HOBIE Pro Angler 12 VS 14 (Which KAYAK to choose?)

Looking at a hobie pro angler 12 or a 14 foot fishing kayak and need some guidance? I go over the pros cons and specs of each boat, and what they are best suited for when youre kayak fishing!

[@BravoBassin]

this was probably one of the best review's and information about both of these kayaks that I have seen no B.S. just straight forward and to the point well done!

[@kristinefischer2289]

I’m about as honest as they come! Glad to help

[@BravoBassin]

@@kristinefischer2289 that is one of the reason's my girlfriend and I both like you a follow you!! keep it up!

[@dwshehanF150]

Great review! Nice to hear from someone with first hand knowledge and has actually used them out on the water!

[@mikeprovancha1771]

So nice to chat with you today at the Dugout in Marietta. Thanks for all your advice and patient answers about the Passport 12.0 and the other Hobie models. You are even nicer in person than in the videos - and that is saying alot!!!

[@kristinefischer2289]

Great to meet you Mike! Thanks for stopping in :)

[@robmarquis7532]

Excellent video! You have given me a lot to think about. I appreciate the information on the differences and the application of both boats.

[@kenbrown5449]

Best breakdown on pros/cons I've found so far... no need to look further either. Exactly the kind of info I've been looking for. Looking forward to the rest in this series.

[@Bryan-no2xv]

Always a pleasure to watch your videos

[@bogeygolfer8776]

This is the most informative video to help me make a decision on PA 12 or 14. Thank you Kristine. I will be putting down a deposit on a 12 now which is suppose to arrive sometime this month! Can't wait. Just hope there is no delays from Hobie with all the stuff going on in the world.

[@kristinefischer2289]

Congrats!!!

[@johnwarnke3861]

Great breakdown. Thanks for putting this out for the masses.

[@lrparrish227]

I purchased the PA 12 and I am looking forward to getting out on the water. It is a beautiful Kayak and I have it decked out. Just love it. so far :)

[@TDArcher]

this was the most beneficial review of these boats I've seen so far. Thank you for posting. Ordered a PA14. It may be more boat than I need for the type of fishing I'm doing but I want to have to option to go into the bay or possibly offshore.

[@kristinefischer2289]

Thanks for that feedback! Hope you enjoy the yak!

[@bucac1213]

how much was the 2020 pa14?

[@jameshyatt1465]

Did you ever take it offshore? If so, how did it do?

[@ericchallinor3627]

Great demo Kristine. Many thanks

[@jojoadventures9835]

I just saw your videos and I liked it.. you earned my subscription..so much information and I really loved fishing 😍

[@kristinefischer2289]

Thanks for the sub!!

[@maxcole3930]

Had 2015 pa12 for 5 yrs & recently sold it & bought a 2021 PA12 360. The 360's manuverability is amazing & little faster too!! I prefer 12 because little lighter & shorter, fish lakes & alot small rivers/ large streams. The 14 could still definitely do it. I don't need extra room & carting through tight spaces & little less weight & length, I think is an advantage but 14' r still bad ass!!! & Once on water their both awesome. Family has a pa14 & an outback. I found the pa12 is just right for me.

[@GeorgiaTrappingandFishing]

Great job Kristine! Thinking about making a switch 😊👍👍👏 this helps a lot

[@kristinefischer2289]

You bet!!

[@chrisp7652]

Great info. I will update some day to a PA soon. Thanks for your info. Thanks and God bless!

[@josephkoziol5421]

Thanks ...very informative and a thoughtful comparison.

[@nesiansides7133]

Woah, I was thinking I purchased the wrong length 12ft kayak. Thanks mate 🤙🏼😎

[@derekroper3168]

Great video! I just got my PA14 2 weeks go partly thanks to you!

[@kristinefischer2289]

Ahh congrats!!! Where did you get your PA?

[@derekroper3168]

Kristine Fischer from Wind Toys in Santa Rosa, CA! Great experience. Love the PA14!!

[@dmvfishingdude]

Thank you! This helped so much!

[@cunninglinguist9853]

What an awesome presentation!

[@telemarkmann6870]

Good timing I plan to buy a Yak late this summer. Doing my research. I need to get off the banks. I miss having a boat. When I did have one I did not want to lug it around, go figure. I fish a big river and would like to have the option of moving around more and covering off shore. I like the idea of the trolling motor model by Old Town but the hull looks novel vs serious. If Hobie put a motorized drive in a PA hull that would be real nice. I am afraid to buy a pedal drive and the following year they come out with a motorized version, if they did and you had the option to use the motor or pedal drive out of the same slot. That would be a game changer! I hope Hobie is listening and designing. I originally started out wanting a solo canoe but that has evolved.

[@kristinefischer2289]

Hobie does have a motor that fits into the drive well! It’s called the evolve! I don’t believe they will ever make a motorized kayak because their drive system is so efficient- but you may see them come out with better systems for mounting motors!

[@dcooper314]

I've been debating between an outback and the pa 14. I live on lake st Clair. After seeing this I'm going with the 14 thanks for the video

[@trimbaker1893]

Thank you for the under Hobie cam view. I ahve been wondering about the paddle drive on your rig. : )

[@saltysockeye6304]

Great video. Still not 💯 on getting a Hobie PA or a wilderness recon.

[@BassWhoopinFishingTeam]

I have a Bonafide SS127 now so I’d probably go with the PA 12 if i was to get a hobie. Seems like the perfect size in my opinion.

[@kristinefischer2289]

The 12 is incredibly versatile

[@jonelliott9627]

Thank you for sharing the features and benefits of both models. Great video. Can you do the same for budget pedal kayaks?

[@TWC6724]

Hello Kristine, I’m looking at a used PA12. Now that the 360 is out, do you feel the 180 is still a good buy? I am also looking at other manufacturers that use a pedal system (for instant reverse) but like the kick up features of the fins of these as well. Man, such a hard decision.

[@troygeiger5065]

Thanks for posting a great side by side comparison of the PA 12 and PA 14. I do have a follow up question concerning horizontal rod storage. What is the maximum length of rod that the horizontal rod storage will comfortably fit for both the PA 12 and also the PA 14?

[@delbrinson2012]

Nice review. Beautiful boats. My problem is I tow a travel trailer and need to heft 2 kayaks. on my Tundra rack. The Big Rig is tough enough

[@codymartin9703]

Good info Thanks!!!

[@vxmine]

Great video. I'm 6'3", 215 lbs. Would I feel cramped on the 12?

beautiful video Congratulations.❤😍 Hug and good fishing always.👍🎣🐠🔝

[@seadog686]

Yeah, she sure is!

[@ernestmarquez2424]

It seems like you don’t have any problems with the horizontal rod storage. I just bought my PA 14 360, and haven’t had a chance to rig it out and take it out on water. Ive read where people have problems with the rod tubes and how it bends the rods and causes damage to the tips and rod guides. Any input or advice on how to handle your rods with the horizontal rod storage? Do you keep your rods in a sleeve at all times that they are in the horizontal rod storage? Thanks!

[@williewideback]

would love to see a PA 17T comparison

[@mikedmann7487]

Great review! I love Team Hobie Peeps!

[@blindsquirrel]

Thanks for the info. I decided on the pa 12. For me it was more about ease of loading/unloading and storage. Tried both, liked both, and wanted the pa 14, but I just couldn’t manage the size and weight

[@kristinefischer2289]

The 12 is a great boat!

[@PumpkinKingXXIII]

That’s exactly why I got a pa 12

[@jamiehaynes2415]

Dugout has just about everything you need for the area without all the other junk like your big stores also very knowledgeable about the lakes in the area I was just there Tuesday drove over an hour and picked up some baits I could not find near Chattanooga

[@fishhunt3471]

I wish I saw this video before I got my PA 14. For those looking at these kayaks, the biggest cons are the weight and cost. Other than that, I have had no complaints on the kayak

[@golforfishing]

i am debating between the 12 and 14. Do you have a custom trailer for your 14?

[@jnblawnandlandscapellc]

I think most people underestimate the size of the PA14. It's huge!

[@mikehanen5843]

My ride is a 14’ pro angler for halibut fishing in Alaska

[@TWC6724]

I would like to find a used PA 12. I wonder what the average used price would be?

[@sportfishingCengizandnature]

Very good ❤👍

[@oscarespinosa6583]

Hello 🙋‍♂️ I always follow your great videos . How many miles I can go from shore in hobie pro angler 12 in good weather conditions.

[@FaisalJan]

Thanks for the explanation. If you could advise me, which one is better in open water? Outback or pro angels 14 ? Stability is important. Thanks

[@kristinefischer2289]

14 ! For sure

[@TheWaymont]

Been hearing a lot about the Pro Angler 360 drive mechanism breaking down a so much and being not covered by the warranty. Anyone else having issues?

[@eugenejohnson8635]

I like the 14” ft pro Angler and put a 2.5 - 3 hp Mercury or a Honda four stroke on the back of that kayak plus I would put a 45 lbs trolling motor where the pedals go’s and that’s why if I get one I wouldn’t get a 360 kayak I just get the 180 I seen them on KZbin channel but I haven’t seen them anymore I don’t know where they went with 2.5-3 h Honda plus I looking at a twin troller x10 check them out too Madison Indiana where they build a map I live 20 miles from where they are

[@pilotguy1141]

Love my Bonafide 127 always wanted a Hobie but it's apples to oranges ones pedal drive ones pedal drive. I would love to get my hands on a pa14 at least a used one but even at that just way out of my price range right now

[@kristinefischer2289]

Right, they make good products too! Keep your eye out for some good deals on used ones, the pro angler is AMAZING. A good friend of mine who river fishes went from a bonafide to a Hobie PA and he said it changed the way he was able to fish. He’s won like 15k in a month fishing tourneys already 😂😂

[@pilotguy1141]

@@kristinefischer2289 I'm keeping my eye out for Hobee's I don't fish tournaments I'm big into Back bays and saltwater fishing

[@maxcole3930]

Always good vids, Had my PA12 for 5 yrs now. I'm about to move to SC. I've been looking at pa12 180 & 360. Thinking of sticking to 12 but now considering the 14. To many options!??

[@kristinefischer2289]

I love the 360- but like I said, had I never gotten into one, I would have been happy with the 180!

[@maxcole3930]

Thanks for your time, I actually already sold my 2015 pa12 & purchased a 2021 PA12 360! & Absolutely love it!!! Be moving to Aiken SC next month, new fishing adventures about to begin. Advice on places to go??

[@MSmith-jf5wo]

Having submerged stumps all over the lake I live by, I tried out a Hobie. Bent the "Flippers" within 5 minutes...! Went ahead and bought a Titan 10.5, but it doesn't track NEAR as good as ANY of the ones by Hobie! (Wish they had that Pro-Drive out when I bought the Titan, but that might be in my NEXT 'Yak...!) Love the "Break-Down" on the Hobies, and Happy Fishing. (Maybe I'll see you and OLA up at the Kayak Fishing thing, this Fall...?)

[@kristinefischer2289]

.... you should have waited. The kick up fins solved the issue 100 percent!!! They are AMAZING. Can’t beat the mirage drive !

[@MSmith-jf5wo]

@@kristinefischer2289 Probably should've waited, but what do "they" say: "Hind-Sight 20-20?" Haha! Think I'll talk with owner of local OMTC this Winter, and get the 12' PA - Full Up, with everything.

[@modzero4935]

Hobie needs to make the interior of the Outback similar to the Pro 12 and add horizontal rod storage for those of us who can "barely" afford these boats. Both the pros series are way too expensive.

[@kristinefischer2289]

Keep your eye out for some deals on used PAs.. I’ve seen some phenomenal deals out there on them! It would be cool to get horizontal storage on that outback though!!

[@modzero4935]

@@kristinefischer2289 or at least widen the hull or narrow up the seat some. There's no room between the seat and the H-rail when installed on the outback to use a rod rack or any other accessories. Thanks for the info 👍

[@georgequinn5762]

I've followed you for a while now and was wondering have you ever tried a Red Fish Tornament, im in the Panhandle of Florida and we have a Pretty Big Group of Anglers salt and fresh ..

[@meraioanvasile3635]

Love the kayak, but with the price that is in Europe and the salary that I have is to much. But maybe one of this days will afford one

[@huronchess4810]

Thank you so much for this video! I am going to consider getting one. Would a PA15 accomodate an electric trolling motor as another locomotion option?

[@kristinefischer2289]

Yes! Several guys I know put a trolling motor on their PA 14 s! They handle really well. There are also stern mounts for torqueedos!

[@huronchess4810]

Thank you

[@politicalmechanic9501]

So I’m guessing PA14 is better for fishing saltwater around bridges

[@williewideback]

i drop by hoping they had the Hobie pro 17 Tandem "AKA" the battleship

[@kirkpettersen1829]

Do you know the difference in how deep they run? I fish rivers with rafters and sometimes we drag over rocks. I am just wondering which boat sits high, the wider/heaver 14 or the lighter/narrower 12? Any help would be great.

[@joevogle]

Kristine, it would be greatly appreciated if you would review the Outback. Thank you!

[@kristinefischer2289]

I will do that this week!!

[@joevogle]

Kristine Fischer thank you, we can always count on you! You are an inspiration to us all and very down to earth! I enjoy each of your videos!! Keep up the great work and know you and your efforts are appreciated!

[@PS-vk1db]

There's a lot of things to like about a Hobie Pro angler. only complaint OVERPRICED. I ended up with a 14 ft Zodiac type that is gonna get pimped out over the winter.

[@kristinefischer2289]

I think they are well worth the cash! But I hear you, it’s a lot for a yak! But man they rock to fish out of

[@PS-vk1db]

@@kristinefischer2289 I've wanted to try a pro angler for about 5 years now and they keep on getting better. The drive system is very impressive.

[@FlechaPeixe]

Tem representante no Brasil, como faço para comprar um minha amiga ?

[@outdoorsman4245]

For the cost of the hobie pa 12 or PA 14 would I be better off to just get a used solid 16 foot flat bottom jon boat and a good used 9.9 outboard and a good spot lock trolling motor? Might cost a little more but sure would give me the ability to go miles and run alot of water. Right? Any suggestions? Ps I have a vibe seaghost 110. And I see already covering water paddling is tough and have to pick my days on water bc of wind waves boats etc

[@kristinefischer2289]

Goood question- here’s my take on it. I cover 10 miles a day fairy easy in my PA. It’s easy to haul around, and it can access any waters I want without restrictions. With a jon boat and motor, you aren’t able to drag those anywhere to fish, they are much heavier, require licensing and gas ;)

[@outdoorsman4245]

Good answer kristine. Thank you so much for your input. Love your channel. How easy is it for you to hold on a spot in current or wind in a hobie PA 12 or your PA 14?

[@cwolf8841]

Hmmm why not a clear ‘window’ in the hull?

[@fysh1945]

Will there be a PA 10???!!! Please say yes. It would be great if you could put your GoPro underwater and show how the Mirage drive cuts through weeds.

[@kristinefischer2289]

I will do that! Honestly you’d want the 12! A 10’ kayak isn’t near as far or as stable

[@phuocyoutran]

The pa14 is actually more maneuverable cause of the 360 drive

[@kristinefischer2289]

Right- but the PA 12 360 is still more maneuverable than the 14!

[@badfishingbissanschlagdril3637]

😎👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@jasonpinatello1400]

Can you transport a PA 12 on a car roof top or does it require a trailer for transport? I currently drive a honda CRV

[@kristinefischer2289]

You can, but it isn’t super easy!

[@thomasjarosz7406]

Kristine, Have you ever had issues of the hull cracking near the drive slot? I watch Elias V fishing he has had 2 break there. He fishes the ocean a lot .He also has a lot of issues with the mirage drives breaking. He carries 2 drives a lot because of that. Prayers sent for your healing. God bless

[@kristinefischer2289]

I’ve never even heard of a hull crack ...my fiancé is the southeast sales rep and he hasn’t either.. Hobie warranties that though! As for the drive, the new mirage with kick up is SOLID. All drives with all brands have their issues, the mirage drive seems to have less though

[@thomasjarosz7406]

Kristine, here is the link kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4Koq4aDr9OnkJo kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIaslX6IqNhohbM God bless

[@rubenkayaks2469]

Thomas Jarosz he needs to find a deferent dealer or just has bad luck never heard of some one carrying 2 drives with them lol

[@thomasjarosz7406]

Ruben Kayaks, I've seen him paddle by hand when his Mirage drive broke 5 miles offshore in the ocean.(180 ) He fishes 3-5 days a week. I have nothing in this fight ,just saying what I watched. God bless

[@cdixon198]

The only cracking I have heard about is from the cart that goes into the scupper holes.

[@sethperkins3331]

Hey Kristine this may sound crazy, but you are an idiol of mine and I’m looking to get invoke in kayak fishing tournaments in Arkansas in 2022! I’m currently in Memphis TN.. could I buy your old hobbie since you just got that bad ass one? Or maybe during a contest!!! I had to ask. But in all honesty your my hero and if you could point me in the right direction to get a good affordable kayak to get me started I’d really appreciate it! I have one, but not set up for tournaments

[@kristinefischer2289]

Ah I just sold my old one! Wish I would have known! Shopping the used market is the way to save money- call dugout bait and tackle in Marietta Georgia - they might have a few used ones left!

[@kayakfishingforpredators9107]

I think the PA 14 would look nice with a GHOST front troller and two batteries on the back. No pedalling needed 😎👍

[@kristinefischer2289]

Spot lock and drop it ;)

[@brianschindlbeck2807]

Problem is then it's not really a kayak. Might just as well buy a small flat bottom boat.

[@modzero4935]

Yeah a Jonny Boat with a 2.5 HP motor about the same price as these but... IT HAS A MOTOR and can still go everywhere these can, just faster

[@modzero4935]

Not to mention the Old Towne Minn Kota edition that's still cheaper than a 360 and about $150 more than the Pro 14

[@kenwebster5053]

A hundred and what lbs! I have 2 13' kayaks I built in high school in the early 70s. They weigh 30lb and 40 lbs. I have a 17' 6" sea kayak of 40 something lbs, I'm in my 60s, weigh 136 lbs and can just lift any of them off the car rood racks and shoulder them to the water. No dolly, no wheels or trailer necessary. Yes, I do use them for fishing, they are all about 2' wide & stable enough for that purpose. Just think about the logistics here.......... Talk about ball and chain!

[@edgars00789]

Is the old Town kayak any good

[@linemanfish6166]

Please tell me where you got that awesome hat?!

[@kristinefischer2289]

Plano fishing!

[@JJones12175]

Why did you decide on a 14 over a 12?

[@joaquinvillanuevaiii9863]

Would you recommend these kayaks for ocean fishing?

[@kristinefischer2289]

Absolutely

[@mementoweet3625]

Hello . I wish you a good day Thanks for the information. Is it possible to ship to Libya?

[@kristinefischer2289]

Shoot I don’t know!

[@mementoweet3625]

@@kristinefischer2289 I am located in Tripoli, the capital There is no shooting in the capital. Do you have offers and prices?

[@DannyBFishing]

I basically just have to decide if I want to car top a PA 14 or 12 🤣

[@kristinefischer2289]

Oh man my thoughts are with you 😂😂

[@shadowdreams1360]

Supper

[@jrsfishing3200]

Wish I could just have one had to sell all my fishing stuff cause of covid

[@kristinefischer2289]

:( sorry to hear that man

[@tomlorenzen4062]

Why?

[@thajuai8282]

How much the kayak Indian rupee praise from Kerala

[@Francisco-ml6bl]

No Brasil tem esse tipo de que preço que custa

[@shadowdreams1360]

Feel free lure 11.5 .use offshore

[@VitaminDeeTV]

12ft island vs 14ft island! 🏖 🤣

[@VitaminDeeTV]

I have the 14 btw.

[@carlossaenz6946]

So my wife wants to know, how old sre those kids you spoke about?

[@kristinefischer2289]

I’ve had a 10 year old sit on my front hatch

[@kristinefischer2289]

Weight capacity is 600 lbs, so whatever fits within that range ! Could be an even older kid

[@kkutube1972]

@@kristinefischer2289 I have the 14 and we actually had 2 boys on and also my wife. One in the hatch, one sit on mommy's lap. I installed an outrigger so we don't flip. I have a 2014. Not it is either mom or wife. I think 14 on a jet ski trailer is best.

[@davidblack5551]

TO EXPENSIVE and To HEAVY

[@kristinefischer2289]

I load and unload them just fine and I weigh less than them 😂😂

[@davidblack5551]

@@kristinefischer2289 . But don't you have a trailer for your Kayak ??

[@mikekpow4617]

@@davidblack5551 she loads them in the back of her truck my dude.

[@backwatermcfly7930]

I’m in Covington Georgia, I have wanted a hobie for years, the price point though.....

[@phillipporter5078]

Bass boat price with truck made this an easy choice for me.

[@backwatermcfly7930]

Phillip Porter, really tho. At the end of the day it’s self propelled and a lawn chair. Cut the price to something more affordable. I love kayak fishing. But given the options of how to spend 4K, definitely not thinking kayak

[@kristinefischer2289]

You should stop by the dugout in Marietta and just demo one, they’ve got a pond there. Kayak fishing is something special !

[@edgars00789]

I wish I could own one but I'm a very poor man

[@allelbenziada6599]

👌👌👌👌🌻😜😉😉😉

[@briantrice8192]

Its Hobie or nothing .....in my opinion nothing compares>>>

[@kristinefischer2289]

Lots of companies making great options - I’ve tried them all though and I’d have to agree with you! The mirage drive is second to none

[@thegooniverse495]

NEITHER. Hobie used to be innovators, but this line has been stagnant for a decade while going up thousands of dollars. They used to be so far ahead of everyone else it wasn't even a question, now the quality control has gone to shittttttttttttt, the price has skyrocketed, and every other brand is letting out more innovative products. I'd take a much cheaper titan X over the both of these... and I mean both like if someone offered me two hobies or ones titan x I am going with the titan.

[@zanderferretti9065]

Don't buy a hobie go with minn kota old town way better. Trust me hobies are 4700 a top of the line old town is 4000 a that comes with a minn kota i pilot so if your fishing 🎣 windy waters it can act as a anchor ⚓.

[@kristinefischer2289]

Hey Zander! The old town is a great boat no doubt, but many kayak tourneys don’t allow trolling motors, and the Hobie mirage drive is the best out there.. not to mention the layout of the pro angler makes for an unparalleled fishing platform!! 👍

[@TWC6724]

@@kristinefischer2289 I like the fact you don’t have to register your kayak as long as a trolling motor isn’t on it.

[@88joshuajohnathan]

And you can only rely on that trolling motor. There are mounts for hobbies so you can have both.

[@NFiltr8Red]

$4000.........that’s a decent down payment on a Lund Renegade and your payments are under $150 a month. This is coming from someone who bought a Hobie Mirage tandem. I’m selling mine at a loss and getting a big boy Bass Boat.

[@kristinefischer2289]

Ah the kayak will miss you! I’ll get a boat one day as well, but I love fishing from the kayak!

[@videojoe7]

@@kristinefischer2289 As an old man (60), I've fished out of many types of boats here in Florida. My 16' canoe was one of the best. I can't wait to try a ProAngler 12.

[@kf4293]

Oof. Wow those things are heavy... And expensive. Video work left something to be desired. I'll fish a whole day with two or three rods... Why the devil do y'all need SIX? 🤣

[@sov19871987]

tooooo big.Bring back Revolution 16 😢

[@tomallen6073]

Just buy a used one, let someone else take the original hit.

[@johnfire499]

Get a real boat!!! Sold mines, biggest useless piece of equipment i ever bought.

[@paulsammut6176]

Yet here you are, lurking on a kayak hobie page.... maybe move on and enjoy your "boat"...