HMS Dreadnought: The Battleship that Changed Naval Warfare... in 1906

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[@Zach-ku6eu]

#Simonisacoward Why so many channels? He's spreading his bets. More advertising money from Russian companies. That's why he's such a limey coward who won't post anything about Ukraine!!

[@Thurgosh_OG]

You say "another English warship" @ 13:53 but the Royal Navy had been British, not English, for over 200 years at that point. I notice quite a lot of English folk (even friends of mine) say 'English', when they mean 'British' and I'm sure this adds to the resentment that the 3 other British Countries feel towards England.

[@mikemike974]

8.32 You got this backwards. Only one turret forward on the centreline, and two on the rear. The front turret was higher as the bows were taller than the rear of the ship to keep everything dry in heavy weather.

[@Prophetofthe8thLegion]

AND THE DREADNOUGHTS DREAD NOTHING AT ALL!!!

[@_Hodgepodge]

"Unopposed under crimson skies. Immortalized, over time their legend will rise. And their foes can't believe their eyes, Believe their size, as they fall. And the dreadnoughts dread nothing at all!"

[@marckilgour5258]

I came for this

[@thatcontrollerguy5838]

@@marckilgour5258 Me too

[@theunknownwarrior632]

A Hull of Steel and all big guns to serve the fleet Unrival FIREPOWER, riding the waves to war A devastating blow will send their foes down below Fearless Armada now bombarding their shore Light up the night when cannons roar In fear of nothing They lead the navy into warrr

[@Prophetofthe8thLegion]

Ah yes a fellow man of culture.

[@Prophetofthe8thLegion]

Light up the night when cannons roar In fear of nothing, they lead the navy into war!

[@Fortunes.Fool.]

“Castles of Steel” by Robert Massie is a fantastic book to read about what happened to naval development after this ship launched.

[@andywilson5828]

I have both Dreadnought and Castles of steel by RM, and I agree amazing books. I got them to learn more about the ship my great grandfather was on (HMS Queen Elizabeth). What I also discovered was how much an idiot Churchill was for letting Kitchener bully him into a land attack instead of one final push up the Dardanelles ( which I agree would of succeeded... they were so close....)

[@BaronessErsatz]

I bought a copy of that for my then-husband. To hear HIM talk, it was the only good thing to come out of our marriage. Both of our beautiful daughters would take issue with that, suffice to say.

[@andywilson5828]

@David Howard thanks for the titles. Will look them up

[@CristinaMarshal]

Thank you kindly.

[@torbjornnorberg3713]

@@andywilson5828 .

[@nathanielmeade5731]

Unopposed under crimson skies Immortalized over time Their legend will rise And their foes can't believe their eyes Believe their size As they fall AND THE DREADNOUGHTS DREAD NOTHING AT ALL

[@TeganRhodes]

A shadow moves across the water in pursuit It splits the waves, commands the sea and defies the wind Instilling fear among its prey, feels nought for itself Ahead the sea lies calm awaiting the storm Displace the water in its path Reveal the cannons, align the guns, unleash their wrath!

[@milanorlovszki6189]

I dont think its a coincidence that this video came out 4 days after "The warto end all wars" album release

[@theunknownwarrior632]

In the North Sea, lies Jutland the stage for the biggest naval battle of the war. In the mist uncovered by darkness 2 mighty fleets are approaching. They are led by a new class of battleship, one that fears nothing. The dreadnought! (sabaton, dreadnought history version)

[@nightruler666]

Unopposed under crimson skies Immortalized, over time their legend will rise And their foes can't believe their eyes, believe their size, as they fall And the dreadnoughts dread nothing at all

[@josephradley3160]

From "The ship that makes other battleships obsolete" to "Battleships. Nobody wants those anymore. Carriers are the future." 50 years

[@zerixor8134]

Unopposed under crimson skies Immortalized over time Their legend will rise And their foes can't believe their eyes Believe their size as they fall And the Dreadnoughts dread nothing at all

[@puppetguy8726]

It's a great shame the British didn't push for an exception for HMS Dreadnought in the Washington naval treaty so that she could be preserved as a museum ship. 😕

[@CaptainRudy4021]

To be fair, people rarely see history in the making until it's already been made.

[@puppetguy8726]

@@CaptainRudy4021 The Japanese did with Mikasa

[@stephenchappell7512]

@@puppetguy8726 Which is the now the sole surviving 'British Battleship'

[@SephirothRyu]

@@CaptainRudy4021 They didn't keep the Warspite either.

[@commodorezero]

@@puppetguy8726 And the US did with Oregon and Olympia even if they later stupidly scrapped Oregon. That's what this makes this the most tragic. In many cases the UK cries about circumstance when people complain about them destroying all their ships. "We had no money wah, it was the great depression wah". But in this case they went out of their way to destroy Dreadnought(or whatever ship would have gotten that spot Dreadnought is the most likely candidate) as it made sense to copy the other 2 major naval powers and create a museum ship. The closest thing to a major vessel from this era to survive is the Caroline. The only reason Caroline survived is because it almost served 100 years at which point the British had so fully cleansed the world of all their historical vessels.

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

The Dreadnaught Hoax would make for a great episode of Today I Found Out. The personalities that pulled off the hoax and their friends were some of the most fascinating writers and intellectuals of the age.

[@davidthompson6834]

Spell dreadnought correctly dear boy

[@ssokolow]

In the mean time, at least Zepherus did one on it... and one on the Zanzibar hoax that preceded it.

[@mitchellneu]

🎵Unopposed under crimson skies Immortalized over time, their legend will rise And their foes can’t believe their eyes, believe their size as they fall And the Dreadnoughts dread nothing at all🎵 “Dreadnought” by Sabaton

[@Reinforce_Zwei]

AND THE DREADNOUGHTS DREAD NOTHING AT ALL \o/

[@lucajohnen6719]

I was just listening to it

[@TiernanWilkinson]

Dreadnought is such a fantastic name for a ship, and the class gave birth to the modern idea of what constitutes a 'battleship.' Though capital ships have moved on in favor of aircraft carriers, the Dreadnought class and their successors live on in our hearts, and in the last Super Dreadnought still afloat (more or less at times) the USS Texas. Fitting that these behemoths of steel armor and guns have a song on Sabaton's new album, and good timing on this video regarding them!

[@DaveSCameron]

Bit of a history fan on the side I see my good man, you are kitted out with the standard English vox and a fine grasp of the platform and I wish you all the very best. ☘️

[@AngryCanine]

anyone else listening to Sabaton - Dreadnought and see this in the recommended list? don't know why I didn't see this in my sub feed, but glad it came up in the recommended list eventually

[@Liontamer-gj4xw]

One interesting thing about her guns was that they were taken from the Lord Nelsion class pre-dreadnought's under construction.

[@kl0wnkiller912]

'Jacky' Fisher was quite a guy. Rough and gritty it was his efforts that account mostly for the rapid construction of HMS Dreadnaught. He pushed construction and did anything possible to speed construction, like taking the guns from the Two Lord Nelson class ships under construction rather than waiting for Dreadnaughts to be made. More importantly though was his total rebuild of training of naval officers and cadets, eliminating the old 'wind and sail, pomp and circumstance' training and replacing it with engine sciences and more modern skills. Jacky said once that he expected officers to understand every inch of the ships they commanded as good as any rate... He would make a good biography!

[@MortRotu]

I'll suggest Drachinifel's video on the man if you're that interested

[@kl0wnkiller912]

@@MortRotu Thanks already saw it. I read his Biography.

[@MortRotu]

@@kl0wnkiller912 then it's probably a useful recommendation for anybody else who's also interested =P

[@15Bravo]

Operating the main cannons in the dreadnought in battlefield 1 multiplayer is so fun. Level entire buildings to dust and evaporate whole squads of the other team

[@Joze1090]

Yeeessss that was my favorite role in the game

[@peppje22]

Treeee

[@williamcote4208]

Note: the ship in BF1 is actually the HMS Iron Duke

[@itz_ex0_279]

A shadow moves across the water in pursuit. It splits the waves, commands the seas and defies the wind.

[@rickcs7050]

Instilling fear among its prey, feels nought for itself Ahead the sea lies calm awaiting the storm

[@williamerickson1238]

FYI: There is still one 'DREADNAUGHT' vintage battleship still around. Though not British, the USS TEXAS is a museum ship in Galveston TX USA

[@JackBWatkins]

Thank you for Posting about the Texas to set the record straight.

[@robertwalker9130]

Excellent presentation, compact , I very much enjoy your videos.

[@jakefinke5505]

Simon I am in Nebraska it’s not so bad here. Low crime and lots of beer!

[@adamspitz4281]

Over time, the legend will rise. And their foes can’t believe their eyes! Believe the size!

[@patrik5123]

This coincides so well with Sabaton's latest album release.

[@gearhead2255]

A fellow person of culture I see

[@ranekeisenkralle8265]

Glad I am not the only one who got that thought.

[@nevertrustbob1]

I think I recall Simon saying he's listened to the band before so maybe he planned on it

[@patrik5123]

@@nevertrustbob1 probably coincidence tbh. There's a significant overlap between people who listen to Sabaton and people who watch any sort of military history :) in other words, you're more likely to find people here that would know about the latest album release, and therefore notice this "coincidence".

[@em1osmurf]

when young, i enrolled in the naval officer's Marine Engineering correspondence course (i was an e-3 fireman). it was an astonishing eye-opener, and gave me a background understanding of warships, and their operation that i carried for my entire career. every time i see lots of armor and heavy armament, i puzzle how the damm things don't turn turtle. good vid!

[@adrianjorgensen3750]

All always remember the first time I saw a painting of Dreadnought. It was love at first sight.

[@randomobserver8168]

I wouldn't mind a video on how the electro-mechanical systems of that era actually worked- the fire control tables and range finders, the ship's communications from station to station, and so on. Like, how DID the FCT actually coordinate the battery fire?

[@Chris-fu4xg]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZO7qnSwfNl8jpo Try that, but I warn you that KZbin channel is a black hole if naval history is your thing.

[@SephirothRyu]

@@Chris-fu4xg Fellow Drachy fan! Ahoy!

[@Chris-fu4xg]

@@SephirothRyu oh yes, just about kept me going all through lockdown.

[@saladinbob]

Should follow this up with the Super Dreadnoughts that replaced and surpassed this class five years after being built.

[@vojtechslezak4553]

3:55 1 corection about the Japanese Ship. All the guns were 12inch but the barel/caliber wasn’t the same. I think they did replace the short guns later on tho i am not sure🤔

[@Riceball01]

Simon, I could be mistaken, but I have a feeling that the X in Mark X is the Roman numeral 10 and not hte letter X.

[@alyssinwilliams4570]

I have this book, "The Dreadnought", from those old time-life book series. I've devoured at least a score of times since the early 90s, and its what prompted my love of modern military ships and modern naval warfare history. I'm looking forward to this video :D :D

[@ianashby6294]

Really interested in battleships from 1905 to the end of ww2

[@pervertfudge]

is it that book written by Robert K. Massie? if it is such an awsome book.

[@alyssinwilliams4570]

@@pervertfudge Im not sure who wrote it, it was part of a hard cover series from Time magazine in the early 80s. if I find it I will hopefully remember to update

[@mikehintz]

I read that book as well. Jackie Fisher also forsaw the rise of airpower as the deciding force in naval warfare. He even said to scrap all ships, and replace them with planes.

[@alyssinwilliams4570]

@@mikehintz He was right about a lot of things, but not really that one. The planes have to be able to get places afterall!

[@gaufrid1956]

HMS Dreadnought lives on at Tier III on World of Warships. The low tiers are full of dreadnought battleships.

[@matthewbittenbender9191]

Whatever you can say about this ship it's most badass feature was its name.

[@tarquilkorris2563]

A shadow moves across the water in pursuit It splits the waves commands the sea and defies the wind

[@rickcs7050]

Instilling fear among its prey, feels nought for itself Ahead the sea lies calm awaiting the storm

[@crazyeyez1502]

"12in guns and 20knts" . Crazy how quickly ships evolved from there. 1942 you have 16in guns and 35knts.

[@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts]

Same with the Great White Fleet of the US Navy. It was an impressive assortment of battleships as an upgrade to the Navy's capabilities, which were obsolete as soon as the HMS Dreadnought set sail

[@scotth6814]

Yes, despite several naval treaties to try to slow or stop the escalation of battleship growth.

[@JoshuaTootell]

Don't forget those 18.1" that existed...for a little while.

[@foddersfollies7494]

Why does everyone always ignore the fact that Dreadnought receives the credit for changing naval history simply because the British rushed it into service and not because it was a good design. BB-26 was designed and approved before Dreadnought, and was better in almost every category. Dreadnought was faster, and that's pretty much it. There's a reason every modern battleship followed the South Carolina design. All big guns, super firing, and along the centerline.

[@IO-hh2fz]

Also, Dreadnougt used turbine engines, the South Carolina's used triple expansion engines. And yeah, the British do heve some of the best names around for their capital ships, and Dreadnougt is a stand out even amoungst them.

[@ME262MKI]

I got the feeling this episode was done because Sabaton's last song "Dreadnought"

[@definitelydelish]

Love all these Channels. I feel I don't think I have enough time in the day to watch everyone one I want some times and that there's not enough of them I need to devour in a steady stream other times. Keep up the amazing work Simon.

[@angrydoggy9170]

8:40 having been pretty close to a 10 inch gun firing, I wouldn’t like being one of the gunners of those guns on top of the turret.

[@MoultrieGeek]

The rooftop 12 pounders were only manned when the main battery was not expected to fire and for a very good reason: the resulting concussion would have done serious damage to anything or anybody close by.

[@177SCmaro]

I'm an American but even I must admit that, had war depended exclusively on the awesomeness of naming ships Britian would still rule the world.

[@markrowland1366]

Bloody hell. Mark 10, guns . The DO X, WAS THE Dornier ten Seaplane. Has no one under the age of fifty learner Roman numerals?

[@BlackHearthguard]

At 8:30 that's not too forward, one aft turret, those are two aft and one forward, well, one aft and one mid rather than 2 aft I suppose. And the wing turrets are port and starboard of the superstructure, not port and aft :)

[@albionguy1]

My Great Grandfather was the first Chief Stoker , apparently even helped in the design of the engine room...

[@Evolution_Kills]

Every time someone quotes the 'War. War never changes." line from Fallout, it needs to be rebutted with 'The Dreadnought Effect'.

[@pringle239]

Aaaaarrrrrrdddvaaaaarrrkkk

[@Evolution_Kills]

@@pringle239 Justice for my boi!

[@jfangm]

The "Dreadnought Effect" is entirely mythical. The U.S., Germany, and Japan had similar designs already on the slipways before Dreadnought's keel was even designed. Jackie Fisher simply managed to push Dreadnought through before anyone else's ships launched. Ultimately, the "dreadnought" race was inevitable, driven by factors outside a single ship.

[@pringle239]

@@jfangm right... Japans and Americas "dreadnought" were "semi-dreadnoughts" at best and Germany was also hideously inefficient.

[@jfangm]

@@pringle239 Actually, only Japan's was considered a semi-dreadnought. The USS South Carolina was a true dreadnought. I suggest watching Drachifel's video on it. Dreadnought was not novel or revolutionary.

[@randomobserver8168]

Anyone ever have KZbin arbitrarily unsubscribe them from channels? I could have sworn I was subscribed to all Simon's channels in this universe, including this one. Not the first time I've had this question, either.

[@keck2001]

So when are doing a video on the USS Texas since she's the only remain Dreadnought class of Battleship in the world?

[@joshuaradick5679]

One of history's greatest cases of unintended consequences

[@corsica931]

All i remember is battlefield 1 hearing, “ The enemies are being reinforced by a Dreadnought.”

[@CCP-Lies]

It's the HMS Iron Duke 1912

[@greggweber9967]

1:11 And England. England had a start of one but wanted to keep its lead above the next two.

[@simonjackson7269]

Royal Navy ship of the Dreadnought era and after didn't carry "cannons" they had rifled guns, (cannons are smooth bore)

[@OhYeaMista]

8:30….correction, the right side of screen is the bow of the ship.

[@302racing3]

I swear this man will cover every battleship except the Iowa. Still a great video tho

[@Axonteer]

bc iowa is overcovered :D

[@jfangm]

@Steve Lawson Iowa is NOT a battlecruiser, rather she and her sisters are full-fledged battleships. The Iowas simply represented a new generation of high-speed battleships that were being built by nearly everyone at the time. A battlecruiser is more than just a fast battleship.

[@jfangm]

@Steve Lawson It doesn't matter if you disagree. It is not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of historical fact. The Iowas were not battlecruisers, they were battleships, plain and simple. The U.S. Navy never considered them battlecruisers, nor did any other power in the world. Nor did they fill the role of battlecruisers: scouting for enemy battieships and engaging enemy cruisers - they were purpose built to engage Japanese battleships. You need to learn your terms before opening your mouth.

[@randomobserver8168]

Well, I was fairly aware of the outlines of this story but you covered a lot of ground here, working in not only the innovation of having an 'all big gun' main battery, but those of fire control computers and other electro-mechanicals, the new size of the ship as well as the engine power and speed. Excellent coverage! I was struck by the overhaul in which one of the improvements was to reroute wires to less vulnerable areas. That gives Dreadnought a peculiarly modern feel in this age of vital electrical, hydraulic or digital connections being the lifelines of any ship- puts her more in company with the constant battle travails of the fictional starship Enterprise than with the vessels of the age of sail, so nearer to Dreadnought in time.

[@jfangm]

Dreadnought was not THAT innovative - Germany and the U.S. had their own "dreadnoughts" on the slipways before Dreadnought's keel was even laid. The concept was based on an existing and well-known naval treatise - it was simply a matter of time before SOMEBODY launched an all-big-gun battleship.

[@maxpayne2574]

The pre-dreadnoughts were very interesting, particularly the French tumblehome designs.

[@aaronbasham6554]

Ah yes, the hotels

[@Bird_Dog00]

"Interesting" is one way to describe them... Some designs were truly hidious.

[@wildkarrde3370]

When hotels go to war.

[@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts]

The Great White Fleet comes to mind. A video exploring them and their obsolescence by the HMS Dreadnoughtt would be pretty cool.

[@gabrielho1874]

Dreadnought before dreadnought, emphasizing the "dread" in appearance and "nought" in beauty.

[@aaronschaefer4167]

For the amount of money and time put into dreadnoughts after the first was build, this should definitely not be a side project but a magaproject

[@radretro3777]

Would be cool to see a video about the best wooden ships that there ever were and their exploits in combat.

[@pozzowon]

USS Constitution comes to mind.

[@vB34styy]

Drachinifel might be a channel you want to check out, extensively covers age of sail ships to ww2 ships

[@MortRotu]

Second the Drach recommendation and I'll raise the odds for Constitution with HMS Victory.

[@jfangm]

Best is a matter of perspective. Victory has an unmatched combat record, but Viking longships were more influential on world history.

[@bobhill3941]

Amazing video considering I just listened to Sabaton's new song of the same name. Thanks for the history lesson. I had no idea it was British and from WW1. I always thought it was German from the second world war!

[@adub1300]

“She was undergoing refit during the largest naval battles of the war” that’s the most British/American government thing I’ve ever heard. “Yeah let’s spend a fuck ton of money on this incredible weapon and then not even use it when we need it”

[@ignitionfrn2223]

1:20 - Chapter 1 - Concept & development 5:00 - Chapter 2 - Construction 6:10 - Mid roll ads 7:20 - Chapter 3 - Designs elements & propulsion 8:25 - Chapter 4 - Guns 9:40 - Chapter 5 - Fire control 10:45 - Chapter 6 - Armor 11:50 - Chapter 7 - Trials & services

[@brucegibbins3792]

Dreadnought means being afraid of nothing. By their actions we shall know them. A warship class that lived up to its name.

[@pedrorocha4817]

"And the dreadnoughts dread nothing at all"

[@zackakai5173]

And this is why I respect Simon's content. Normally channels that don't specialize in naval history make *all* kinds of errors, get terminology wrong, etc, when they talk about the subject, but this video was pretty spot on.

[@wildkarrde3370]

He messes up here and there in some of his videos about ships but I blame his writers for not doing the appropriate amount of research or trying to cram it all in a short video so I don't blame Simon.

[@itsnotwhatyouthink]

UNOPPOSED UNDER CRIMSON SKIES, IMMORTALIZED OVER TIME THEIR LEGEND WILL RISE. AND THEIR FOES CAN'T BELIEVE THEIR EYES, BELIEVE THEIR SIZE AS THEY FALL, THE DREADNOUGHTS DREAD NOTHING AT ALL.

[@markhough1027]

I love to see a vid on the Cork harbour fort systems.

[@Tearsofsoil]

Aircraft carriers and submarines have made such big warships redundant. Nuclear powered subs and nuclear powered aircraft carriers with small and destroyers in a armada can destroy army of such super dreadnoughts.

[@gunwerksfanmcclellan6984]

I think you got spun around on the turret placement there... ship's bow is to the right on screen. She could fire 6 guns forward, 8 broadside.

[@FaTDawG604]

FYI Your surf shark add, Toronto - Canada is in Canada, not Europe...

[@ripsnorter185]

Idk why but the name Dreadnought is just goddamn cool on so many levels.

[@avnrulz8587]

I wonder if 'Mark X' should have been read as "Mark 10'.

[@dereks1264]

Battleships missed their window of opportunity because of the development of aircraft carriers, among other reasons, but they were still beautiful to look at.

[@MortRotu]

As with all navel battleships I'll recommend the video that Drachinifel has done on said ship for anybody who wants a bit more depth on the vessel

[@bearzilla2462]

And for corrections to this video's MANY factual errors on this subject. Seriously, does this guy even bother fact checking his script?

[@paulschmitt4143]

"... and the Dreadnoughts dread nothing at all!"

[@hanisk2]

So, I got surf shark but it didn't fix living in Nebraska like you said it would Ian.

[@loupiscanis9449]

Thank you 🐺

[@boqndimitrov8693]

there was an idea that Lord Nelson's class ships would become the first British dreadnoughts, but it was rejected.Later, two of the gun turrets designed for them were mounted on the Dreadnought in order to complete it faster.Thus, in a strange way, parts of the ships still turn out to be part of the dreadnought revolution.

[@Vantablack_25]

This dude is everywhere and covers everything 😂

[@christianflores2920]

You should be one documentary on wojtek the soldier bear.

[@davidwhite9159]

What do you mean by Mark X guns? The correct name is Mark 10, which you should know as us British love using Roman Numerals, eg. the SMLE Mk I, Mk II & Mk III/III* was in fact Mk 1, Mk 2 & Mk3/3*!

[@radmain]

It's like Simon listened to Sabaton and went, release that video! Fair play

[@wildkarrde3370]

She was the only battleship to ever sink a submarine.

[@kineuhansen8629]

but you can visit one dreadnought type ship called texas

[@puppetguy8726]

That's kind of like getting a Pepsi when you really want a coca-cola 😜

[@dr.ryttmastarecctm6595]

So many weapons systems become obsolete quickly. This was possible because of the industrial capacity of many nation-states.

[@TheAMadMan]

The audio for intros and transitions and such has always been really harsh sounding to me and I finally figured out why. It needs a touch of reverb

[@NATObait]

HMS Dreadnought was christened with a bottle of Australian Wine......does anyone know the producer of this wine?? 🇦🇺🇬🇧🍾

[@MrTexasDan]

They probably mean the same thing, but I believe most navies and our favorite naval historians prefer the term gun rather than cannon.

[@A_p_T53040]

Cannons are usually muzzle loading. Guns are breach loading.

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

Long as we're here (on nautical firearm terminology)... There's an interesting detail about the actual notation for naval guns, as opposed to similar terms for almost every other firearm or similar device in the world... The "big" guns come with two numbers and notations (at least, in the U.S. Navy)... rather than just a "12 inch gun"... It's popularly a "12 inch 50 caliber"... The "12 inch" part refers to the size of projectile and related barrel, from groove to groove in the rifling, 12 inches across... The "50 caliber" relates to the barrel length, which has to do with powder requirements, muzzle energy, and effective range of the thing... AND it indicates 50 "calibers" long, so you multiply 50 x 12 inches (effectively equivalent to 1 foot) to get 600 inches, or 50 feet long from breech to muzzle... Other popular "big" guns included the 3 and 5 inch 50 calibers, considered "big" because it requires more than one man to load, aim, and fire the thing... technically speaking... in a combat effective manner. Commonly (at least since they were originally produced and used) the Browning M2 and M2HB .50 caliber machine guns were (and are) employed on war-ships for use against smaller vessels and aircraft as well, but these fire the same half-inch or .50 ammunition from chain/belt feeds that any other machine gun or "50 caliber rifle" would use... Finally, there were (and are as far as I know) metric weapon designs, including the 25 mm, which is a considerably heavier permanently mounted weapon than the Browning M2, and is referred to as a "25 mike-mike" by most Naval personnel. It's a dubiously obscure set of details, but as long as we're sharing terminology and some of the "what it really means" around here... we can cover a bit more than guns being breech loaded while cannon are muzzle loaded... You might find it all interesting. ;o)

[@fukkitful]

@@gnarthdarkanen7464 Always thought 50 cal just meant it was .50". Learn something new everyday.

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

@@fukkitful Yup... It's a different terminology at sea... Kinda thought it was interesting enough to share. If you happen to find an old version of the "Blue Jacket's Manual" it's the book given out at Navy Bootcamp for every recruit to read through (and hopefully learn) in the earliest months/years of his enlistment... There's some interesting information in there if you're interested... depending on the "era" of the publication... and your focus on historical contexts... ;o)

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

@Steve Lawson I'd suspected, but as I was never trained to be a tank commander (or gunner) I wasn't sure... AND while technically, you are correct, in actual speech with a sailor (at least a US Navy sailor), it's often going to be said "3 inch 50 caliber" when referring to a single gun... otherwise, a "3 inch 50" is a popular short-hand... AND I was trying to be specific to verbal communications... It's helpful when learning in conversation, and the "jump" isn't so big if someone starts reading the technical books and publications. ;o)

[@stevphenrose7820]

The effect of the Battleship was more smoke and mirrors than reality. Many ships were built but how many achieved very much. The real significance change was the aircraft carrier. Relegated the battleship to history.

[@ericmcconnaughey2782]

One thing I've never seen anywhere; how do 'x-pounder' relate to barrel size? Does anyone know?

[@Bird_Dog00]

Originaly it was projectile weight. As in a 24-punder fired a 24 imperial punds iron ball. That ofc defined the diameter of the bore. Later - as in post-industrial revolution - I think "x-pounder" could also refer to the the propellant charge, but I'm realy not sure about that.

[@danfinnegan2669]

I believe it was also part of Jackie Fisher’s family coat of arms that read in part, “fear God and dread nought.”

[@herbertgearing1702]

If the ship had been conceived of and built by any other nation it would have gone down in history as a brilliant move. The arms race which ensued was extremely costly to England. Considering their position as the foremost sea power with an enormous fleet of now obsolete ships, perhaps the lesson is "don't place all of your eggs in one basket, even if the basket has solid belt armor"

[@Bird_Dog00]

I don't think britain had much of a choice at that time. I think this very issue you raise is the reason they didn't built Dreadnought earlier. But eventually their hand was forced. Satsuma was already under construction and the South Carolinas were being designed. At that moment, britain could either go ahead or risk falling behind. Improvements in firecontroll made the older armament style ineffective, so the change had to come eventually. I think the royal navy saw this coming for a while and I don't think they were happy about the prospect of having to replace all their expensive capital ships with an new class of even more expensive ones.

[@zackakai5173]

But the US, Japan, and Germany were all already either in the process of building their own dreadnoughts, or about to be. South Carolina actually started construction *before* Dreadnought. If the UK hadn't built it, they'd have fallen behind. The arms race was coming as soon as people figured out that was a smarter way to build a battleship.

[@tootallforyou112]

Let's just say the battlefield 1 dreadnought was very accurate

[@DedMan28]

This video should have been sponsored by Sabaton.

[@andrewgadd1182]

Can't believe you said mark-x instead of mark ten. The British used Roman numerals for just about everything until the end of the second world war

[@randomobserver8168]

Well, a few hundred million dollars is pretty good for a boundary pushing capital warship. The Zumwalt class destroyer is currently given a unit cost of 4.24 billion dollars. Just goes to show monetary inflation isn't the only source of cost inflation in these, as other purchases.

[@MortRotu]

Zumwalt probably has a shed load of R&D costs to cover, the vast majority of Dreadnoughts R&D had already been done before planning for her commenced, minimising that portion of the cost.

[@jimwoodard64]

You’ll be happy to know that ‘Dreadnought’ lives on in a form factor of acoustic guitars. The name was first used by Martin to describe their new large bodies meant to give a louder, thicker acoustic sound.

[@ranekeisenkralle8265]

It also lives on in song - specifically the title "Dreadnought" on Sabaton's recently released album "The War to end all Wars" - which is precisely about this very ship Simon has been talking about.

[@doabarrellroll69]

Dreadnought also lives on in basically being used to describe anything big, powerful or great, either in fiction or nonfiction.

[@jeffrichards1537]

When I hear the word dreadnought makes me think of zartan from G.I Joe cartoons.

[@TheEvilCommenter]

Good video 👍

[@mattyallwood]

Thanks guys great bideo

[@loke6664]

Wait, why isn't this a Megaproject? Several US carriers have been on that channel and this ship changed Naval warfare at least as much and for it's time it was insanely expensive... I am mega confused about what is a sideproject and a mega project now?!??!

[@Axonteer]

this thing is such a memewagon

[@joshuasill1141]

This could possibly be because while HMS Dreadnaught revolutionized the mark for big gun warships she had a very short service life and she was only a one-off ship much like HMS Neptune. HMS Dreadnaught was succeeded by the Bellerophon, St. Vincent, Colossus, Orion, King George V, Iron Duke, and the Queen Elizabeth class all within a few years after Dreadnaught was laid down. The King George V, Iron Duke, and the Queen Elizabeth class super dreadnaughts were better armored, better gunned, had super firing turrets capabilities, and saw battle not only in WWI but also in WWII.

[@loke6664]

@@joshuasill1141 She was still the ship that impacted WW1 on both sides even if she did little by herself. There were no battleships before her and the minute she was built all other ships suddenly became antiques. I mean, what has the Gerald Ford battleship done so far? She was a mega project and maybe she will become incredible important in a future war but we don't know that. HMS Dreadnought influenced naval thinking over the world up to Pearl harbor and the sinking of the Prince of Wales. The other large class that came soon after were the battlecruisers but those fell out of favor after their poor performance during the battle of Jutland and were soon forgotten. Heck, you could argue that she was one of the reasons behind WW1 starting, when the Germans saw her they panicked and started to build their own similar ships which lead to the at the time good vibes between England and Germany got destroyed and lead to an armsrace.

[@jfangm]

It actually didn't change naval combat that much. The U.S. and Germany already had similar designs on the slipways before Dreadnought's keel was even laid. The entire concept is based on a well-known naval treatise from the late 1890s. Also, Dreadnought was not the largest ship in the world at the time, so I would hardly call it a "megaproject."

[@jo-anneetstef3657]

The sun is melting the arctic circle behind Simon.😁

[@xandernettles]

I always wondered what dreadnought meant now i feel really dumb

[@ChIGuY-town22_]

Good stuff thanks

[@alyssinwilliams4570]

HMS Dreadnought was obsolete by the start of WW1 unfortunately :(

[@jasonreed1631]

The fundamental problem with being the one that revolutionized design or technology, whoever does it second gets to see and correct your mistakes.

[@alyssinwilliams4570]

@@jasonreed1631 Definitely - the rest of the Royal Navy really benefitted from it in WW1, which is why it had become obsolete, heh. These warships ended up being so valuable that they were "too valuable to lose", and only ever ended up in.. I want to say 2 engagements over the course of the war - Jutland being the main one, I cant recall of the top of my head where the other was - and spent most of their time in or around ports. Weird how that worked out

[@owenshebbeare2999]

@@alyssinwilliams4570 There was another major engagement at The Falklands, before Jutland, that might be the one you are thinking of.

[@EurojuegosBsAs]

@@owenshebbeare2999 I would guess Gallipoli

[@philip4846]

Pity it was scrapped. It's construction was a turning point in naval engineering and deserved to be preserved.