HoI4 Guide: Communist China - No Step Back

[@timothyhouse1622]

No step back has made a lot of the older achievements nearly impossible. MOST of the ones for the previous DLC are completely broken in how the strategy was supposed to work. Hell, those were highly reliant on RNG going the right way but logistics completely destroyed it. Want an example, good luck breaking the Turks at Istanbul when trying to form Byzantium.

[@steadyjumper3547]

Sad Greek noises*

[@dinozocker_lp1465]

Well, if you want't it to be easier just deactivate no step back

[@alicemoffat]

@@dinozocker_lp1465 that won’t work either, the new logistics system was implemented in Barbossa, so deactivating NSB won’t make it easier.

[@timothyhouse1622]

@@dinozocker_lp1465 exactly what Felix said. You have to roll it back to a previous patch and that is a giant hassle. It also isn't about "easier" it is about being possible. IT is IMPOSSIBLE to do the achievement in the current state of the game.

[@randomestchannel]

@@timothyhouse1622 Not a giant hassle.

[@JohnSmith-kb4re]

6:10 "I think this strengthens the country tremendously. Which, I know, as Communist China, is kinda weird but hey, just roll with it." -Deng Xiaoping

[@quinn3334]

lmaooooooo

[@jacksu43-65]

XD

[@pallingtontheshrike6374]

basically everyone after deng as well, really

[@jeffh9427]

Tibet: If I sit really still, Bitt3rSteel won't notice me.

[@drandersjiang]

PRC fully liberated Tibet on 23 May 1951, two and a half years after the end date of HOI4.

[@Fred_the_1996]

Tibet was only liberated 6 years after WW2 ended

[@jakelloyd8440]

invaded* not liberated

[@42carlos]

@@drandersjiang "Liberated" +100 social credits

[@currahee]

@@drandersjiang liberated huh

[@viclorenzo5016]

Once more to the subtitles. 0:01 "Hey, guys. Peter Steele here back with another video of the day." 0:22 "Convert everything to these small templates in Taiwan." 1:48 "the glorious autonomy" RIP Tannu-Tuva

[@Bitt3rSteel]

God i love the auto-subtitles

[@viclorenzo5016]

Oh but there's more. 2:39 "we'll just eat the like a steel for now." 4:21 "Usually the Soviets don't know, Soviets don't have them." Huh, I wonder what this mean. 5:07 "She based on Mars" 8:47 "Take all states bottoming metal." 11:28 "amankwah" RIP Mengkukuo 13:03 "Professional Army Corps chief Berlin doctor" 17:00 "Tania" 💀 Tannu-Tuva become human 17:14 "the UN will start churning out more and more military factories" 20:18 "Grandpa Open works" 24:32 "And they go as men cook. Whoa."

[@xLionsxxSmithyx]

@@viclorenzo5016 oh sweet auto Subtitles, the gift that keeps on giving.

[@pallingtontheshrike6374]

@@Bitt3rSteel juntuan [autosubbed to taiwan] means army group, but realistically it means 'lots and lots of footsoldiers because we're poor as shit and we'll label it a big army unit for now because Chiang won't know the fucking difference' lmao Renmin jundui is just the pinyin for 'people's army.'

[@evankearney4865]

I was just going to comment something about Peter Steele lol

[@kristiqn9924]

i have much expirience with this achivement. 1 of the thing i always do is to improve my relations with germany and italy, they always send u thousands of guns and artillery (venenzuela and peru also help)

[@imperialriders6785]

Communist China and nazis and fascists.....

[@swietyboze1792]

Venezuela and Peru??????

[@Hanking_Man]

Yea there both fascist

[@sejozwak]

Or Hungary when they go fascist or when world tension is high enough

[@kristiqn9924]

@@swietyboze1792 ye they r fascist

[@AjarTadpole7202]

24:00 "When you have the enemy by the balls, you want to keep twisting." Bitt3rSteel 2022

[@chinueplayz8944]

Zhu De is a great Field Marshall because he can get Logistics Wizard and that really helps, especially in the No Step Back update.

[@noaheke2666]

"When you have the enemy by the balls, you wanna keep twisting," -sun tzu

[@thecanadian8206]

lol

[@edoardobaia7303]

if you improve relations with non alinged nations they will send you guns too, for example iran,iraq, saudi, oman and yemen, tibet, finland, buthan, siam and nepal. if you have convoys also the dudes in south america

[@MaFo82]

You can even get weapons from fascist governments with good enough relations as communist china.

[@gocool_2.0]

You forgot Turkey. They're the best for lend lease

[@anate9]

Hungary and romania has military restriction at the start, they usually have a lot of guns at the start

[@fjunjian]

waste if political power not really necessary

[@TheMetalfreak360]

Thanks for the video, been waiting for an update before trying on it myself.

[@Bitt3rSteel]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@edhoj]

@@Bitt3rSteelI have problems with the Japanese and the lend lease

[@Bitt3rSteel]

@@edhoj sadly they changed hownlend lease works...I need to donan update

[@kevinwells-mcdonnell1233]

25:30 AI sometimes takes territory you occupy with the "request control of state" diplomacy function. As far as I know, you are not even given the option to refuse. The reason that they can, is that they generated huge warscore while you were biding your time.

[@Fred_the_1996]

Wait what, you should be able to refuse if the AI is

[@mufarisfa3939]

I call shenanigans

[@DocBirkin1]

Dang, that is such a BS mechanic! The Nationalists can't help but have more warscore than Commie China, they take a million plus casualties just holding lines! Then they get EXTRA points because the game assigns them conquered territory as I push into it and THEY get the points for the occupation! This game is infuriating at times.

[@dorktriogamer2865]

That's not it, you have to fully control the state then they take it all at once, it's not where when you push they get it

[@TheForeignGamer]

Great timing on this video! I used your old guide to get both of Mao's achievements, and I only had to change a couple things to account for the new supply mechanics and the current patch, like researching trucks and trains and getting the logistics and attrition guys. I'm interested to see how this video compares to the successful playthrough I had! Edit: So in my campaign, a few key differences were that Japan was much stronger and far more aggressive and as such was able to push the nationalists back quite a bit by the time I was ready to be involved. They even secured two beachheads in mainland China AND were pushing from the south in Indochina. The fight in Mengkukuo and Manchuria was a lot tougher for me, even with prioritizing the supply hubs like you did. Also, Stalin never invited me into the Comintern. Instead, Churchill came a-knockin' and invited me into the Allies. I actually accepted, because I doubt I would have been able to win otherwise. While mainland China was tied up with endless naval invasions, I declared war on them and swept in from the west, putting the squeeze both on them and the Japanese simultaneously. Unfortunately, Japan actually capitulated China before I could, and they ended up puppeting them as the "Reorganized Government of China". After a while, I was able to kick them all off the mainland, but by then Japan was at war with the Allies, and I still needed to take Taiwan for the achievement. However, without a navy to speak of, I tried resorting to Paratroopers, only to have the game bug out on me by simply refusing to execute the order. I was thankfully able to take Taiwan and all other territory in the peace deal, but it took till 1946 to do so.

[@АдольфРозенберг]

well i am did puppeted entire world as ussr at 1945

[@xLionsxxSmithyx]

@@АдольфРозенберг yeah... USSR is easy though.

[@jonblack4106]

That's a bit more historical actually

[@DethScarred]

Can confirm I've tried 3 times to get a run as smooth as this video and each time Japan is brutal. In one game I was pushed back to the river for a while before being able to fight back. I was also better equipped than in the video.

[@ancaoraathasach]

Thanks for the guide! Just got both of the Mao achievements.

[@ditian6234]

Hey thanks! All China are significantly more difficult than before, ur doing some fresh content

[@OskarW57]

I recommend taking Tibet after Sinkiang and before joining the war with Japan. The Tibetian factories are very helpful and they usually have a generous amont of guns.

[@tagus100]

Manually justify on them?

[@clongshanks5206]

I’m curious too. Answer the dude’s question

[@tagus100]

@@clongshanks5206 Yeah you would have to manually justify on Tibet but I don't see how you can justify on Tibet + fight + annex them, BEFORE the Japanese attack.

[@jrmiles73]

@@tagus100 I think that’s falls into the time where you don’t need to join the war. You just stay out of it until after Maoism finishes

[@oltgashi6040]

​@@tagus100just justify them when declaring war on xibei san ma

[@linuxares]

Question, wouldn't horses be a better way in the beginning to quickly overtake? They're faster and you probably don't need as many. Then you can save up on guns.

[@Enward834]

Yes, but I think he just like to use infantry to keep it simple

[@alexandrutheodorbileca4266]

1 batallion cavalery = 120 infantry eq. 1 batallion foot infantry = 100 infantry eq.

[@pluginleah]

@@alexandrutheodorbileca4266 LOL I'm just now realizing how ridiculous that number is. 1000 manpower and 100 guns. Good luck boys o7

[@ovvkeyvvo]

I know it's been a month since this was posted, but no one has mentioned. As Commie China you don't start with a Cavalry Division and pretty much all of the territory you take is core (so it's not needed for garrison) So to create a functioning Cav Division would be a massive waste of EXP (in my opinion at least) + as said above it's also more expensive than infantry.

[@Enward834]

@@ovvkeyvvo good point. Sense this has been posted I tried to do this with cavalry and ran into this problem

[@musAKulture]

most of your pronunciation is spot on, but just in case u r interested, zhu de sounds like "choo duh" (almost the zh in zhukov) the apostrophe in yan'an indicates that you do not pronounce it as ya+nan, but rather yan+an, the an must not have a front consonant

[@PRBoricua23]

I love replies like this, I’m obsessed with pronunciation of names and I constantly look it up so as to say it right even if it’s just for me and I never say the name out loud.

[@ChengKaiYuKcpss]

Indeed, as a Singaporean Chinese, I’m 100% sure bit3rsteel has made at least 1 of these pronunciation mistakes in this video.

[@jordanr3320]

Just wanted to say thank you so much for this video. Communist China was one of the most fun "minor" nations to play as, and ever since No Step Back, they felt unplayable. The old strategy of "just train troops, put a gun in their hand, and throw your manpower at Japan" doesn't work with the changes to supply, and consequently made it difficult, if not impossible, to have enough spare guns available to spring Infiltration against RoC. But with tips from this video, I've been able to finally have a good time playing them again. One helpful thing I found in my game, if you train up a few extra of the Juntuan and just try to place them along the provinces you'll take with Infiltration, it'll save you some time and effort. If Japan pushes into those territories far enough, you risk not being able to dig them out, and you'll lose any stacks of Infiltration you've built up there. Putting those defenders there slows the advance to make sure those provinces flip your way when you launch the uprising.

[@12Prophet]

"Chairman, we don't have enough steel to produce guns.." Chairman: "It's fine. Just make the wood vaguely gun shaped, it'll be fine."

[@celestial1924]

i'm so flipping happy you made this video, i was watching the other communist china achievement run and it was nearly impossible with NSB, and breaking the Turks at Istanbul was literally impossible

[@alexschmidt443]

What i prefer to build at the start is a railway that will connect with a future supply hub at the menguko border, because my divisions always went out of supply up there. You can get the hub done quickly with that decisions which increases supply hub speed by 300%.

[@bugra3691]

Thanks for the tuttorial i have gotten both communist china achivements following this video and it was huge fun going from less than 10 factories to 300 factories.

[@rbxless]

If you're playing any difficulty that isn't Civilian, it's much more worthwhile to get the silent workhorse before filling out the cabinet. Besides, when you're done, you can get the Popular Figurehead and Ideological Crusader for 25% extra stability.

[@wom1320]

One thing you can do with this is if you are the faction leader you can reject the minor chinese states down south from joining and declare war on one with nationalist china (i would suggest yunnan) so long as you take the provience bordering the other state in the peace deal you can conquer the second without giving up any land and netting you plenty of factories.

[@piousmuffin5285]

After trying (and failing with) various Superior Firepower setups featuring artillery, engineers and logistics companies, I went back to the good old setup of Mass Assault (left) and 10 battalion infantry with no support and instantly had a successful game. In China supply is everything, so the -20% supply use from MA/L is really strong, and plain infantry seems to be the most efficient in terms of supply. I go for Burma Road into Construction Battalions for the +5 entrenchment to make up for the lack of engineers. I think Burma Road is Nationalist China's 12th focus on historical so this needs to be done early. The British can also provide nice bonuses for air if you want to complement your infantry with something, though I found this completely unnecessary for the purposes of getting the achievements. Then it's just a matter of holding back Japan as you pump out more of your cheap divisions, farm your doctrines and get all the juicy combat bonuses from your focus tree. Improving relations with Italy in particular will net you A LOT of guns. Germany too, though they'll cut you off sooner.

[@fastranger]

tips : if you wanna make sure you get all the air buffs on camco, keep yunnan out of your faction. only accept them when you ready to take "burma road" and "the hump" in the Shared Industrial branch focus

[@Brian_i]

5:59 It's not weird, It's just adopting their modern policy 30-40 years earlier.

[@monremi6858]

I followed the tutorial perfectly... and then the Chinese AI failed to stop Japan's naval invasions, killing my run : * ( Such is the essence of HOI4

[@leejenkins7184]

For sure, you gotta watch and expect those navel invasions lol

[@MaFo82]

I like to start by building railways, infrastructure takes MUCH longer now then pre-NSB especially with a tiny industrial base. I also like to make Zhu De into my Field Marshal since he starts as an organizer and thus can get the logistics wizard FM-trait immediatly after promotion.

[@Senor21]

not related to this video but I have to thank you for that motorized arty division from the Polish commonwealth video. It is an absolutely amazing offensive division. I find myself using it over armored divisions when I play a minor nation as it as a cheaper but effective alternative

[@krasnamerah1926]

Same. Those two defensive and offensive templates works wonders even for now.

[@pedritoelhispanista.6185]

Zd

[@Brandonmw1901]

@@krasnamerah1926what’s the division template?

[@krasnamerah1926]

@@Brandonmw1901, "Sp" means support battalions Offensive: 6 Mot-Infantry, 4 Mot-Art, Logistic Sp + Maintenance Sp + Recon Defensive: 9 Inf + 1 Art + Artillery Sp + Engineer Sp + Maintenance Sp

[@ckfeliz]

Defeating the warlords as nationalist china used to be pretty easy if you got the timing right. Now the supply situation in northwestern china is just horrendous, which forced me to build a supply hub in chongqing just to get the supplies there I assume communist china might have to suffer the same supply problem, railways nearly doesnt exist in northern china (northern china part that's east of shaanxi, that is)

[@timothyhouse1622]

As someone whose wife isn't talking to him right now because he was yelling and woke her up this morning trying it (I haven't got Sun Tzu Reborn and decided to try again), the HARDEST thing right now is taking out Commie China before Japan is knocking. They will not move divisions off their capital, even using the cheese method of letting them take your territory.

[@jeeveey]

I tried your guide yesterday and it worked pretty well for me up until I got all of Manchuria from Japan. The white peace event never fired since they had landed in the south of China and nearly capped them. Brought China back from the brink of defeat but then was stuck in an eternal war with the Japanese. It took a year to build up a good enough air force and research paratroopers but I managed to paradrop into Japan from Korea, took a port, and capped them with over 60% of the war score. Annexed my core states then puppetted Japan and it was a cake walk from there to get the Made in China achievement. As for a way to improve this guide, having some mobile troops should be mentioned. I built a few motorized divisions during the war with Japan to better exploit breakthroughs and quickly take supply hubs.

[@jonblack4106]

It seems that once japan is at war with the allies, the white peace doesn't trigger, is that how it was for you?

[@Saber2793]

@@jonblack4106That’s exactly how it was for me. Japan pushed out of China, yet no peace deal.

[@miranchee]

Excellent video! Your earlier vid really helped me in playing CC in older versions. I'm still working out how to do this with supply changes, haven't tried ironmanning it yet, but here are some possibilities I figured out. Sharing for anyone who finds them helpful. Well rehearsed for an achievement run, I think. * Govt of National Defense not needed. If you wait until early May '37, the Xi'an incident ("Chiang Kai Shek detained in ...") will fire and you can form a faction with Mao's favorite frenemy, led by him rather than you. 2 focuses saved, when war breaks out they're bypassed. There may be some delay before Guangxi and Yunnan join in, but usually they get on board by the time the war starts, and almost always by the end of the year. * It's possible to use Reorganize the Railway System to build the TWO supply hubs you need, roughly where you built them. The trick is to amass construction buffs, kick off reorganize railways, then join the war with the Japanese & switch to Total Mobilization when the first hub is about half done, plus or minus a week (4-6 weeks into building). This balances the benefits from Total Mobilization, which you need to get the factories to finish the two hubs, with the risks of being at war, which you need to choose Total Mobilization. To make it work, you need 11-12 civvies when you take the reorganize railways buff, going up to 14-15 with Total Mob, and you need enough PP to take Total Mob on time. * The way I usually do it is to (1) prioritize Construction I & II (I line them up in the slot I get from literacy), (2) take the stability boosts of improved worker conditions & Maoism, (3) free trade for extra construction, (4) Invite Foreign Advisers in winter or spring '37 to get extra civvy factories (my focuses are as Bitt3rSteel's until AgSoc, but then I do Rectification-> Maoism-> Foreign Advisers-> Yan'an Base Area), (5) spam 30 divisions by July '36 to send volunteers to Spain whenever I'm not at war, which gets me Spanish Gold Reserves (they come in May or early June '37), (6) save PP to hit 150 mid-to-late July '37. This all maxes construction buffs & minimizes consumer goods. I switch construction to supply hubs & push reorganize the railways around 15 June '37, join the war and take Total Mob between 14 July & 1 August '37. The first hub comes online in mid-August, the second in early October, well in time before the reorganize railways buff ends. * If you're tight with PP, you can delay the whole schedule. Joining the fight early though makes for less dastardly roleplaying + the defending troops get excellent fighting experience, which will be very very useful later when going on the attack. * You'll fight the first month or so on low supply. Not ideal, but I was always able to hold off the Japanese if I started with rested troops & all the extra divisions Chiang helpfully stations on the border. They may start losing their fights, but will still be fighting when supply comes online. They typically hold on without supply about 6-8 weeks (until early September if you join the war right away) before ceding territory. * Make sure the railroad to the hub location is prebuilt, ideally to level 2, and that you have 4-5+ trains in storage when the hub finishes (about half of what's needed for full capacity; you'll catch up by year end). Trucks extend the reach of the hub when you go on the offense, but they're less critical at this time because you're defending very close to the hub. Build them, of course, but no need to sweat over how many you've got. * My PP expenditures are, in order, war justifications, worker conditions, Zhu De as chief of army (when Secretariat completes), silent workhorse (when Rectification completes), free trade, Spanish gold reserves, improve relations with France or Britain (starting about 10-12 June '37, see below), Total Mob. There's some leeway to shuffle that around but not much if there'll be 150 PP in July '37. Afterwards it's more flexible. * I justify XSM when Shanxi justification is ready (end of May '36), not as soon as I have the PP. This saves a few PP but doesn't delay the timeline. XSM war takes place a couple of months later, but Sinkiang still happens at the same time. * Creating a 1 batallion cavalry & switching about a dozen divisions to it makes swarming XSM and Sinkiang twice faster, or nearly so. Hiring Zhu De early provides the army experience to create the template. Keeping these wars short also minimizes the chance of strikes. I very rarely get them & then usually if I the Sinkiang war drags on due to low supply. * You can improve worker conditions for extra stability early on at any time, as long as it finishes before June '37. If you do so, you can pretty much get only one staff adviser by the time the war starts. Not the end of the world. And yes Zhu is the one to hire. * To save time on researching early stuff: trains, trucks, support, towed artillery, anti-air, license from the Soviets for the 20% speedup. It's a civ factory well spent, it boosts research & you can get a head start in producing the materiel you need. You can even have a civvy licensed away at the time you reorganize the railways and still build the two supply hubs in time. Compensate for any shorfall by cutting down on imports, as Bitt3rSteel did. * My first focus when the war starts is usually to Approach the French. The Hanoi Route is then done by late '37 (Yunnan must be in your faction to start the focus, and they usually are by then) & gives 3 military factories, much needed. If you do the Brits, Burma Road gives one factory fewer, though you can claim a third down the line. * To successfully approach the French along with everything above, you need to be done conquering Sinkiang by January '37. France dislike you for starting wars & need the time to get unangry with you. Usually doable, practically guaranteed with the cavalry swarm. (If I wait to join the war until 1 August '37, it's to work off some of the French world tension malus, which decays monthly when you're at peace.) * After the Hanoi Route, the French can provide a buff on entrenchment & engineer research. I hold off on researching engineers & adding them to the template until I get the buff (early '38). Engineers require *a lot* of support equipment & having them in the template early on doesn't make much difference, I think, as they're desperately short on shovels and dynamite. Troops (at this point, 5 infantry + support artillery, 7-10 divisions per tile) hold the line just fine. There's occasional micro of moving fresh troops into vulnerable places, but not a lot. * Other ways to beef up defense are Focus on China and an infantry adviser. I go with Lin Biao, the best general. He'll get the necessary infantry leader traits to become adviser (and oh boy will he only) & will be leveling up throughout the game, increasing the benefits. * The French branch also gives buffs to research on infantry, artillery, and mountaineers + to generals on defense & logistics + a free general. Very nice. For air stuff, I go to US-Americans. * If I see Chiang undeservedly claiming territory in Manchuria, I turn off the offensive order & micro attack instead. I lose the planning bonuses, but have more control over what goes on, and the territory usually defaults to me. What I think happens is that the Chiang AI can't guess what I'm up to (on paper, the offensive isn't under way), so it (he?) doesn't take as much initiative to attack pursuing my plans, which reduces his participation. Chiang assists by moving his troops into place for defense & occasionally providing supporting fire. Ever helpful. * When getting ready for war the Nationalists, infiltrating a state 3 or 4 times flips it to me when I launch the communist uprising + gives 3 smallish divisions of commie fighters. You get a great head start with carving up Chiang's territory if you open the war by flipping Henan and/or Shandong. Hope that gives people some more ideas to try out. Great work!

[@kgb5239]

If you want more lendlease (4000-5000 guns), you can improve relations with Italy and ask them, they can also give you support eqipment and artilery

[@coldracon]

Hey Bitter, really love your videos, they've been helpful for me learning the game. however, on your achievement guides, unless you AREN'T doing a typical tech build start (engineering/industrial focus) I think it would be better to have a document of the first focuses you take, or if you pause focuses for political power gains or continuous focuses

[@laplacesansouci3075]

i have to say your pronunciations are actually quite good😀😀

[@Moh3-rekibi]

Eyy another great strat and upload!

[@xandermurdock6131]

Could you do one for Manchukuo? Breaking free from Japan got a whole lot harder with NSB, and an updated tutorial would be nice.

[@dobi2236]

This, haven't been able to do it, even with AA and a bolstered logistics buildup

[@yoanawramow8809]

BitterSteel's social credit score must be at all-time high

[@tagus100]

He’s following John Xina’s footsteps.

[@Lady_Amelia-Eloise]

No because Tibet still exists

[@yoanawramow8809]

@@Lady_Amelia-Eloise That's a problem he fixed (I made sure he did...)

[@americancommunist6076]

social credit doesn't exist, whiteys

[@sherwingonsalves8821]

@@americancommunist6076 cry harder red

[@Laz3rO]

Nice timing I was just about to do the achievement.

[@MrSleepDeprivation]

B1tter: “china usually holds out for a good while” every game i play: china sends thirty dudes to stand on my border with mengkukuo so that beijing falls in a month

[@samsonsistis7204]

i love that google subtitles writes your name as "Peter Steel"

[@Saurushunter123]

Bittersteel: “We have all Chinese core territories” Tibet: *sweats nervously*

[@Theover4000]

Thanks chief, need to do this one.

[@Bitt3rSteel]

Any time!

[@dison1172]

I’m glad you were not bitter over the lack of steel

[@connor1734]

You better appreciate such a devoted audience mr. steel, lol I've gotten like 6 ads and I ain't even 10 minutes in!

[@Bitt3rSteel]

That's impressive, even for KZbin

[@connor1734]

@@Bitt3rSteel great work as always! They are well deserved ad revenue!

[@roostrknightmk3099]

This guide is still up to date and kicking guys just formed PRC in 1944 because you can't use the new features that comes from updates as Commie China lol!

[@soviet_doge1263]

I find with the chinese-japanese war China starts to get majorly pushed when's naval invasion happens or Beijing fall, I discovered this when playing German Empire, I was sending volunteers and I was constantly cycling divisions in and out of Beijing and Japan couldn't make any progress until I was forced to leave

[@tagus100]

I have the same thing. There's two supply depots at Beijing and Tianjin, virtually right next to each other. So if the Japanese capture one, it's very hard for the Nationalists to push them back (the Tianjin one is protected by a river too); in addition to containing the naval invasions.

[@isaquelazaro656]

Dear God you captured Shanxi in just 1 month, I took over an year on Recruit mode, with ironman disabled, and couldn't win the war before the japanese attacked. My divisions, following the exact same steps you took (actually I had around 34 divisions on 2 fronts) were totally held back by 5 or 6 Shanxi divisions. I must be doing something wrong

[@subboid]

For me I just went straight through the bottom tile (which was unguarded) and sent a couple of divisons to get the victory point in the far West, and another two to get the Northern victory points. They had very few troops in the interior and they only start pulling back from the front when it's too late. You've gotta go directly to these places tho and not worry about snaking

[@DocBirkin1]

I initially had some trouble with this too, you want to make sure you are justifying and declaring on Shaanxi the INSTANT you have the PP. Any longer and they can plop one division on their capital and hold out there for months. If you take a lightning fast approach though they just won't have the divisions to prevent your tiny units from just marching all around them.

[@mastrorick]

Loool I just searched for a red China tutorial and that's exactly what you just uploaded

[@sethyboy0]

There is no way mechanical computing is worth it that early. You’d need to do like 1000 research days for the bonus to pay off the time you spent researching it and it’s hard to do that many research days with piss all for slots.

[@kova1577]

24:01 Is that a Sun Tzu quote?

[@connorhawthorne541]

Great vide. I haven't been able to do this since nsb.

[@Bitt3rSteel]

You can do it!

[@Tunehub-Community]

Les go a new bittersteel vid at work

[@pascholatti]

Just tried now, not sure if anything changed in the last update, but I can't get to justify Sinkiang so early, by then Chiang Kai Sheck gets arrested, the war starts and I'm still fighting Sinkiang. Once the war is over China is already losing and by the time I join is too late... :(

[@lilinchamp]

vid was in my recommended. enjoyed vid. subscribed

[@liamlol7340]

Is there a more in depth guide when preparing for war with Japan? No matter how hard I try, I cant get to Zhangbei and when I do, My troops lose it after a few days :(

[@uhhhhhhjackiguess]

Auto generated captions at the start: “Hey guys. Peter Steele here-“ jokes aside, thank you for your guides! i’m learning how to play nations properly after 700 hours of only playing mods

[@Iambent]

for anyone struggling to hold the mengkukuo border: change motorization level of ordos supply hub to trucks, and train an additional 6 divs so you don't get pushed back (once your infantry equipment is in the green). only with 30 well-supplied divs will you be able to hold the line

[@jackslavich9037]

POV Tibet: Haha, I’m in danger

[@peiqingguo6056]

I’m not sure why but every time I played, regardless of how prepared I was, the Japanese forces just cut through my lines like butter, like I have plenty of equipment and it just seems like nothing works after me joining the war

[@djtonylee]

Im finding the same thing, i can hold for a while but eventually they just push me out of one territory and thats the beginning of the collapse. I have tried this strat at least a dozen times over the past couple of days, and Beijing always falls WAY faster than it does in this video in every single run, and thats pretty much the end.

[@ItsAstie]

For me the moment i declare on shanxi and xibei san ma they just spam out divisions and i'm left with not enough divisions to manouver around them, so the war takes much longer, then before i can even get to sinkiang japan declares war on china and china loses beijing fast.

[@akixhunfn5096]

24:03 NO WAY YOU JUST SAID THAT😭😭😭😭😭

[@akizaizayoi4763]

Alright thanks! I just learned from you that you can deploy your units before they are fully trained and equipped for the sake of capturing territories. I'm gonna do it on my next try.

[@realhawaii5o]

What is that thing on the map at the end? "Tibet" Weird, I thought that was a part of the glorious People's Republic of China

[@serdarcicek6032]

Man, you got Professional Officer Corps at 13:02 for +5% army xp but there is another option "Bayonett Strenght " which gives u +10% xp with free infantry designer. So u can add divisions infantry with 0 army experience. This option comes with "Mass Assault Doctrine".

[@Storywalker4]

You lose it the moment you switch to going down GBP-R or SF-R. So, unless you plan on going down MA-L, Bayonet Strength is, overall, a waste of army XP. Plus, BS doesn't give cheaper doctrines. Assuming you choose MA-L, you'll pay an extra 50 XP. Not actually worth the savings unless you start building large divisions.

[@motsuwu]

The inflatration thingy will give you the province if you click the decision at least 3 times

[@MagikarpUsedOmnisplash]

Thanks for this. Looking forward to a playthrough in which I fight both the Soviet Union (to liberate the far east) and Allies to colonize their protected areas as commie china

[@BabluYogindre]

As the territory is China's core as well, you both have equal right. It's like if germany pushed the invasion on italian peninsula, the territory will go to Italy as it is their core and they are tour ally.

[@pluto6383]

This whole thing is China and Japan is this itty bitty country over here

[@Bitt3rSteel]

China Numba One

[@maxamillionjazzhands4034]

you can also eat a little political power spending to get lend-lease from sweden,and france (only when the spanish civil war kicks off) I got ~1000 infantry equipment from both every time I asked.

[@personfrommichiganlol6323]

I don’t even play HOI4 I just watch these videos for fun

[@snowarcher5637]

I would switch the field marshal to the one with the organizer trait to get logistics wizard

[@dashua1735]

Reason to go "Proclaim the People's Republics": To unlock the Social Market Economy focus? No. To give us a cooler name? Yes.

[@XGplays]

To give us a cooler flag? Yes.

[@anyoungday7839]

@@XGplays I think communist China flag is cooler

[@joelker41]

Hey Bitt3rsteel! Can you try the Manchukuo achievements again? I have tried a few times and the absolute nightmare of the supply issues in china with your limited industry as Qing China always bites me.

[@Akkise]

Manchukuo is the easiest of the Chinas. Just steal stuff from the Japanese. You can use decisions to steal their equipment and some civilian factories.

[@krasnamerah1926]

Hmm, almost like my strat, hahahaha. I even put the supply hub just one tile back from the frontline (in Suiyuan) so that my troops can go further into Mengkukuo without worrying about the supply.

[@krasnamerah1926]

Well, you are the faction leader, if Chiang has any funny ideas, request his troops, send it to Guangxi, and delete them.

[@kaifoxy_music]

The subtitles are just wonderful 😂

[@glimmer686]

So any thoughts on getting Maintenance before getting the better guns? The Japanese are going to be bashing their heads against your lines for a while and I tend to steal a fair bit from them, that and you don't really have a lot of factories to make use of having researched the better guns.

[@justindagoose377]

Ty I needed this

[@ItsAstie]

Hmm, i'm halfway my playthrough, it didn't go as expected since the minor countries we need to take over had more divisions but i still succeeded.

[@fobosydeimosarg]

Doing this last month was a pain, I was very unlucky with this achievement, I ready like 20 times in a year with many many annoying things fucking my playtrought. I stil cant get battle cry, always something go wrong

[@kiriseraph9674]

Wouldn't it be a good idea to use some cavalry divisions early on? Like with a single cavalry to just run through their territory grabbing cities and stuff while your infantry pin their army down

[@Tbonedoesfsx]

Think you can do the Miklos Horthy and the Hapsburg Prince again? NSB made it outdated. Found that out the hard way haha.

[@frozekiller9087]

the old strategy still kinda works. just remember to build a supply hub in transylvania mountain with decision

[@trottrottrot]

You can do it better. You can conquer Shanxi & Xibei San Ma and than China with the help of the Soviet Union. Then you defeat Xin Jiang (, Guanxi, Yunnan and so on..). In 1939/40 Japan will attack you and you can defeat them WITHOUT Soviet help ^^. I tried it a few times and it worked.

[@samwaldron4434]

yo any chance youve got a guide for this?

[@Cybercolascorner]

I watched the older video of you and i was like "this is old i'll make my own video and put him outta bizniz!" proceeds to find this video and QQ. My life is over. Well played! Check Mate!

[@kamalindsey]

Getting PTSD from playing Com China when the game came out and there was no white peace event so you had to literally paradrop Tokyo to peace out Japan. That and the old Mao portrait lol.

[@notaspect721]

This tutorial has worked out very well for me up until declaring on the United Front, no matter how many divisions I bring up china always pulls up around 9 divs per tile and they end up pushing me back and taking my capitol, is there something I'm doing wrong? I also noticed that you can only have like 5 generals and I can't get any more.

[@SamuelMaluco379]

I hope you bring a new Qing China guide, i haven't been able to win the independence war since NSB came out

[@tagus100]

Great video man! Thank you. Qing China next?

[@mikeevans9207]

You make it look so easy bro I’ve been on the defense the entire time praying for the us to join in soon. Chinas about to capitulate

[@mikeevans9207]

I got my shit rocked

[@kianvandenberg6364]

Same

[@SatoriHaddad]

even after doing everything in my power to increse infantry attack and defense, the Japanese still demolish me. I can get one or two tiles, then they always retaliate by utterly destroying me

[@sandercohen5543]

As someone who rarely plays in mainland europe, i didn't find supply to be that bad in china. What i did find, was that you need mountaineers to push through the southern coast, if you naval invade them as japan. Or a lot of cas.

[@ly444999]

What kind of division templates are good against Japan? I get up to the point where you form the Government of national defence and I’m fine for a few months defending but afterwards Japan starts slowly pushing in my territory. Im not even able to take back land I lose let alone start pushing into mengkukuo.

[@estebanhenaoayala]

Just friendly noting that if you do more than one infiltration in one state, you could start the war with those states being taken by you and some militia units, which are trash but you get that template. Problem is nationalist China can stop your progress of infiltration with some of its own mechanics, but anyway, I managed to start with one state taken away from them and it helped make things faster. Anyway, nice guide! I love playing communist China.

[@Sanvone]

In the past Nationalist were willing to throw every single gun out of the window to counter you even if it meant they were getting rolled by Japan instantly :V

[@iceboythechad9720]

I just watch this series for fun, not for the guide lmao. Great video btw

[@tbyenick4135]

My hoi4 communist china tech tree is different from this on and i checked the no step back DCL and it dosen't give communist china anew tech tree. How do i get the Communist china tech tree that is in this video?

[@RizzyBoeh]

24:00 that legendary quote

[@username.4019]

question, how can I make a general being able to fit more divisions?

[@dantea1474]

Not sure if you've figured this out yet or not, but it's the Skilled Staffer trait. It's earned by controlling at least 24 divisions.

[@salazarmerlin1385]

I think I have quite a different idea of play CCP. My first target is Xi Bei San Ma, then join the Soviet so we ain't got trouble fighting Sinkiang. Then turn against Tibet. I never thought about making ShanXi as my first goal ( suprisingly XD ). I might try this out when I have time. Anyways, thanks Bitt3rSteel.

[@salazarmerlin1385]

By the way, I think this strategy make CCP strong in a short time ( much faster than mine anyways ). it's just that I am a a bit upset about going to war with japan.

[@MountainPieEnjoyer]

I haven't seen any other videos, but if you haven't yet, put the mod Road to 56 on. It makes the game a lot more fun with non-basic focus trees for a lot more countries. (Including Communist China (; ) It adds a few other things too, I think. Anyways, this was a great video!