Power Queen 100Ah LiFePO4 RV | Off Grid Battery Review [Teardown]

[@HOBOTECH]

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[@501promo]

Bought a 2-pack of that same PG today for $334.00 Tax+ incl. ...thanks for the edu

[@aantosca]

Power Queen has Updated! I just bought their Power Queen 12.8V 100Ah LiFePO4, Upgraded Low Temperature Cut-off Function battery. Black-Friday / cyber Monday for $246 on Amazon. They are listening to the Professor!!!

[@robsteve7043]

I'm glad you started doing teardowns!

[@andrewmartin6404]

I bought a Power Queen 200ah lifepo from Amazon. After 3 days of having it I got a call from a customer service lady asking if everything was good with my purchase. Pretty cool that they care enough to follow up on your purchase.

[@GroovyVideo2]

Thanks for cutting battery open - its important to me to see build quality inside

[@clarencewiles963]

By doing this, the manufacturers are taking note. We are seeing improvements to their products. Yes its been very hard to see good stuff get pulled apart 😂 but it’s to our advantage. We get better products. And look at HOBOS equipment for testing, he’s getting bigger and better 😎

[@imaninerrah3127]

I didn’t vote for tear down, but I’m finding it WAY more helpful than I expected . Thank you for the effort !

[@kele1264]

Exactly the same here!

[@Prometheusable]

Thank you for opening it up. I was thinking it would be the smaller C size cells.

[@dlbracer56]

Your examination confirms what I had seen on another influencers channel. He swears by the Power Quenn batteries.

[@kele1264]

The fact that you determined that this battery is very well built is definitely a decision influence. Thanks for you time and effort! ODIN!!!!

[@racingtogreen2023]

We've been pleased over a year and a half with our 12v 200ah powerqueens. Enough that we just bought 4 more for an EV/Garage AC system we're putting together.

[@robertlueke3238]

I bought 2 of these back in December 2022 and have them connected in series for 24V. Connect this to my 24V to 48V DC to DC converter which is plugged into my AC200P to add capacity when needed. My initial testing showed 101AH each battery. They are doing great so far. They were $299.99 back then, plus I received one of their LFP 12.8V 6Ah batteries free with each purchase. Good deal.

[@vinroc]

Sounds way more cost effective than bluetti’s own expansion batteries

[@stedyone1090]

My same exact thought​@@vinroc

[@Banagal]

I was impressed by the tear-down, though I did not vote for it. Based on the tear-down I would purchase this battery. Since I'm currently running Battleborn batteries I have no current need for additional batteries. Thanks Hobotech!

[@solarmeateater]

Hearing your price and seeing other prices in the comments make me wonder why I even just bought this for $179. It'll probably be $149 by the time i check the price again. Solar and battery tech are some of very few things in this world that have a continually swelling bang for buck.

[@gregyohngy]

I think opening up the battery proves that the product is good. You get to see the quality of the wires internally and the BMS. You also can test the low-temperature cut off. Plenty of DIY people have built battery banks that look a lot worse than after you reassemble the battery.

[@pdieppa]

Awesome. Thanks for the intro sfx!

[@oibal60]

Thanks again. Wow, an 100Ah. I've a 22Ah in my car Jumpstarter and it's a beast!

[@lowmanite]

Thank you. While I appreciate being able to peek inside of the battery, I hate seeing something brand new torn apart. It just did not look at pretty when you put it back together. I appreciate the hours you put into these reviews. You have saved me a ton of money, and that is why I am a Patreon supporter. Keep up the great work.

[@ChatGPT1111]

Geez, OCD much?😂😂😂

[@kele1264]

@@ChatGPT1111 Jerk much? Fking trolls.

[@719vol]

aVe has entered the chat. If you dislike this guy, you’ll hate aVe.😂

[@bfast54]

Well....he could have GLUED IT back up,and you would Never know.😊

[@TrashPanda-fh7cj]

Awesome review thanks hobotech for taking time to do this👍

[@sxty8chrgr]

Yeeesss! The original intro is back!!!

[@ICON666]

Great review as always and thanks for the teardown from Germany! I like to see, not only to measure, what's inside of these!

[@MichaelCook1981]

Seems like a good quality battery. I have a Dokota lithium 100ah battery. If I decide to buy another battery it’ll most likely be one of these since it’s almost 1/3 the price and has a 5 year warranty.

[@Tjensen999]

The tape is the Apogee of the whole video!! 😂😂

[@markmonroe7330]

Excellent review. Many thanks. Would love to see the Power Queen "mini" premium v2 100ah version tested and broken down. Li Time, Redodo and others are doing the 19lb mini versions now with a 10.24x5.24x8.96 footprint. This really, really helps in a truck/van/camping situation. That said, Sun Fun Kits has a compact and lightweight 300ah battery that would be worth testing - SFK-300HP.

[@kennb.3389]

Great review. Have my 100AH Power Queen in trailer for over a month, off grid 200 watt solar . Works great. Thanks for the video.

[@Circuitprotector]

Thank you! I just ordered one with low temperature cutoff from Amazon. $250 with tax total. I hope I like it.

[@genuinetuffguy1854]

The teardown was very helpful - hopefully the battery was mostly depleted when you did it 👍 I was looking at Battleborn and Dakota Lithium, but PowerQueen seems like a good inexpensive option.

[@bfast54]

He posted IT WAS DISCHARGED...on the screen 😅

[@Aspire2Cycle]

Awesome review, thank you! I used you discount code and just purchase the Power Queen 100Ah battery to be used in a Licitti 1000 watt Power Box with a 100 watt solar panel. Just starting out with solar and wanting to find a small system I could build to charge my cordless tools, cameras, cell phones, tablet, etc. Didn't want waste $$$ on cheap SLA batteries and trying to keep budget low but still use quality products. I stumbled across your video and just watched it, and just described. Love what you're doing, keep up the great work! And thanks for the discount code ♥️ Kendra

[@Paulwilliams203]

It made me cry to see you break open the battery, but if that’s what others wish to see then who am I to argue. Just seems wasteful, great review though 👍🏻

[@melissasmess2773]

Will P. does it too, don’t sweat it, you didn’t buy it 😂

[@TheCornucopiaProject-bd5jk]

It’s still being used, so it’s not wasted. I’d rather have a few review channels tear them down to hold manufacturers accountable instead of all of us guessing what quality we are getting.

[@advancedxdirective]

Il admit, I voted against a tear down but I will also admit I am impressed with the build quality revealed from it. If you can find a way to not make it wasteful than i'll support tear downs

[@nerys71]

although. if you PP'd 4 of them you have 400amps constant 800 amps for a short time and 1200 amps for a few second (more than enough to start a car at either 800 or 1200 amps) just don't do it with a larger or a diesel engine in say the winter.

[@earlsmithers8987]

Just ordered the mini version.

[@mojorider8455]

Vid description says he disassembles the battery in this one? Interesting

[@donhaas8547]

I don’t need the tear down to make a decision. I need cold temperature charge protection. I want to put lithium batteries on the front of my travel trailer. We travel to Florida from Ohio in the winter when it is below freezing. I hate see a good battery ruined by cutting it open.😩

[@michael_the_chef]

Make sure, if you connect them in series, to balance them once or twice a year, just connect them in parallel for an hour, before you do that, check the voltages of every Individual battery. Because if the voltages are to far apart, hundreds of amps could flow from one to another and cause harm to them or yourself.

[@jimrodda]

Hi Tom,on your bench you have an alien sitting on a tap that looks like it's filling the holy grail 🤣🤣🤣🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@gsp49]

Bob Wells video on this same battery sent me back here to watch this again after his presentation. What he got for more cheap RV living backup.

[@JR-kk6ce]

Thanks for breaking it down. That's the only real way to find out which is better.

[@ufhkbikes]

Awesome review .. I just got one , now can I add that to my deep cycle lead acid battery ?

[@brushbum7508]

Thanx again Tom ! TAKE CARE..

[@gsp49]

Hope to head to Quartzite come January.

[@dannybockius2255]

You should do a give away of the battery you took apart but piece by piece lol. Someone gets 1 cell, someone else gets the lid, someone can get the bms.. itll be fun!

[@dannybockius2255]

Definately sign each piece too

[@nathanbanks2354]

When you tear it apart, could you test the temperature sensor for over-temperature/under-temperature (if applicable)?

[@lowrangeoverland9013]

great review❗💯👍🏆

[@stevetuttle5472]

Excellent review, have you had a chance to look at the “mini” version of this battery? If so what are your thoughts on it? Thank you!

[@e3ucxp]

Thanks for the review! Why do they limit 4 batteries in parallel? I wanted to parallel 6 batteries for 600 amp @12v...

[@Umi-imU-We-Are-One]

I would also to know.

[@vandela177]

Excellent review.

[@henrycarlson7514]

Interesting , Thank You . Thank You for the testing , and teardown

[@SB-by7de]

theres others that do take them apart, you can search and find them, better to give the batteries away, than not to be able to use them

[@n3evpn3evp]

I'm wondering if this battery could be used in an electric car where the 12 volt battery is isolated from the propulsion battery and is only used to power the car's electronics.

[@AdamFrugoli]

The teardown was awesome!!

[@TheCornucopiaProject-bd5jk]

What is the reason for 4S 4P limits?

[@jonnyreach8345]

I just bought the PQ 100ah mini. It looks like it's probably the exact same guts just without the foam and in a non standard outer case.

[@markmonroe7330]

Would love to see a break down to know for sure. I really want one of the mini v2 units.

[@FloatingSpots]

Not quite. The minis use 16 25 ahr pouch cells.

[@mikemarchand7766]

Thank you for the ongoing insights. I have an off topic question that I hope you can assist? Is it better to discharge my power station to let’s say 20 % than charge it back up to 85% or can I just leave it plugged into my car as it is now at 65% and I use my car every day for 20 minutes so it slowly charges back up every day maybe 10 %. Is this harmful to the power station? Thanking you in advance :)

[@franklinbrown7389]

When you going to charge it on a raw 12v solar panel?

[@stlphotoandvideo]

I purchased 2 of their 100Ah Premium batteries last year. They weren't self heating so I thought what can it hurt to purchase a automotive battery wrap for over the winter. I connected a thermostat to it so it would only come on below freezing. This was probably the dumbest thing I have ever done in my life. I deformed the outside case of both batteries. I later learned I can't use lead acid battery warmers. My batteries still charge and discharge okay but did I do any long term damage?

[@Stealthnomad007]

I have my Dr Prepare hooked up to my Bluetti ab3 and charge it from both solar, car and at times directly from my bluetti. Can I add this battery in series to the Dr Prepare?

[@HOBOTECH]

No

[@terrywaters6186]

The battery is not destroyed. It can easily be sealed back up. A plastic welder would make it like new.

[@Fattrucker]

Thanks for the video . Especially the teardown . I'd love to see some teardowns of some solar generators too in the future please . As of 26/06/2023 this is $480.87 for the 100Ah and $1103.94 for the 200Ah . Bonus free shipping though. Also price includes any taxes too . Welcome to rip off Britain . Fattrucker

[@guyinacrappyvan]

if you had to buy 400 Ah of batteries for van life (either 4 100 or 2 200) what would your choice be today as far as price, quality, and features?

[@HOBOTECH]

I did answer that in the video ...

[@WhenTheManComesAround]

Might want to put teardown as the first word in the title. If i didn't look real close at the thumbnail i wouldn't have known. But, you are much more successful on KZbin than i am, so my advice is only worth what ya paid me 😂 🍻 Keep rockin my friend 👍

[@alanreyes29]

Anymore discount codes?

[@yand3151]

Can you review the mini version of this 100 ah battery

[@lawrencedavidson6195]

@ HOBOTECH I was told that you can only use a maximum of four of these batteries in parallel, is this so? And why is it so? I'm currently running five of them in parallel and they are working ok, but should i continue? Or reduce the bank to four?

[@Bullfrog_TX]

I want to upgrade a project golf cart to lithium. Its 36v. What battery would you go with Hobo? Would you recommend these power queens?

[@mannyfragoza9652]

interesting to see the Hobo go head hunter on the battery giving it a lobotomy

[@leonparadiz3866]

could i charge this in a van with 180ah alternator ?

[@v1d9uy]

id love to see some videos on different budget minded RV replacement lithium charge converters. as i was under the assumption untill recently like alot of ppl that theses are drop in replacements and thats not entirely true

[@HOBOTECH]

You mean like this? kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqq2mIiPps-gpZo

[@v1d9uy]

@@HOBOTECH i did watch that video I was thinking a direct replacement for the factory charge controller so i can charge from shore power. I will also want a mppt charge controller I was looking into the bougerv one.

[@williamlo3249]

What AC charger do you recommend? Is 20A good enough?

[@-marcel]

@ 7:50 6 AWG on 100A max discharge rate !?

[@cryptidsearchinvestigations]

Can you do a test on the ECO-WORTHY 48V 50ah golf cart battery, please? Thanks

[@coloradoprofessionalinspec720]

Do you think one of these would replace standard Deep Cell batteries. I have two mounted near the tongue of my travel trailer. I'm trying to get some of the weight off the tongue. Do you think one of these would replace the two that I have? Also do you think I can charge them off of my RV charger and hook them directly to the fuse block?

[@HOBOTECH]

Yes. I did this with my travel trailer.

[@tikoy1955]

Great review video.

[@244rem]

Great video and evaluation! I am trying to decide on whether to purchase two 12V 100AH or one 12V 200AH Power Queen. What is your recommendation? Are there pros and cons to each? Thanks again for the videos!

[@HOBOTECH]

One battery requires less wiring. Two batteries might fit better into a small space.

[@NatureZone101]

Thanks for the great review. It is nice to see what's inside once in a while - appreciate that. Gotta pick one up before 7/4 for sure! Curious, are these actually the same company as Redodo because the website is exactly the same website?

[@BobTheGod44]

I have a couple of question..... #1 I will soon be converting my motorhome over to lithium batteries. I know you can't start the motorhome engine with lithium batteries. However I have an emergency start switch that connects the house batteries to assist the engine battery if it gets low and won't start. Will this work? #2 I have an Onan Generator (4000 watt) that uses the house battery to start it. Can the lithium battery start this motor? Thanks in advance.

[@HOBOTECH]

I think I said it will start a generator in the review.

[@RichardDuke-d6y]

If I Velcro a piece of wood on top , I guess it would be ok to stack them up ?

[@DeliberateNRandom]

Why would you do that? Why wouldn't you build a rack? Where are you using them?

[@danya822]

Can you comment on lawn tractors? Is the BMS capable of "refusing" to charge when full? I'll have to do the legwork to see about the cranking load, but I expect its relatively low. Unfortunately the way the LiFePo4 batteries are being marketed (home depot, im talking about you) they dont address this, then act like they dont understand the question when asked.

[@merlinlucas8280]

Time is valuable. We don't need to watch the clock hands movement. Otherwise, I like your videos.

[@steveschneider2112]

Dude, you are my go to guy for all things Lifepo4 related! I mean that Will Prowse guy is okay but you are the Hobotech Lithium god! I say that tongue in cheek! Don’t want to piss off the big guy “not Biden” haha

[@johnbarton4594]

Professor Hobo, I absolutely love all your videos you do for the public. I am subscribed for sure. Question, I am going to be in Quartzite this year and would love to know where you will be set up, and meet you. I would also love to maybe have a chance to see what you will have for sale, if you are selling any items you test. Thank you John.

[@HOBOTECH]

That information will be shared in a video in January.

[@BIOIV]

awesome, just bought one because of your video

[@Kerli-or9un]

Are you happy with the battery? Planning to buy it and would be nice to know if you liked it

[@BIOIV]

@@Kerli-or9un it's great!

[@billarroo]

Well I guess I'm going to have to trade my Trojan 6 volt batteries, that im tired of filling them with water for a couple of PowerQueen 12volt batteries !! Thanks

[@EEEE33333]

Have you reviewed any of these supposed 460 and 480AH batteries from Litime and this new brand on Amazon called Langetur?

[@e7yu]

Very Impressive, Thanks.

[@jpmo82]

why cant add 8 of these in series + parellel? regards.

[@steveschneider2112]

Thanks!

[@spockmcoyissmart961]

Hi all, I purchased 4 of these 100ah 12v batteries and connected in series into my MPPSolar inverter. I have 1 inverter and am not using any fancy remote battery management system. I tried using the lithium program of the inverter to charge these batteries, but it goes into alarm because I can't use the series cable to attach to the batteries. Since there is no place to plug in the cable into the batteries. I am using the 'user defined' battery program. There is a built in BMS in the batteries, but I don't know what it does exactly. Nothing visual. My question is about the charge/bulk/float/low cut out/high cut out/voltage to return when the batteries recover. I'm using the generic setting of 54 volts for the battery system, but the batteries are always charging and never get over 2 of 4 bars. I'm guessing this is due to not having all of the settings correct for this system. I'm only using 0-25% of the inverter capacity, so I'm not draining the batteries to zero. Power Queen doesn't respond to emails. Does anyone have any suggestions on setting these up? I just sent an email to MPP Solar and am waiting for a response. I did fully charge each battery independently, then connected in parallel to complete the balancing before hooking in series to my inverter. Thank you in advance for any comments!

[@longsleevethong1457]

Would this work in a vehicle?

[@stedyone1090]

Thanks for sharing 👍

[@kellys8757]

can you tell me the difference between this battery Power Queen 12.8V 100Ah Low-Temp LiFePO4 Battery Perfect for Trolling Motor, Built-in 100A BMS and the battery that I just purchased on Amazon Power Queen 4 Pack 12.8V 100Ah LiFePO4 Battery, Built-in 100A BMS, Lithium Battery 5120Wh, 4000 to 15000 Cycles, Support in Series/Parallel, widely used .. I plan to run three of these in series for my 36v Lowrance Ghost Trolling motor, but now I am worried there is some difference that I should have gotten the one that I described above. Could you please share with me what the difference is? Thank you sir.

[@daviddenson3324]

Ok so where is that link to the solar charge controllers that provide low temp shut off like you said you would link???

[@HOBOTECH]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqq2mIiPps-gpZo

[@daviddenson3324]

@@HOBOTECH thanks!

[@Mr.Avuncular]

Dear Professor Hobo: will there ever be a triple or quad fist test in the future?BANG BANG BANG/ BANG ANGBA GBANGBANG, GLOVE FELL OFF🤣

[@MakeKasprzak]

Magnets 😂

[@corcorandm]

Links zwo drei vear

[@VoteDemocracy]

I was surprised to see aluminum bars connecting the cells inside this battery. Aluminum is about 60% conductive compared to Copper. Of course aluminum bars weigh less than copper which helps reduce the overall weight of the battery. Disclaimer, this is my first time seeing inside an LifoPO battery so I don’t have anything to compare my observation to. Ps. Melting points (f): aluminum 1,200, copper 2,000.

[@onthelake9554]

Aluminum buss bars is a standard in these . The posts of the cells are aluminum so it makes welding the bars in easier .

[@HOBOTECH]

Yep and aluminum is cheaper. All you have to do is double the thickness vs copper to provide the same or better conductivity. Melting point doesn't matter. If your battery is over 1000 degrees it's already on fire.

[@craigfrancis8336]

just so you know, warranty is worthless, if you have trouble, all you are going to get us an email at 1 AM from China, no support at all from the states.

[@bigdog7914]

Not playing around anymore I see

[@vandela177]

After watching this a 2nd time, I purchased a 2nd battery. Now I ned a decent charger for them.

[@joebachmeier6747]

Wow. Very good analysis. You might only release information about the guts to subscribers or people that pay.

[@alanreyes29]

Whatched the video bc im trying to buy a battery for trolling motor

[@livinginthenow]

I subscribed, but only because cats are our overlords and I fear what would happen to me if I disobeyed.