Hogan vs. Warrior, the Cursed Rematch! - WCW Halloween Havoc 1998 Review REVISITED!

[@TheMKZero]

I am never gonna get tired of "The MAN CALLED MEEEEENG!" Gets me every time.😅

[@venomousnate7263]

Same 😂

[@MikeCappella98]

Over the last couple months I started watching these reviews in order and seeing the progression of this and "The Patrick FLOP!!!" never ceased to make me laugh.

[@Drakeo83]

Yes!

[@tailoredpluto438]

That and his impression of terry funk always make me laugh

[@seansanchez1245]

The yettttttiiii

[@Flashfm3000]

That subtle "You understand I'm a giant!" under all of Paul Wight's appearances now is a brilliant touch.

[@victoryusmc]

I was dying laughing!

[@freakfoxvevo7915]

I can't hear Warrior's WCW entrance music without thinking the guy at the beginning is saying "take the dog to hell". Thanks, Deadlock

[@savagecatgt]

Imagine a collab

[@CheezusChrist1776]

Skeewoah

[@michaelrigney9682]

I'm gonna let you try to understand that opening.....ONE MORE TIME

[@kenterminateddq5311]

I'm so happy that Brian Zane revisited WCW Halloween Havoc 1998. It features one of Goldberg's and DDP's best matches of their careers. It also features one of WCW's worst matches of all-time, brother!

[@justinturley7071]

And their worst ppv ever. Considering the audiences that bought this ppv didn’t get to see the main event.

[@kenterminateddq5311]

@@justinturley7071 Bash at the Beach 2000 and NWO Souled Out would like to talk to ya.

[@MrBeardsley]

In terms of workrate, it’s absolutely Goldberg’s best match no question.

[@MrBeardsley]

@@justinturley7071Dude, this isn’t even close to WCW’s worst PPV. It’s not even the worst one they’d put on at that point.

[@shady3legend]

​@@MrBeardsleyright I'm sure some of those 99-2000 ppvs got this beat as the worst

[@hellspawn22001]

Listening to William Regal’s short lived podcast gave me a greater appreciation for Finley. The man literally was risking his life having a northern Irish gimmick in England in the late 70’s

[@austinburras2993]

he really didnt

[@adamlane6453]

​@@austinburras2993He didn't what? Your comment is nonsensical.

[@austinburras2993]

@@adamlane6453 He was not risking his life

[@austinburras2993]

it really wasnt@@supersasukemaniac

[@johansmallberries9874]

A risky gimmick would’ve been wrestling as a posh British royalist in NI during the troubles.

[@McBerts522]

What a set it is. That Halloween havoc set it’s absolute phenomenal. It’s god tier. 10/10.

[@anghellicone87]

The original was a classic, but always cool to get a new take on the PPV. You're the GOAT Brian. Thank you for all you do.

[@hecksters423]

Rick Steiner getting FOUR smacks to the nads is a miracle that Bron Breakker was still born, in spite of all the damage downstairs by his uncle Scott.

[@djpegao]

_But that would also explain why he's always pissed, he's been taking shots way before being born..._

[@CarbonRollerCaco]

I wonder if the subtext was supposed to be that Big Poppa was trying to bring his bro down to his own level after "having Pumped himself up".

[@Basarius]

I don't want to be a party pooper but Bron was born a year and a day before this ppv was put on.

[@skippythealien9627]

@@Basarius Rick just asked his brother for an old-school style vasectomy to avoid the hospital bills

[@geldofpunk32]

Bron was already born haha

[@Chichimee]

16:45 the cigarette in Big Show’s hand looks like a toothpick poked into a piece of ham

[@lake-hiltzickincident6326]

That's why you're the man ! If KZbin kills one of your videos, you just redo it ! Amazing 💪

[@Obscusion2]

Technically, Horace Hogan did initially debut as a member of Raven's Flock before Saturn broke the faction up, but he barely did anything of note during that short stint. However, it really shows how much WCW cared about Raven's Flock when, instead of maybe following through on that tease of Raven vs. Savage that was once done earlier that same year, the one thing the nWo took from Raven's Flock was... Horace Hogan.

[@Beavie]

Horace Hogan was Mr. 1998.

[@HyperFlame64V1]

Nepotism is a bitch ain't it??

[@UndergroundSkat2000]

Horace Hogan barely did anything his whole career but he's now a legend thanks to these review shows like this and OSW on KZbin lol

[@Beavie]

@@UndergroundSkat2000 He's the key.

[@Drail2089]

​@@Beaviedoes Mr 1998 belong to anyone's boy stable???

[@harshckuk]

Let's make sure this video has more views than the original one. Hats off to your dedication, Brian

[@danc3488]

It seems like Jericho calling Raven a loser is the equivalent of Biff calling Marty McFly a chicken lol

[@franciscocamacho2666]

I love Jericho’s corny jumping at the end of the match

[@rossthomas6688]

Back when he was a wcw jobber

[@frankf684]

⁠@@rossthomas6688he wasn’t a jobber.He had 5 title reigns

[@nuevoHughHoney]

It's like he won on The Price Is Right

[@Andygroo]

There’s actually a moment when Hogan has Warrior down in the corner where Warrior yells “you’re killing me!!”

[@venomousnate7263]

Ah nice to see Halloween Havoc 98 back. That was a great video and one of my favorite classic PPV reviews.

[@NandoA130]

I hate that you have to keep remaking reviews because of KZbin striking your original videos, but I do love that we get to hear your updated opinions on the matches and angles and PPV overall

[@pinheadlarry6534]

Glad this is back up. This PPV deserves the thrashing from the Z-Man.

[@InflatableConan]

I was fortunate enough to attend the final four Halloween Havoc's and will never forget when my friends and I first walked into the arena and saw that entrance ramp. We were completely floored and impressed beyond words. It appeared much larger in person and seemed alive the entire night.

[@rogueprince1341]

Bret and Sting were my favorite wrestlers in their feds. Their match was a dream for me, but it quickly became a nightmare. If only this match happened in WWF.

[@popmonika]

....Between 1992 and 1996 😂

[@michaelbreen7865]

​@@popmonikaLess funny because it sounds so true.

[@rossthomas6688]

Sting was a jobber before aew

[@namikstudios]

WWE would have found some way to bury Sting and screw Bret over at the same time. Thank flip it happened in WCW where both were treated with the respect they deserve, even if they did put on a pretty lackluster showing on this occasion. They just didn't seem to click on this night for whatever reason.

[@gst013]

Well said...the idea that WCW treated them with "the respect they deserved" is laughable. Bret was never anything but on the periphery of the main event scene until Vince Russo came over, The bottom line is that Pat Patterson was Bret's secret weapon, and he was never ever leaving the WWF.

[@G33kCulture]

I've got 45 mins of baking to do and you release this?! What a beautiful world we live in. Hope you are well, brother.

[@austinlewis5459]

I'm glad you threw in more context for the Wrath match. I was a bit of a mark for Wrath at that time, because his undefeated streak was actually pretty interesting. And the build for Sting/Hart back then got me so worked up, too. I still think the story and emotion is good, shame the match wasn't lol

[@BerylliumGold]

The Paul Wight dialogue in the background pops me EVERY DAMN TIME. It's so ridiculous lol.

[@BerylliumGold]

Woooo, man I hope I get to shake your hand one day

[@zibba1331]

I will never forget the shock in my cousins living room when this show dropped out after the brutal hogan-warrior match. Glad to revisit the memories (kinda?) Thanks for another great ep

[@luilovebug]

I love the little "You can't stand the Giant!" Sound bite every time Big Show appears recently 😂

[@MCastleberry1980]

1000% in agreement that THE moment to end the streak should have been that Diamond Cutter. Both guys were over, but listen to that pop when it happens. The underdog managing to gut it out and upset the undefeated champ is a story that writes itself as opposed to all the goofy shit that happened with Nash.

[@matthewrosenthal753]

This would have been better than Nash. However the real truth is neither was the right time nor the right person. Goldberg’s streak still had life, as it did with Nash and further neither Nash nor DDP needed it. Breaking that streak needed to be someone that was right there to use it to make them a star. DDP and Mash were well established stars.

[@maxdecphoenix]

Paul White should have ended the streak. It wouldn't have hurt goldberg any. But WCW squandered the giant. Instead of building a hulking monster like Andre, they wasted him on Hogan too early in his career, then turned him in to a bumbling goof with no real direction. Though i will say, Vince didn't use him much better.

[@znalniaskas]

Honestly, Disco did as much as anyone could do with that comedy gimmic.

[@jeremyc9593]

As someone who was a huge wrestling fan during the first Hogan - Warrior match, stopped watching around 1993 but then came back when the NWO started, even I had completely forgotten about the Hogan - Warrior rematch until I watched your first review of this PPV, nor did I care to watch it when it happened. The Warrior went from this slightly crazy, high energy likeable character to just plain crazy with a dash of insufferability.

[@mrterp04]

Horace got his big break and responded to it with “AHM HORSE HOGANNNNN”

[@jcruik]

Always love hearing zane say DAIMUND CUTTUR 😂

[@jereico7587]

Hearing Jericho shout "Help Me" is great. Even as a middle school kid, I always knew that the bad guys needed to get punished in the end. That's why I HATED the NWO. As you pointed our years ago in one video "the NWO got what they deserved......never!" - At least Jericho got punished and came across as a whiney weasel. He has always been one of my favorite wrestlers because you wanted to see him try to get ahead and always fail when he tried to cheat. He was the wrestling personification of "Seinfield/It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia"

[@edyoung2621]

I remember the 1st time he reviewed this he gave it a -4.5 stars and I was like wow he's being nice giving it that half star leeway. But yeah this is one of the worst matches in pro wrestling history. And it took Goldberg and DDP off the air. So sad. Glad your well brian

[@EddieLopez-q2t]

I think that was hh 1997 match with hogan vs piper

[@chrisbreezy3048]

Actually, the original rating was zero stars as the negative star rating had yet to be introduced. That didn't occur until a little over two years later as Van Hammer vs. Doug Somers from Halloween Havoc '91 broke Brian so badly that he had no choice but to introduce negative stars. 😂

[@nickseebruch8720]

Really great review and appreciate the re-upload. I enjoyed the first review, and this one was even better. Hope to see re-uploads of Summerslam '98 and St. Valentine's Day Massacre.

[@AnubisRazael]

Joystick for taunt got me, loved the THQ WCW & WWE Games!

[@MetalMe55iah]

The warrior's WCW entrance always got my hyped...then the bell rings

[@gabepollock1641]

That was Warrior wherever he went. The entrance and mystique were second to none, and Jim Hellwig clearly understood that assignment. But he wasn’t built for drawn out matches, and that was always his undoing.

[@jackburton2680]

Wasnt built for short matches either

[@jamesbounds]

1998 had some awesome set designs. The Halloween Havic one here and the 1998 Survivor Series are some of my favorites from that year.

[@ShinRyojin]

The Survivor Series 98 skull design was dope. It made the arena look like a Mortal Kombat stage.

[@jamesbounds]

@@ShinRyojin That one is the coolest.

[@shady3legend]

I would like to see someone make a video on the best ppv stage sets ever in all companies

[@ParsnipPizza]

So happy to see this one up, after your video on Goldberg and 97 Starrcade, I've wanted to see this one too in the trilogy of crowning disappointing WCW shows

[@czmisfitsfan]

Disco was the most underrated worker of this era of WCW. Fun heel, worked well, and made his opponents look good.

[@Surv1vor1993]

29:34 After getting hooked on the Deadlock retro reviews, you can’t convince me otherwise. Warrior’s WCW theme says “Take the dog to Hell.”

[@AlexanderKahrs]

Appreciate you redoing this despite KZbin saying "that doesn't work for me, brother" 😆

[@RayPerez-ld6do]

Hogan turning on his nephew Luke Warm Steve Martin was funny.

[@Tthahulk92]

That allows Brett to hit Sting in the WIENER 😂😂😂😂 I’m 31 and immediately died laughing.

[@daleharris3809]

I love that Hall was at the bar in full wrestling gear 🤣🤣

[@jefferyjones8399]

It's such a weird show. Some good and some absolutely baffling decisions with an iconic entrance set, so much so they basically used it again the following year. I always loved seeing what they did with Halloween Havoc. I liked the 97 set too. So many unnecessary promos and random crap, not sure how they managed to bungle the timing so badly. Goldberg's best match, no doubt. I had a Christ Jericho figure with that attire when I was a kid. I wish Mattel would have made that one when he was in WWE. Jericho and Raven are good together.

[@victoryusmc]

I'll rewatch all of your videos my dude.

[@matta6991]

Those that listen to Deadlock Podcast know warrior’s theme was actually saying “Take the dog to hell”

[@nastynac]

Every time lol😂

[@edward66703]

Ironic last night i listened to Wrestling Bios review of this show and was just thinking Brian needs to do a part 2 of this show. My dreams came true😊😊😊

[@Gurziak]

Bios does it better

[@MR.__G]

@@Gurziakwho cares. It’s great we get to see 2 different reviews and get entertained twice.

[@coreyhendricks9490]

Wonderful Halloween Havoc Set, Classic Feel As Usual, Cool Revisited Video As Always Brian 💯

[@jeffersonhouse94]

The only PPV I ever paid full price for, but MAN did I regret it!

[@jbizz80]

Curious to know: Did your feed cut off before the main event?

[@blazr1976]

I really enjoyed this revisit to Halloween Havoc 98. Brian should do some videos where he watches and reacts to his first PPV review videos.

[@R1PP3RR0M3R0]

Your original review of this is one of my favorites, so I'm excited about this!

[@hbryster96]

29:51: “Take the dog to hell” GOAT deadlock podcast moment

[@SpaceDragonX783]

You damn right brudda

[@bradcarver8127]

I know it’s an awful show, but I love this PPV.

[@namikstudios]

No PPV with that epic Goldberg vs DDP main event can be considered awful. It's one of the best ever and easily saves Havoc 98.

[@chadkennedy7855]

​@Curtis_160 You did? Are you from Vegas or something?

[@VanWhyDesigns]

I love the revisits. Great content as always.

[@cookiestar3069]

“I don’t know why I decided to sing it.” Because you are a legend, good sir!

[@JoeCab]

Time to change the channel name to "Wrestling With KZbin Algorithm". Let's get it.

[@MarashcinoLarry]

Ernest Miller was a natural. New to the business at the time, but an absolute showman.

[@jayharv285]

Might not have been the best wrestler ever but he had charisma and could get heat pretty easily

[@TonyBeBlessed]

I used to laugh so hard seeing Giant get on that top rope. It took forever 😂😂😂😂

[@wesleycooper6775]

Loving these revisitings Zane, please keep doing them?!

[@cjaypaz9842]

Man you are too good for us bro not only did you revisit this but you chose to watch Nitros for more context? Respect bro respect.

[@NoirAngel921]

Question. So when a video gets taken down, do they specifically tell you why its blocked so you can edit those bits to accommodate their means or how do you know what to change? What if this video gets blocked too??

[@Bananahammock681]

He's so cocky, he's so cool. He actually gave props to that disco fool?! Nice review as always, Zane!

[@sdfilmproductions4193]

Remember that time The Giant attempted a shooting star press?!..... No, me neither.🤣

[@hollywoodhiggins1576]

By far the best wrestling set for a ppv ever! So nostalgic

[@ScottyKnows4385]

To be fair; Kidman's theme is quite the banger imo, also, thank you for the revision of this ppv. It's worth it for sure

[@patrickmcgavin2245]

It really should've been DDP to end Goldberg's streak. DDP and Goldberg had the superior match, to Nash and Goldberg. Nash didn't need the win. But bc he was the booker, Nash couldn't help himself. So naturally he gave himself the win. It's all about giving the right guy the victory. I thought WWE messed up even worse. When they had Brock Lesnar end undertaker's streak. Depending on who you believe, Vince said Brock winning was always the plan. Lesnar said he wasn't supposed to win. Lesnar called an audible, when he noticed undertaker was concussed. Bc he knows undertaker would gut it out to give fans our 💰 worth. I respect that about Mark, I don't want him, or anyone risking serious injury and health to give us our 💰 worth.

[@BlastOffBobby]

“Brother dude jack” LMAO

[@meteor713g]

I dunno why you sung it either, but I like that you did

[@brdobie]

I will always watch and like any reviews of classic PPVs from WCW/WWF/ECW in the ‘96 - ‘00 era.

[@SMC01ful]

Disco Inferno, easily one of the best workers of his era. Underrated as all hell, an excellent mid-carder. I loved his gimmick, the combo of cheese and sleaze was superb. Amazing how he went twice that night. One of those dudes who is a vital work horse for the company. The dude wouldve have had a spot on any of my Pay-per-views, were I the king of the world.

[@TeeKoon]

Yes, he was underrated but more skilled than his character perception, a brawler look. But good wrestling knowledge and psychology. An excellent entertainer.

[@CinefreekProductions]

26:47. Thank you for adding that Jackie Crockett sound bite! It's hilarious!

[@chubbycatfish4573]

Glad we got this one again. The joys of KZbin...

[@camschuster5947]

You could re upload all your old videos and we still don’t care. Amazing content as always. 😎

[@MarcoCaifan87]

Great to see a new take on this PPV, Brian. Wasn’t Halloween Havoc 1991 also removed?

[@sonofcinema]

Wonderful to hear we're going to get more re-reviews! Can't wait for those 👍

[@Ebessan]

I hope you will be able to do this for the classic WWF 1999 PPV’s that got taken down on YT.

[@jasonstewart9919]

Haha dude I laughed out loud so hard at the straight-up NEGATIVE 5 STARS 😂(sorry if that's a spoiler for anyone) 😂

[@jamessteel9016]

Wondered why this came back 😂 actually not a terrible PPV, just that hogan v warrior match which stunk out the joint.

[@harveymcelroy9332]

Nope it was damn good show wcw was still very strong

[@melasnexperience]

It's amazing how one farty match can make the entire reputation of a PPV, especially since the actual main event of HH98 was so good.

[@ojlott-w4n]

I remember kids in school doing the alex wright dances 😂

[@michaelanderson6394]

A group of friends and I watched this show in October. One of them is very new to wrestling, but one thing he said was that he’d heard good things about the Ultimate Warrior (trust me, we were quick to correct him on that). This was the first Ultimate Warrior match he ever saw, and it’s one of the worst matches of all time… yeah, not sure of his opinion on Warrior now, but I feel like those “good things,” he’s heard may have been ill judged.

[@trappestarrgaming3422]

He six in the ring but warrior is def an experience 😂😂😂

[@MrAppleYo]

Warrior worked in the WWF. He came in like a ball of energy, squashed his opponent in quick fashion, and got out of the ring before that excitement faded. It worked well at the time and watching some of those matches now, I think it still kind of works. He was exposed in his longer matches but with the right opponents, there were still a few good Warrior matches.

[@Breanna_monique]

Brian, is the original version of the video on your Patreon or will it be uploaded there?

[@Mr_Boyer]

It took me a second to register Suplex Township. Brilliant work there, Brian.

[@SmokeSkreenVisuals]

THIS is when i started to really write WCW off

[@lukeharbolt7681]

Zane. I love this show I believe I have had to save it on here multiple times . It always disappears. Thank you for the re upload

[@eastsidereviews727]

1998, the last year that WCW was competent and still a true competitor to the WWF. Shout out to Reliving the War for giving me, someone who started watching wrestling in 1999 fully, a perspective on this year but while there were problems, WCW still produced some great television. 1999 is when they hit the iceberg and 2000 is just pure chaos before the final sinking in 2001, so it's always good to go back to a slightly, better time. Although you for sure see throughout the year, and on this show, the flaws that would ultimately kill the company. On your point about the stage/set design I truly feel it is a lost art in wrestling, not just WWE but in AEW as well. The shows all have the same, standard feel and outside of something like Double or Nothing for AEW or Mania for WWE, all the shows are just plain. It's why people went kind of crazy at Clash at the Castle last year for the big castle thing, like it's something different at a big non-Mania and non-Saudi show. Guess at 32 I've gotten old enough to really be nostalgic about things like set designs in wrestling; kids these days will never know the hype of the Halloween Havoc sets or the swinging hook set of the old Backlash shows.

[@tomclark362]

I'm a little surprised they didn't call the tag team of alex wright and disco inferno monday night fever

[@claymathewselevator8121]

Das Wunderkind

[@buhbuhjaychampagne1706]

@@supersasukemaniacTheir first tag team. Then when Alex Wright changed his name to Berlin, they tagged again. This time they were Boogie Knights.

[@pccleric]

By the time of this pay-per-view Chris Jericho had already beaten Goldberg.

[@HWJASURY]

As far as betrayals go, I think Rey is on a mission to beat Sting's record at this point. Seriously, how many times has Rey been betrayed?

[@BravesFanLivingInRoyalsCountry]

I remember watching this live on ppv. My dad and I sat in complete shock that the feed cut off and we didn't see the main event live.

[@SpikeFartly]

Great review , I think the reversal of the Jackhammer is one of the most memorable reversals in wrestling for me , huge pop from the crowd ! This has to be in the top 5 Goldberg matches

[@LukeLeonettiYouTube]

Eric Bischoff’s new haircut makes him look like Clark Kent lmao

[@dankester5607]

It would have been hilarious if, in a shout out to the show itself, the KZbin video cut out RIGHT when he started talking about DDP v. Goldberg

[@maskedsonja5722]

If you ever decide occasionally re-reviewing older eps (esp back in your early days when it was 4 stars and you refused to give "negative stars" at the time) I would love to see some of those-but either way you do such awesome work on the channel thank you so much for your work :)

[@SRPC21]

Hey! You've been a big inspiration to me for years and I'm currently making my first wrestling KZbin video. It really sucks to hear about the copywrite strikes. Do you have any advice for me about what to avoid? I have some 5 second clips of different matches/entrances (muted) with my commentary over them. Do you think my video get taken down for this? I'd love for you to see the finished product so I'll tag you in my comments once it's published.

[@WrestlingWithWregret]

5 seconds is too much! Really you should be shooting for no more than 3 seconds per clip to be safe! Best of luck to ya!

[@SRPC21]

@@WrestlingWithWregret Thank you so much 🥲. I really appreciate your response.

[@agentorange1162]

The editing on that Macarena; mwah chefs kiss. Once again thanks for nothing KZbin copyright claim algorithm.

[@farmerproductions9869]

Can I please ask if you also plan on redoing your video on wwecw?

[@cjmoss51]

I think you remaking all of the old videos is a great idea. I still want to see you get to 1M subs.

[@mattries37315]

Honestly the match against DDP was the best match of Goldberg's career and I think Brian is right, it would have been the time to end the streak.

[@GeneralRidley]

I remember at this time thinking how cool a match between Bret and Sting could be because it'd really say who had the better version of that submission, but even at 9 years old I didn't quite trust WCW to do it right. I don't think I watched this ppv, but I do recall the talk at school basically confirming my fears.

[@jackburton2680]

It's shocking how badly they botched bret hart in wcw. One of the many things that makes it hard to believe there wasn't some level of deliberate sabataging of the product. It's soooooo bad and so inexplicably shit and illogical, nearly impossible to believe it isn't intentional

[@tafua_a]

12:00 Ever since I started watching the Reliving the War series, all I can think of is "Ooh, Big Bratwurst!"