Holy F...antom Update: Boresight Mode Rocks | F-4E Phantom | DCS World

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

Timestamps now added, sorry for the delay.

[@Murrence90]

I think this is the first video of the Phantom where I've seen the sparrows actually perform, some of those missiles tracked insanely well 😳

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

I know right, it's like they cut a number off the weapon designation... AIM-73s

[@mikeck4609]

@@Bullet4MyEnemy i find that the Aim-7M is a very capable missile (as in real life). The F model is....questionable. The Aim-7e is pretty useless and often wont track despite a solid lock. But Aim-7M is money

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

@@mikeck4609 Tbh it’s less the missile and more the radar. And then it’s really less about the radar and more about Stevie Wonder in the backseat…

[@ВячеславФролов-д7я]

​@@mikeck4609 I found aim7f disappointing in a tomcat, usually loosing track in shoot-down situations at a low targets. In an f4, however, I'm totally OK with it, it does better than the f4's radar anyways

[@liammackenzie9283]

Boresight is such a game changer, really turns the Phantom's forward quarter engagement abilities from a situational tool to something you can consistently rely on.

[@SussySerbo]

Really amazing piloting. I have next to no knowledge abt the skill ceiling in DCS, but watching you was like ingesting various narcotics. Fantastic work.

[@Glokta09]

I ran that mission vs the Frogfoots so many times, trying to get Sparrow kills the old cage way as I ran in, and it just never happened. Looking forward to testing it out again.

[@pasterivski]

Ran the mission a million times as well, and in my case I was able to get sparrows to track by going beneath the froggies and shooting at them against the sky - this way the radar doesn't have ground clutter (as well as clutter from the side lobe if you've done everything correctly). Although it's better to do at least above 1000 feet (with frogfoot being even higher).

[@obroetchen1851]

you helped me alot didnt really understand the patch notes but now i do and its big improvement and i tested the wide bore sight mode i got it to work 2/3 tries on a head on with a Mig 21 about 5-7 nm.

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

Ah nice, maybe I should give it another go

[@knightonwarbeck1969]

Possibly, the best F-4 flying in DCS. Very well done. A pure joy to witness. Thank you.

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

@@knightonwarbeck1969 Thanks man

[@nexus888]

Amazing flying. Thank you sir!

[@ItsSteeeeeve]

The first sparrow shot: oh it is not tracking, oh it is tracking, oh it lost lock, oh it reaquired, splash SU-25. Well butter my biscit!

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

Honestly blew my mind that it connected 😂 I have such a bad time using Sparrows in this thing normally, Jester acts like his eyeballs were fitted backwards most of the time.

[@Toshminosh]

I remember discussing with you before F4 released how we thought Jester would behave and if he would be really overpowered compared to a human or not....I guess they went with the safer option of him being relatively inept. Anyways this video seriously rocks and is the Phantom sparrow video we all needed to see, bravo!

[@ripper132212]

I believe wide aspect doesn't work well because it sets the speedgate so wide that the ground clutter returns will outshine any target. It might be useful on upward-looking shots?

[@ripper132212]

[context] I believe that this fire mode involves shooting off the sparrow before it's completed a bunch of strange tuning steps - the seeker receives doppler(?) data regarding your groundspeed and the targets speed and uses those to set speedgates. In "normal" operation this info is gathered from the radar and tuned into the missile, but the aspect switch can be used to guesstimate some of those parameters. Wide aspect doesn't really tell the missile whether the plane or the ground behind is coming at it faster, so doesn't know what to lock.

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

Very solid theory, will try it with some upward looking shots.

[@ArcFire_Fox]

Wow thanks for the video, im so impressed with this new ability, those sparrows are deadly !!!

[@Dragonsix1]

love the edits, the first one with the sparrow was terrific

[@belevezero2279]

the manual says you can use full action radar trigger to get a lock in boresight mode. i got it to work a few times

[@ilankeren1449]

Do you need the target to be centered on the nose for the radar to see until impact? I mean it would make sense due to it being a fox 1 but i also got splashes when i didnt point the nose directly at it.

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

@@ilankeren1449 Technically yes, but depending on the range and altitude, it’s possible to be quite a long way off target due to radar side lobes, or even reflections off the ground continuing to illuminate the target.

[@ilankeren1449]

@@Bullet4MyEnemy damn quick response, thanks sounds right

[@ВячеславФролов-д7я]

Sparrows remember their last course (or turn), and if the illumination is gone, they will continue their turn towards the target like they were going before. So if you loose your borsight in a few seconds until impact, the sparrow will still connect

[@hatchetman2379]

Jester he really should go to specsavers.

[@andyrudeseal6347]

Why does your Jester call out hostile positions? Mine just twiddles his thumbs or calls out friendly nails 20 times for the same radar

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

I think he might be just spotting helis visually (fuck knows how) or reciting what the in-game AWACS says. I’m just guessing though, most of the time for me he’s about as much help as an ashtray on a motorbike.

[@huebiscuit]

boys the Sparrows are actually useful now!

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

@@huebiscuit Still not the most flawless or brain dead weapon ever, but having the responsibility to make them launchable out of Jester’s hands is a huuuuge improvement.

[@jamespowell4421]

They gave you the Crow cannon, if you know you know post answer 😂

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

The L86 LSW? 🧐 Definitely wooshed me there.

[@nasigoreng553]

hahahaha' Knock Knock Mother Fucker You just got a subscriber. Im so depressed I live in wheat belt WA and I am trying to figure out if I am up for building my own rig with VR to get DCS going. Im so frustrated atm I need an outlet I can keep an interest in and this DCS is just incredible

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

@@nasigoreng553 Welcome aboard 😅 I would personally recommend head tracking over VR, much less of a headache to set up and the money you’ll save can go into a better PC.

[@Pug-76]

I must be doing something wrong. When to use aft or tail? When to use front or nose? About 75% of my shots don't track even when right behind a bandit .. either in aft or tail mode

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

Think of a clock face, where nose and tail are 6 and 12 o’clock respectively. Then forward is 2 wedges between 3-5 and 7-9. Aft is 2 wedges between 1-3 and 9-11. But it’s all relative to closure speed, so if you’re closing extremely fast but they’re travelling towards say 10 o’clock, Tail might still be the better pick than Aft. There’s also the matter of the seeker just not seeing them for whatever reason even under ideal conditions - it isn’t an infallible system. Also, you need to aim the nose of the aircraft at the target to ensure they’re in the beam, and it is a very narrow beam; which is partly why I was so amazed that first shot connected when demonstrating it, must’ve been close enough that the target was still being illuminated by a side lobe, because the nose was pointing nowhere near by then.

[@texastactics597]

I cannot get this to work. It will lock but missiles instantly go stupid. I like the cage mode but by that time your already getting shot at because jester couldn’t find the moon in he was laying in the desert…..

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

There’s no guarantee it will work, definitely a bit of luck involved, but the idea is that you don’t need a lock - so if the target is low altitude and Jester has no hope of seeing them amongst the clutter, you can fire regardless. You just need them to be in the radar cone, and within the speed gate of the setting you’re using.

[@texastactics597]

@@Bullet4MyEnemy thanks I’ll play around with it more. We need more F4 videos

[@kosmouz]

So now you just go Boresight mode,put the enemy plane on your reticle and you just fire your sparrow ? no lock needed?i mean this is great if i am not mistaken?

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

Basically yeah, but setting the aspect mode to what’s most appropriate is important for the missile to track.

[@TheSisi37]

@@Bullet4MyEnemy Do you get any indication from instruments that you should shoot, or is it just about praying you did it right? Great video by the way, I will definitely give the F4 another go knowing that, thanks!

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

It’s a personal experience vs luck type affair, no shoot cue. You can just ripple them off at nothing if you want to, you’re not telling it where to go, just what to look for in terms of closing speed difference.

[@mikeck4609]

since most of these fights occur within 5 miles, why would i use this instead of "case mode" plus jester context to lock up the guy in the pipper?

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

Because it’s shit - unless it’s been improved since launch? This method does away with any concerns regarding achieving a lock, or there being any ground clutter, Jester’s ability to read the radar display isn’t a factor.

[@algroyp3r]

very hard to get a lock within 5 miles hot, impossible against the ground. This is a flood mode that doesn't require a lock, just based on speed gated returns from flood illumination.

[@capngrimcoke127]

We need a tutorial on how to counter kittyhawk

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

@@capngrimcoke127 Kittyhawk?

[@capngrimcoke127]

@@Bullet4MyEnemy He is a pain in the ass to fight in ECW whenever he's in a F-5.

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

@@capngrimcoke127 Have you met me? 😅 Haven’t run into Kittyhawk, have they managed 35/0 in the F-5?

[@capngrimcoke127]

@@Bullet4MyEnemy Ofcourse I've ran into you, but since you play both sides, I rather play that side instead lol. Also, sorry for the TK from a while back. It was a 530F IR xD

[@baddypilot]

how do i go back to normal scan?

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

@@baddypilot Same as always, double tap jester context

[@jpatty5473]

for some reason i don't have those commands.... i am updated too. dammit DCS

[@jpatty5473]

ok i got it,, i had some control luas.... how do you get jester to return to search after entering bore?

[@jpatty5473]

ok you can make him go standby then back to active... not sure if there is quicker way

[@mattthacker9120]

@@jpatty5473 You can with the Jester context action button, by double tapping it. Default is "V". I'd recommend binding it to HOTAS if you have not already.

[@jpatty5473]

@@mattthacker9120 Thanks!

[@croma81]

I tested it against AI. Well... Still potato. Mirage F-1 will eat you alive in Enigma's.

[@croma81]

Spotting still very bad in this game. And nobody fixing it for 15 years.

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

@@croma81 Yeah, it’s pretty painfully bad. Thankfully knowing you’re looking in the right place is a huge help, would stand a chance spotting much of anything without the EWR reports.

[@croma81]

@@Bullet4MyEnemy In War Thunder sim , merging is fun. You can see them easily. DCS needs find a solution for sure. So Cold War sux in DCS. (I never tried WW2 in DCS bcoz of spotting)