling rather than playing it right and tight. So maybe that the reason behind the mistake.
@graemerobertson51606 жыл бұрын
The fingering that works for me is to start off with the middle finger, not the index finger. For years I tried to do it starting with the index finger and kept getting in a tangle. Other point to make in my view is to minimise the finger plucking distance by using the amp volume.
@CUSELİSFAN9 жыл бұрын
you seem to really know what you're doing. great job, and thanks.
@Frottagecub7 жыл бұрын
I love your Velvet Underground banana album tattoo :)
@randallh37475 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe you can talk while playing that bassline.... !
@Marklez5 жыл бұрын
Fuck me dude, this was amazing!!
@sirandrelefaedelinoge2 жыл бұрын
The best way to learn is *ALWAYS* by ear.
@alanhug7 жыл бұрын
can you do baroque bordello by the stranglers
@pgpete7 жыл бұрын
10:05 "sub dominant blah blah blah thingy" - lolz
@Abraichan646 жыл бұрын
Can’t find your cover of this tune... great vid by the way..
@joshfossgreen6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, KZbin + record companies decided not to let anyone see it anymore. The best way to promote your songs is to not let people listen to them, apparently.
@JerryTremaine3 жыл бұрын
@@joshfossgreen ....Did you just say 'your song' ? I'll ignore that as some kind of minor freak out on your part lol :o/ ...Nice go on the old bassline though...to play notes can be easy for some..But I'm sure you'll agree that the feel is hard to teach... ;)
@keithmills7783 жыл бұрын
@@JerryTremaine He’s not claiming the song as his own. He’s referring to the record companies. Their song is getting exposed to a new audience through vids like this, but they insist on taking them down.
@JerryTremaine3 жыл бұрын
@@keithmills778 yes...I was joking..hence the 'lol'.......yea ıt's a shame youtube take them down as Norman has no problem with videos like this ;o)
@alejandrohualdez55508 ай бұрын
He looks like the guy off Bassbuzz!!!
@michaelbarbarich39653 ай бұрын
It's him
@theripper16558 жыл бұрын
which bass is that ? please reply
@ewetoo6 жыл бұрын
This is a really helpful lesson for a bassline I still need to nail! Sadly, your cover is blocked in Australia and elsewhere, which is a bit sad.
@joshfossgreen6 жыл бұрын
Yes, such a bummer!
@wysiwyg24898 жыл бұрын
I've read Ian Dury wrote this bass line after watching Jaco perform, not sure if is true but kinda make sense.
@joshfossgreen8 жыл бұрын
+wysiwyg248 Interesting. There's definitely some major Jaco flavor in there. Especially over the Db7 chord in the verse, reminds me of Come On Come Over big time.
@wysiwyg24898 жыл бұрын
+Josh Fossgreen My bad, I wrote Ian Dury when I mean Norman Watt-Roy, the bass player for the Blockheads. Ian's lyrics are awesome, but the bass line belongs to Norm. Sorry about the mistake.
@brendancarthy51204 жыл бұрын
Norman wrote it as nod to Come on come over by Jaco after hearing it on the radio
@rocknrollhippy771 Жыл бұрын
'ahh' , ive always just called the 'snatch'. Works for me, as im not a great theorist. One mans ahh is another mans snatch . It appears ..😝
@flat5sharp115 жыл бұрын
Another peach of a bass line by Watt Roy: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mV65loKXoKx6hrM
@paulevans43347 жыл бұрын
it would help if you turned your bass up, I can barley hear it
@uelude5 жыл бұрын
Would help if you turned your stereo up.
@Boyson668 ай бұрын
You’ve got corn in your ears.
@gw20315 жыл бұрын
Best player for this track bar none but he can talk lol
@joshfossgreen5 жыл бұрын
Ha yes, I practice bass and talking equally. :)
@TAHeap4 жыл бұрын
@@joshfossgreen You may want to check out some of the other stuff Norman Watt Roy has done or composed, .e.g with Clash or with Wilko Johnson. The Blockhead are an almost perfect example of a band whose rhythm gives the rest of the band the freedom to create an amazing and quite complex sound - once you have the drums and bass then the song is pretty much there already and everybody else can concentrate what they do best creatively. The video of 'I wanna be Straight' is good example. It's also interesting to compare the studio and some of the live versions of 'Sweet Gene Vincent: the stuff he adds in only standard rock'n'roll sequences, but it could easily have sounded too clumsy whereas he manages to dance through sounding fluent and light on his feet. I'm guessing the studio version was simpler so as not to break completely with the sound of the era of the real Gene Vincent, which would probably have been more straight 4.
@Chrisamusic14 жыл бұрын
Just one thought, if you cant figure out naturally where to come in on the beat, then this bassline is too advanced for you.
@jamesmurphy13895 жыл бұрын
strange to have fingers that will do that for you. I can open a can.
@kazerdira47045 жыл бұрын
This is 3 months , did you make it , i have a week and i still couldn t make the first bar haha so fast for me
@johnlennon64916 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell what the purpose of telling us all the stuff at the beginning? I just don’t get it ?
@projectducttape_156910 жыл бұрын
.first and very helpful
@gideonsikk87335 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool u say. . u Americans. Canadian whatever. norman watt. is our bootsy
@FallatioNelson9 жыл бұрын
I'm complete shite compared to you but.... why don't you play the fill starting on the E string?? it would make the fill sound much clearer and you don't have to do an awkward 16th shift. Just an observation.
@philmoseley22598 жыл бұрын
+FellatioNelson You wouldn't want to play it with open strings - you'd just lose control with the 16th notes. It's the right hand that is the hardest bit in this song, not the left. Besides, the song is not in the key of E - so why would you want to play it there?
@graemerobertson51607 жыл бұрын
This parts not to challenging ..! Wrong, this is the hardest part of the riff! You are right about not being able to do three notes on the same finger. But doing that sixteenth note fingering is a challenging technique. If you did a close up slowed down of the right hand, it would have been a much better tutorial.
@SteveGouldinSpain6 жыл бұрын
FYI can't see the performance...this video contains content from SME who have blocked it on copyright grounds! (I'm in Spain BTW). Shame SME have it in mind that the music they own the copyright to can become even more popular and coverted by removing it from public view. Morons.
@joshfossgreen6 жыл бұрын
Yep, that happened quite a while ago. And I agree.
@harold-sweat-head81118 жыл бұрын
Your fingers are longer than Norway.
@neilwilliams44206 жыл бұрын
Harold-Sweat-Head lol 😂
@krbmsw3 жыл бұрын
Alien fingers. Seriously.
@soulbass27146 жыл бұрын
Jamerson can
@paolozak30143 жыл бұрын
NORMAN WATT-ROY ...not "the bass player", please
@jakmak11992 жыл бұрын
Yeah at least give him a shout out
@mickybiggs72567 жыл бұрын
not bad....bit too much chat not enough practical showing......like maybe play the whole thing first.. ? and break it into sections ? obviously know your stuff , but too much chat is boring..so you end up flicking through the vid....
@terrytickler6 жыл бұрын
Its 100% free and awesome
@spookybaba3 жыл бұрын
You talk too much, Kid. I got fed up and sacked you off.
@baldyslapnut.3 жыл бұрын
...but had time to spare for a comment 🤡
@spookybaba3 жыл бұрын
@@baldyslapnut. Yeah! What of it, Ball Bag? You wanna start something? Go find your corn nut.
@justinandsheba3 жыл бұрын
@@baldyslapnut. That's what I noticed as well.
@ritzy123456 жыл бұрын
Zzzzz
@MrSandalwood3 жыл бұрын
Your so wrong go back and listern carefully
@thomimarshall5 жыл бұрын
TOO MUCH TALKIN
@geraldsowder57274 жыл бұрын
Need to find someone that talks alot less.
@grumpy84135 ай бұрын
What an atrocious lesson.
@ThunnusAlbacares6 жыл бұрын
The first 4 1/2 mins its pure waffle. Got a headache from it ...
@eddypfunk9 жыл бұрын
Seriously why spend 15 minutes talking when you could have done this in 5?
@joshfossgreen9 жыл бұрын
+Ed Phillis I look forward to seeing the video where you thoroughly explain how to play and understand the theory behind this song in 5 minutes! :)
@willb36988 жыл бұрын
Yes - And thanks for spending the time. The difference between playing by rote and understanding what we are playing - Even by throwing in the scale used helps everyone - even if it's just to google "pentatonic" or something. I had a question unrelated to the music - what is the foot pedal metronome / drum machine you are using? It's funny - as a Brit to hear Ian Dury and the Blockheads as "Obscure". I realise why of course.
@joshfossgreen8 жыл бұрын
I use Ableton Live for most of my drum machine stuff, but I barely know how to use it!