HMS Brilliant 1995 episode 6

[@minimad8793]

That Joss was always on a power trip. guilty till proven innocent.

[@davidlawton7845]

The Captain isn’t supposed to hear the evidence before the table commences and listens to the evidence as it’s presented. Squadron Sgt Major HMS FEARLESS 1993-1997.

[@jimmacpherson8706]

The SLt aircrew was Nick Cooke-Priest, the son of my old CO of HMS Plymouth, who later achieved flag rank and I used to correspond with him via e-mail after he retired and I was living in Oz.His on, Nick, who was born in Australia while his father was on exchange with the RAN, was the second CO of the new carrier, HMS Queen Elizabeth after Jerrt Kydd.Nick's naval career was cut short after he was accused of using the ship's car for his own purposes and he eventually resigned.I think it was a huge loss of a talented officer to the RN.

[@NickL5980]

He broke the rules and no doubt there was more to it than the RN released. Agree it was a loss to the RN but it was a terrible lack of judgement on his part and left the Higher ups little choice but to remove him. As far as I know he chose to retire rather than take a desk job. Only has himself to blame.

[@888ssss]

he was using the ships car to smuggle tobacco out of gibraltar.

[@damianroddis4301]

He did use the ships car and a mod fuel card to fill it up and I was told he even took it on a family holiday. Nobody leaves that type of job unless they are guilty as charged.

[@nigelwatkins558]

A good example of military "justice" pre trailed !!!

[@garryseery3865]

At 22.23 it’s stated that the Summary Authority already knows what the punishment will be. This is correct. When reviewing the evidence, prior to formally charging the ‘offender’, the Cox’n will 42:33 write up the recommended punishment/s to be awarded should the ‘offender’ be found guilty. This was done to ensure that a fair and consistent approach to punishment was followed by the Summary Authority. During my time in the Naval Police Investigation Section the Naval Police and Cox’ns branch never charged anyone unless there was overwhelming evidence the ‘guilty bastard’ was guilty! We felt that it was not only a waste of our time to proceed with charges that may fail, but was a waste of the relevant Summary Authorities (OOD’s / XO’s / CO’s) time.

[@alanlane3670]

Captain's table...been there, done that !!! As a defendant and later as a prosecutor....!!!

[@DaveJMcGarry]

For me, just been there. Fuck prosecuting! Failure to show for duty. Even though the oppo i was covering for had said he would be there. (he wasn't) 5 days 9's

[@alanlane3670]

@@DaveJMcGarry I got 14 days 9's.......nearly killed me !!!!

[@CARLIN4737]

youd be in tears after the 11 months i got in court martial and served at MCTC, Colchester.@@alanlane3670

[@davidlawton7845]

Admit nothing , deny everything , make the prosecution work for their pay !

[@davearnott8090]

"March the guilty bastard in Sergeant Major" 🙄

[@boulecoq1700]

When you plead not guilty in the navy the regulators shite themselves coz they’re always expecting a guilty plea. They don’t know what to do. I did it and got my case admonished. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@johnnunn8688]

It’s difficult to make out the PO’s name but by reading lips, I think it’s Whatmuff.

[@johnnunn8688]

PO Whatmuff, cried like a child and was sobbing? Jeepers, he must be well liked in the mess! 🤣😂🤣😂

[@CARLIN4737]

A mess.

[@whynot64928]

Is just me but don't warships look odd without a 4.5 up forward ?

[@hiram6585]

Is there an episode 5?

[@_year-sb6sy]

The start of this episode appears to begin where the previous episode (4) ended , so Im pretty sure this is actually episode 5 but its been marked as episode 6 :)

[@mattneale3128]

@@_year-sb6sy Agreed

[@markadams738]

I expect the PO Tiff was not a popular shipmate

[@johnnunn8688]

If I had cried like a baby, every time I was called a wanker, I would have died of dehydration years ago 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂.

[@markadams738]

@@johnnunn8688 well said. You ex pusser ??

[@johnnunn8688]

@@markadams738, no, RAF. (You may now call me a wanker)

[@markadams738]

@@johnnunn8688 Lol. Nah. Crab will do for today. You can bet your bottom dollar that the killick was being given the " I'm earning more than you and I'm only 12 from the Tiff " routine . Hey ho . Life in a blue suit.

[@johnnunn8688]

@@markadams738 you couldn’t be more righter.

[@jamesgreen3417]

To think Brilliant/Dodsworth has been scrapped 11 years now

[@dave3201]

Where is episode 5

[@gregghull1518]

As a Petty Officer in the US Navy during this timeframe I was surprised and a bit put off by this "British Naval Justice Aboard" business. It all seemed a bit petty and overrated, involving, as it did, so many senior staff officers. (Including the Skipper?! Really?) I'm sure there's much I don't understand about British Naval Custom and Tradition, and I certainly don't mean to take anything away from that glorious naval service that both gave birth to, and largely influenced, the formation of my *own* country's Navy, nor do I mean to make light of insubordination and the absolute havoc that tolerance of such can wreak on critical command and control functions. It's just that in the US Navy this kind of an affair - namely an altercation between two similarly ranked enlisted personnel (I understand that there was some difference in rank, but it was hardly a Seaman punching an Admiral) - is almost *always* handled at Branch level by our Chief (senior) Petty Officers. In many ways it's far worse for the culprits 'cuz you *DO NOT* want to piss a Chief off, believe me. But the point is that this insulating layer of jurisprudence largely keeps the Officer class - who decidedly *do not* understand enlisted culture by and large - from having to be involved and mucking things up. Lastly, any Petty Officer in the US Navy who ratted out a shipmate for "slapping" him and "calling him a mean name" while ashore on leave would be laughed overboard. There are *many* more preferable, er..."nonjudicial" steps that can be employed to rectify these petty little offenses, and if those don't work then that's why we have "smokers:" official, yet "unofficial" boxing matches where rank is left outside the ropes and men settle their differences inside the ropes. I dunno, the whole thing just seemed kinda "bitch" to me.

[@minimad8793]

the Senior rate wasn't a proper PO as a real one would have already sorted this issue out the next day.

[@gregghull1518]

@@minimad8793 Are you a RN vet? (Or active service?) If so, thank you so much for your reply; I felt a significant degree of relief in hearing that the Royal Navy (an important ally of my country) isn't so petty as this documentary makes it appear. I get it: many "official" films depicting life in my own US Navy bears precious little resemblance to the reality of life aboard a US warship. It's good to know that British sailors are still men. Go Navy.

[@mikeharvey1042]

I watched this as a kid and I don't remember how crappy this woman singing is

[@bodazephyr6629]

Yes, why did they choose that when there are loads of good sea shanties or maritime tunes that they could have used 😂

[@nigelwatkins558]

Should have been trialed !