Hobie Outback Vs 2020 Old Town Predator PDL

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Aliex Folgueira

Aliex Folgueira

Күн бұрын

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@randyprovost8426
@randyprovost8426 5 жыл бұрын
Been on my 2019 Outback for about two trips and loving it so far.
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome bro! I'm happy that you like it
@billadams6250
@billadams6250 5 жыл бұрын
Aliex, very nice job with your review. Here's my 2 cents for anyone considering Old Town Predator PDL vs Hobie: I've owned a Hobie Revolution for 12 years and love it. I decided to get an Old Town Predator PDL for a change and because of the ability to stand up, and ability to reverse. I had to sell it after two uses, and here's why. PDL is 117 lbs and way too heavy to load and unload in my truck for trips. PDL is very hard to pedal and I cannot keep up with the currents of the waters I fish in (2-4 knots). The advantage of the Hobie is the fin drives. They are much faster, and they tuck up under the boat to get into extremely shallow water. The first time I used my Hobie, I was out for 6 hours and enjoyed every minute of it. It's effortless and enjoyable. The PDL is a LOT OF WORK, and I think these boats should come with a warning label "not to be used in moving water". I would not recommend PDL to anyone unless they like to stand up, they have strong legs, and are happy going slow at the expense of a lot of effort.
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Actually I'm the opposite, I like the bike motion better, the Hobie drive after a while fatigue my legs, I could go all day on the bike motion syle drive. Good thing we have choices
@Sydney-Ghumo
@Sydney-Ghumo 3 жыл бұрын
I’m in Australia and I just love getting into the “Outback”.
@killintimeoutdoors
@killintimeoutdoors 5 жыл бұрын
I will say I wish the Outback had tension control on the rudder! But I'd disagree with saying the transducer system is a wash between the two. But my favorite thing the Predator has is that warranty. That's incredible.
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
I just use the transducer on the side, maybe that's why I don't feel so strongly about it
@waltsadventure
@waltsadventure 5 жыл бұрын
Best way to put it is Apple vs. Samsung. Both have their pros, both have their cons. You can argue about performance but both function the way they're supposed to. Sometimes having a fruit as a label means more to someone.
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Nailed it!
@Irishjay1025
@Irishjay1025 5 жыл бұрын
My 5 year old Samsung android is as fast as the new iPhone, hobie is the iPhone for sure.
@MesquiteOutdoors
@MesquiteOutdoors 5 жыл бұрын
Really comes down to the drive and the type of fishing you do. Love using the mirage drive in shallow inshore grass flats where I can flutter the drive. If I was mostly bass fishing I would go with a pdl style drive.
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Yup
@AM-el4iv
@AM-el4iv 5 жыл бұрын
I have the predator pdl and have been using it for 3 months and love it. My wife bought the outback but have not used yet. We will see!
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see! Thanks
@AM-el4iv
@AM-el4iv 5 жыл бұрын
@@AliexFolgueira We did a speed contest and I was just ahead for a tiny distance. This is considering I was carrying more weight on the predator and I'm stronger than my wife of course lol
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Predator is faster, but not by much but still was it fun?
@dannygfishing6803
@dannygfishing6803 5 жыл бұрын
With the PDL i wish the tank well was bigger to fit a black pack side ways not long ways. Your right needs more space and love they added for a mirco pole. Nice review
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Danny,
@paulalbert2496
@paulalbert2496 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a toss up for me with these two kayaks but I think I’m going to go with hobie. The main reason is the seat adjustability and the rigging capabilities.
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 4 жыл бұрын
Get the 2020 version of the Hobie, with kick up fins
@paulalbert2496
@paulalbert2496 4 жыл бұрын
Aliex Folgueira gracias!
@Moedy1
@Moedy1 5 жыл бұрын
If one of them steps it up to put an outboard transom mount on the back so you can use an outboard and then quietly use the pedals when you get to where you want to be, that would be a game changer. Pelican missed their mark on the Pelican Catch PWR 100 by not including pedals to use with the outboard
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe they will do that, I think Jonny may have that soon
@BassGeek
@BassGeek 5 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. I still lean to the Hobie.
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Traitor! Lol jk
@Irishjay1025
@Irishjay1025 5 жыл бұрын
Why they are slower and less stable and much of the boat is made in China. Old Town is almost all made in America minus a few parts in the drive that are made in Japan I believe.
@maldrury8313
@maldrury8313 5 жыл бұрын
One of your best reviews. Both good kayaks but The Predator comes out in front on price, features and warranty. Having watched some reviews the Predator is a superior offshore boat. However a major negative of the Predator was it was way to easy to flip from that high seating position. They need a high/low seat. Hobie is lighter in weight and does have the seat height adjustment.
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah man, they do need a low/high seat, I mean the titan has one!!
@mlsf4400
@mlsf4400 5 жыл бұрын
Way to go! Excellent review! Thanks!
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙂
@TheFishingMommy
@TheFishingMommy 5 жыл бұрын
Also: on the gear tracks those funny rounded shaped openings in the Outback are IDEAL rod holders for me. At only 5’1” I can reach them effortlessly while unhooking a fish or rigging. On the drives, one thing you’re not mentioning is that if someone has any knee issues, the Mirage drive may be MUCH easier on their knees. I’ve had multiple surgeries on my ACL, MCL, LCL and meniscus, and I can do 4-6 hours on the water constantly pedaling with ZERO issues. I can only do about 30 minutes on a bicycle style drive before I’m in pain. The drive system is a HUGE differentiator.
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
I love a well setup motorized paddle yak
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
There is like two camps, some tell me the propel it is easier other tell me they hate it lol 😂 same for hobie
@TheFishingMommy
@TheFishingMommy 5 жыл бұрын
In my location, there are no motors allowed on most bodies of water that allow kayaks. So that’s a non-option. Interesting about the hips...I have some hip issues too but have had no problems with the Mirage drive. Just did another long outing the day before yesterday. Can’t disagree that instant reverse would be nice but it’s not a dealbreaker for me personally. All of this is why demoing boats for yourself is an absolute necessity!!!
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheFishingMommy time to change the law lol 😂
@TheFishingMommy
@TheFishingMommy 5 жыл бұрын
Aliex Folgueira yeahhhh not happening.
@tailslapexplore6887
@tailslapexplore6887 5 жыл бұрын
Old Town improved on quality Hobie improved on prices lol, awesome review Aliex and I do hope ur sub keep increasing mate.
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂 thanks 😁, numbers are going up not as fast as it should but still last month wass 350,000 views and about 1,000 new subs
@tailslapexplore6887
@tailslapexplore6887 5 жыл бұрын
@@AliexFolgueira you'll get there 🙂✌️
@BernPisarcikJr
@BernPisarcikJr 5 жыл бұрын
Hobie outback is my first kayak. I like the features of other brands, but I got what I wanted. I enjoy all these videos you make when I’m having a brew and finished work for the day. Great review. Both very nice vessels! Thank you for doing what you do, you helped a mechanic make some good life choices. Also, note how deep the PDL platform is, sides are higher maybe better for waves and splash.
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Super happy to help brother 😁 did you make your own brew?
@BernPisarcikJr
@BernPisarcikJr 5 жыл бұрын
Aliex Folgueira I haven’t done that in years. Got lazy and moved onto better hobbies that include my son.
@VentureNW
@VentureNW 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Aliex! How about a comparison between the Topwater 120 and the Predator PDL?
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Two days!
@harleycleanslate
@harleycleanslate 5 жыл бұрын
I had the 2019 Old Town and swapped it for the 2019 Hobie. I miss the instant reverse but that's it, in all other categories of performance layout, convenience...no comparison. The Hobie is so much nicer, and 30 lbs lighter.
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
The outback is a refined Watercraft, like they thought about everything. I do prefer insta reverse, the predator is not my fav boat
@chrisplusian
@chrisplusian 4 жыл бұрын
@@AliexFolgueira I saw your review of the Topwater 120 PDL vs the hobie. Do you like the topwater more than the Predator? I own two Johnson outdoor kayaks (old town topwater 120, and ocean kayak pdl which now is the old town salty). I have been debating on buying the topwater 120 PDL vs the predator. Just curious on your opinion of the topwater vs predator
@stevenvalenti3722
@stevenvalenti3722 5 жыл бұрын
I'd go with that old town predator 2020. After hearing what hobie recently did by raising their prices. With a bullshit reason like they said. I would never buy another hobie ever again. Just on that point alone. great review man.🙂
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man
@Irishjay1025
@Irishjay1025 5 жыл бұрын
Yep they are the dicks sporting goods of the kayak world. These companies really need to leave politics alone.
@heathmartin
@heathmartin 5 жыл бұрын
Nice review! Thanks for the honest comparisons. Very helpful.
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Heath, I'm always staying true to myself even if some don't approve
@GreenMeanie101
@GreenMeanie101 5 жыл бұрын
Could you make tension control on the hobie by adding a rubber washer under the control?
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure, haven't try it
@liamgarvey33
@liamgarvey33 3 жыл бұрын
from what I've seen the current Outback hull design takes too much water over the bow. Consequently the front hatch takes in too much water and Hobie's answer was a second hatch seal. In short, you're gonna get a wetter ride in any chop on the Hobie. The Predator will deal with rougher water much better. I reckon you are better off on the Hobie in the shallows, but in deep water, especially inshore seas or ocean you want the OldTown under you. My main complaint about the Predator is that you cant lower the seat, so your in a high position, that affects your stability depending on your height and weight. Why OT didn't make the seat adjustable for height is a mystery?. If you leave your Outback in the baking Sun on the roof of your vehicle, watch it flex, but not the Predator, its significantly more dense/heavier, built like a tank. The OB hull still does the job and the mirage drive is a brilliant bit of technology but your gonna pay a hefty premium for it. If anybody outhere has extensive experience of both Yaks and can point to others issues, we love to hear it. AFAIK as of April 2021 OldTown has discontinued the Predator, so I guess a new design is on the way. Interesting review.
@Ariautoace
@Ariautoace 5 жыл бұрын
"And this one went up in price" - you got a Like from me for that! Dude that's hilarious.
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Lol thank you 😀😀😀👍👍👍
@TexasAllWaterFishing
@TexasAllWaterFishing 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for sharing! Both great kayaks, I still can't believe hobie increased their price. Just nuts
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I mean they can increase price with each new model but doing it on products already on the shelves.......
@Irishjay1025
@Irishjay1025 5 жыл бұрын
Hobie uses alot of Chinese parts so they are scared, but they fail to see China needs us we dont need China. Old Town American made so they dont fear tariffs.
@ThienCao850
@ThienCao850 5 жыл бұрын
Thermoformed Hobie Pro Angler, done. Said it first!
@fishfinder401
@fishfinder401 5 жыл бұрын
For the same price as a house
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Since it is two pieces double the price! Lol
@Sanctified_Leather
@Sanctified_Leather 5 жыл бұрын
Great Stuff Aliex. These Yaks are Nice , but I'm not 100% on the 2020 but I do like the Topwater 120 Pdl for Sure. The Hobie Outback is Great , but "3K Great" 🤔 My Wife in her opinion , does not like the seat on the outback , and says the Bars bother her on her backside and says the seats like the Bonafide and the Old Town are way better for Her. I have to agree with her. The Hobie Pro Angles , has far better comfort and has a much better seat then the Outback . I want The best Kayak that I can get . But , we do want a comfortable and stable one out one the water. Hobie is All about there drive thats Truly what made them in my opinion . But yes they are great kayaks . And the Drop down rudder I just don't know if I like it for transportation . So will see , were doing a lot of research for a couple of new fishing kayaks for myself and my Wife . Great Stuff , you've done an Awsome job on this new 2020 Old Town , thank you Aliex , much appreciated 👍👍
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I really like to read comments like this, very well informed and not calling out
@Sanctified_Leather
@Sanctified_Leather 5 жыл бұрын
Your welcome Aliex . Just wondering , In your opinion , which one would you choose between the Outback , the Compass , the Old Town 2020 , or the Old Town Topwater 120 . We want a pair of Great kayaks and we want the best bang for the buck . Hobies are Really Great, but Man there right there at the crazy level for us . Even the prices just before there suppose of 20% Tarrif increase to was still a little pricey . We can see $2,500 , but $3,000 & $4,000. $6,000 - $8,000 for a pair of Yaks VS $ 5,000 . So just wondering your thoughts and opinions . We do want a pair of good / stable and comfortable kayaks as we can get . I'm just seeing if a Hobie VS a Old Town is well worth the extra . Myself and my Wife Really, Really, love the Bonafides with there Stability and comfort and price , but we are Very interested in a peddle Type Yak . So if you could Aliex what would you tell us in your opinion . Thank You Again Aliex ..... 👍👍
@Sanctified_Leather
@Sanctified_Leather 5 жыл бұрын
I already know you love the Hobie Outback Aliex . But of the Old Town Models which do you like more , the 120 Topwater PDL or the Predator PDL if you could Only have one Kayak ??? Thanks for your Answer Aliex 👍👍
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
I go for the 120 pdl for sure 100%
@Sanctified_Leather
@Sanctified_Leather 5 жыл бұрын
@@AliexFolgueira Awsome , Thank You Aliex 👋👍
@Sanctified_Leather
@Sanctified_Leather 5 жыл бұрын
@@AliexFolgueira How About Between the 2019 outback and the Old Town 120 PDL ??? 😁
@walte99
@walte99 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video! In a future video, could you go into a little more detail about how and what could be done with the 2 rectangular plates that you mentioned at about 2:05? I'm a little confused with those, specially without knowing what is underneath them. Thanks.
@bassnxiong5025
@bassnxiong5025 5 жыл бұрын
There is nothing underneath those plates. You can mount your fish finder and tuck the excess wires underneath or mount cameras onto those plates.
@deancampbell3180
@deancampbell3180 5 жыл бұрын
Mr. Aliex....! we gonna be able to fit the new mirage 360 drives in the 2019 outbacks?
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately no
@NickyKDChaleunphone
@NickyKDChaleunphone 5 жыл бұрын
Should compare the Old Town Predator PDL to the topwater PDL 10 & 12
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Ummm was gonna do the 120 vs pdl
@docbailey3265
@docbailey3265 5 жыл бұрын
Aliex.........you rock. BTW, the Old Town universal transducer mount doesn’t fit a Garmin Striker transducer.
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Good to know thanks! 😁
@Irishjay1025
@Irishjay1025 5 жыл бұрын
Flip the bracket and drill your own holes it will fit.
@coreyfrasnelly7364
@coreyfrasnelly7364 5 жыл бұрын
Irishjay1025 exactly
@chalse70
@chalse70 5 жыл бұрын
Good video! Keep 'em coming
@MetalRush666
@MetalRush666 5 жыл бұрын
This one got a lot of upgrades and this one well it went up in price 😂. The real question is will you be declaring a winner at the end of the series?!
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂 difficult to answer, like I mentioned the predator is not my fav yak, maybe they will listen and fix that Tankwell
@AnglingWithAlex
@AnglingWithAlex 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and review Aliex. I'm currently in this market trying to decide what I want to get and its SO SO hard to figure it out. Every bit of information helps. I've been staring at the 2019 Outback for a couple weeks and this 2020 PDL just has a bunch of pluses that make it so hard to decide: $450 cheaper, the instant reverse, the better seat... i dont know!!! HELP ME!! hahaha
@tigersaint124
@tigersaint124 5 жыл бұрын
Still the Outback until Old Town addresses a few things like: Dual Steering, Wider Tank Well, and a Front Hatch Bucket.
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
The bucket is easy the rest needs a new mold
@tigersaint124
@tigersaint124 5 жыл бұрын
@@AliexFolgueira how do they not have a bucket for that hatch?
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
@@tigersaint124 hobie has one but you gotta buy it separately
@tigersaint124
@tigersaint124 5 жыл бұрын
@@AliexFolgueira mine came with my PA12
@mehmetkimp
@mehmetkimp 2 жыл бұрын
Bro 400 dollars difference for an amount like 3k is not much...the most efficient thing is the pedal system i think that hobie's pedal system is easier to drive...am i wrong ?
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 2 жыл бұрын
It is up to the kayaker, I find the prop drive easier on my legs
@TheMDOutdoors2016
@TheMDOutdoors2016 5 жыл бұрын
Nice kayaks but little out of my price range
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah man, they cost a lot
@tigersaint124
@tigersaint124 5 жыл бұрын
Buy used
@fisherkieds6282
@fisherkieds6282 5 жыл бұрын
Hobie is overprice,they raised the price by over $400 from the time the 2019 was released the camo version is another $150 on top of that.... for...Uhhhm.....reasons gotta love that mirage drive though
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Lots of money for the hobies for sure but they are good and offer lots of goodies
@kayakrexadventure2308
@kayakrexadventure2308 5 жыл бұрын
In here just a dream!!
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Dreams come true
@JMag1
@JMag1 5 жыл бұрын
Great review! I have a 2017 old town predator 13 and love it, but one day I want to upgrade to a pedal kayak and these are my two front runners, so this review was very helpful. I do wonder about the old town seat and if it's too high up for the inshore ocean fishing I do. In my predator the seat is adjustable high and low and I leave it low for stability when I'm ocean fishing.
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
You basically have to lean to flip, once you know your kayak you should be fine
@JMag1
@JMag1 5 жыл бұрын
That's very true, but I do wonder why old town didnt use their cathedral style tri hull on the PDL because the predator has it and it's a very stable platform and tracks well.
@stevenvalenti3722
@stevenvalenti3722 5 жыл бұрын
Check out the top water 120 also. I'd probably by that one myself. Or the new predator. But more likely I think the top water 120.🙂
@arsola74
@arsola74 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid man. I personally did some research on the price spike for the Hobbie and according to what I’ve been told the reason for the price is because of the Chinese tariff that haven been imposed. According to one small business owner. Hobbie actually subsidized the tariff for a few months in order to keep the price competitive but about 2 weeks ago they told the authorized dealers they couldn’t absorb them anymore. Take it for what its worth.
@benruthlessburger8905
@benruthlessburger8905 5 жыл бұрын
The Urban Angler to think it’s American made down in Southern California lol
@arsola74
@arsola74 5 жыл бұрын
Tee Tao assembled in the US but most parts are made in China. Chinese tariffs still applies
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Most of that it is true except nobody else has increased prices....
@arsola74
@arsola74 5 жыл бұрын
Aliex Folgueira good point. Thank for all your reviews man. As a consumer I put in a lot work on research before investing this vids really really helps.
@derkhawkins2575
@derkhawkins2575 5 жыл бұрын
Good Review. Go Well.
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks derk
@johnpuckett899
@johnpuckett899 5 жыл бұрын
Hey man would like to see you get out and paddle the old town I know it's a 13 foot boat so it should paddle good but with it being so wide would like to know your full thoughts on it if you were two miles offshore do you think you would be okay or it would work you to death if you see this please respond buddy thanks
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
We were out miles off shore no issues, here is my paddling video kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3TJqoqQr9dgirM
@norcaloutdoor5462
@norcaloutdoor5462 5 жыл бұрын
I think your fence look better than kayaks. lol
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂 I have to finish fencing
@14theroad1955
@14theroad1955 5 жыл бұрын
Good video Aliex ..bro, Hobie is going to price themselves out of the market. They are going to cut their nose off to spite their face, greed does strange things, what a shame that they dont think of their customers more than they do....
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Does look that way
@cerescop
@cerescop 4 жыл бұрын
And its American made, don't forget that on the Old Town Predator
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 4 жыл бұрын
Both are...
@cerescop
@cerescop 4 жыл бұрын
@@AliexFolgueira Ok, I lppked oit up. The Hobie hull is made here. Then their are parts sourced from vendors. The only thing made in China is the seat webbing. Bout normal these days.
@ronniepatterson2827
@ronniepatterson2827 5 жыл бұрын
EUREKA ! I got it ! Hobie is looking to turn thier entire fleet into thermoformed kayaks , but they dont wanna look like they copied Pelican etc ,so they came out with the whole "tariffs" bullshit , to act like they cant afford to make them rotomolded , seeing thermoformed , uses a fraction of the "tariffed" "plastics ! Boom ! Now yall know , & knowing is half the battle .
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
bingo!!!
@FC-eb6zs
@FC-eb6zs 5 жыл бұрын
Oldtown all day 🤙🏽👍🏽👏🏽
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Have you done 24 hours non stop fishing?
@FC-eb6zs
@FC-eb6zs 5 жыл бұрын
Aliex Folgueira wouldnt that be 12 hrs? Im not sure that included the night😂 but i have fished for 12 hrs before, on a boat tho 🤷🏽‍♂️
@TheFishingMommy
@TheFishingMommy 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao I love how you’re like PREDATOR DID ALL THESE IMPROVEMENTS WOO and then Hobie “and...they increased the price”.
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂
@bigbignourdine8627
@bigbignourdine8627 5 жыл бұрын
Nice 👍👍
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother
@nubfishin9152
@nubfishin9152 5 жыл бұрын
I think for ocean fishing, the Hobie mirage drive is probably better. When you factor in price, the Old Town is really hard to beat. Old Town has been making watercraft for a long time and its a brand I would trust. IMO, for a fishing kayak, the Topwater PDL is the best out there. If someone was more interested in recreational use with a little fishing the Hobie Passport looks nice.
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Hard to be the 120 right now, that's what I would take offshore now
@tomearly111
@tomearly111 5 жыл бұрын
Hobie increased their price and Old Town lowered theirs. Unfortunately all the stores like Austin and Kayak City didn't get the memo. They are still selling the Predator PDL for $2799. At that price the Hobie is only $150. more. At that difference I wonder which one is the better kayak for the money .
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
The new predator are coming soon
@Sanctified_Leather
@Sanctified_Leather 4 жыл бұрын
They got the memo now !!! Hobie $2999.00. 2020.Predator PDL $2599.00 $400 Dollar price difference , not $150 .
@dannyo957416
@dannyo957416 5 жыл бұрын
They’re both too expensive for my blood I’ll be waiting for the pelican 110 HD to come out
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Soo many good options
@vec306
@vec306 2 жыл бұрын
Wow you’re showing your favoritism. You just glossed right over the transducer location and what that protector actually does. Sad.
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 2 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about ? Both have transducer solutions!
@DAVIZZY69
@DAVIZZY69 5 жыл бұрын
You can tell in you're tone that you are not happy with outback price. Lol im mad as well. But the tone is obvious lol
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂 true $3000 KAYAK, just wow
@DAVIZZY69
@DAVIZZY69 5 жыл бұрын
@@AliexFolgueira i was going to get an outback before the increase. Now i doubt it.
@Guywithoutahobby
@Guywithoutahobby 5 жыл бұрын
I’d take my chances on an outback lol
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Man, lol what did that predator did to you? Lol I think I remember telling you it wasn't my fav lol 😂
@Guywithoutahobby
@Guywithoutahobby 5 жыл бұрын
Aliex Folgueira you did, but I didn’t have hobie money, until I found a 2018 pa14 in mint condition for $2800 sold the pdl for $2300 and the rest is history. What it did? It dumped me in 45 degree water by just turning around to grab my water bottle, and I mean turn my upper body... next thing you know I’m saying FUCK! And it was not pleasant.
@Guywithoutahobby
@Guywithoutahobby 5 жыл бұрын
Aliex Folgueira but that only means the PDL wasn’t for me... smaller upper body guys need not to worry.
@catfishunter28
@catfishunter28 5 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a left over 2019 predator pdl for $1400. Steal
@AliexFolgueira
@AliexFolgueira 5 жыл бұрын
Wowwwwww Congrats 😀😀😀
@tasrocket
@tasrocket 2 жыл бұрын
dude seriously get a new narrator. your voice wouldn't sell an animated bug spray
@Irishjay1025
@Irishjay1025 5 жыл бұрын
Hobie the 3k Chinese made kayak vs Old Town the high value AMERICAN MADE kayak.
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak 5 жыл бұрын
Your spreading bad info. Hobie is made in CA. I've been there. Old town is made in Maine. Both are made with Chinese parts throughout.
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