The Faith Healer's Favorite Scam

[@HolyKoolaid]

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[@nriqueog]

Have you read "The Bible Unearthed" by Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asherr Silberman. Two Israeli archeologist who compare the Jewish bible stories to actual archeological findings. I highly recommend it, an informative read.

[@graffic13]

Wow @ 6:04 that aussie faith healer with the pink hair lady seems to be feeling something...omg he has the power of the 🍆 running right through him WTF 😅😮

[@kaceesnow]

@@nriqueog So if a few things from the bible turn out to be factual, doesn't make all the stories of the bible true. Noah & the Ark clearly didn't happened. The writer of John and Matthew aren't eyewitness, the two resurrection accounts differ significantly to the point that it is impossible to reconcile them.

[@777CAUTION777]

Still seems that you both have never been touch or led by the holy spirit; or believe in true healing through our lord and savior Jesus crist

[@777CAUTION777]

Critical thinking, scientific theory, and absorbing/teaching others on worldly things is never the best way according to the Bible and the holy spirit. I know I'd unsubsidized when I hear the trumpets sound. I'd hate to be around when I see this host/channel owner get judged on judgement day.

[@brandonng2883]

The fact that these faith healers go to hospital when they're sick tells you more than enough what these folks are.

[@EdwardHowton]

They _don't_ go to hospitals. They have private doctors on retainer. You think they're going to mix with "the poors"?

[@angelamaryquitecontrary4609]

​@@davidschneide5422It's standard English usage in England. You know, the place where English developed.

[@halthammerzeit]

Or visit another faith scammer.😂

[@ComicXanz]

Well technically, British people refer to the word "Hospital" without "The" sometimes. Or at least that's what I see British people say.

[@killerkitten7534]

@@ComicXanzkinda in the same way they say “I went on holiday” as opposed to “I went on a holiday” (holiday meaning essentially vacation for any of my fellow Americans out there) Brits have some interesting differences with language compared to us

[@AndyWilliams8]

As a small child who was raised in a pentacostal church with a chronic disease (not fatal, but painful and debilitating) there's nothing more soul destroying than having the whole congregation press their sweaty palms into your body and hoot and holler and shriek and roll on the floor week after week, and month after month until they slowly stop trying and implicitly let you know that your lack of healing is somehow your fault. My faith was already faltering, but even back then, I realized that "God's healings" only happened for things that could heal on their own anyway. Not for me though, and not for my friend in the wheelchair either. Now, decades later, my mother still props up her faith by claiming that "prayer works". She doesn't even seem to grasp how insulting saying something like that to someone like me is. These people are delusional and they make me sick.

[@yehmen29]

I can put myself in your shoes. My mother was both a Muenchhausen and a Muenchhausen by Proxy and tried to have me diagnosed with leukaemia, a brain tumour, kidney failure, and MS, in order to get people's sympathy. She was also a Roman Catholic (she nearly became a nun) and we were at church all the time. The priest, some of her friends, and herself, ganged up on me, threatening me with a painful and early death if I didn't agree to become a nun. She initially would give me 1-2 years less to live, which became 'You won't make it past 25' when I turned 18. It made it really difficult for me to believe that I really had cancer when I was eventually diagnosed with cancer. My mother, the priest, and the congregation would also use the fact that other people, or their children, had been diagnosed with cancer and/or were terminally ill, and/or had died in car accidents, to 'rope them in', i.e. try to get them to convert to Roman Catholicism. That included visits to hospices. This is still going on today, I regularly check what's happening in that industry as I am living with cancer (I plan to get euthanasia when things go bad) and as one lady puts it:'They promise their patients 'a good death experience', but my mother refused to convert, so what she got was 'the bad death experience'' , i.e. they refuse to give patients pain relief until theyve agreed to see a priest, confess, get baptised etc. Since my diagnosis I've been bombarded with advice that if I converted (not just to Roman CAtholicism but also to Islam and to Anglicanism) God would make 'The Cancer' go away... My mother and her group also had prayer groups (rosary sessions), not just to pray for people to get well, but also to pray for 'evil people', like left wing politicians, to get cancer, die prematurely etc. When it was revealed that President Mitterrand had cancer (he'd been having treatment for it in secret for a decade, while being president), it was the proof for them that 'prayer works'! Ffffff.... As you say, these people are completely delusional. What is worse is that some of them are doctors. As a result, when I choose a doctor, I always enquire about whether they believe in God or not.

[@samuelschick8813]

@andy, Had a debate with a fundy who said prayer heals and she had seen it first hand. Her claim was she had family members on deaths doorstep, passing at any moment, that close. She said they held prayer circle and the family member was instantly healed. Her: " Prayer works, prayer heals. I have seen it first hand on several occasions." Me: " And what do you do after the prayer circles and the person does not get better?" Her: " We take them to the hospital and hold prayer circles in their hospital room." Me: " And what if the person does?" Her: " Everyone in the room has to have faith. If just one person does not then prayer will not work." Me: " So in other words if there are 20 people in the room and just one does not believe, God sides with the atheist and not his followers." Her: " You just want to sin and you are going to Hell for mocking the Lord." I do have a humorous personal story about prayer circles held over me. Might be a little long so on request.

[@samuelschick8813]

@@yehmen29, "but also to pray for 'evil people', like left wing politicians" There's an old saying " There's no hate like Christian love."

[@scottsmith2235]

I was in a faith healing church for 30 years-had both my wives each die from cancer despite getting much prayer from a famous (back then) faith healer.

[@winterinbloom]

I quit going to church for a lot of reasons, but being blamed for failed healings for my chronic health issues is one of them. My church group was so supportive at first, but over time they started to suspect my lack of faith was the problem. The sad thing is that at first I KNEW beyond all doubt that I would be healed, and was not discouraged at all by multiple failed healings, because it was definitely going to happen any day. Then it began to be suggested that I had un-confessed sin in my life, or a lack of faith. I prayed with all my might, confessed anything that might look like a sin if you squinted at it hard enough, and asked God to reveal to me any hidden sin I might not even know about so I could confess it and beg forgiveness. Then they accused me of not forgiving people in my life that I had already forgiven (rough childhood) and I went to a special Christian therapy session to learn how to do the thing I had already done. Eventually it was settled on by others that it was for sure my own lack of faith that was the problem. After a few years of being told I lacked faith over and over again it did finally put a crack in my faith, and caused it to crumble completely. It took them a long time to wear me down though. I lost all of my friends and quit going to church or any events related to it because the people who were my church "family" had turned on me.

[@ophirdog]

Because faith healing is deemed religious, it's fine. But under any other guise it would be fraud and illegal.

[@charlestownsend9280]

Just how any similar delusions not named god would be treated as mental illness.

[@waverider8549]

Your avatar is 🐀💖❤so cute

[@ophirdog]

@@waverider8549 Thanks, she was a very cute rat.

[@HolyKoolaid]

It's fraud and should be illegal.

[@4Mr.Crowley2]

When it has been implicated in the death of a child for example people have been prosecuted. But I agree that this sh*t should not be tolerated.

[@Lilitha11]

Imagine the total lack of shame or empathy a person has to have, to stand on a stage knowing full well they are full of shit, and still doing this stuff. They are basically sociopaths.

[@B1-997]

i seriously doubt god would look kindly on these faith healers scamming the desperate, unless these faith healers dont believe in god to begin with as the fear of god would make them not do this scam. either way fuck these scammers.

[@Mkhl4Sure]

Money makes them do it.

[@johnnyfoxx9379]

Money and there's always new people who lack intelligence who will continue to get scammed over and over again.

[@undrwatropium3724]

Sadists

[@silvergoddess3362]

There is a special place in hell for these Grifters 🤬🤬🤬

[@YahyaAlfitna]

I used to go to a church where guest healers would come and “heal” people. The people who got healed were always people I’d never seen in the church before, and never saw again after those services. Women in wheelchairs are hard to miss in a church because they have to sit in the aisles. So I noticed these women in wheelchairs who suddenly showed up, got healed and disappeared. Meanwhile, people I knew who were paralyzed or had cancer never got healed. I was just a little kid when I noticed this and wondered why all the adults didn’t. I stopped going to church when I was 18.

[@TheIrishGamerGuy]

Raw common sense. Love to see it.

[@melissacooper8724]

In other words, they used shills to fool people.

[@sieghart7889]

thanks for sharing ur life story

[@errolhobson1653]

Good for you. And may I add, that book that they revered so much that they call the bible, it's worst book that was ever printed by mankind.

[@What-q5v]

​@@sieghart7889😂

[@MasterSpade]

The worst part is when the person is not healed... and they blame that Person!!!! They conveniently use the EXCUSE that the person -- "didn't have enough faith".... Disgusting. They are the last ones that should talk about Morals!

[@Velvetx4cove]

And in blaming that person, scammers force them to go even deeper into their beliefs through shame and guilt.They get more and more desperate to prove they're a believer.

[@mike160543]

Luke 5 17 to 39

[@MasterSpade]

@@Velvetx4cove -- Sad... but True. They use Emotional Extortion. Religions biggest weapon: Emotions. Their biggest "guns", not Love, but: FEAR and Shame. It's extreme versions of = Battered Wife Syndrome and Stockholm Syndrome. Should be ILLEGAL!!!! It would be for ANY other "Business".

[@alexandrahill200]

@@mike160543great if your Jesus, bad if you are a money grabbing scam artist …

[@DoloresLehmann]

This is a very old psychological pattern that's not restricted to Christianity. The Roman historian Tacitus tells us about two faith healings worked by the emperor Vespasian in 69 CE. Two people, one blind, one with a crippled hand, asked the emperor to spit on their eyes or tread on their hand, respectively. The emperor was kind of embarrassed, laughed at it and didn't want to. But the crowd and the two man kept begging and insisting. Vespasian consulted the physicians whether such a healing was even possible. They said that in both cases, all hope was not lost and a healing was not unthinkable. He was worried about losing face in case the people were not healed. But he was assured that if he succeeded, this could only increase his reputation, if he didn't, it would be the two sick men who would be mocked and laughed at - not him. So he did as he was told, and both men allegedly recovered. There's a clear pattern behind all this: 1. The expectation to be healed is crucial for the success. 2. The healer needs to be a person of authority and charisma for people to believe that he can work such a miracle. 3. Not the "healer" is blamed for a failure, but the victim. This pattern goes across faith systems all over the world, not only in organized religions, but also in other belief systems like new age and cults.

[@joshsalwen]

That was hard to watch people trying unsuccessfully to get out of wheelchairs. Heartbreaking

[@interwebslinger]

Yeah, I had to skip most of that part of the video 😢

[@HolyKoolaid]

Yeah, it's painful to watch, but their stories deserve to be told since faith healers ignore or distract away from them. I have nothing but sympathy for the victims of these faith healing con men.

[@roadrunner9622]

And even those who did, were still hobbling around at best.

[@SolaireOfToast]

As someone who believes in God, i feel completly disgusted by this Scam beyond all imagination. I desire to beat him up so much for what he did to those poor souls, despite knowing how wrong my thoughts are.

[@joshsalwen]

@@SolaireOfToast I’m an atheist, but I like to believe that there are more good people out there (both theists and atheists) then the scammers. But the scammers feed on people’s desperation be it financial, medical or otherwise. Breaks my heart, but we just have to try to put more good out there.

[@95mudshovel]

I use a wheelchair part time. I can physically walk just fine, just not very far because I have severe POTS. knowing that people like me are exploited in this way is _fucking disgusting._

[@Nocturnalux]

Amazing how this is even legal.

[@Galaxia53]

@@Nocturnalux The less democratic a government is the more it serves it self as opposed to its people. The US is barely democratic so the government is very selfish. It kinda feels like the democrats can just say "Yeah we may be corrupt but what are you gonna do? Vote for Trump? A member of a party that's some how even worse?"

[@thing1thing2themediamaniac43]

What is POTS?

[@cliftongaither6642]

it is disgusting , and what's equally disgusting is that people believe this crap .

[@95mudshovel]

@@thing1thing2themediamaniac43 Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome. a neurological disorder which causes, among other things, the blood vessels in the legs not to constrict upon standing so the heart has to work extra hard to get blood to the brain. this creates a bunch of unpleasant symptoms when standing for a few minutes.

[@centaur7607]

This exploitation of desperate, suffering, disabled and sick people is pathetic and cruel. Disgusting scam. Thanks for the great video!!

[@outlawrailfan129]

We don’t see faith healers working in hospitals for the same reason we don’t see psychics winning the lottery

[@BonyVerse]

Exactly They ain't real Tricks and scams

[@dannyboi_663]

My old pastor, in the Branham cult, had his niece push her wheelchair out of the building. However, I had seen her walk without it before. She was back in the wheelchair hours after the "healing", and I never saw her again. I'm glad to see Branham's prayer card scheme fully displayed here, my life has been a lonely hell thanks to that psychopath's teachings, meanwhile millions think he was a miracle worker.

[@humanebeing6230]

💜

[@JosephKano]

Healing follows : compassion.

[@smokyquartz5817]

It should be criminalized.

[@deemaske9143]

first time seeing someone talking about Branham, i was in this cult during all my childhood and was fairly surprised to see little to no content about debunking this """prophet""" in particular, I hope you did recover from these experiences

[@samuelschick8813]

@@deemaske9143, Am I to assume you two are talking about William M. Branham?

[@keiththorpe9571]

I always like to ask: "You ever see an ambulance take a sick person to a tent revival? No, they take 'em to a hospital."

[@Nocturnalux]

Nor do you see these "healers" at the hospital either.

[@RickReasonnz]

IIRC, some preachers hire out ambulances to take em to the revival, just for the show and illusion of the circus act.

[@HolyKoolaid]

​@@NocturnaluxUnless they're going to get treated for their own ailments.

[@Nocturnalux]

@@HolyKoolaid Yes. Funny how that works!

[@vls3771]

Yea. The first thing these miracle pastors would do is go to the children's hospital and heal the children .

[@paul6925]

These people are truly human garbage. Reminds me of a guy I knew in college who had cerebral palsy. He was thoroughly convinced he could be healed through prayer if only he had enough faith. Years later I ran into him at a conference in Vancouver and he was still in a wheelchair. It’s so evil giving people false hope just so you can take their money.

[@Pandalka]

conditions like "if you believe strongly enough" are literally made to put the blame on you if your prayers don't work

[@paul6925]

@@Pandalka Yep. Personally been there too. And then you or other Christians start to blame you for having weak faith or some "unrepented" inhibiting sin that is blocking God from doing his miracle.

[@alanx4121]

Justin Peters as cerebral palsy, he's a christian wh is into warning about these cashgrabbers

[@Paint57NoBlue]

My father, a pentecostal preacher, once told a paralyzed war vet that he would walk again. A week after my dad's prophecy, the man died. When asked about it, my father answered, "he's walking in heaven." It baffles me I'm the only one in that space that left the church.

[@BrandonRamirezofficial]

The thing is is that he is right. The emphasis of The Gospel is that we won’t be sad, sick or ill or in any emotional or physical pain in heaven. Love you & God bless you 💜

[@Paint57NoBlue]

@@BrandonRamirezofficial I hope you don't see this as an attack. Please don't tell a disabled individual that dying will fix them. I know you mean it from a good place, but it's morally wrong. That is the message of your comment. I have sick people in my life who've given up on treatment because they hope to die sooner to be with the lord.

[@kimdiez2681]

I would have "left the church" to, (Gods sheep doesnt follow church but follows Jesus their Shepherd) BUT I would not let that stop me from following Jesus Christ and cause me to chance missing eternal life with God and His prople. Please seek God in prayer and the study of the Scriptures alone in your own privacy and He will show Himself to you by His Truth that is Written. Please do it and give me a good report on it thanks.😊

[@Paint57NoBlue]

@@kimdiez2681 I find it insulting that you assume I did not study the word of god or pray before ultimately determining it's not true. I am a preacher's daughter, which is context I've already added. Of course Jesus was a major part of my life. I studied for years and prayed to a god that didn't answer because he's not real. That is my report. I don't intend to share my conclusions with you, as I do not proselytize to others. Share the same respect.

[@phoenixrisn9697]

As a disabled person these con artist grifters should be in prison. I've become an atheist after seeing the truth abuout religion. Despicable. I still have spiritual beliefs, but I'll never be a part of any religion ever again.

[@xdranzer0004]

You’re a spiritual atheist ? How does that work ?

[@perfectfae3534]

​@xdranzer0004 Atheist just means you don't believe in God. There are Atheist witches, atheists who believe in ghosts, atheists who believe in the power of crystals, etc. Atheist doesn't mean complete lack of belief in the supernatural.

[@millenialmusings8451]

@@xdranzer0004when ever someone says they're "spiritual but not religious" I cringe so hard 😂. They're effectively saying their supernatural delusions are more refined and better than the common folk delusions. Basically it's another version of saying my god has a bigger D that your god

[@chrisrendon461]

Athiest can have revelations and spiritual awakenings.

[@chrisrendon461]

* not revelation but rapture sorry

[@CatsMeowPaw]

If faith healers worked, we would fire all doctors and nurses and just stuff hospitals full of men shouting Hallelujah and ripping patients out of wheelchairs.

[@tuinfarto608]

Wouldn't even need hospitals, these fucks would just come to your place of residence.

[@Melnokina.-.]

Nurses = human janitors

[@condorboss3339]

Another thing that bothers me is how ordinary pastors, those who believe in their deity, but are fully aware of the scammers, do not denounce them loudly and publicly.

[@feedingravens]

That is what I tell believers in the last time. That, when they take the positives of hope and compassion and tolerance from their belief in God, then I am OK with it, but would they be not way better suited that when they see other self-proclaimed "christians" ABUSE their God for their selfish purposes, should THEY as christians not go vehemently against these people? Same is of course the case with e.g. peaceful muslims tolerating islamic terrorists or radical imams being horrendously cruel in their fundamentalism. Just as I go against Satanism, because it is for me the epitome of doing EXACTLY the opposite of what you claim you want to achieve. Satanism has a nice set of sensible general rules for life, fine. The people SAY they want to be tolerant. They SAY that they do not want to provoke. They SAY that they have no god. They SAY that it is no religion. They say they are atheists. And then they go and call their movement after a figure of the Bible that has at least almost god-like qualities, is sometimes even more powerful than the omnipotent God. They use this name ONLY because they want to provoke christians. They declare priests and create rituals, hold ceremonies, do everything symbolic that aligns with the rituals of religion. So they do everything to pave the way for religious people to declare that atheism is also a religion, is also a belief. And it is funny, when you tell satanists that they go whining "why don't you leave us in peace, we just want to have fun". No issue with having fun, but you can do that with minimal modifications in a way that is NOT the opposite of what you declare you want to be.

[@angelamaryquitecontrary4609]

​@@feedingravensWow! I think I know exactly what you mean. We had THREE separate pairs knocking on our door at the weekend, wanting to tell us the Good News about Satan. And I'm sure I recognised one of them from the leaflet stand they keep permanently (it seems to me!) set up in the middle of our town. Why can't they just get the message?

[@wakingforbacon6439]

@@feedingravensnever seen satanists hold rituals or cross burnings or anything else. Lmfao. Pushing back against religious fundies is not the same as being a religion yourself. Of course they want to provoke Christianity. That’s the whole point of satanism. To push back on the radical fundies trying to strip your rights away. Keep beating the wrong side over the head and you will help keep this extreme right wing going farther and farther.

[@ConnorwithanO]

@@feedingravens My argument against Satanism and why I won't join is that it's cringe. There are some respectable atheist activists who are members, but mostly it's just a LARPer club for Reddit atheists and lefties.

[@Theproclaimed]

Of course they aren’t denouncing anyone. They’re lying to people just as much

[@Nocturnalux]

Let them regrow a limb. We’ll be waiting.

[@trishayamada807]

Exactly.

[@doofinpuss23]

Or mending a little brain damage

[@ajclements4627]

@@jjphankYou have No original thoughts of your own, got it.

[@jasonsabbath6996]

I'm a double amputee, let's see them work their magic on me! 😂🤣🤦‍♂️

[@Nocturnalux]

@@jasonsabbath6996 They won’t even come near you!

[@michelletgs]

the video of your grandma and your dad is the sweetest thing

[@bills6093]

They should be charged with crimes, especially with their abuse of the elderly.

[@nobeoddy1664]

and piss off their base? these are voters we are talking about here.

[@ZebraWheelie]

As a wheelchair user, I find it amazing in this day and age people don't realise that most wheelchair users can walk a bit. But seriously, these guys are just a pack of vultures. No better than the essential oils peddlers.

[@craigcorson3036]

But the healing crystal peddlers - they're totally legit! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@DavidRichardson153]

Hey, at least you can get some actual use from essential oils. Okay, just one or two oils, like peppermint for repelling rats, but that's still leagues more than any faith healer.

[@bonafidehomicide5742]

Essential oils are far more useful. They smell amazing, and you can make candles and soaps with them that smell better than anything in the store :)

[@dadnonlyd3]

at least you can still find some use for those oils. there is absolutely no use for faith healers.

[@DavidSmith-vr1nb]

I have no problem with essential oils as sold in "health" shops. The damage is from overpriced stuff sold through MLM campaigns. MLM destroys lives.

[@Momoftwoboysandonecat]

These "healers" make me furious. Preying on the weak, sick, and desperate.

[@CNCmachiningisfun]

@@jjphank You *LYING* christ-stains need to grow up, and get a grip on reality!

[@DataJack]

Very well done, as usual. Great research and presentation. Hope you are doing well.

[@nathanaelaldred8885]

4:35 “Dear Jesus, the Lord’s gonna touch you…YE BOI” I can’t be the only one hearing this 💀

[@koriw1701]

Thank you for lifting up the torch from the dearly departed James Randy, a man who spent his life making sure that these evil bastards get what's coming to them. Sadly, the millions of people who are whooping and hollering at every sermon and mass still can't see something that's as plain as the nose in their face. I am disabled and live on a low fixed income or I'd be helping to support your work. But believe me, I share your material widely, so maybe some of *those* people donate to you.

[@nicked_fenyx]

Yet another slam dunk video. It so closely resembles my own experiences growing up in, and eventually working full time in, a Pentecostal denomination. So much corruption, so many lies, and so much encouragement to put faith over facts or evidence. Thank you for making these videos. We need more people like you out there, shining a spotlight on just how corrupt this sort of thing is.

[@latetodagame1892]

I thought you wrote scam dunk!😅

[@CNCmachiningisfun]

@@jjphank Get a life, you clueless christ-stain!

[@angelamaryquitecontrary4609]

​@@latetodagame1892Scam drunk, from the sound of some of those incredible 'healers'!

[@nicked_fenyx]

@@latetodagame1892 Well, he is dunking on the scammers, in a way at least. Works for me!

[@nicked_fenyx]

@@angelamaryquitecontrary4609 They are definitely drunk on the fruit of their scams. Horrible people.

[@normanriggs848]

So sad and even criminal!!

[@craigcorson3036]

But SO hard to prove in a court of law.

[@MST3Kfan1]

Terrific video, Thomas! Thank you for giving a shout out to the Amazing Randi, who is sorely missed.

[@McRuffin]

I was raised Pentecostal. Another thing I would add, is that the pastors act as if they have special spiritual insight. They will make a broad term like “God just spoke to me: there’s somebody struggling with alcoholism tonight. Come forward and receive your healing”. The church will all speak in tongues and all the malarkey. What I find interesting is the Bible says not to speak in tongues without an interpreter. I’ve brought this up to my parents many times and they just don’t care at all and dismiss it. I’ve been deconstructing lately. I no longer consider myself a Christian. It’s gonna be very difficult to tell my parents. But Pentecostals are the worst of them all. And they all completely have blinders on. They don’t even follow what the Bible says. Thanks for all your content. It’s been very reassuring that I don’t have to feel guilty about deconverting.

[@roadrunner9622]

Those who "weren't really healed" don't blow the whistle because: 1. They fear that it's because of their lack of faith, and 2. They NEED to still believe in faith healing. The alternative is to face that they are stuck with a debilitating, uncomfortable malady that is never going away.

[@perfectfae3534]

Holt shit, you're right!

[@kaceesnow]

I have severe scoliosis, I was told that the reason why I wasn't healed was because I didn't have enough faith, or I was doing something wrong. Or the Pastor would say, God would do it in his own time. Or God just wouldn't heal me because it wasn't his will. So what is the sense of day and night, over & over for years praying when God's will, will be done ultimately? These are the excuses I got when they fail

[@craigcorson3036]

The bible even says that god is not influenced by prayer.

[@whatpeoplealsoask2622]

It beak my heart to see those who genuinely can’t walk and came to this kind of event with hope only to be disappointed

[@VanessaMarieBooks]

I was a kid when my mom took me to a Benny Hinn conference. I was diagnosed with spinal muscular atrophy at 2 years old, never walked in my life, always used a wheelchair. I also have scoliosis just like the girl in the video, so of course Benny Hinn's screeners never brought us up to the stage cause they know there's no way I'd ever actually walk. But as a kid raised in a christian family, I believed all the "miracles" that they showed and had faith that one day I'd be walking too. After deconstructing and leaving christianity, it just pisses me off how they exploit and prey on people with disabilities. 🤬

[@whatpeoplealsoask2622]

@@VanessaMarieBooks I am really sorry for what you have went through. It’s really immoral for them to preach and this kind of idea and prey on those who are in need, while they can use their time and money on other options or just on other thing that make their life better.

[@ajclements4627]

@@jjphank 😂

[@CNCmachiningisfun]

@@jjphank "Benny Hinn is a fraud" As are ALL of the others!

[@wjjajshshdbdnnsndhbauhwhshs]

@@jjphank ok Mr 1k+ comments

[@Zaddy-Lu]

I greatly appreciate all your work, you have been invaluable in my deconstruction, and I don't think I can ever thank you enough 💜 I know it can be emotionally taxing, and mentally draining, but you are valued and loved. Keep up the good work 🖖🏻

[@HolyKoolaid]

Thank you. I needed to hear this. I really appreciate your support (both verbally and the super chat). It helps keep me going, and I could never have done this all alone without people like you.

[@theuprising4847]

Thank you so much for taking on these vultures. I was sucked into this scheme by my great desire to have my 20 year old son healed of cancer. My son passed at age 25 which was18 months ago. If there is a hell I can't believe there's anyone more deserving of ending up there than these people

[@The_Real_Mier]

❤❤❤

[@ethannguyen2754]

I think the fact that they keep making a spectacle of this is proof enough that this is a scam. They shouldn’t be doing this for fame or money, they shouldn’t be in front of a crowd, they should be out in the world helping people who can’t help themselves.

[@daxleone]

Don't forget, they also claim that if healing doesn't take place, it was because the patient didn't have enough faith

[@ajclements4627]

@@jjphankPlease, feel free to spam the thread with that nonsense. 🙄

[@LOL-bs1hg]

@@jjphank the fuck are you rambling about?

[@VanessaMarieBooks]

I had that thought so many times as a kid growing up. "I just need to have more faith and god will finally heal me." 🙄

[@ajclements4627]

@@jjphank You honestly think insinuating I’m a monkey is hurtful? Grow up.

[@DKoldies_CEO_Drew_Scumbag]

​​@@jjphanktoo long, didn't read. Dislike comment

[@jasonsabbath6996]

The movie "Leap of Faith" starring Steve Martin as a traveling preacher perfectly explains the con and how it's done. By the end he realizes he is actually hurting people and stops, he has a crisis of faith in reverse! Great movie and exposes the charlatans for who they really are! Spoiler alert, they are disgusting trash!

[@lll-w]

never heard of this movie but just put it on my watchlist

[@oliversch2183]

Great movie. I didn't like the end though 😉

[@mehallica666]

​@@oliversch2183Same.

[@duckmeat4674]

@@oliversch2183 whats wrong with the ending?

[@HolyKoolaid]

I'm not familiar, but now it's on my list of movies to check out.

[@heiyuall]

Fraud charges are too good for these demons.

[@Ircy2012]

Demons are better people than these people are. 🙁

[@NovaSaber]

Some of them should be also charged with assault (why are they always grabbing people by and/or shoving them in the head?), and obviously all medical woo should be considered as practicing medicine without a license.

[@ZakaryShindle1-933]

It's Blasphemy to use the Lord's name to "Heal" disabled people. And then ask others for their hard earned money so God can "reward" them for making these slimeballs richer and richer. Pure Evil

[@katiamps]

It is the perfect scam: sell something that doesn't exist and, when it can't be delivered, blame the "buyer". Once the person enters that state of suspension of disbelief - or voluntary surrender of reasoning - anything goes.

[@ssj4gogeta130]

“If you actually are a scam artist stop watching rn I don’t want you getting ideas!” Scam Artists: *understandable have a nice day!*

[@2l84me8]

I feel sorry for the desperate and gullible people who buy into these shameless scam artists.

[@scottsmith2235]

I’m with you. I did escape from just such a “ministry.” Glad to be free from it.

[@Julmaa87]

aka: religious people.

[@CHIEF_420]

🧂

[@someonefromsomewhere6650]

I feel nothing for those idiots tbh.

[@Rob-fc9wg]

Why? If they're stupid enough to believe these disgusting charlatans then they deserve to be ripped off!

[@AmberZak83]

The thing that turned me against the church (and finally got me free from the churches grip) was them trying to pray me out of the chair. They literally pulled me out and took the chair away.

[@shanel4294]

Oh my god, what happened did you fall or could you walk previously?

[@seanodwyer4322]

amber- the swine also confiscate asthmatics their asthnma inhallers . and then astma sufferer dies off astma attacks.''

[@collingalanos1783]

A woman who lived in my hometown had a son who had severe physical deformities because of a disability he was born with. She could be seen pushing him around town in his wheelchair almost everyday. He looked like a younger version of the late Dr. Steven Hawking as he was unable to use his limbs and couldn't even lift his own head. His mother told the story to some local journalists, of how she took her son to a famous faith healer in The United States. According to her, they attended one of his events, one night and were told by the faith healers helpers to wait backstage until they were called. She and her son were never summoned. The explanation given to her by one of the helpers was, time had run out and they had to close the event on schedule, so, the healer wouldn't be doing any more healing that night. She said she was crushed because she could barely afford the plane tickets she purchased for the two of them to travel both ways and she had to return home without results. It's been quite a few years now since the last time mother and son were seen in public. Sadly, I guess the boy must've died not too long after that colossal disappointment.

[@nicholase2868]

Wow, what a heartbreak that must have been. To believe you're minutes from a miracle and told try to home.

[@humanebeing6230]

Heartbreaking

[@angelamaryquitecontrary4609]

What an appalling story. To have one's hopes raised like that, and then nothing. What a herd of charlatans they are.

[@samuelschick8813]

I wish I could find the video or remember the title. But a few years back I watched a video a Christian missionary in the Philippines made. In the video he shows himself traveling to a remote village in the mountains, modes of transportation and how long it took him to reach the village. He goes on to say how the village is very, very poor and he is going to bring the Lord to the people. So he's in the village and the kids are wearing worn out clothes, houses are made out of bamboo and nipa, adults are wearing worn out clothes, no running water, etc,etc,etc. So he gathers the villagers around and starts preaching the word. At the end he starts to pass the hat telling the villagers God needs money to help spread his word and save souls. The village elders tell him they are a poor village and can barely feed their children, they point out the tattered clothes everyone is wearing and they have nothing to give. The missionary tells that they need to give as much as they can, what ever they give God will return 100x more. Yes, he walked off with their money and bragging how he handed out about 6 T shirts.

[@scottsmith2235]

That’s terrible-but she wouldn’t have gotten any results anyway, but prayer can give hope and ease the strain somewhat. But ultimately it will be realized that nothing happened because there is no god to start with.

[@huberta.3062]

I could listen to your videos all day long. You're doing such important work, these faith healers will run people dry and ruin lives without a care. The better people can recognize these scam artists, the better

[@donavanfrea6768]

Faith healers make my blood boil. Not only are they giving those who ail false hope, but they inspire those who genuinely want to help people false inspiration. My condolences for your grandmother that was a rather touching moment

[@teddivampire]

Sorry for the loss of your grandma, but thankyou for sharing that beautiful moment! Keep doing what you're doing

[@robburns4176]

Often after these ministries leave town, the venue's dumpsters will have piles of personal checks for just a few dollars, all the people could afford to give, discarded because the checks for so little are too much trouble to process.

[@deepspring09]

I see this and makes me incredibly sad and angry … these fake healers give false hope and grift vulnerable desperate people 😡😡😡😡

[@imnotahippie22]

9:40 the placebo effect I use in my life daily. I have severe chronic pain however maintaining a happy and positive attitude helps me to overcome that pain better than any drugs ever could. Yeah I still have to take drugs and hate doing so. And staying happy and positive helps so much!

[@raccoon874]

'faith healer' to assistants: *"QUIT BRINGING ME REAL CRIPPLES!!!"*

[@Zaft_K]

My mom died from cancer when I was 19. While she was in the hospital, very weak and in pain, someone brought a "faith healer" to see her. This man told her God would heal her, but only if she could love only God, not her children. She became terrified that God was going to kill us, her kids, because she was unable to acceed to this horrible demand. I have *despised* so-called faith healers ever since. How evil to terrify a dying woman in the name of a "loving" God.

[@jimthomas1989]

What will really happen to your mother is John 5: 28 & 29 John 5: 21 & 22 But that's up to you to believe or not . And there is no money involved And then what ? Revelation 20 : 6

[@PaulTheSkeptic]

2:20 I love this woman and her honesty. She's great.

[@coffeefrog]

I just found out today that the harmless little religion I left years ago was actually a vicious cult. Thank you for spreading painful yet necessary truths. We must save these people.

[@Kwolfx]

After visiting Lourdes, George Bernard Shaw is supposed have said, "All those canes, braces and crutches, and not a single glass eye, wooden leg or toupee." Kind a says it all.

[@carrotfreak1]

My best friend with muscular dystrophy, who has since past was a big believer in faith healing. It was hard seeing his mental health deteriorate, and seeing him feel like it was something he was doing wrong, causing him to not be healed. Rather then doing his best to live life, he put it on hold, waiting for his healing. I hate the churches that brainwashed him.

[@Captain-Cosmo]

Great job. Nothing exposes the fraud of religion as effectively as exposing the fraud of faith healing.

[@alanbiker5838]

It's too bad that few or none of the faithful will watch a channel like this.

[@jensandersen7011]

@@alanbiker5838 Share it with them then.

[@black6master]

Great now it is exposed for decades...where is police and courts, prisons for those people and complete suspend of possession? Nowhere and it's going happily on

[@samuelschick8813]

Don't forget they are also tax exempt.

[@HolyKoolaid]

​@@alanbiker5838You'd be surprised...

[@SeekingTruth2023]

My eyes fill with tears, when I see sick people try to get healed, and believe it is possible. 😔 These allegedly faith healers create false hopes in the sick people. And in the end the sick people are not only still sick, but feel sad and devastated, when they are told they have not enough faith or similar things. It's heartbraking to see!!

[@HouseKatArmy]

As an ambulatory power wheelchair user, I appreciate this video. The whole "only in a wheelchair if you are paralyzed" trope is so harmful on so many levels, this is just another facet of how this trope can be used to harm people.

[@breadbot999]

Scammers who prey on the disabled and desperate people are the worst

[@lysanderrivers3834]

Thank you for this As long as I can remember, I was told by the church that the church's failure to heal my blindness was my fault for having no faith, or not being right with God I'm now in therapy for CPTSD

[@Captain-Cosmo]

And remember everyone: their money is TAX FREE

[@orykoth]

I am pretty much confined to a wheelchair, I am unable to walk at all due to the damage that MS has done to my brain. I'm not likely to walk again, seeing religious people prey on the disabled really pisses me off. And, being a younger person, I tend to get treated like shit because I'm not older and don't look like I need a wheelchair. I've had so many 'jokes' at my expense, really, the disabled deserve better on a whole.

[@smokyquartz5817]

Those people are the lowest of the low.

[@57Jimmy]

Any religious person who preys on another is simply a false profit. They are everywhere and no denomination of any religion is immune. The wolf lays in sheep’s clothing. That is the sad thing about it, that many people will associate the deceitful acts of a few with the whole faithful community.

[@HolyKoolaid]

Sorry you've had to experience that. That really sucks.

[@smokyquartz5817]

@@57Jimmy That's false though. This is the Christian majority. Only a small few are good people trying their best, and because of their nature the get crushed and broken in the church.

[@Bexstarartist]

@@smokyquartz5817really? I grew up in Christian community’s and they were all like this. Now I’m suddenly disabled and all the Christians loooovvvee to pray for me consensually or not.

[@tallyhorizzla3330]

I love the faith healing scenes in the Chevy Chase movie Fletch Lives! They show how these scams work in a hilarious way.

[@westaustin9593]

Thanks!

[@ggonzalez7777]

I felt physically sick watching the abuse these con artist healers imposed on these needy folks. Absolutely revolting, and I truly feel bad for the folks that continue to attend church thinking they need more faith. It's so hard to escape if you feel desperate or if you are so indoctrinated.

[@smalls3187]

Good thing there are faith healers to heal the physical sickness you felt. (Sarcasm)

[@waverider8549]

"OK James, we will try again tomorrow morning " and pats James on the head as if he were a dog

[@Mr.Unacceptable]

It's funny how many people think a wheelchair means they can't move their legs. I can't stand for long or walk far but I can do it. The cane isn't even a clue. Yelled at for pulling out my own chair and sitting in it to go into a mall. Apparently I was pulling a disability parking spot scam.

[@espenstoro]

Education and empathy is in short supply these days.

[@mickeydecurious]

Yeah I got crazy legs too😂

[@AyylmaoCrashOut]

This made me so sad, thank you for making this video & helping awareness toward these monsters

[@A_Muzik]

I extend my condolences to you and your family concerning your grandmother.

[@DoctorZisIN]

Once I decided to try the power of suggestion. I asked my mother to help me. When my older brother came home, she looked at him like he was a ghost, and asked if he was feeling OK. He said he was fine, but she insisted that he looked sick. Then I walked in, looked at him and asked if he was fine because he looked pale. Eventually he was in bed feeling quite sick and we had to reveal the trick before he actually became seriously ill. The brain has more power than we know.

[@jacoblittle3209]

As someone who was paralyzed for 2 years this was hard to watch. You know what helped me walk again? Doctors. Science. The hard working, dedicated people that study medicine and anatomy and spend large portions of their lives learning and understanding the real life workings of the human body. No miracles. No God. Thanking God takes away credit from the people that actually deserve it

[@EVIL-C]

Well said. 👏

[@Chafflives]

I am glad you recovered. 👍

[@jesusfollowerswomenministries]

God is real and He did help you so God does get the glory and thanks, if it wasn't for God you wouldn't have had those doctors you wouldn't be able to be who you are if it wasn't for God. God is good, God does help, He can do more than you can ever know, get to know Him. Jesus who is the one and only true God and Creator came to earth 2000+ years ago to go to the cross to pay our sin debt in full. His sacrifice was sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the world (1 John 2:2). A created being could not pay the infinite penalty required for sin against an infinite God. Only God could pay such an infinite penalty. Only God could take on the sins of the world (2 Corinthians 5:21), die, and be resurrected, proving His victory over sin and death and that true and only God is JESUS! And He did all that because He loves us and wants to save us and have a relationship with us. JESUS is the only way to Heaven, only He can save us from sin and from hell ( Luke 5:32, John 14, Romans 6:23). Jesus is waiting for you to come to Him, He won't cast you away from Himself if you come to Him. He calls us all to repentance, He loves us and wants to save us. believe and have faith in God then the Holy Spirit will come in and lead you to repent of your sins and God will forgive you of your sins and cleanse you by the blood of Jesus and you'll get born again by His Holy Spirit and have His salvation, you will become a new creation (John 3:3-19). God bless

[@iva-ox2qn]

You're current disease of not believing in Yeshuah is very dangerous than the one you had previously , this will take you to hell !!!

[@alphabravo8703]

@@jesusfollowerswomenministries Who would win if god and superman got in a fight?

[@lizjoe21750]

Is about god dammed TIME!!! Also, yay! A new Holy Koolaid video!!!!😍😍😍

[@CNCmachiningisfun]

@@jjphank Stick your kiddie fiddler of a manmade god up your fetid rump hole!

[@Latter-Day-Aint]

I can attest to the adrenaline rush (and probably dopamine as well) during a religious experience. I have fibromyalgia and chronic pain for 15 years, yet left a 48 hour event temporarily not needing pain meds but when I got back to my regular routine and the religious high wore off, my pain returned and withdrawal were worse than the original condition. It seemed like a miracle at the time but now I look back on it as a cult. Also I grew up LDS so it's common for individuals who need a void to be satisfied to jump from one cult to another hoping it will fix a deficiency.

[@Jonathan-wj7dh]

If laughter is the best medicine, you Sir are the true healer, thankyou so much.

[@Deicide-xi5eo]

Monetizing peoples disabilities should be illegal.

[@tombie8763]

gods way.

[@godsire6217]

​@@tombie8763God is pretend, stop lying.

[@nobeoddy1664]

gotta love that capitalism.

[@Tony-xl2rx]

The guy whom Alph Lukau claimed to have risen from the dead granted an interview where he admitted to have been contracted by the church to play that role. He had agreed to go on national TV before he mysteriously died few weeks after granting that initial interview. And this time, he stayed dead.

[@scottsmith2235]

Wow-that’s a church alright.

[@TheFirstAtom]

Okay, first of all, I’m glad you’re back. Your videos are my favorite on KZbin. I’m sad I watched every single video of yours, because now I have to wait for whenever you drop a new one. Second, great content (even though I haven’t finished the video, yet). Much love, bro!

[@PastelOddity]

3:22 - This was absolutely adorable, thank you for sharing ❤

[@micahstarnes3327]

Man this makes me sick to my stomach, I have to watch my parents fall for this crap all the time, luckily they haven’t talked mom out of chemo yet, but if they do I’m suing

[@angrydoggy9170]

I’ve got a few clients with a tendency to self induce some form of paralysis or epilepsy. I can “heal” them just by “over talking” their mental issues. I basically tell them to stop it and get up. I must have that magical divine power. Edit. I could provide you with a bank account number, every donation over 100€ will definitely make you feel better. If anything you might learn not to be gullible.

[@Nocturnalux]

Doctors can trigger these in patients, without eve wanting to. I have a lingering pain in my leg, it has been there for years. I went to a doctor who prescribed me some injections...that did nothing. But he kept insisting, whether I was sure I didn't feel better...to the point I felt compelled to say I kinda did. I didn't. Part of what we see here, is probably that. The person is surrounded by a crowd, on top of someone who is very, very eager for them to play along. So the person does just that. At that point, saying they feel the same would disapppoint everyone.

[@CNCmachiningisfun]

@@jjphank Your god fux kiddies!

[@a.g.m8790]

@@Nocturnaluxit’s peer pressure amplified to an exponential degree

[@thomasherzog86]

My mother uses a wheelchair because she has an autoimmune disease that comes in waves/flare ups/exacerbations and in between them she does her best to remobilize herself again to stay independent as long as possible by using her wheelchair as a rollator. Otherwise she cant walk more than a few yards without any aid and uses the wheelchair for long distances. Seeing her "walk and pushing her wheelchair in front of her" made mean spirited people comment that shes faking it several times.

[@DaveB-hg7el]

I'm sorry that some people are absolute garbage. Unfortunately a large number of people are unable to step outside of their own little box.

[@thomasherzog86]

@@DaveB-hg7el thanks for the empathy. i usually try not to blame people for their inability to fight their ignorance, even if it hurts my feelings, but it feels different when its against someone you care for. that still startles me. 😞

[@a.g.m8790]

@@thomasherzog86it speaks to your self control that they weren’t immediately swallowing their teeth

[@Slowlycreepingdeath]

Thank you for highlighting these scum. As a disabled person there are enough frustrations in life without false hope.

[@Iconoclasher]

The guy at 4:07 is tragic. It's bad enough the poor soul is paralyzed, but to have some slime ball give him the false hope of walking again is the worst. A 9.9 on the Sin-O-Meter. These people are desperately grasping at straws and to capitalize on that is despicable.

[@JewishKeto]

This scam is disgusting.

[@catlady9066]

I remember a faith healer from the late 1990s. He came to Nairobi, Kenya with his own set of "patients" from South Africa. The local press got wind of the scam and the authorities told him that he had to go to the Spinal Unit and perform his miracles. The crusade aborted and the televangelist left on the next plane.

[@worthythaneofross3925]

If only the US would take a leaf from Kenya’s book on that

[@ThePlataf]

I would've paid gold to see that!

[@lastseenontuesday6040]

​@@worthythaneofross3925I'm Kenyan, and these types of scams are quite popular. There are some pastors who charge for special prayers, anointing oils and special interventions. They even have a certain limit on the amount of offerings you can give during their services lmao

[@theshipper5797]

I would have kept him from leaving and 'insisted' he perform his work. After all, he came such a long way, it only makes sense he show others his 'power', right? In front of live TV so EVERYONE can witness it. If they try to leave? Then label them as a fraud for the world to remember.

[@arches_aviation8584]

As somebody with a disabled girlfriend, it's insanely hilarious seeing people in wheelchairs roll up with normal sized legs pretending to be disabled. My girlfriend and all of her disabled friends (that cannot walk) have *very* skinny legs.

[@VictoriaMarch13]

This is hard to watch. My heart literally breaks for the people that fall for this. There's no way I could stand back and watch one of these charlatans pretend like they're going to make someone walk and then to see that person's soul being crushed when it doesn't happen! I absolutely HATE people like this!

[@gayinu]

I first off wanted to thank you for making this video, I feel so bad for the people who were pulled into those situations where they caused their bodies more harm than good because they trusted the wrong person this most definitely needs to be made aware. As a Christian myself this breaks my heart seeing people using God to take advantage of others, I know God is with everyone in different ways through their struggles but these men making promises that they can't keep is so sick and wrong. As someone who is mentally disabled, and as someone who is Lesbian I've been judged my whole life by other Christians until I found my current church I'm so grateful there are good people out there and that God loves me.

[@RebellaDeVil]

Thrilled to see a new video from you but dang this is hard to watch these poor people being exploited.

[@DeadKoby]

Every church I've ever been with believes in praying for the sick and afflicted, and praying for the medical professionals who are helping them.

[@locgirllifestyle]

Same here. It's sad the way the faith has been polluted The true faith 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@thefearmongerofficial420]

After James Randi's passing, I think there's an open position to debunking faith scammers. Carry on the torch!

[@greatsweetnice]

When I was a small chid, A man(I think he was a pastor)prayed for me, and then commanded me to walk. I was born with cerebral palsy, and have never been able to walk. At that young age, I couldn’t bring myself to attempt to stand after he commanded it. I used to think back on the experience and blame myself for not having enough faith to do it. I remember being scared when the man told me to walk. I think even at that young age, miracles kind of scared me. Also, I felt “put on the spot” because this was done in front of people who made a circle around me, and they wanted me to do it. We weren’t even at a church. It happened at a relative’s home. I’m not even sure how he found out that I couldn’t walk.

[@catco5098]

I use to go to a Pentecostal church. Pentecostal church are big on faith healing. One Sunday morning an evangelist (a traveling pastor who doesn’t have a home church) had people come up to be prayed for. An elderly woman walking with a cane went up to get prayer. The evangelist prayed, grabbed her cane and ran across the church claiming she could walk without her cane leaving that poor woman to find the nearest seat before she fell down. Thank God there was an empty seat a few feet away. That was the beginning of the end of going to church. A while later I went to a conference at a major arena with Reinhardt Bonnke was the evangelist. He started out the service by claiming he brought back to life a man who died and was embalmed. I was done with organized religion after that.

[@nehmoomakor1872]

You just became my fav youtuber cause atheist and even christian’s NEVER talk or know about Branhamism but it’s what I grew up in and BOY OH BOY. You’re an amazing channel

[@robertheck6747]

I saw a faith healer in a church once. The guy is on the stage when he asks for someone with life long afflictions. A fellow walks up on stage, the preacher asks, what is your health problem? The man says, I I I can can’t speak a a a word with with without stuttering. Preacher says what’s your name brother? He says, my my na na name is Ji Ji Jim. So the preacher tells Jim to go stand behind the curtain. He asks for one more volunteer to be healed. A guy comes up on the stage walking with crutches. Preacher asks him what’s causing his health issues. He says, I can’t walk with out these crutches. Preacher asks his name, he replies, Mike. So the faith healer says, ok go stand behind the curtain with Jim. So the faith healer starts with his prayers. After a while he says, ok Mike, throw down your crutches. Alright Jim, say something. Jim says, Mi Mi Mike jus just fe fe fell. The guy didn’t heal anyone.

[@breadfan7433]

This video, and many others with similar content, should be playing every day on national TV in the US. Furthermore, those who line their pockets by exploiting the despair or people with disabilities should all be put in jail. I live in a country where too many people are extremely religious, and yet those charlatans wouldn't even dream of pulling such an act publicly. They would be immediately ordered to stop or face charges, and any TV station promoting this scam would be heavily fined. Freedom of expression does not include the right to defraud the vulnerable. To my fellow rational people in the US, my heart goes out to you for having to live among this scum. Be brave, never stop pointing out this vile fraud, and support creators who do the same.

[@moonbeam0099]

Unfortunately, it falls under freedom of religion. In the US, Christians get a lot of privileges not afforded to everyone else. Even these scammers, so long as they claim to be doing these things in the name of faith. Disgusting! I long for the day when we embrace a more secular, atheist society.

[@Captain_Zero_]

My Father-in-law was a pastor. He truly believed in the ability of faith healing. My Mother-in-law suffers from a disease that has not been successfully healed in over 30 years. He had a traveling evangelist come by for revival one week. A lady who was in a cast walking on crutches got “healed” that night. She was walking around hands in the air celebrating her healing. The next week she was in a wheelchair. I never saw her out of that chair again.

[@bernmahan1162]

Slightly related topic - I went to a Pentecostal church where people were being "slain in the Spirit" and out of curiosity joined the queue. Got to the minister and blimey, he literally just pushed me over!

[@1870frans]

“We’ll try again tomorrow, you think about it all night and “stand” on that promise” had me smiling a little bit…