One of the most important and interesting ways to analyze popular music is album architecture.
@Chrisratata5 жыл бұрын
I actually compile my playlists, and love digesting/listening to them, as concept albums...some taking me months of off and on tinkering to get right. Adding structure, controlled flow, and oftentimes a narrative really takes an album up a few notches.
@nathanricetalks2 жыл бұрын
I always tend to go with my feeling with these things.. but it's good to know the "rules". I am about to arrange my current EP in the works like this: 1. Intro 2. Title Track/Banger 3. Story telling track 1 4. Ear catching track 5. Story telling track 2 6. The best one that i put the most work in and has the most energy 7. The DEEP, dramatic track with a music video 8. a Bonus, Outro track that's kind of light and funny.
@VincentJNewman5 жыл бұрын
Learn the rules, Then break’ em!
@laloarr Жыл бұрын
There were no rules. So I made ‘em and then i broke ‘em!
@sleepylive9295 жыл бұрын
and now EP structure pleaaase
@Chrisratata5 жыл бұрын
EPs can deliberately have a lack of cohesion to them if you so choose, for the sake of showcasing a variety of what you can do. But if you do choose to make an EP more concept based, the structure he talked about here would still apply, just more condensed (i.e., no time for filler, and each track may take on more than one of the roles he mentioned here...yet still in the same overall order).
@samuelwiseman62175 жыл бұрын
would imagine it's the same thing, just condensed. My guess is that FF would say of a 3 song EP to do the opener, 2nd single, and closer, that way you're following a 3 act structure and still leaving surprises for fans down the line with your other 2 singles.
@Chrisratata5 жыл бұрын
I actually compile my playlists, and love digesting/listening to them, as concept albums...some taking me months of off and on tinkering to get right. Adding structure, controlled flow, and oftentimes a narrative really takes an album up a few notches.
@vaniaelizabethespinoza63635 жыл бұрын
Hi there. Are you a Virgo too? 😅
@Chrisratata5 жыл бұрын
@@vaniaelizabethespinoza6363 Libra
@vaniaelizabethespinoza63635 жыл бұрын
ChrisJ Fox Oh, it’s cause that’s an answer that I would probably give about my playlists too, and I’m a Virgo. 😊
@AprilKeez5 жыл бұрын
This is really interesting. I love the concept of structuring an album the way you would structure a novel or screenplay. Thanks!
@SBTCP2 жыл бұрын
Np 😉 April and also a album 💿 structure and album sequencing are exactly the same.
@SBTCP2 жыл бұрын
Think of sequencing as writing a story, it would be odd if in the 1st chapter the characters are introduced, and in the next chapter, they are dead. For your listeners, it would be awkward to hear a soft song that transitions into a heavy fast-paced song. Singles are what attract your listeners, but an album is how you make them into fans. You have worked hard to create and produced every part of your story, so take the time to focus on the sequencing. Listeners will easily skip from one song to the next, you need to give your listeners a reason to stay for the whole story, and not to skip chapters.
@theaddictofgaming91745 жыл бұрын
When shit hits the fan, are you still a fan? Perfect ending...
@lariatolariato6 ай бұрын
Mortal Man is the greatest ending to any album.
@badaducci_3 жыл бұрын
I watched this video to help me with creating my new album structure and it turns out I was already following the structure! Thanks for you help!
@patrickjorgensen5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for giving us your insight on this!! Much appreciated!
@SBTCP2 жыл бұрын
Your album (or playlist) is a journey, a story! The format is the main reason why albums are still very important. When curating an album keep in mind to sequence your tracks to release and build tension, doing this will make the songs leave a more impactful listening effect. If you have a couple of songs that soft, pair that with a couple of songs that are livelier after. However, grouping similar tracks work too.
@smithjohn3834 жыл бұрын
Never release the best single first. Then the following ones will be disappointments. Start with the weakest single and build up from there, people will be amazed every time. That advice is from Depeche Mode and given the length of their career I think it as solid one. Also when you hear it, it just makes so much forehead-slapping sense. Here's my take on a good album structure. 1) an overall good and catchy song that pulls one into the album 2) a little faster or heavier piece to finalize the pull 3) time to calm down for a while and also show you have some versatility 4) another fast or heavy Some bulk, with at least one single 9?) fast, happy or heavy to contrast with the last one 10?) a ballad with a fade out that keeps you hanging on. Sad or bittersweet one that makes you want to start over again with the uplifting first track. If it is much slower than previous, the previous song should not have a fade-out, because that sort of makes the last one sound lazy and dragging. There should be a sudden stop and at least few second gap before the last one so it can have a fresh start. Your mileage may vary :-)
@ufoufo27885 жыл бұрын
"Road to Joy" off Bright Eyes' I'm Wide Awake It's Morning is, in my taste, the greatest album closer ever. How it stays low energy with a positive yet unconfident sound throughout, then with a powerful breach of confidence at the end with a mass of instruments and him screaming the album title into a harshening finish. Just... yes.
@BetweenNowAndForeverOfficial5 жыл бұрын
i could not click this thumbnail fast enough. love everything you do. Just got your new book last week and read up to the start of the journal, So exciting to jump in tomorrow! Now I am re reading the addiction formula that has helped me evaluate the way we write our songs. Thanks for the great value as always.
@thesuncollective14755 жыл бұрын
I'm getting the book
@BetweenNowAndForeverOfficial5 жыл бұрын
@@thesuncollective1475 Recomed it def
@Holistic-songwriting5 жыл бұрын
Thank you man! Always means a lot to hear that what I do is helpful!
@kubaurbanski43885 жыл бұрын
Wow that was a nice one! I used to think that the structure of an album is all about having enough fast songs to fill in the space between the ballad kind of songs. Or the other way around. Thank you!
@thesuncollective14755 жыл бұрын
Like it - Good mix strong opening , variation..fillers mo fillers..Fillers are important once ppl are sick of the single they can go deep..nice arc..M on my forth album..looking to choose out of twenty..great ideas thx
@PablOScar15 жыл бұрын
I definitely needed this. Thank you so much. About closers, I believe you can have the best of both worlds. A nostalgic, closing feeling that tells me: “Things had change since song one.” “We are at our destination and you traveled the path with us.” But, at the same time, musically, it’s a song that’s representative of the band singles: “This is still us. Changed, yes; but still us.” For me, no one used to do this better than the Foo Fighters. “New Way Home” from “The Colour and the Shape” being the perfect example. Nostalgic and yet powerful.
@wheels72895 жыл бұрын
Tracks 5 through 11 have seemed to be where my favourites are on so many albums, especially 5.... occasionally 3 or 4 hahaha! Most albums I listen to have more than 11 songs on.
@awol.oper8r5 жыл бұрын
This really does tie in well with film. It's all the Hero's Journey!
@Benheartsart3 жыл бұрын
One of the best closing tracks I’ve ever heard is Björk’s Anchor Song, it’s incredibly moving and one of her best ballads
@AnthonyCabling11235 жыл бұрын
my idea for an album has been all over the place and this really just structured my whole idea into a more sound project thank you
@202guitars5 жыл бұрын
I love this! I feel like a lot of my favorite albums follow this structure! The 1975s last couple of albums come to mind. They start off with the super poppy songs and bring the more somber, more emotional songs in the second half
@manuel_ao5 жыл бұрын
Normally my favourite songs are the last one of the album, i.e. Bedshaped by Keane or Daft Punk's Contact. I always knew that last song had to be good for a reason.
@Chrisratata5 жыл бұрын
I love when closers sound like great closers. It'd be interesting if a die-hard music theorist could extensively break down the chord progression characteristics that most closers partake in.
@jamesfisher572 жыл бұрын
I like 'hope ur ok' by Olivia Rodrigo because it doesn't follow the rest of the album, and it switches to a happier but sad ending.
@ishouldbesleeeping2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this. I keep coming back to this particular vid and it really helps me organise thoughts and ideas
@innersunandvision18905 жыл бұрын
Single frame @ 2:44 Tyler Durden is that you lol;)
@SBTCP2 жыл бұрын
Not only do you want variety from song to song, you also want to vary up the way your songs segue into each other. Sometimes you want songs to fade out, followed by a few seconds of silence before the next track starts. This is especially good if the song in question is powerful, so listeners will have a chance to digest it all before the next song begins. Other times, you’ll want one song to flow into the next, or perhaps have a song brashly cut to the next one, startling the listener. Again, the White Album offers up a nice mix of segues. “Back in the U.S.S.R.” cross fades into “Dear Prudence.” “The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill” ends abruptly, cutting straight into “While My Guitar Gently Weeps.” The variety of songs and segues keep the listener engaged. (By the way, in order to get these segues just right, you’ll want to hire a mastering engineer who will have the tools and experience to handle fades, cross fades, and everything else you need.) Listeners need a break in the action, otherwise they get overwhelmed. Albums used to have two sides, so artists were forced into telling a story in two, roughly 20-minute chapters (or four chapters for double albums). Today you have the ability to break your album into as many chapters as you want, and keeping them to 20 minutes or less is good practice. To create a suite or chapter, simply have the last song in that chapter fade out or include a grand finale of sorts, then include a few extra seconds of silence before beginning the next. Smile, by Brian Wilson, is nice example of an album that is broken up into three chapters. The songs within each chapter flow directly into each other, but then there is a definite sense of closure to each suite. example king of fools by delirious and feeder Polythene used a lot of segue for sure.
@Hevvvyyy4 ай бұрын
Songs for the deaf by Queens of the stone age has great transitions between tracks, love it a lot
@IsaacPrinTheNerd Жыл бұрын
My album is structured like this: 1. Intro/Bop 2. Jam 3. Bop 4. Jam 5. Banger 6. What the fuck 7. Bop 8. Light sound, heavy subject 9. Back to banger 10. Jam 11. What the fuck 12. Jam 13. Bop 14. Light sound, heavy subject 15. Banger 16. Bop, banger, jam, with a touch of wtf
@gbirdo47185 жыл бұрын
Metallica albums are kinda like this. Their openers are always lit af. Fight fire, Battery, Blackened and Hardwired.
@vincenthuynhquansuu84255 жыл бұрын
Metallica albums mostly go by : 1. intro 2. opener 3. single/light filler 4. power ballad 5. dark filler 6. dark filler 7. instrumental 8. mfcking (head)banger
@betterdanu10003 жыл бұрын
This makes so much sense, thank you!
@chukwubuikemanueyiagu156711 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I’m in the process of making my first project! I’ll come back to this when it’s out and doing amazing numbers
@joshhuxleyisdead5 жыл бұрын
Dan Harmons story circle really drives home the structures of stories
@wyattstudios185 ай бұрын
1:29 Taylor Swift released one with 31
@markbryant7743 Жыл бұрын
Anybody else notice that little flash at about 2:40? Is that some kind of sumbliminal programming??
@JubaDeMetalAlumínio2 ай бұрын
Jequiti
@Ruru-zp3ol2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I imagine this is useful for so many things with any creative assemblies and beyond to make a great impression on an audience. ♥️
@StellarConvertor3 жыл бұрын
Gained so much from this channel x thanks so much man
@lukasfochr40455 жыл бұрын
Thank You so much for making these videos man, they're very helpful and inspiring
@JacobAndJamal4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I’ve been making music as a hobby for some years now; but finally trying to put together some legitimate music. I’ve been looking for a “blue print” to guide my scattered ideas into Completed projects, and your videos help a lot
@pmsoundtrack1404 жыл бұрын
Really cool content. I like to think that all has to be coherent in an album so the structure of album itself has to say something. Maybe you could add 2 or 3 examples for each of these types of songs. For example (talking about the energy of the songs, not the quality of it, don't kill me all should be singles in term of quality): The Opener:kanye west - power or good morning Singles: Arctic monkeys - When the sun goes down| SOAD Chop suey Banger: Muse - Hyper music (that bass...) Light filler: Coldplay - The Scientist Switch: Queen - Bohemian rhapsody Dark filler: Marilyn Manson - Coma black or Coma white | The Raconteurs - Blue veins Closer: Radiohead - Exit music (for a film) Another advice for album structure would simply be: copy the structures of albums you like and make it yours, or live concert setlists. It could be fun to write this kind of album structure per band, I mean picking a list of songs for best of album for a band or artists
@empyrean-jamelgreaves80343 жыл бұрын
Next up, seamless album structure. Albums like Dark Side, Metropolis Pt 2 and Colors.
@johnwallace23192 жыл бұрын
what if all I have is the heavy songs that make you want to scream or cry?
@oliferamusique5 жыл бұрын
Great video! This makes a lot of concepts that I was struggling with clear. I will definitely be looking back at this for some inspiration once I start arranging my next album 😄
@pagemoat7074 жыл бұрын
Incredibly helpful video bro thank you
@goatsurgeon4 жыл бұрын
I like taking these templates and modifying them to fit my style of music
@Vitwoes5 жыл бұрын
“You see?! I told you!” < that’s me saying to a friend after watching this video when we talk about the importante of the order of the songs in an album. Really nice, dude!!
@Holistic-songwriting5 жыл бұрын
:D perfect!
@SBTCP2 жыл бұрын
As shown on 1:02-1:04 so true.
@clear_gray_sky5395 жыл бұрын
I can only listen to about 3 songs max in a row form one artist nowadays ! Even the new tool album that I think is amazing , I find my self listing to about 3 songs then I go to podcasts or other artist
@Chrisratata5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The same sound can get boring. I make concept playlists that convey a narrative but want them to be playlists with as much track variety as possible while still being as cohesive as possible.
@comotuabogada2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video☺
@goatsurgeon5 жыл бұрын
how do i apply this to death metal?
@jonwide66895 жыл бұрын
You basically just saved our upcoming album, Big thanks!! /NINA
@suzannabanana7772 жыл бұрын
Album is amazing.
@rouevalentino5 жыл бұрын
12. The Encore
@ohkee5 жыл бұрын
Hi, nice video! I recently stumbled upon an article which explained why today's chart albums are 'long'. It's because 'Billboard' counts 1.500 online listens as 1 album sale. When you release an album, and you have more songs on you album, you get to the 1500 faster (assumed fans listen to the whole album the first time). Interesting right?
@JosephHitchcock5 жыл бұрын
Great video! I really agree with all of this. In the future I'd be curious to see an analysis of how to structure longer albums. The best example I can think of is Paramore's "Paramore" where the short ukelele songs break up the album so it doesn't feel too long/boring.
@Chrisratata5 жыл бұрын
Think of each few songs as a mini album all its own. The overall still “needs” to be cohesive and tell your story, but each handful of tracks needs to have a semi-completeness (at least in your own mind) while at the same time leaving no sense of resolution just yet.
@Holistic-songwriting5 жыл бұрын
It's the same - the only difference is that you might have 2 songs that fulfill the respective function after one another. So you might have Intro - Opener - Opener - Single - Single etc.
@JubaDeMetalAlumínio2 ай бұрын
For longer albums, I prefer that they have longer songs rather than simply more songs. Morningrise by Opeth only has 5 tracks, but all of them are over 10 minutes, one over 20; meanwhile, Taylor Swift's albums are very boring and repetitive. In case of 10+ songs, it's really important that they vary in form/structure, lenght, tempo, even style. Temple of Shadows by Angra is mainly progressive power metal, and has a lot different texture in some songs like Wishing Well, The Shadow Hunter, Morning Star, Late Redemption and Gate XIII, but there's more metal banger stuff like Spread Your Fire, Temple of Hate and Winds of Destination.
@corbanfinn43734 жыл бұрын
do you have this as a list *with* descriptions somewhere? it'd be pretty handy ;)
@MrbdWzrdOjos5 жыл бұрын
Noticed a rendering issue on 2:44. Almost thought it was a subliminal message.
@DasMica5 жыл бұрын
This is so interesting! I just discorvered this channel and I'm loving it! More of this! So here's a question (not sure if it's really in your topics).For me the hardest songs to write are upbeat, danceable songs that just make you smile widely and make you want to move your legs. Is this the case for more people around here? Any tips on that? :)
@tatemcilwain17752 жыл бұрын
surely the intro, opener and first single can be done in just one song right?
@distinguishedgentlemen51202 жыл бұрын
Yeah the search by nf is literally that
@Sporkonafork19 ай бұрын
Lots of older bands do this and it works perfectly
@s_e_n_s_e_s4 жыл бұрын
This is great info! Thanks man
@johnwallace23192 жыл бұрын
Simon whistler?
@amoney818 Жыл бұрын
Good info thanks Bud
@experi-mentalproductions53583 жыл бұрын
I keep coming back here to make sure I'm doing everything differently... (also, 2:44, subliminal messaging?)
@AustinNovel4 жыл бұрын
Intro - set mood opener - Grab Attention Sample Bite - all killer, no filler Flavored Sample Bite - Experimental Summary (still palatable) Different Flavored Sample Bite - Experimental Summary (still palatable) Sample Bite 2 - Get investment SWITCH - show other side (open second half) Heavy Flavored Sample Bite - Experimental Summary (still palatable) Heavy Different Flavored Sample Bite - Experimental Summary (still palatable) dramatic nostalgia (often performance closer) Credits Rolling
@SBTCP2 жыл бұрын
Album structure and album sequencing are the same.
@kaulinman96705 жыл бұрын
awesome as always
@myheartsings283 жыл бұрын
Does all the songs on the album has to be related to the title?
@MrGuyWhatAGuy3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, very informative. Can you give us any good examples of albums that you've listened to which have followed this pattern you're describing?
@ethanstover98597 ай бұрын
Im writing a rap album and sequenced it a couple days ago and watched this video and it has almost the exact structure you describe 😂. All that to say i definitely subscribed
@SBTCP2 жыл бұрын
And yes 👍 the last song like track 12 20th century trip is the end of the story polythene and when it was repackaged it was track 13 too.
@gregg46585 жыл бұрын
How would you go about it in a band. Would you first just gig around to gain a bit of a following, maybe a record deal (however unlikely it would seem), or would you first write a whole album and then gig around? I know making demos is great for looking to send to record labels and such but is it worth the time making an album in the beginning?
@oliferamusique5 жыл бұрын
I'd say do it! I feel like having a solid album demo (or even an EP) can only be advantageous! You can show that to the venues you want to gig for as well as the record labels. If it is well constructed it will help you "sell" your gig a lot easier. The time and effort will also help with perfecting your songs and arrangements with the band. Also 😅 Giging around with merch to sell (CDs) is a winner. I started giging before I had an EP recorded and people would ask me : "do you have a CD??" The answer was no at the time and I lost a lot of potential followers who probably forgot that I had a Facebook page and KZbin account by the time they got home, but would have listened to my EP if they had it. My two cents on the topic! Good luck and success with your band 😁
@Holistic-songwriting5 жыл бұрын
Hey man, first of all I'd say stay away from record labels - you're wasting your time. As for whether to write an album, check out kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGLXqXyhn7l6gKs
@gregg46585 жыл бұрын
@@oliferamusique Right! Definately seems like it would only be benificial, just very time consuming and also a big investment in general. It's a bit daunting but I think with this template as guidance I'm sure I'll come up with something! Thanks!
@gregg46585 жыл бұрын
@@Holistic-songwriting Will you be going in depth about that in the future or have you already made a video on that topic already that I might've missed? The artists that I am into don't seem like they dislike being on a record label, right now I can only think of unfair contracts and the tendancy of becoming too ''commercial'' like a lot pop music as downsides of those labels. And I've always been a bit confused by EP's, singles and b-sides, is an EP a small collection of singles and their b-sides or am I looking at it wrong?
@alexkunce20063 ай бұрын
I think an excellent example of this is Clancy by Twenty Øne Piløts. The masterpiece Overcompensate serves as both the intro, the crazy piece, and the first single, setting up the sound of the album. The second track, Next Semester, definitely fits the banger archetype.
@rayjayvids5 жыл бұрын
I am presuming (from this informative video) that this form of album structure pertains to albums to be released by performing bands. Should there be a different structure when in comes to making albums that will not be performed live? E.g a recording only singer/songwriter? I think this topic could make great follow up.
@HairGlitter5 жыл бұрын
I dont think its different. He's made some interesting observations. I would suggest trying to observe others music for your self and figure out what you like. It probably also is different concerning what you are trying to accomplish
@oliferamusique5 жыл бұрын
I think that it pertains to singer songwriters as well. Sure we might not have tracks that are "bangers" per say, but we do have lighter songs or more catchy songs or songs that do not have as much "lyrical depth" to them that we can open with and are more crowd friendly 😅 On my own EP, I started with catchy melodies / relatable lyrics and slowly progressed into songs that strongly hinted towards political views / deep heart break songs. It's all about making the narrative or the journey that your album offers interesting and coherent I guess.
@Holistic-songwriting5 жыл бұрын
What everyone else said. Canohead will not be performing live either, and I still absolutely followed the formula for structuring the album.
@HairGlitter5 жыл бұрын
Great insight!
@thrivedru4 жыл бұрын
WELCOMEbackeveryonefiflibbfbiclifsfwesmersinsnWITH Holistic songwriting. XD Love how you rattle that out so quickly. THANKYOU for the great content.
@DeleteScenes-o2e Жыл бұрын
Could you turn old songs that's a year old into a new album today?? Without any problems on the distributions?? Or any other platforms from doing this
@displayname88485 жыл бұрын
Great video! Due to streaming, artists are making longer albums. What would be the structure for those? More fillers? More singles? More acts/another switch (Light, Dark, third vibe)? Thanks
@minecraftavatarofhunterbiden2 жыл бұрын
2:43
@SBTCP2 жыл бұрын
Why song 🎵 have to start from beginning to end?
@GeoPol014 жыл бұрын
2:44 Starlight uses powers
@SBTCP2 жыл бұрын
Think of sequencing as writing a story, it would be odd if in the 1st chapter the characters are introduced, and in the next chapter, they are dead. For your listeners, it would be awkward to hear a soft song that transitions into a heavy fast-paced song. Singles are what attract your listeners, but an album is how you make them into fans. You have worked hard to create and produced every part of your story, so take the time to focus on the sequencing. Listeners will easily skip from one song to the next, you need to give your listeners a reason to stay for the whole story, and not to skip chapters.
@the_nichelangelo4 жыл бұрын
This perfectly sums up Gaga's albums!
@SBTCP2 жыл бұрын
Why do songs have to start from beginning to end?
@nandabguedes3 жыл бұрын
Heyyy, what about EPs?
@awol.oper8r5 жыл бұрын
The Heaviest Matter in the Universe is, in fact, the 6th track on From Mars to Sirius
@cubertuner4922 жыл бұрын
Opeth_still life
@minecraftavatarofhunterbiden2 жыл бұрын
0:03
@SBTCP2 жыл бұрын
Make sense.
@ce14025 жыл бұрын
Anybody catch the subliminal picture @2:43, I couldn't catch it lol...
@xjimdim5 жыл бұрын
Where can I check out your record though?
@SBTCP2 жыл бұрын
Over 30 minutes of runtime and 6 or more songs that’s an album 💿.
@JubaDeMetalAlumínio2 ай бұрын
There are less than 20 minutes albums with over 20, 30 tracks. There are +1 hour albums with only 1 track.
@samuelwiseman62175 жыл бұрын
Bro i loooove this. I've been struggling with how to create the vibe in an album or set cause like... do people wanna be in a mood for a while? I personally love being thrown through my emotions and this validated that. At any rate, josh waitzkin (art of learning, chess grandmaster, tai chi world champion) says that we should learn opposite schools from the depths of our own characters, and not the characters of another, so this fits perfect :)
@SBTCP2 жыл бұрын
Still part of storytelling too.
@sophiaargana51905 жыл бұрын
Tyler's recent albums are like this
@TemperedWambat3 жыл бұрын
You just described Tyler the creators Igor
@DJSTOEK2 жыл бұрын
💕😷😷😷
@jasonfanclub42674 жыл бұрын
good video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@swiszcz935 жыл бұрын
Is Canohead out yet??
@Holistic-songwriting5 жыл бұрын
I had to push it back to February 2nd. It will be worth it though! :)
@ShaharHarshuv4 жыл бұрын
So what's your album? I couldn't find your name even 😅
@Pannik3 жыл бұрын
binging with babish is that u??!?!
@studyofthescripture5 жыл бұрын
Lol but what if they press shuffle play when they click on your album?