Hockey Fight!!! "What leads to it"

2017 Pekin Flyers Invitational Tournament.
Hoffman Estates Coyotes vs. Towanda Maple Leafs (W 13-3)
Coyotes/White (13), Maple Leafs/Blue (3)
Veteran Memorial Ice Arena
October 21, 2017
Pekin, IL
Head Coach: Steve Centers
Asst. Coach: Bobby Blendow
Asst. Coach; Dominic Williams
www.timberwolveshockey.com
1685 W. Higgins Rd., Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
HOFFMAN ESTATES
TIMBERWOLVES HOCKEY CLUB

[@InqWiper]

Whoever only started complaining when the kid fought back needs a hard slap in the face.

[@aleksejjovanovic986]

@Thomas Snyder Welcome to the new age.

[@brockyhockey]

Yea all of a sudden it's OMG HEY OMG. We teach Brock the Golden Rule. Do on to other as other do on to you!

[@taylorunger7541]

agreed the blue team started it

[@brandoncolis3841]

I am sure there were adults on both sides.

[@drizzdrazz]

EXACTLY what i was thinking.... dude was literally screwing with him the entire time, that stick to the face was the last straw for that poor kid haha, should have the right to defend himself against bullies like that...he let SO much stuff slide without doing anything back.. but at this day in age..... so sad people cant stand up for themselves anymore

[@tod1045]

Being a hockey official for over 25 years I can tell you you don't see everything.......but....you don't miss all this either. Those two shouldn't be out there.

[@obenwahkenobib8899]

I see it every weekend. Refs either over call(rare but preferred). Or they wait until there is a non hockey penalty; and they respond by usually throwing out a kid who has been slashed/tripped/boarded repeatedly and gets tossed when he has enough and defends himself because the ref isnt. And leagues or associations are too scared to file complaints; so it perpetuates.

[@grumpyshorts1056]

@@obenwahkenobib8899 I see it too. I think there needs to be a review every game. The new checking rules are being completely ignored at a lot of our High School JV games. Some kids are just flying around hitting to be hitting. Sticks have to be below their knees and they have to be making some sort of play at the puck per the USA Hockey association videos. My grandson was out for 4 wks due to an illegal hit from an angle from behind. Not only an illegal hit, but charging as well as he came from across center ice to catch him on a dump in, put him into the wall. Straned MCL. He was hit from behind the shift earlier and should have been boarding... NOT CALLS! I watch those same two in other games and they are always in the box.

[@Glennyco]

There isn't enough refs anywhere. You'll be lucky to anyone. So be careful about getting rid of them.

[@Proxyy7]

I'm considering wearing a go-pro in my beer league, not because I'm good, but because the reffing has become so egregious I feel like I need to show the league and ask them how they think it is okay

[@grumpyshorts1056]

@@Proxyy7 If they know you have a camera, they're gonna act like angles! :-) They do get abused sometimes, but sometimes they deserve it!!! It's like driving and you blow your horn at some idiot for running a stop sign, calling them out on it and you get flipped off for recognizing their stupidity.

[@MrNattyProductions]

It's amazing how important and impactful youth coaching is. Two polar opposite examples right here. Team in white often looking to their bench after something happens, as if to ask "What is going on out here?" and the blue team, well...a lot needs to change for those kid's mindset.

[@pushinp535]

I'm not gonna lie, coaching is important but some kids are naturally just assholes on the ice. I had great coaches, but I was always that kid on the ice who just wanted to fuck somebody up. I wasn't particularly skilled at scoring goals and laying kids flat was the only way I felt I can benefit my team. It wasn't until I broke someone's leg in what was pretty much a blatant boarding call, ending that kids season after his parents drove him 4 hours to play. I felt so bad and realized I had to change the way I play. I still sucked, but I wasn't out there to take someone's head off on every play. The kid really reminded me of my atom hockey days lol. Either way I don't think anybody should play like this, but some people are just natural assholes.

[@taxicamel]

Why don't you say what you mean to say? "...a lot needs to change for those kid's mindset." ...says absolutely nothing. It sounds like YOU could be a part of the problem throughout today's hockey.

[@brianlacroix822]

one hundred per cent. @1:00 right when he started kicking the kid's ass the bench told him to stop and he did woahhhhhhhhh

[@theaestheticcactus7889]

It's not even a coaching issue, some kids just bring their bad attitudes with them wherever they go, couple that in with those obsessive parents that won't settle for anything less than their little crotch goblins being 1st draft pick and it's a recipe for disaster

[@MrNattyProductions]

@@taxicamel What I mean to say? Those kids need to have their mindsets changed which is exactly what I said. That starts with parenting and coaching. How can you see my comment and assume I'm part of the problem? What are you the blue teams coach or something? You must love a good slew foot.

[@coalhair99]

shame on the blue team coach. When I played, you'd sit on the bench if you pulled crap like this. And my old man would ensure I never played like this again IF the coach didn't correct the problem.

[@asilentninja]

My guess is, you didn’t make The Show.

[@chucknorris5141]

My guess is the coach is teaching it to them. Disgusting.

[@hazysativa3045]

Yep, this is all coaching and parents teaching this style of hockey. Setting these kids up for failure at the higher levels. No one wants this BS at the AAA level.

[@coalhair99]

@@hazysativa3045 OMG, i LOVE your icon, i had one of those matcbox cars growing up, what a blast from the past!!!

[@hazysativa3045]

@ What does that mean? You have play like a rat to be a real hockey player? That isnt even 'tough' hockey. I think someone watched Slapshot and thought it was a true story.

[@scj8863]

That blue team has some DIRTY players. Really gross to see, especially in kids this young.

[@jerryjerraldy6440]

lol

[@liampett1313]

No the kids are just from Boston.

[@carsenrhodes6333]

Oh well what the heck

[@liammonaghan4785]

@@liampett1313 well we are the best at hockey so it works out

[@barlowmarshall6088]

they were great clean hits, good to see

[@ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid]

lmao @ how quickly the kid stopped punching in response to the yelling. That dude's grounded 100% 🤣

[@1976jdk]

I'd of got him ice-cream if I was his dad.

[@jakeseay6576]

I would not have punished him I would have congratulated him for attacking the person who kept tripping him

[@sthylus7]

he shouldn't be, he wasn't in the wrong

[@themonsterunderyourbed9408]

If that was my kid, I'd buy him a PS5.

[@chucktastic2359]

Can you blame the kid for throwing punches? They're aggravated, their coach is aggravated and the sportsmanship of the blue team is atrocious.

[@backacha1]

its cuz blue hit him in the head with his stick, then white threw punches

[@albrown9609]

they need to get over it , you don't throw punches at your boss when you get aggravated. It's never ok to fight.

[@Preivous]

@@albrown9609 Its a CHILD

[@thatoneguy9666]

@@albrown9609 you DO throw punches when you’re being assaulted with a weapon tho

[@skydaniels3784]

@@albrown9609 and that’s why you’re probably a pushover today

[@tox1c_w4st37]

The blue team is having a lot of tripping penaltys (Edit: Thx for 83 likes)

[@carsenrhodes6333]

LOL these kids don’t know what I’m doing

[@mikec886]

They didn't get called once

[@brirhieverything171]

The little league of Toronto maple leafs

[@gavinfortnite6701]

Yes about 99999999999999999999999999999

[@Disciple_Of_Lerxst]

No, they're doing a lot of tripping.

[@Jens95]

So the parents aren't going to walk onto the ice and drag their child off for attempting to hurt the other team?! Such a shame coaches can't really bench young players anymore because everyone needs to have equal playing time despite their on ice behavior....

[@djraymobilemusic118]

Is this a house league or travel game? Definitely not a pro game but thats where kids get bad ideas.

[@randomhuman8881]

I’m in a 14u and people get benched if they’re being a little punk though I do wish they did it more often

[@jeffhaggarty9879]

That is one problem, but a small one. The main problem here is absolutely pathetic officiating that lead to this problem in the first place. They lost control of the game.

[@coolhawk2003]

seems like the kid just learned how to stand up for himself. its a hard world

[@jasonfaulkner8644]

The parents of the blue team are probably Trump supporters. The sickness got into their kids.

[@bluecavemen]

No one said anything toward the blue kid. Good job to the white jersey kid.

[@0mattp0]

Can't wait to see the kids in blue wearing Bruins uniforms in a few years

[@MrWaalkman]

They're gonna go far!

[@RandomInternetGuy1011]

LOL, best comment

[@BarryFence]

How many kids did Marchand ('ol Slew Foot) have?

[@user-oc8sr3ml9m]

​@@BarryFenceYou mean Stanley cup champion, Hall of Famer. Captain Marchy??

[@bauerj3398]

Few years ago, my son was on a stacked PeeWee team. They were pounding most teams, but the coach was very cognizant about not embarrassing the other teams. Once we were up by 5 or 6, he would start pumping the brakes. Put defenders on offense and forwards back, no rushing the puck, top players would get less ice time, even having lefties and righties switch sticks. Well, we were playing a sectional game against a pretty bad team, who had a completely out of control punk on the team. His forte was the ref check, followed by slashing, cross checks to the head, etc., behind the play. Everybody in the rink saw what was going on, except for the refs (because of the kid doing ref checks before his sh1t). So, our coach called timeout, and specifically told the team to keep going hard and getting goals. 12-0, 14-0, 16-0. Their coach is looking down the line at our coach with his hands raised (like, what the hell are you doing?). Our coach replied with an epic line: "as long as #__ is on the ice, we are running it up".

[@EternityGamesVids]

What a legend. I played Hockey for about 13 years and god does that sound like a great coach. Our city always had like 6 stacked team per level (B, A) and top tier teams in AA and BB. Some years we went away for tournaments and god did I hate when we reached the finals just to face a super stacked team that did not care at all and the match would be so one-sided. What you son's coach did was class and that's how they should all act

[@merikano2985]

@@EternityGamesVids While other kids were playing T-ball me and my best friend were learning to skate, and we both had our jobs. He was bigger than most kids and a great defensemen. I was smaller but had good aim and could deke - you can tell where this is going. The amount of times I heard #46 (my jersey) shouted from the other team's bench LOL. Still I wasn't Gretzky and would drop my gloves as would most players but it wasn't my role on the team - my coach would get annoyed when I did but hey, some sh*t gets said or done that you don't let slide. There's honor in the sport. But back to my buddy, he was pushing 6'1" by high school and was jacked, no one wanted to go up against him. But if you came after one of us you came after all of us. And it's not like our parents were any different either. Didn't matter if you were a first generation hockey player or second or third; you and your family grows up in that culture and it becomes just another aspect of the sport. From a parent's perspective - just standing there in the bleachers behind glass watching helplessly as their kid gets shoved around - it happens long enough that parent either pulls their child from the sport or helps them toughen up to at least take care of themselves out there. And our coaches had the exact same mindset - they were all players themselves and had the same upbringing we did, but the coaches that always stood out were the ones who would get in the ref's face when they see their players getting screwed over. It didn't happen often (most of the time I had good refs) but the bad ones? We would bang our sticks against the boards when they threw our coach out of the rink, and our coach would wait in the parking lot afterward to make sure all his players got out of that rink. This one coach in bantam was such a dad to us all and looked out for us we nicknamed him Lieutenant Dan (Forest Gump). But he didn't like being referred to as an Lt so we "demoted" him to Sergeant and from that point thereafter he was Sergeant Dan. I tried playing other sports, games like baseball and football. But just nothing compared to the competitiveness (football felt too constraining you could say). As for baseball? Maybe if I was a catcher and could chirp batters baseball would've grown on me. But nah. Hockey is not only a different kind of sport but a different kind of life and with the fighting its either you get it or your don't. Fights "set the tone" and can swing the momentum of a game. It gets us energized it gets the crowd back into it. If you're going into the third period and haven't scored a single goal and are frustrated and feels like you're just hitting your head against a brick wall? Something needs to happen, and its why I will always hold that fighting is as much apart of hockey as puck handling.

[@chriscurtis3150]

Play the game right ya goon!

[@Redman147]

I give it to the young boy who didn't go after him after the 3rd time. He had some extreme resilience to keep from retaliating for that long.

[@Trashmouth75]

When Refs refuse to make calls, this is what happens. If the kids know it's not going to get called, they start self policing. The aggressors also make more and more dangerous plays and someone ends up hurt. Totally on these refs.

[@GOMMECITRON]

The ref is the kid's father...

[@jeffhaggarty9879]

@@GOMMECITRON doesn't matter either way.

[@thatoneguy9666]

Kid hits someone in the head with a stick: 😃 Kid who got high-sticked fights back: 😡

[@ironmammoth7]

Wow this brought back memories of coaching little league hockey, and also a reminder of why don't do it anymore.

[@OopsIPooped]

Little homie was like “what did I do?”

[@hockeyfan]

LOL...

[@chucknorris5141]

I don't generally agree with punches at this age but you can only take so much. Every single trip was intentional and the fact that the coach of the blue team allows this (it actually looks like it was coached into them) is crazy. I don't usually get on the refs but not calling any of these is ridiculous.

[@lindacrowe8428]

My son played youth hockey for 6 years in the 70's. Nothing like this ever happened.

[@donaldleider7382]

Been coaching hockey over 30 years. If my player pulled that nonsense at this level he’d be sitting on the bench for a long time.

[@jj-rg7zg]

When bullies on the ice get hammered back they usually stop bullying!

[@gavinwindemuller]

Nothing like two little kids fighting each other on the ice

[@gavinwindemuller]

Yo that’s what I’m saying

[@tchevrier]

I've refereed those age groups many times and granted it is often hard to tell what is a penalty and what isn't BUT wow!!!!! That was brutal officiating. I would have been having a talk with the coach about that one kid on the blue team.

[@troyscott6504]

There is umpteen penalties there. My town had a level 5 and 6 guy who were supervisors and and actually taught omha during the summer. They used to ref ihl and ahl 3 games a weekend. A game like that is disgusting. I had my level 3 by 18 because of them and my love for the game. One trip you can let pass but not like this game.

[@crypticfn6431]

Go little man… one too many missed calls so he goes for his own cheeky play. Especially good for sticking up for himself after getting hit around for 95% of the vid

[@samyjadfakhoury4844]

lmao the reff really thought this was nhl lol , god i miss playing hockey , really one of the best sports

[@OneKidSports]

I’ve played at this rink before and watched this fight go down

[@steveblake3234]

Who cares?

[@sauer8726]

It's not the refs, or kids, it the coach. With all the different players on the leafs tripping this its taught, and that is by the coach.

[@brandonpellon]

Happened so many times I feel like the coach was teaching this.

[@bauerj3398]

Probably not. But he was not stopping it either. Kids could have learned this on their own, from siblings, older teammates, etc..

[@itzMoJo67]

These kids have more grit than the actual maple leafs lol

[@DonKnight-qi4tu]

What fight?

[@Payton3434]

The white team is from downstate, Pekin, Illinois. I’m curious about who the blue team is. Pekin has a decent program.

[@hockeyfan]

2017 Pekin Flyers Invitational Tournament. Hoffman Estates Coyotes vs. Towanda Maple Leafs (W 13-3) Coyotes/White (13), Maple Leafs/Blue (3) Veteran Memorial Ice Arena

[@thughes84]

Number 9 causes parents to fight

[@jessebradley5224]

How many of you have even played minor hockey? Let alone in Canada

[@RT_ok]

my home town!

[@SteveLeightonNSF]

How old are these kids?

[@dapper189]

I'm watching this, thinking, ha, they have a Pekin there too. Doh, it's the same Pekin. I'm in Blormal.

[@noahgulley9221]

Absolute golden some of my teammates on blue

[@maceleven7050]

ur teams trash LOL

[@steveperry1344]

penalty for tripping, how many times?

[@Louie.Hartman]

I just played this exact pekin team at this rink

[@021775ch]

Didn’t see it Coach!

[@stretchstretch9112]

Had it coming

[@Cheldomvlogs]

nice game

[@aidanmcgregor209]

No way I just clicked on this random vid and it was recorded at a rink I’ve played in

[@superjarrod13b]

I saw this all the while growing up playing hockey. the whole team was either clean or it was dirty.

[@nuffaction5464]

Why am I not surprised a Team wearing Toronto colours would act this way. Go ahead..I grew up there.

[@brianlacroix822]

you grew up in a godless place full of degenerates

[@nuffaction5464]

@@brianlacroix822 you are a Ponce arent you?! Lol

[@brianlacroix822]

@@nuffaction5464 that's right i'm a torontonian.

[@hazeone480]

That's was a good punch little man 😂👍nice job

[@tonyb456]

wish they could have let the last bit go for juuuuust a few more seconds.....

[@csnide6702]

Who is coaching these kids in Blue...? .. This is why it's important for ref to take control early......

[@laxman9842]

What dad! Im having fun

[@brockyhockey]

Gotta stand up for yourself and give it right back!

[@kendallprescott2817]

What age are these boys?

[@hockeyfan]

9 years old

[@greathoonta3461]

I’dmaybe understand if these were rookies, but these guys look like veterans. There’s no way they missed all of this.

[@aidenramsay1970]

I actually played in this tournament and this fight happened on the same day of my first hat trick

[@lightupwithkindness4412]

Where is the blue team coach? Shame. I can see the future of the kids.

[@kryptoid80]

Saw a kid overhead ax chop one of our players in the head when getting up from a pile. This was 8u. And the kid was known to "have a history" of bad behavior. Told his coach, he shouldnt be allowed on ice until they manage his anger.

[@dannyarcher]

Who won?

[@hockeyfan]

White Team. (13 - 3)

[@gabegood8989]

does having the leaf on your jersey make you a trash player automatically?

[@thatoneguy9666]

Yes, duh

[@brianschulte6446]

Kids can only take so much. When bodies are on the ice more than they should be, officials should take notice. Miss managed ice is dangerous, missing that many calls is simply not being home. You report them to your scheduler or ref scheduler and block them from officiating any further games for your org. Imagine if this was a pee wee or higher game where the kids have a greater chance of hurting themselves or getting a multi-game suspension???

[@garbun0629]

To me, in youth sports, teaching them sportsmanship is more than winning.

[@hockeyfan]

Agreed 👍

[@xaviermason1752]

Honestly. not that bad, the kid stood up for himself its not his fault he had enough, the other kid should have been kicked out he had more then 3 penalties.

[@braydenthefunnyman9440]

oh heck yeah!

[@jamieeckersley1753]

Sometimes refs are just blind AF. We lost the champion ship game in peewee because they brought down 3 AA bantam players when the ref found out he just continued the game like nothing happened.

[@albrown9609]

The ref is there to officiate the game he can not disallow players that are on the bench to play. If your coach had any knowledge of how it works a protest should of been made after the game. The governing authorities would have reviewed the roster. That coach would be suspended for quite awhile. But you lost the game and I've heard that excuse before. So I don't believe that happened!!

[@austin2245psn]

Good , should have fought back a long time ago You can’t just let people bully you ,

[@hockeyfan]

My sentiment exactly!!!

[@charlesb3908]

I don't think the refs were watching the same game we were.

[@johnboulanger807]

Newer refs are often assigned to lower level games and age groups. They are often teenagers (though that does not seem the case here). These appear to be atom house-league blue/white level so don’t expect top notch officiating. Kids in this age group are often prone to falling at the slightest touch so refs will allow them to play. The video is being presented and edited from the white team so we don’t know how many infractions against blue were waived and if the game was called evenly. They should address the stuff after the play for sure and that is on the coaches as well.

[@jackchadwick645]

That’s the problem in these lower levels. Often kids, if they are smart, will dive to attempt to get a penalty (which happens more than you think) so it gets real hard to tell. Then the kids team gets upset when their dive doesn’t work and starts screaming at me and ugh.

[@bradbeard1930]

Ya that blue team. Nope. That would end real quick. How can you even tell the kids that's okay?

[@Rodgerwilco91]

If you’re allowing your players to play dirty at this young of any age you shouldn’t be coaching.

[@zanzan9106]

WHY IS THIS AT MY RINK?

[@hugheszie]

Trip trip trip trip. Lol if this happened in my beer league the whole place would be scraping 😂

[@taxicamel]

Poor ref'ing. The league officials need to be informed and requested to monitor these refs on a regular basis till it is confirmed they know how to ref to the proper level of this league. There are TWO refs on the ice. There is no excuse for their many failures. Perhaps they really do not know what they are doing. I wonder if they are both waiting for reactions from the parents behind the boards before they blow whistles.

[@daisyjohn1439]

Please fight more do it

[@Stonesour1]

the kids are just watching the adults play and this is what they learn

[@WillyWooly]

I hate to say it when I played hockey young like this, this is how kids get hurt. Team would do this, and eventually other team gets sick of it and they destroy a kid on the other team either good player or the worst offender. Nothing was off limits… fights in hallways, cross checks to the face, etc… A coach who lets their team do this and refs who don’t call it, are putting players at risk. Note: If refs didn’t call anything, players would shoot the pucks at the refs. This was 20 years ago maybe things have changed…

[@thatoneguy9666]

Exactly, if the ref isn’t doing his job then the behavior escalates. It can get to the point that there are line brawls in the older ages (16 or 18u)

[@YoboiChristian]

I heard someone saying yay yay😂😂

[@amazingtoad7244]

Tripping 6x Elbowing 1x High stick 1x

[@obiwan2112]

I never played hockey but the temptation to misuse those sticks must be tremendous.

[@ggsdude1]

Ref lookin like he just woke up from a night of binge drinking.

[@shotsal4482]

They had it coming

[@thatoneguy9666]

Who did?

[@shotsal4482]

@@thatoneguy9666 blue team the things they were doing were dirty

[@thatoneguy9666]

@@shotsal4482 ok, just making sure

[@jeffchamberlin1805]

I've seen bad officiating result in injury in U10 basketball games. It happens when, in times of dire referee shortages, the officials are so inexperienced they are afraid to call anything. Sometimes that leads one team to take advantage and do whatever they can get away with. That fault lies with the coaches of the offending team.

[@dulla8469]

one kid kept going and didnt stop, the other kid just gave one punch and stopped soon as somebody yelled hey

[@Bluesbetter7491]

That’s my local rink

[@RayFinkle05]

Just think of how different the U7 playoff picture would be if these refs hadn’t missed these calls…

[@hockeyfan]

Absolutely

[@phreddy87]

future Matt cooke right there. kinda funny tho seeing a little kid behave like that. Not condoning it but cant help but smile a little.

[@Terrylb285]

I need counseling after being subjected to this unbridled violence, there should be a warning on this video

[@jessehoran1052]

That blue team....they the "Hawks" of Might Ducks fame?

[@magaliwiels2588]

Ta bien fait numéro 15

[@williamnowacki]

Once the refs let this get out of hand the other team is pissed off that’s exactly what’s even happening in the pros. That right there referees you must make correct calls. I’m not a ref but after watching a few replays that player on the maple leafs should’ve been given a game misconduct. Literally he was trying to start fights. Makes me sick to my stomach after the ref didn’t call those penalties

[@terencefynan8611]

I put the blame on the 2 match ref's, were these ref's from the home team, one ref can miss calls but 2 ,you don't miss nothing and the foot slue sorry match penalty to kick the boot of the young player he could have fall on the back of his head ,coursing a fature or concussion ,the ref's set the tone and rhythm of the game , get the calls in early to make it known to both sets of players ,how the game will be played

[@user-od4ch9nd1w]

I didn’t think mites would do that

[@This_guy77]

Little dude had enough. Good on him!

[@HotBranch]

I guess the control center is in Toronto and works the same way for teams with a maple leaf on the front. ;-)

[@derekmccluskey4931]

That one check was so Suttle I laughed

[@hockeyfan]

😉

[@devinlogan7029]

That blue jersey menace... his parents are great athletes and role models

[@brianlacroix822]

that's Tie Domi's son. i bet you more people see Tie as a role model than they do of you AND we know he can beat you at a skate-off AND at fighting

[@steagathebeach]

Ref doesn't have control of this minor hockey game. I'd stop the game and warn both teams and call penalties

[@verstappa]

Crazy hockey dads raising and encouraging their kids into violence.

[@albrown9609]

they are little kids that don't have much skill yet. They are going to bump and fall, get up and get back in the game. As a coach I would rather the refs not call all those contact plays away from the puck. This is where the coach teaches their kids discipline. In the hockey rule book it states the players are to play within the rules whether the ref is calling penalties or not. Its about the team its not about you. Be better than the other team. Suck it up and play the game. you will be a better player, team mate and person in the long run. Don't blame the ref for your loss.

[@pingchen7563]

When refs are not calling those cheap shots then eventually kids are going to take it to their own hands, even at young age.

[@skifreek27]

I was expecting to see 2 KArens goin at it. lol

[@jake.ruhland]

Bro blue team is crazy

[@timeversman9804]

You notice these kids commit the fouls and look immediately at coach or parents for approval. Bad precedents.