My wife watches Terminator Salvation for the FIRST time || Movie Reaction

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[@walkinglootchest1251]

The actor who played young Kyle Reese is Anton Yelchin, great actor who unfortunately passed way too young. He also played Chekov in the Star Trek movies.

[@JulianRollan]

Rip Anton Yelchin🙏🏼 He was an amazing actor.

[@Duhbiee]

He passed away due to a recall on his 2015 jeep cherokee that would cause the car to roll. His car rolled down his driveway and pinned him against a wall where he later died. So damn sad.

[@Rorujin]

His death amped up my existential dread by a lot. So random... It"s terrifying.

[@karlbecker8775]

@Max Headroom 100% I love that film.

[@mogwiawolf4354]

yeah its sad he died he was a great actor

[@JacobLunbeck]

This movie was filmed and released while Arnold was still the Governor of California which explains his absence.

[@bidwell13]

It’s interesting he couldn’t do this due to being Governor but was able to do the first expendables movie. It must have something to do with the amount of time is needed to film the part.

[@JohnSmith-jn7nc]

Arnold wasn't really needed in Salvation anyway and that's because this film is set in the future war so the story is more focused on John Connor. Unless someone had an interest to show a human prototype of T-800

[@Ryan_Christopher]

And what need would there be for OLD Arnold in this film when it is set after Judgement Day? All the T-101s would be of YOUNG Arnold, as shown in the factory battle.

[@domingorubies656]

But he is in the movie , 2 minutes xd

[@JacobLunbeck]

@@domingorubies656 He gave them permission to use his likeness for the CGI but he never filmed anything for the movie. Roland Kickinger was used and they digitally changed his face which is why he and not Arnold is credited as the T-800 in the end credits.

[@abovewater6918]

The Bale controversy as stated by many of the actors on set who have been interviewed about it. It was an 18 hour shoot that day, everyone was exhausted. And the director of photography had walked into the scene multiple times in a row, during a very intense and long scene. It doesn't excuse what Bale did, and he apologized to the DP that day, months before the audio was leaked

[@packedentertainment2866]

It begs the question of who leaked the video & what was their purpose in doing so?

[@alucard624]

@@packedentertainment2866 It was someone who had a beef with Bale and wanted to tarnish his image. Likely another crew member who did it.

[@bamflyer]

Also worth mentioning that many people sided with Bale or at least understood his argument

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

@@alucard624 wow that is crazy. Maybe both crew member set this up lol Nevertheless it failed cause Bale became a legend cause of that lol

[@StayFractalesque]

​@@packedentertainment2866 clout, probably...

[@MaximaMac]

I’ve always liked this one. They tried to not do the same formula as the last 3, making it almost entirely in the future, so they deserve props for that. I think they nailed the grim future war style pretty well.

[@markcruz359]

i only wish they tried to capture that dark blue tone of the future scenes from the first two movies

[@B-Shells]

@@markcruz359 Exactly same here

[@davidsavage5630]

Terminator Salvation frustrates me pretty badly because it's ALMOST there (plus it had one of the most amazing trailers I've ever seen) and they cast the most ideal future war John Connor but it somehow feels just....wrong. For seeming like they tried to make it be a full movie of the future war scenes from T1 and T2....it really looks nothing like those scenes except superficially and there are many many details in Salvation that are in direct contradiction to things stated in The Terminator. Like in T1 Kyle Reese says they stay down by day but can move around at night. But says literally the exact opposite thing in Salvation and I don't understand how you get that mixed up if you're trying to make such a faithful film. When that's your goal, these little details do matter. That being said...it is better than T3. But that's just my opinion. T3 just looks so bad to me. It looks subpar even if you're not holding it up to James Cameron standards. Like...it just looks filmed poorly. Like a SyFy Channel original or something. The effects are fine i guess. Salvation at least looks like it cost its budget..

[@KHAOE1]

​@markcruz359 the blue tone of the 1st 2 films is James Cameron's pallatte style he choses when he directs. You'll see the blue pallatte in True Lies as well as Titanic, The Abyss and Avatar. That's how you can tell that T3 and Salvation were made by different directors. Without it, it doesn't give the future war that dark and gloomy feel the first 2 depictions of the future war had in T1 and T2. Like you, I wish it woulda been used in this film too. Woulda been perfect for the franchise.

[@markcruz359]

@@davidsavage5630 I agree Salvation still looked too modern for something set 20 to 30 years in the future. It looked too much like Mad Max. It didn't capture the dark blue tones of the future scenes from the first 2 movie. It also needed a huge war between a battallion of T-800s and the human rebellion. Dont even get me started on T3, the future scene in that movie looked so cheao like it was filmed on a closed set instead of an outside location. Plus they just gave the actor old age makeup and a bald cap which looked weird and he looked the least like John Connor

[@braymax]

RIP Anton Yelchin, it still breaks my heart we lost him too soon. I highly recommend Odd Thomas, he was amazing in that film and it needs to be treasured.

[@Gildedbeachrat]

He’s fantastic in green room as well

[@AntG703]

Alpha Dog was good. Heartbreaking true story

[@Artisjjj]

Don't for get about ALIENS also!

[@nebulous8389]

He was a very versatile actor too! Seems like every role I saw him in he was a very different character. The Fright Night remake was an underrated vampire flick, just saying cause I loved the original. He was perfect for the lead.

[@k00la1d]

loved him in the new star trek.

[@InBedwithBobby]

Shout out to Holden for always spotting good stunts. As a stuntman and fight coordinator, it’s refreshing to see the men and women in my profession getting recognized even for a 2 second scene that we put our bodies on the line for. “You rock, don’t ever change”

[@deiwi]

The Academy should finally wake up and give you guys the recognition and accolades you deserve. It's unfathomable what you're doing for people entertainment and safety of the cast. Huge respect!

[@InBedwithBobby]

@@deiwi I appreciate that, brudduh! We do it because we love it and will continue to do so. I appreciate your recognition! 👊🏼

[@ibraHasib]

While the CGI Arnold didn't age well, I remember being blown away by it in the theatre when it first came out. The theatre went nuts at that scene!

[@kejarebi]

I still think it looks pretty alright, obviously not perfect but considering the year it was made it was cool. I also like that they blew the flesh off of him instead of keeping the CG Arnold the entire time.

[@mercenaryknight5419]

Also, standing in for Arnold here is Roland Kickinger who portrayed Arnold in the TV biopic See Arnold Run.

[@hubex_yt]

Nah i still love it alot it was ahead of its time

[@tjkhanks]

One thing I noticed was the scars John got from the Terminator scratching his face match up perfectly the the scars on John's face in the one shot we got of future John in T2.

[@jacob4920]

Of all the post-T2 Terminator films, this one is BY FAR the best one! Seriously, the others don't even come close! It's a shame they didn't continue this plotline, and instead gave us monstrosities like "Genisys," and "Dark Fate."

[@jasonthedave6140]

I actually like the concept of Genisys, but the execution was... something. Dark Fate is hot garbage.

[@jacob4920]

@@jasonthedave6140 I've only seen "Dark Fate" once, and I will happily never watch it again. At least the other terminator films have the privilege of multiple viewings from me (yes, even T3, as amazing as that sounds). But "Dark Fate" crossed a line. That's really the only way to put it.

[@FreeOpenTruth]

Exactly! I was so excited for this possible trilogy (it was supposed to be a trilogy) and this film, that I bought the book and read it before it came out. I loved it and wished they continued with this storyline.

[@Taj_Rahine]

Yup, even though this movie itself wasn't the best, continuing this storyline was the best bet for the franchise. We definitely need to move past judgment day at some point and move into the future war.

[@CharlesVanNoland]

This movie is my favorite, second only to T2. I just really liked how gritty and gnarly the world building is, the design of the terminator machines, etc... Everything was just so nicely bleak, gloomy, dark, and gray, and super post-apocalyptic. The scene where the torso crawls after Connor was just chef's kiss, the dirty crappy terminator focused exclusively on killing him, and the realism of the whole thing. It was orgasmic for me.

[@jjmedia7932]

For me these 4 files are great and have an overall complete story. T1 - focusing on Sarah and Kyle and introducing the terminator, T2 - focusing on John and Sarah and the creation/destruction of Skynet, T3 - focusing on an older John and setting up his transformation into the leader of the human resistance and actually seeing Skynet and judgement day take place, and T4 - John now a military leader set post judgment day in the future.

[@markcruz359]

Kyle Reese: "Who are you?" John Connor: "IM BATMAN!!"

[@Quinten_Shibusawa]

I remember my dad taking me and a bunch of my friends to go see this opening night. I always liked this movie. The Christian Bale controversy is sad because I honestly think it was just a case of a bad day at the office. I've met him a couple of times and he was so nice.

[@jacob4920]

High-octane actors get seriously worked up, emotionally, during filming. And after a particularly bad/long day of filming, when they just want to go home, but can't leave until the director is satisfied. It's terribly easy to boil over and go crazy on a guy who messes up a scene because of accidentally inserting himself. I can easily see how Bale, at the end of a long day, would go off on the dude. It happens.

[@papahamdrew9962]

It’s the problem of method acting, he was probably extremely stressed and tired, he always got too into his roles. He seems like a nice guy

[@Allaiya.]

@@jacob4920 yeah think Cruise has done similar a few times if I recall.

[@J.Artan6]

And who knows it could’ve been hour 17 of the day and ya know..shit happens when you’re sleepy.

[@thedragonlee76]

Bale wanted to leave the film.The producers/director changed the script at the last minute. Originally,Bale was supposed to be the lead hero.They threatened to sue him for 100 million dollars if he quit the film.

[@Matthew_Baratheon]

Thank you! I feel that how much this film was hated at the time was wayyyy overblown. Personally this is one of my favorite ones, and I love that during a rewatch, ,after you know that Marcus is a Terminator, alot of his actions and even his movements mirror some of the actions in the original 2 films. I definitely give it a strong 8.

[@drogynbattlebrand5229]

Glad to hear you both liked it. It didn't get the appreciation it deserved at the time. I'm a sucker for post-apocalyptic settings and as such this one is almost my favorite of the franchise. These days it makes me a little sad though seeing Anton Yelchin (RIP). For a long running franchise Terminator really has pretty decent quality throughout.

[@dabbadonisthestout7284]

That potato chip bit at the end really caught me off guard 😂😂😂

[@neutchain7838]

yeah I really like their editor, its not intrusive but a few well placed memes here and there really adds just that little touch of extra fun :)

[@megavideopowermegavideopow8657]

The callback to the opening of T2 showing John Conner’s face with scars was explained with the Terminator’s face burning at the end of the movie to John Conner(I own this on Bluray one of my favorites)* the assembly line of Terminators including Arnold was genius

[@BratBond1]

Happy that you two enjoyed this one. This is my third favorite of the franchise, and I wish that they would have went further with this cast in the story.

[@JC-XL]

This is my third favourite Terminator film. The best part is how intimidating the terminators look, including the T600s as well and the atmosphere of the post-apocalyptic world. What I don't like is that they went a bit far with the terminator models - the large (transformer) terminators, the bike terminators, water terminators, etc and that the film overall did not have an epic purpose like the first two films.

[@Obiwankanoli]

Comment of the day goes to Holden for the snack joke 😂😂

[@AGBULLIT]

I am happy that you are giving all the Terminator movies a chance. I am a fan of The Sara Conner Chronicles too.

[@ThePatchedVest]

Yeah, not a lot of reactors go past T2, which is a shame, because while they’re not all great they’re by no means unwatchable and deserves to be experienced at least once to make up your personal opinions.

[@FreeOpenTruth]

Yeah, I hope they watch both seasons of Sarah Connor Chronicles.

[@Marktec]

I think you guys nailed most peoples' opinion of this movie and I'm really curious on how you guys will feel about the next couple of movies. Also, are you guys going to watch the Sarah Connor Chronicles? It's 2 seasons and is surprisingly great!

[@resonaire]

Yeah, I'd second watching the series. It was really fun

[@CrystalisQ]

I've watched the scene with the Johnny Cash song I don't know how many times now. Just chills every damned time, and the bad guy was 100% perfectly cast.

[@justsomebryan]

I agree that Salvation was a very enjoyable movie & its a shame that it didn't get a proper sequel. TS was meant to be the beginning of a new trilogy but unfortunately it didn't work out that way. Christian Bale was a solid John Connor & the late Anton Yelchin was a good Kyle Reese & really had the potential to grow into the role. It'll be interesting to see your reactions to the next two films as they're very interesting takes on the Terminator franchise.

[@lou7139]

After the end of T3 we all figured the next movie would FINALLY take place in the future and they delivered! I remember loving this movie when it came out. Would have been cool if they kept building future movies on that future world but...well, we know what happened with the following movies...

[@koreygeren2677]

Yes, I wish they had continued on and made a couple more films with this cast, in this continuity. I wish it more now than I did back then.

[@ThePatchedVest]

I do hope someday we get a continuation of the T3-Salvation timeline in some fashion, be it a video game or a movie or something. I’m kinda tired of the various post-T2 continuity reboots.

[@IP_Films01]

​@@ThePatchedVest we did get a comic set after Salvation where it ended with Skynet and the Resistance ending the war, joining forces. That's about the only thing we have.

[@FreeOpenTruth]

Everyone was mad because it didn't look like the future in T2. But they are all just whiny babies because this was 2018 and the scenes in T2 were 2029. So yeah.....

[@shainewhite2781]

Stan Winston, Oscar Winning VFX artist passed away during the filming process of the movie. It was dedicated in his memory.

[@chrisjan4397]

Jen throwing that Alice in Chains reference out there was the highlight for me🙌

[@fernando9933]

I absolutely adore Anton Yelchin (Kyle Reese). His passing breaks my heart knowing we won't see his expert acting in cinema. It would be great for you two to react to a film he stars in.

[@Rorujin]

Btw this one had another ending that even made it some novelizations, but test screenings and fans reacted so badly to it that it was changed. Basically John Connor would downright *die* but his importance as a symbol and humanity's savior was so that his skin is fitted into Marcus and *he* would become John Connor. That was changed to Marcus giving away his heart because of the backlash. Which is ironic considering what they did to John Connor in the following movies.

[@moveblom]

I've also heard of the dislike this movie gets, but personally I've always liked this one. Seen it mmmmaybe a couple dozen times. The overall pacing is a nudge faster than the previous movies which is totally fine. It makes it easier to get invested in the movie even if you're not familiar with the plot or haven't seen the previous movies. Casting choices are excellent and portraying of the characters is on point. Overall, a very easy movie to watch and enjoy. Also, superb reaction, as always!

[@joshfuller7103]

I loved the actor who plays Kyle, I was heart broken when and how he passed away. RIP Anton Yelchin

[@jinxie712]

It's kinda ironic how he died with him being Kyle Reese.

[@Shaughn21]

Way to young, he would have been a huge name by now staring in big roles! 😢

[@jacob4920]

The Star Trek movies nearly suffered without him, but luckily, they managed to piece together the scenes that Yelchin did as Chekov, and still put the third movie together.

[@breezy3392]

I love the concept of the T-hybrid, someone who is part machine and doesn't know it and the conflict that can come from it. And other characters having to overcome bias to see how human this person still is

[@WraithWTF]

This movie is definitely underrated amongst the Terminator movies. I love the callback to Terminator 1: Marcus teaches Kyle to tie a safety sling to his weapon so it can't be snatched away from him in this movie, and in the original Terminator movie we see Kyle tying that same safety sling to the shotgun he stole from the police car in the beginning of that movie. Small subtle details and callbacks like that are what really make this movie work as a worthy sequel. Though the face of that Arnold CG was very uncanny valley, even for the time...iirc, Arnie was a full CG replacement, as they wanted him bulked like he was in his younger years. As for the Bale "controversy" that happened, it didn't happen because of Bale being a prima donna or anything like that (he's apparently a really nice guy to talk with). They were at the end of an 18+ hour day of shooting, which had been spent trying to nail a very long very dialogue-heavy scene which required Bale to be super hyped-up and angry...the DP had walked into frame and ruined multiple takes throughout the day, and on the final take when it appeared they'd finally nailed it, the DP walked into frame again and ruined it. We all have limits to how much frustration we can handle, and that was the point where Bale hit his limit. His "acting anger" for the scene and his actual frustration merged and boiled over, and he snapped at the guy. And to be fair, what Bale said wasn't wrong...a DP should know better than to walk into the middle of a scene while the cameras are rolling, doing that is some amateur-hour shit. Doesn't excuse Bale for doing it, but it is far more understandable than it was originally made out to be. From reports of the other actors on-set, Bale did apologize to the DP when they were leaving that night as well, months before the audio of the incident leaked.

[@al_alemania]

I love this film out of all the post T2 films simply because it at least tried to do something different and it was so close to hitting the mark

[@BichaeldeAngelo]

Overall, I’d say this film the best cast outside of the original two. Bryce Dallas Howard sneaking in there is a treat in addition to the primary protagonists too. Also, I don’t think there was really much more to tell in terms of story in the pre-apocalyptic setting so I appreciate them hitting the beginning of the trend of post-apocalyptic films.

[@jacob4920]

I liked BDH as Jon's wife much better than Claire Daynes. CD I wanted to just shut up the entire time I was watching T3. But in this film, the character fills a much bigger need, and doesn't come off as annoying/weepy.

[@disclaimer.imjokin]

Remember going to see this in 2009 with my mate. And that opening credits with the music and the DUN DUN DER DUN DUN got us so hyped. Was amazing that sound in a cinema

[@rbsteve9191]

I agree. This movie is very good addition to the terminator franchise. Love the different feel and being able to see the war in the future.

[@TheWindcrow]

The way the even explained how he got his scar from the 1st one when we see him is a good touch.

[@thechad4485]

This is the best Terminator movie to come out after T2. I would have really loved to see the sequels they had planned, as this was supposed to be the basis for a new trilogy. The second film would have started with the resistance breaking into Skynet facilities to get more advanced weapons (plasma rifles and such) since normal guns were useless against the new t-models. And while doing so, they discover the facility where time travel is being developed and tested. John sends himself back to 2011 London to warn of the impending doom, but Skynet sends several terminators back after him, leading to a city wide fight. John does come back somehow. Robert Patrick would have been introduced as a scientist that was turned into a human-terminator hybrid like Marcus, (Marcus being the test subject so that RP’s character could be created) so that Skynet could use his cell replication work to build the T-1000. He’d return in the 3rd installment as an antagonist, reveling in the opportunity to continue his work, and develops the T-1000 to look like his younger self out of hubris and narcissism. And would lead to an all out war for humanity with a human victory by the end of the film. This was supposed to end the Terminator franchise. Bring it to a full close. Instead, a bunch of man-children were upset that: A) John wasn’t inexplicably the leader of the resistance right out of the gate. B) They didn’t already have plasma weapons when that technology is barely being developed. C) This movie didn’t do everything that was being planned for the entire trilogy in one single movie. So, the sequels got scrapped, and were replaced with a couple of the worst movies ever made instead. Whoops.

[@BrandonDuckett]

"You can't put it into a CHIP" killed me. That and "That's how you ask for snacks in the middle of the night." XD quality content.

[@kokojonitv]

I remember when I first saw this I wasn't a fan because it "wasn't Terminator". After re-watching it with you guys I have to say I actually really enjoyed it. Thank you guys for allowing people like myself to give things a second chance and keeping us company through hard times.

[@rowaystarco]

I think it's certainly better than the newer ones. I always wanted them to explore the futuristic setting, the only thing disappointing was that it was set earlier in the war. It could have been cool to see a similar but improved design as the future scenes in T1 and T2.

[@patmolinie2529]

after the 2 firsts, my favorite. I heard that Bale was most bankable so Connor survived and Marcus sacrifice himself but originaly a project was to kill Connor and Marcus had to take his place pretending to be John Connor : few people knowing how he looks like, he talked to radio, i think this version would have been very interresting that the cyborg would have been the one winning the war against the machines

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

People would have been pissed, though! Oh boy. Esp. since I remember that people already had started being annoyed that Sam Worthington was essentially everywhere at the time. Seeing this young punk replacing John would have been too much.

[@daverowe03]

RIP Anton Yelchin, who played Kyle Reese. He also played Chekov in the newer Star Trek movies. His career was just taking off when his life was cut short by a tragic accident.

[@smccallion]

I really liked this one off. They tried to reboot the franchise and it was planned to be part of a new trilogy which I was excited for. Sam Worthington was set to be the new action It guy but it never took off after this and Avatar so that was a shame.

[@smccallion]

Also this is the first movie without Arnold. It’s 33% on rotten tomatoes is ridiculous. I think the nostalgia of the originals really skewed perceptions at the time. The fact that the effects and set pieces hold up today is really impressive.

[@CaptainAmercia]

it wasn't really a reboot as the film follows off from the Terminator 3 where Judgement Day happens in 2004 rather than 1997. So I guess it's more of a soft reboot where the past three films happened but everyone's recast. But agree this would've been a cool trilogy.

[@Ryan_Christopher]

Can’t be a reboot. Everything that happened here still set-up what happens in the time-jump back to 1984. J Connor still leads the Resistance, the T-800s still look like Arnold, K Reece still grows-up to become a soldier in the Resistance and gets sent back in time.

[@b6k66]

I love this movie I wish I had taken off as well as I would’ve been so intrigued with getting more films in this timeline maybe at saving Private Ryan vibe.

[@Ryan_Christopher]

@@b6k66 Terminator: Genisys shows more future war and the final attack on Skynet like we wanted, but they rebooted it at the last moment. More details would be spoilers.

[@avatar11792]

Hey, congrats on your to-be kid Holden and Jen! They're wonderful little critters! Best of luck!

[@mogwiawolf4354]

i really love this one and grew up watching it and all the others as well

[@Light-Rock97]

This movie is so great. I don't know what you people were smoking back when this came out. The visuals absolutely hold up, the story is excellent, the characters feel real, and the call backs/fan service are of the kind that, if they weren't there, I'd be weird, so they're totally welcome and warranted. CG Arnold is absolutely the only blemish in this masterpiece.

[@bretthake7713]

That comment of the day edit really got me, how perfect lol. Great job as usual to DMFX

[@DMFX1]

Thanks Brett!

[@stephenmalloy88]

Excellent reaction and editing. Thanks for all the great work.

[@peterschmidt4348]

Please watch "All Quiet on the Western Front" (2022).

[@blinkachu5275]

Honestly, this is probably my second favorite Terminator movie. T2 first, then T:Salvation. It was really cool to see the "future" side of things

[@queelude9]

For the cgi Arnold they had the plaster lifecast molds of his head from the original Terminator and they ended up scanning the head into computer. I was always impressed with being a mixture of practical effects and cgi for that scene.

[@jamesteden4926]

the snack joke had me dying haha

[@jamesosteen09]

Salvation is my favorite behind T2 and T1. I actually really enjoyed it.

[@CatteYokai]

Severely underrated movie imo. People like to hate on it, but a lot of it was really well done. Personally loooooved all the terminator types in this as well. Including Marcus.

[@richardfeynman4452]

19:41 haha these reactions wouldn't be complete if Holden didn't try to trigger a sector of the population everytime. I love it.

[@SuRoFo]

Now imagine the impact of that twist if you watched the trailers for this film.

[@Reevnar]

I really appreciate that Terminator Salvation did something different from the other films, instead of just following the same formula.

[@frozenkiller]

cant get the picture out of my head of Jenn elboing holden in the chest than leaning over him and screaming in his face "COME ON BRING ME SNACKS" 🤣😂🤣

[@marwanboudanga]

I think you should definitely watch the Expendables 1, 2 and 3, they are a blast to watch!!

[@CaptainAmercia]

I would love to see you guys play Terminator: Resistance set within the original Future War depicted in T1 and T2. It's got so many cool Easter eggs to the first two movies and it feels so much like those first movies not to mention the cool setting.

[@kd84afc]

This was a very well made movie, the visual effects and terminator effects were very well done. My gripe with this film is the story and Marcus's mission. Skynet created Marcus and his mission and he didn't even realise what he was doing was to bring John Connor and Kyle Reese to Skynet. But he didn't set out to find anyone, he was just wandering around the city and randomly was shouting at a T600 and was shot at and was saved by Reese. He then fights a massive robot and falls to the grounds and skips a long the river like stone, and he randomly comes across Blair he helps free and who then takes to him to the resistance base and where Conner is stationed which was lucky Blair lets him escape after he is hit by a mine and it is finally revealed he is a terminator even thought the fight against the robot was the give away. He saves Connor from the Robot snakes in the water and agree to save Kyle at Skynet, they both go there and Skynet reveal their plan to Marcus and he succeeded in bringing them Connor and Reese to Skynet. But Skynet did not know the locations either of them and Marcus only found both by luck.

[@theheadsn]

The original ending of having Marcus Wright taking the mantel of "John Conner" after he dies would have been awesome and made complete sense. Not many people knew what John Conner looked like, let alone met him. It would explain why he was so impossible to kill and how he was able to ultimately defeat the machines, because a machine was the one helping. Owell, alternate universe

[@FreeOpenTruth]

They changed it because it was an awful idea!

[@Kickinthescience]

And now the roller coaster ride through the Terminator franchise begins

[@Black0raz0r]

They should watch Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles TV Show

[@spikefishnetwork1118]

So in regards to the walking on set thing. In bales defense they where shooting in hot weather in hot sweaty outfits and the mic guy kept getting in the shot and it get to a point where the guy didn't for the umpteenth time and bale kinda had it at that point and was overheated and mad. Hope that clears some things up. 😊

[@jacob4920]

Yeah. What nobody says is I'll bet the director and fellow crew members were also pretty ticked off at the guy, that day. But of course nobody cares about them. They only care that Bale lit him up, and of course the tabloids are going to run with THAT narrative. lol

[@peterandretta8328]

It wasn't the mic guy. It was the director of photography Shane Hurlbut. He was adjusting lights while filming was taking place.

[@spikejr3113jr]

Hey, it’s the movie where the famous Christian Bale rant comes from. The original script had John Conner die and had Marcus Wright take his place and his face, making John Conner a symbol even after his death, explaining that it wasn’t even John who was the hero but Marcus with Johns face, I don’t know why they changed it but they did.

[@Spongebrain97]

I think they changed it because Christian Bale wanted to play John Connor and not Marcus who he was originally cast as and the hope was they'd make some sequels with Bale continuing to play John

[@packedentertainment2866]

R.I.P. Anton Yelchin. Loved him in the Star Trek movies & the Smurfs movies. He was an amazing actor

[@keithmorrissette584]

T2 is my all time favourite movie by a country mile and I think this movie did a very good job of keeping with the spirit of the first two movies. Very good and rewatchable

[@Xenosaurian]

I love this movie! This is the first Terminator movie I watched in theatres after my dad had showed me the first three! It's so frickin awesome! I also think it's a real shame they didn't continue this new trilogy...

[@victorsos100]

I really like and appreciate this movie a lot!! The future war is very well done, the cast was really good and the destroyed world settle was pretty cool!

[@SurrealNirvana]

Hey Holden and Jen, your latest reaction video to Terminator Salvation was a blast! Holden, you always manage to bring so much enthusiasm to your reviews, and Jen, you get extra points for watching an action movie in your 3rd trimester! I hope you had a comfy pillow and some snacks handy. By the way, Holden, did you catch all those easter eggs in the movie? You're like a Terminator detective! And Jen, I bet your little one was kicking up a storm during those intense action scenes. You guys are such a fun couple to watch, and I always look forward to your videos. Keep up the great work and don't forget to take breaks and get some rest before the big arrival!

[@CrossOutBryce]

I've only seen this movie once or twice. It is WAY cooler than I remember it being!

[@Stephen64138]

The last Terminator movie to have some redeeming quality.

[@shogunn2517]

One thing I don't think was caught was the scar Connor got from the T-800. It matches the scar the character had in the flash forward in the beginning of T2. I just think they did a really good job of keeping the Continuity. The rubbery skinned T-600s Reece talked about. The scanned code he showed Sarah. How he talked about being rounded up. I also liked how it continued Connor's story from 3. How he is supposed to be important but not immediately important in the resistance hierarchy. Overall, it was a solid Terminator movie. Honestly as high as the series could go.

[@SGz_Eliminated]

Yeah Holden was on point there were 18 years between T2 and Salvation so Arnold was looking a lot older and wasn't in the same shape he was in during his bigger buff days so it wouldn't have made sense to cast him as the brand new T800 rolling off the assembly line. That and also Arnnie was doing a lot of other stuff at the time and seemed to steer away from acting a lot around that time, he was still governor of California when this movie came out. Some might argue they just shouldn't have skinned the T800 but personally I was fine with it, they kept the view of his face brief but it cemented it was the model we had all come to know.

[@nigeltrotter2886]

3:52- Moon Bloodgood. I already loved this movie, but now I really love it. 14:20- Now hold on ya'll we need to finish before ya'll do. Let's get this done now.

[@williamjackson6705]

You've got good eyes. That was indeed Michael Pappajohn from the first Spider-Man movie. This film is underrated. Arnold was the governor of California at the time & couldn't participate.

[@dakotalost170]

The ending scene with the whole. "You can't put it in a chip" got me so bad it's not even funny. That was the quickest edit and I about pissed myself laughing 😂

[@dallassukerkin6878]

I shall have to re-watch this I think and see if it has improved for me. For all the quality ingredients in it about all I can remember is that Moon Bloodgood is part of the cast (a screen crush and my vote to play Honor Harrington if they ever get around to finally making a film/series of those stories).

[@ghostmkc4045]

Salvation is underrated. Social media killed it before it had a chance.

[@robertbendinelli9843]

I love that the doggos are back in the laps. They are so beautiful.

[@Poooof]

My favorite Terminator movie. Love that Jen liked it

[@11DNA11]

24:45 that cracked me up totally :D

[@zmarko]

Anton Yelchin did such an excellent job of playing a young Reese. I saw this a few weeks after Star Trek came out and was amazed how different he sounded from the Chekov character.

[@Bagofsoup]

Good review as always, but I really loved the use of Arnold in this limited way, since the T-800 was being introduced, and the idea that they used a younger version of him that seems to match the original movie. I love this movie and think one of the only reasons some people don’t like it as much is that they don’t show the laser guns seen in the future battles shown in the first three terminator movies. This is simply because we haven’t yet reached that point in the timeline, but they eventually will.

[@Torron79]

Really a pitty that they didn´t follow this movie - would´ve loved to see more of this post apoc stuff. Really loved this movie!

[@SuperTyrannical1]

I think no matter what you think of later movies in any series including the aliens movies. It's a good idea for you to watch them because they are part of that franchises zeitgeist and coming to a better understanding of the fanbase and why they reject some movies and love others or why they could be polarising etc. You get the full fanbase experience and try to place yourself in the fans shoes at the time of these movies releases for each one off the back of the others.

[@blaketfg9374]

Remember T-2 changed the timeline. In T-3 we are told John Dies by model 101 (Arnold) and in T-3 they kill all the people who were going to be his generals. So in Salvation he could have died but also he isn't the resistance leader because he doesn't have any of his generals. The timeline changes in every movie. There is technically only one Arnold, 101 model of the T-800. John's wife was at the factory because in T-3 she finds the T-800 after it kills John so it was supposed to make you think back to T-3. Salvation also explains that humans are turned into terminators which is why marcus is a prototype and why internment camps are at a factory.

[@wobaguk]

The original ending had John actually die from his injuries, and Marcus volunteer to have John's face/skin put on his body, because John was too important as a figurehead to lose. I think it was actually shot, and test audiences were horrified that the John that sent back Kyle in the original movie wouldnt have actually been John at all, so fortunately they reshot it as the released ending.

[@philipforchrist2239]

If I remember correctly the original ending was leaked online before the film came out. It was not the ending footage, but the spoiler info and the internet response was unfavorable to say the least. Because of this the reshot the ending with Marcus giving his heart to John.

[@Punisher6791]

Don't understand why everyone hates on this film, its quite good with competently filmed action scenes. Compared to the trash that came after its a masterpiece. It actually tried to do something different and not just copy what T2 did. Genysis and dark fate both just have the same story as t2 with a good terminator protecting a messiah character from a bad terminator. Salvation actually shows us the future battle. Also Arnold wasn't in the film because he was stull governor of California at the time.

[@alvinmatias7591]

Sorry one more, the part where the t800 scratches John's face. In T2 john as an adult has a scratch on his face. And t3 John has a scratch in a flash forward scene of him celebrating the Victor of the war

[@newspooiechannel]

I'm sure this was already mentioned elsewhere, but Arnold was Governor of California during the time the film was made and had other priorities. The film was also made 25 years after the original and he had aged quite a bit physically. For the size of the part and the cost it would have taken to get him back, it made more sense to go with a CGI double.

[@lazzman8230]

Really excited you guys enjoyed it...Next Genisys...where there was TOO much risk...but I still enjoy it. Cant wait for the next one.

[@Trifler500]

This movie was made while Arnold was governor, so he wasn't available. They actually took old footage of him in a wrestling match and choreographed Bale's movements to match. :)

[@johnwalker1058]

One thing I really like about this movie and what it brings to the overall franchise is that we finally see the post-apocalyptic future world where the Resistance and Skynet were battling it out. I mean, sure, we got glimpses of it and flash forward scenes from the previous movies, but after getting this movie, we get a good tour of how the world is for future humanity and the results of Judgement Day. It also unifies the machines in a really nice way, building on the lore established about Skynet in T3. We see Skynet not only as an AI that went rogue in deciding that humanity needed to be wiped out, but that Skynet is apparently a pretty clever mastermind, while all the machines are not just individual, separate, mindless killing machines, but well-coordinated chess pieces in a brilliant, evil AI's plot to finish what it started.

[@Chevellecruz]

I don’t need a “COMMENT OF THE DAY!” Lol but i hope you all have a happy and healthy baby. I definitely plan on getting you guys something off your registry! 🤗

[@koreygeren2677]

The first 3 movies (and last 2) ostensibly have the same "chasing & time travel" plot. At least this one tried something different, and I think it succeeded pretty well. Very glad you guys made it to at least this one. I hope you check out Cersi, River Tam, BAG and that kid from Heroes in Terminator:The Sarah Connor Chronoles.

[@Thomas_Donofrio]

i had no idea that Anton Yelchin played Kyle Reese in this! wow, he really was a gifted actor. RIP

[@SomeRandomMario]

I wished they had used the original draft of this version of the film. Where John Connor actually does die, and it's actually Marcus wearing John's face who keeps the resistance going. It would still explain why "John" trusted Kylie to go to the past, his ability to connect with skynet and steal its information to fight against it, making him Skynet's greatest enemy.

[@craigsmith9775]

S.M. Sterling wrote an Infiltrator trilogy that takes place directly after T-2 where Skynet hatched a half Human/Half Machine. Stellar trilogy.

[@LongBlackFingers]

Wish you two could've seen the Terminator ride at Universal Studios Hollywood before they closed it. It was live action combined with new film footage. They have it on KZbin.