Hobby Cheating 210 - How to Build Mars Bases

[@dornjr]

That "different pastes drying at different rates" cheat is GOLD! Thanks Vince! :)

[@VinceVenturella]

Thanks, that was one of those happy little accidents a long time ago and I've been trying to find a good video to share it in.

[@justinrisen1929]

Haha the disclaimer at the beginning of the immanent Total Recall references was one of the funniest things ive heard in a bit lol great vid Vince awesome work on the base.

[@VinceVenturella]

Thanks, I felt the warning was necessary, because I didn't know if I would be able to stop myself. :)

[@Wijkert]

I agree that verticality is indeed great for basing, since most things around the world and especially in nature are not flat. The challenge I face is that the primary game I play is rank and flank one. When making bases for singel models I have the same amount of freedom as skirmish games have, but creating bases for rank and file units, is much much harder to have nice looking verticality. If you would ever make a video concerning that topic, I would be very grateful!

[@VinceVenturella]

Well, so I did the same thing back in R&F days, basically, I would pick a few bases, especially command models, and create some slight verticality. It makes the unit actually seem more real, because then the people are of varying "heights"

[@brali1717]

I can’t imagine this hobby without you.

[@VinceVenturella]

Well, thank you, that is very much appreciated. :)

[@GZTakosh]

It isn't warhammer if there isn't a skull is so true. The verticality is absolutely great to make your units look more different

[@VinceVenturella]

Glad you enjoyed! And yes, got to have the skull. :)

[@docbun]

Looking forward to the next part! (And to see if the visible cork on the left, close to the skull, will remain uncovered. ;)

[@VinceVenturella]

Spoiler: It will, but it won't be very obvious because of the other coverage. :)

[@zakhoskins6404]

Vince : "I'm going to show you how to make Mars bases, and yes, this video will be filled with Total Recall references." Me: *does his best Austrian accent* "THANK YOUUUUUUUUUUU VINNNYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!" *goes back to drilling holes for pinning his minis*

[@lonegoat81]

the worst part is when he pulls a pre made base out of his nose :P

[@VinceVenturella]

It really hurt, but it was the only way to ditch the tracker. ;)

[@zakhoskins6404]

@@VinceVenturella Indeed. The only thing that hurts more is the fact that Tim Lambesis is going to be in jail for a long time, and can't make more awesome Arnold movie inspired metal songs. So sad :(

[@halogu117]

Ouuu can I get a sneak peak in the painting? I'm working on a mars themed display board for armies on parade. I have all my base colors down, but struggle with the drybrush color and wash

[@VinceVenturella]

It will be coming next week, don't worry. :)

[@bitzbox]

Thanks for your tutorial, came out really nice

[@VinceVenturella]

Thank you, happy to help as always.

[@naphaneal]

I recommend silicon tipped brushes (sculting brushes) or sculpting tools, when working with texture paint. cheap alternatives are coffee stirrers, bbq skewers, and toothpicks. Superglue + cellulose based materials: I experienced exothermic reactions when using superglue and cork or cotton. It can create toxic fumes. This might be brand related, but I recommend craft glue or PVA glue for these types of material Regarding vegetation: Mars in 40k was terraformed. So...your point is up for debate. (IRL, you're right. Regarding the game lore, ehh...not so much)

[@BrickworksDK]

As I recall, wasn't all terraforming undone during the Heresy, leaving Mars as an irradiated wasteland?

[@lonegoat81]

@@BrickworksDK wasn't it also undone by The Mechanicus turning it into another forge world waste land?

[@VinceVenturella]

Interesting, I've never had a reaction, but as you said, it might be brand based.

[@vasili1207]

Helth and safety nazi 😡..... you guys are growing in numbers

[@Mikey__R]

@@BrickworksDK It was undone WAY, WAY before the Heresy, before even the Mechanicum came to prominance on Mars. The atmosphere desipated in the centuries following the war with the Men Of Iron, as no-one remembered how to fix the terraforming machinery, and if they did, they'd be too busy fighting off either other techno-barbarians, or any of the rogue semi-sentient nasties left over from before the previously mentioned war.

[@geteavnroc2250]

Theres quite a few ways to do this. I like to alternate between Martian Ironearth and Ironcrust, along with with adding bits of metal from GW's basing kits. I try to avoid the cork, where i can.

[@VinceVenturella]

Fair enough, nothing wrong with cork, it's good to have verticality, you just can't end on cork, as you see here, it's very covered up and integrated to just be a slight elevation change in the ground.

[@emilymegan40]

That basing makes me wish I had 3 hands 😂😂😂😂

[@Weltrath]

4:38 For some reason the base looks...grumpy.

[@necrolepsey]

Every time I have a project you always come through with a helpful tutorial before I start. Get out of my head Vince... Question though. For something like Chainrasp hordes that use the slotted bases, how would I do something like this? Do I cut them off and just glue them to the finished bases? (They don’t have much surface area). Do I gouge out a slot for them? Do I put the models in as all of this is drying and paint it all at once?

[@VinceVenturella]

So I answered during the show, but hopefully that helps, the key is remove if you have enough surface area without it, or cut way down small to a tiny slot if you want to keep it because it's necessary.

[@jonaskolton9122]

I realize Im kinda off topic but does anyone know a good website to stream new series online ?

[@harveydouglas5496]

@Jonas Kolton Flixportal :P

[@jonaskolton9122]

@Harvey Douglas Thank you, I went there and it seems to work =) I really appreciate it!!

[@harveydouglas5496]

@Jonas Kolton No problem :D

[@remspoon]

Vince, as always, great video. Can you post a pic of what you decant your ZAP Accelerator into. I think mine is eating through the plastic...!

[@VinceVenturella]

I am literally just using an old plastic bottle from vape juice to be completely honest. It's never given me any issues.

[@zedatkinszed1216]

Great video - thanks for this Vince!

[@VinceVenturella]

Thank you, happy to help as always. :)

[@St33lTit4n]

Awesome video as always Vince! Quick question for ya, what sort of thickness of the cork would you recommend for this sort of basing?

[@VinceVenturella]

So I use the 1/4" or 1/8" inch stuff, you can generally find both around.

[@LPP_YT]

Vince, is there a subject you haven’t covered? Great work as per normal 👍.

[@VinceVenturella]

I hope so, I have to keep making videos., ;)

[@caseyrogers7538]

Any tips you would give to adjust to a smaller scale, for something like Adeptus Titanicus? That would also be a cool video, basing for smaller scales than 28mm-32mm

[@VinceVenturella]

Honestly, I would avoid any large scale rocks, but otherwise, I would keep it pretty much the same at the smaller scale.

[@jarax1764]

Hello everyone, it is possible to find 360 panorama photos from Opportunity rover that is on the Mars and I think it is great idea to google it for an inspiration.

[@VinceVenturella]

Nice, that's a good call for sure. :)

[@leighbrown5430]

How would you modify a base like this for a smaller size base such as a 25mm? it seems like it would be difficult to put all those different products on a small base .

[@VinceVenturella]

So I would just use a little less on each base, but all the same across the bases (think of like splitting up the landscape, you wouldn't have all of this on every base, but if taken as a whole you would.

[@eddy3722]

Interestingly, I tried this trick with Vallejo thick mud and the crackle paint barely cracked at all - dried in big clumps with maybe one or two cracks. May have worked too well!

[@VinceVenturella]

Interesting, it's always about the drying times differences. So those must have been much closer.

[@nicksavage8772]

Vince, what's that glue accelerant you're using with the dropper? I've only seen Zip Kicker in the spray bottle and even a tiny spritz is overkill...

[@VinceVenturella]

Just Zap-Kicker, but I buy the big replacement bottles (you can get the pure liquid) and then I move it into a tiny dropper bottle.

[@lonegoat81]

Would crackle paste act similar over some pva in the spreading out more ascpect? I tend to make my own crackle mixtures.

[@VinceVenturella]

I haven't tried it, but I imagine so, as the drying rates would differ and that's the key, seems worth an experiment.

[@Glatius]

Hey Vince/ anyone in the comments. What're your top 3/5 tips for a beginner? I've bought the death guard paint set that came with 3 minis and have bought Dark Imperium and gonna get more tools and paints soon. Thanks again all. Great video as always :)

[@thatgenericdixienormouspicguy]

Get some chipping medium if you’re doing death guard you’ll want em nice and rusty. Get some sanding sticks off amazon they’ll help you out a lot with mold lines and rough areas. Also zenithal highlight! It’s easy to get those shadows and highlights easier that way. Hope you have fun in the hobby!

[@SheepWaveMeByeBye]

Watch Vince's videos on drybrushing, zenithal highlighting and glazing

[@VinceVenturella]

Yeah, it's tough, basically, focus on your basics, understanding your paints and brush control. You will advance quickly in the beginning if you follow tutorials, the knowledge is all out there. Learn how to turn your paint smooth, what colors cover well and what doesn't how to control your brush and how to do things like glaze. Beyond that, there is plenty to learn, but the key is don't worry about it all at once. Just paint, have some successes, have some failures and most importantly, just keep learning, it's a wonderful journey.

[@redrooster7371]

The one tip I wish I knew from the beginning is that our paints are transparent. Don't fight it, embrace it! Watch some other of Vince's tutorials and you'll get an idea. Maybe start with the video on glazing.

[@robquinnpc]

can i use any of the GW texture paints, or does it have to be the ironearth? what about agrellan earth or armegeddon dunes?

[@VinceVenturella]

Any of the Crackle paint will work, but it will produce slightly different size cracks, but it will all work.

[@christopherwiggins1705]

Hey Vince thanks for your time. Dumb and simple question, where do you get the cork? Adhesive sheet cork from hobby lobby like1’x1’? Or you get it somewhere else? I am looking to build up some vertical bases for some bones models. Thanks in advance

[@VinceVenturella]

You can get big sheets of it at the hardware store or even a place like Ikea for "placemats".

[@christopherwiggins1705]

Vince Venturella thanks sir I found some I just didn’t realize you were breaking them off a bigger piece of board. Got some today much appreciated

[@TheJankmaster]

Does the superglue effect the curing time of the goop under it?

[@naphaneal]

No.

[@VinceVenturella]

Nope.

[@BrickworksDK]

In all honesty, I don't like bases with hight differences. But that has a lot to do with the point about looking like cork. It's pretty much just layer after layer of cork, and it looks like it.

[@manga3040]

The end product here does not look like cork was obviously used.

[@VinceVenturella]

That's the goal, use the cork to be the skeleton to built the height, then cover it over so it looks like part of actual nature.

[@manga3040]

@@VinceVenturella I know, I was just addressing the other person that said cork always stand out when used. Citing what you were making in the video as a perfect example.

[@Pyriel2]

Whats that paste?

[@VinceVenturella]

Vallejo Basing Paste, there are lots of different grit types, but you can get most of them on Amazon.

[@Pyriel2]

@@VinceVenturella Thanks :)

[@skunk12]

Where is the cheese? Everyone knows that Mars, much like the moon, is made of cheese.

[@VinceVenturella]

Darn it, I need to start over now. :)

[@skunk12]

@@VinceVenturella you may want to quit the hobby now. 😆🤣😂 (Please dont)

[@bencoomer2000]

Ha. Those "bigger rocks" looks a like my random slate chips. Have no idea where I got it...

[@lonegoat81]

i got a lil package of slate in various sizes from china. no idea who though lol

[@bencoomer2000]

In related question, how would you change for a regular Earth desert base?

[@VinceVenturella]

It would honestly be very similar, but I would have more recent remnants of water and more importantly, vegetation of some kind. In most deserts barring something like the Sahara, you have lots of life, it's just rugged small plants.

[@bencoomer2000]

@@VinceVenturella Need to hike the Canyon Lands here soon for inspiration.

[@M0U53B41T]

Worth investigating - actual photos from Mars (for those who like inspiration :D) mars.nasa.gov/ Also, awesome video as always Vince!!

[@VinceVenturella]

Nice, yep, the right answer is usually go to the source and look at real life. :)