Home Made Log Chomper! (Branch Slicer? Tree Mangler?)

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@oleemillindkilde8548
@oleemillindkilde8548 2 жыл бұрын
Working with steam engines as a hobby, I have used some belt driven wood choppers very similar in principle to your design. The main difference is that these older models don't chop the branches on engine power alone. They always have a big flywheel on the cutting axle and will then only be fed when already running. This relieves a lot of force from the belt(or chain in your case) and lets the whole machine operate smoother and with less stress. Maybe even the wheel on your design gets enough momentum when at speed. This also means that your somewhat static stress tests might not be necessary(but a good idea to do anyway). Other commenters have mentioned feeding the branches at a less than 90° angle. This is also true on old belt driven designs. Here the angle is often between 50° and 75°(roughly) depending on the design. Same principle applies when chopping wood with an axe. This information is only from my personal experience though. Good luck with getting it to work! Cant wait to see it in action.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much, Emil. I was thinking that a flywheel wouldn't help much because it won't be moving fast, but perhaps I'm wrong? And, yes, I will try the slanted cut too..
@victorsavinoff279
@victorsavinoff279 2 жыл бұрын
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 Heavy flywheel makes total sense for this use - it will accumulate mechanical energy when idling, and aid in cutting through the harder and/or thicker bits. And it will reduce the impact loads on the transmission.
@oleemillindkilde8548
@oleemillindkilde8548 2 жыл бұрын
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 Your wheel seems to be about the size of a typical bicycle wheel. Those very light wheels alone have some momentum when moving at 60 rpm.(1 revolution pr second, which would let you cut twice a second) your wheel would have much more due to the bigger mass and attaching the blades on the outside of the wheel further helps by 1: adding mass to the rotation and 2: having more mass further away from the center. So i think that even though it will be moving fairly slow, it will still have some momentum. If it does turn too slow, you could compensate with a heavy flywheel like Victor says, but it would complicate the build a bit.
@victorsavinoff279
@victorsavinoff279 2 жыл бұрын
You can make use of hardfacing wire or electrodes to weld on a layer of tough steel on the cutting edge of the blades. Saves you on making the whole thing out of tool steel. And you can re-surface the blades repeatedly, if they wear out.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Yes, I'll look into that
@ThorbjrnRefne
@ThorbjrnRefne 2 жыл бұрын
This old Tony made a video about that.
@ModMokkaMatti
@ModMokkaMatti 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThorbjrnRefne was That Tony ever young?
@mekhane.broken9678
@mekhane.broken9678 2 жыл бұрын
@@ModMokkaMatti Young Tony joined the mob and died in a IRS raid.
@MurcuryEntertainment
@MurcuryEntertainment 2 жыл бұрын
What an excellent tip.
@MikClarke
@MikClarke 2 жыл бұрын
I think correct technical label is a 'shear', so this would be a 'rotary tree shear' or somesuch, but 'log chomper' works too.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
You're right - thanks
@karlramberg
@karlramberg 2 жыл бұрын
Skära in Swedish means to cut/ slice (with a knife)
@futurecaredesign
@futurecaredesign 2 жыл бұрын
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 The word I have seen people use online is Wood Chunker. Because of the sound it makes when it CHUNK!'s through the wood.
@alexnosheds
@alexnosheds 2 жыл бұрын
You can massively save on torque if you angle the blade-to-branch angle from perpendicular to slightly off 90, over or under doesn’t matter. As long as the blade isn’t asked to slice at 90° across the grain you will see a marked improvement. Should be able to experiment with an altered infeed angle quite easily as it shouldn’t require huge changes to your device. The other change I would suggest is moving the brace bracket slightly closer to the blade so that the blade “overcuts” into the channel and there will be lower risk of incomplete cuts/dangling bits. And once you’ve settled on a blade design, maybe you can invent a blade-holding-bracket so that you can a) change blades more easily and b) have a shear bolt which will break rather than blast the chain if the forces are too great. But that’s just a luxury idea hahaha
@Theorimlig
@Theorimlig 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Like how when you cross cut a log with an axe you make a V-cut instead of hacking straight into the wood.
@alexnosheds
@alexnosheds 2 жыл бұрын
@@Theorimlig Axactly! 🥳😄
@m-m8835
@m-m8835 2 жыл бұрын
Reducing the radius I feel would have an equally large impact. Will be interesting to see how it goes.
@futurecaredesign
@futurecaredesign 2 жыл бұрын
@@m-m8835 Most of the chunkers I have seen online are driven from a straight axle. 2 inches or more. A reduced radius is fine for that setup. But Tim is using what looks to be motorcycle chain here. The larger diameter wheel allows for a longer cut, reducing the strain on the chain. What do you say?
@m-m8835
@m-m8835 2 жыл бұрын
@@futurecaredesign i could be wrong but the larger the diameter the more torque required to make the equivalent cut. Provided the the blade is introduced to the wood at the same feed Over the same distance then the torque about the shaft as applied from the gear should be a function of the radius of the cut. This blade is about a quarter of the circumference of the wheel. To minimise the cutting load the blade would make a full spiral save for the open section to place a log. By having only a quarter of the wheel utilised to perform the cut it is quite a steep Incline and the required torque to Complete the cut will be commensurately high. With a full spiral blade (think a linear plane version of those truck wheel drums which are normally tractor mounted) the same cut could be made over the same distance at a diameter about 1/3 of what is currently being used the blade would look more like a snail shell at that point but for the same size of incline plane we are reducing the diameter significantly and in my mind the load into the gear, chain and motor. Could be wrong but that’s how I see it in my head.
@sinisterhipp0
@sinisterhipp0 2 жыл бұрын
7:29 I like the safety specs on top of the head, but I love the welding HAT at 7:51 even more!
@pickl5195
@pickl5195 2 жыл бұрын
my eyes hurt after watching that part
@thomaslindroos1667
@thomaslindroos1667 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder why people do this
@hometownmedic7355
@hometownmedic7355 Жыл бұрын
Ive seen a lot of “safety squints”; but usually because the proper safeties *aren’t* three inches from the eyes their meant to protect…
@stephenwhite5057
@stephenwhite5057 2 жыл бұрын
What an enjoyable time you have with the animals and countryside. Wondrous .
@popcod
@popcod 2 жыл бұрын
Always wonderful seeing things come together. Many thanks for including the developent process, with all its twists and turns. Really interesting to see the challenges you face and the solutions you use.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@BrassLock
@BrassLock 2 жыл бұрын
@popcod • Agreed, it makes me realise that I give up too easily and think my ideas "aren't working". Reminds me to keep trying different ideas/aspects, and just repeat the effort several times until a new thing happens or a new idea pops into my head after an overnight rest (or two).
@charickter
@charickter 2 жыл бұрын
Carry on, good sir! We'll be here! Tell Sandra we said hello! 👋😃👍
@Paul_Au
@Paul_Au 2 жыл бұрын
I love the videos Tim. But, please dont feel pressured to make them.
@davidquirk8097
@davidquirk8097 2 жыл бұрын
I love watching your protects Tim. Great to see Henry working too.
@frederickmoller
@frederickmoller 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim, and yes we realize that You are doing your best, that's why we follow you, Cheers my friend!👍👍👍
@nicolaiitchenko7610
@nicolaiitchenko7610 2 жыл бұрын
Frequent or no...still the most fascinating and entertaining videos on YT. Thank YOU!
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy them. : - )
@Mattay20
@Mattay20 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoy relaxing to your videos. Got to the point I'm rewatching a bunch because I can't get enough.
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch 2 жыл бұрын
Tim, you're doing great, when the videos show up then the time is right. Don't stress on that.
@lauraandedwardcannon8861
@lauraandedwardcannon8861 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you make everything pretty. Your brackets all have nice shaped ends even though they don’t need to. Good luck.
@HamidA-to8vy
@HamidA-to8vy 2 жыл бұрын
You said: you are not engineer; I am engineer and I cannot do what you do. you are very smart. It's funny that your workshop and even the parts you use are full of straw, dirt, and spider webs, and you are not bothered cleaning them. Though, it still amazingly work !
@arjenhillenius1917
@arjenhillenius1917 2 жыл бұрын
You're doing your best, and so is Henry! :)
@benmail128
@benmail128 2 жыл бұрын
Gah! I have just been working on a similar design. I cut a bunch of wood up last weekend and was quite proud..in the dark. The next day I saw many of my "farmer" welds ripped out. I spent today boxing up the diaphragms. Hopefully the only thing that fails now is the shear pin. When it runs really good, I will send you a video and share my pains. Thanks again for your work!
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just making another video about this - the forces are huge, aren't they?!
@bagamax
@bagamax 2 жыл бұрын
The result seems so obvious after you see someone done the experiment. I wonder if this feeling has it's own name, it should.
@ciarantaylor367
@ciarantaylor367 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, a video on my birthday just for me! Thanks Tim
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday, Ciaran : - )
@johncourtneidge
@johncourtneidge 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen other branch slicers on KZbin that use a car wheel hub cut in a sloping spiral to give a diagonalslicing action rather than attempting the harder cut perpendicular to the wood fibres.
@davekimbler2308
@davekimbler2308 2 жыл бұрын
They only say things like that because they really like your channel ! Your doing a fine job and putting out plenty of videos ! Keep up the good work !
@BigBeavrSlayer
@BigBeavrSlayer 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting design with the vertical blades, mine is like you talked about made from a drum. Scrap axle,scrap trailer, scrap metal and scrap generator frame was pretty much all I used to make my wood chunker. Makes lots of fuel for my woodgas truck!
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Is yours direct drive from a tractor? Or how is is powered?
@BigBeavrSlayer
@BigBeavrSlayer 2 жыл бұрын
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 I used a small generator motor 6.5 hp that spins a tire and fly wheel on the pinion of a Dana 60 axle. I can run the motor on propane or woodgass
@tandemcompound2
@tandemcompound2 2 жыл бұрын
brush cutter. interesting. you are a skilled fabricator and mechanic
@UrbexTeen
@UrbexTeen Жыл бұрын
I love your ingenuity, I love watching your videos
@nquinn91
@nquinn91 2 жыл бұрын
The torture devices you come up with are truly fascinating! Can't wait to see this one munch up some branches at speed!
@fyremoon
@fyremoon 5 ай бұрын
Perhaps look at a trip hammer, which the head is lifted by a wheel and drops by gravity, or a drop hammer which is used in pile driving. Both when equipped with an axe blade will chop wood efficiently.
@Joecha61
@Joecha61 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Tim!! Delighted to see the chomper phase taking shape! Catch ya soon!
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
I keep hoping you'll turn up one day, Joe : - )
@AlbertFilice
@AlbertFilice 2 жыл бұрын
So much to do and so many videos to make, really looking forward to what's to come!
@Chr.U.Cas1622
@Chr.U.Cas1622 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Tim. 👍👌👏 I absolutely love all channels about Sandra and you. Amongst other things I'm an inventor too and sometimes I also tried to invent the wheel again. But often times there are useful/helpful things already existing. Over the last years I've seen lots of perfectly functional differently constructed wood/branch cutters on utube. Some made with respectively made out of a heavy/sturdy lorrie/truck rim. Some machines can be seen for instance on channel Woodworking TV. As always: Thanks a lot for making teaching explaining recording editing uploading and sharing. Best regards luck and health to all involved.
@davidstud3952
@davidstud3952 2 жыл бұрын
Once it picks up speed, it will be more than powerful enough. Can't compare to hand-spinning it. All about momentum. Nice vid 👍👍
@penguins9645
@penguins9645 2 жыл бұрын
"Offer it up now" Yup, UK for sure. I see the exact same terminology in my Haynes manuals published there. Hello from Canada, nice work!
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, except we're in Ireland.. : - )
@penguins9645
@penguins9645 2 жыл бұрын
Whoops, I guess that explains the channel name. Sorry, all my geography classes were in French.
@MegaApenstaartje
@MegaApenstaartje 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing your best on the videos Tim, theyre a always super fun to watch
@krowvin
@krowvin 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update Tim, look forward to seeing what else you come up with. You'll be a complete lumbermill before you know it!
@DianeD862
@DianeD862 2 жыл бұрын
You always come up with something we can watch after our evening meal.My husband loves to see all your tools and techniques and methods.We think your marvelous Tim and Sandra.love to you both.😬😬🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈
@tracybowling1156
@tracybowling1156 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Tim! The frequency is fine. You are a busy bee. By the way tree mangler or branch biter have my vote. Say hi to Will. We always see him working hard right along side of you.
@rallymax2
@rallymax2 2 жыл бұрын
Love your energy to give it ago. Can’t imagine how you get so much done on the farm. Looking forward to the next video but take your time, it’s a pleasure to see them whenever they arrive.
@mischef18
@mischef18 2 жыл бұрын
Made for great viewing as always bro. Safe travels
@stuartwoodcock9780
@stuartwoodcock9780 2 жыл бұрын
This is wonderful. Thank you for the video. I now have a great understanding of how to build a small railway to move things around my own farm 🙂
@DemingChiropractor
@DemingChiropractor 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad there wasn't a big pond between us, I would be over in a jiff to help! Always inspiring videos. I took your monorail video you did awhile back with your friend and am making my own monorail in my back yard. I wish I could send a picture. Thanks again.
@RCAFpolarexpress
@RCAFpolarexpress 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up YOUR OUTSTANDING WORK SIR 👍👌💪😉Keep warm Cheers 🍻
@Metal-Possum
@Metal-Possum 2 жыл бұрын
A neat tip for sharpening a blade, before you use any stones or hones or anything of the sort, start by beating the edge with a hammer. It's an old trick for sharpening a scythe, work hardening the material before you go out to the field. That way they can just carry a grinding stone in their pocket for a quick tickle up as they're working.
@Devo491
@Devo491 Жыл бұрын
And you've still got two eyes? The way those branches whip around going I the chopper, I'd be wearing full armour.
@tomtruesdale6901
@tomtruesdale6901 2 жыл бұрын
Tim, you did a great job on your "Log Chomper" ! I like the way you added the embellishments to the ends of the metal pieces as they add a bit of flash to them. I am pretty sure it will all out work out for you. Post videos when you can but please remember you have a farm/business to run so do what you need to do there first.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Tom : - )
@mdouglaswray
@mdouglaswray 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting! I really enjoy watching you use a combo of old / new tech to conquer these problems! Thanks for sharing the journey with us!!
@paul1962uk
@paul1962uk 2 жыл бұрын
He's going to regret forgetting to use the visor when welding
@alexmodern6667
@alexmodern6667 2 жыл бұрын
I was very worried about eye rod damage......should always protect your one n only set of eye balls!
@BrassLock
@BrassLock 2 жыл бұрын
In Asia it's a very common way to weld. I don't know why they have such a cultural habit of "free-eyeball welding", but I cringe every time I see it on videos and as I walk around construction sites here. Life is cheap I guess . . .
@londonnight937
@londonnight937 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrassLock What if you close your eyes and do it blind?
@BrassLock
@BrassLock 2 жыл бұрын
@@londonnight937 Thats exactly how they do it in Asia all the time, but occasionally the flash beats the eyelids closing, and there's the problem. Those "flashes" accumulate.
@ronbach6453
@ronbach6453 2 жыл бұрын
I saw a KZbin video where a person was sawing using something simular, he was using a hand saw blade mounted on the wheel 90 deg to your shear blades. You could use your current design just add teeth to the blade.
@nonoyorbusness
@nonoyorbusness 2 жыл бұрын
Good old Henry!
@theramblingnaturalist9601
@theramblingnaturalist9601 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe turn it round and feed long poles in lengthways, it's always easier to split wood with the grain than cut across. Then when poles are halved or quartered the original chipper will be able to gobble them up. A "V" shaped hopper would align the poles, wheel direction ought to self feed and a sprung top roller on the outfeed would keep poles in place. Excellent video as always,
@cetate93
@cetate93 2 жыл бұрын
A very nice wood chunker! Some have found that it's easier to chunk partially green wood.
@ericstonge3285
@ericstonge3285 2 жыл бұрын
Good job 👍. enjoyed very much watching this video. Thanks 👍👍
@joestebbing9489
@joestebbing9489 2 жыл бұрын
This project looks wild (and that plasma cutter is off the chart)!
@R.Daneel
@R.Daneel 2 жыл бұрын
That's quite the voice-over. I was expecting Clangers or Wombles to wander by.
@normconel2907
@normconel2907 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the log chomper hooked up to the engine!
@leslieaustin151
@leslieaustin151 2 жыл бұрын
Another Scary Scheme from Tim! Well, i can’t comment on its viability, but you have the chain spring-link on the wrong way round Tim.. the closed end should travel forward, so its ends are less likely to catch on anything (bit of wood?) and get sprung off resulting in a broken chain and a bent link. Love all your stuff mate! Les in UK
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, the next time the chain comes off I'll turn it round - just for you, Les : - )
@leslieaustin151
@leslieaustin151 2 жыл бұрын
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 good of you, Tim, but if it separated it wouldn’t reach me, but might hit you. I’d hate for that to happen. Your videos are too entertaining, and too educational, to have you laid up in hospital! Les
@springwoodcottage4248
@springwoodcottage4248 2 жыл бұрын
You can harden mild steel. If you search for case hardening you will find many examples & various compounds including diy ones. Might be good to put some kind of safety areas to go behind when testing. Fence post sized branches would be better than nothing. Good luck!
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks - yes, I'll look into that if this thing works
@Not_Dane_Heart
@Not_Dane_Heart 2 жыл бұрын
great for watching while doing homework
@speckdratz
@speckdratz 2 жыл бұрын
Hoooooly..... that looks terrifying! But I sure want to see that in action 😍
@jpsimon206
@jpsimon206 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen a very similar design where somebody started with a truck rim. They made the cutting edge a long gradual sweep around this circumference. They were able to shear quite large timber with very small motors. I think the difference is that it's basically a trepanning cut, the blade gradually goes through the limb instead of a shearing motion. The whole arrangement is perpendicular to your design, but the principle is the same.
@jpsimon206
@jpsimon206 2 жыл бұрын
Never mind! Looks like you got to the exact same point on your own
@jpsimon206
@jpsimon206 2 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the swedish firewood machines? It is essentially what you have built. They take a big flywheel and they weld an ax head, sometimes two to the circumference. They build a little dog house around it that leaves a tiny countertop with a slot in the middle. The ax heads pass through this slot. They tend to use rather large cast iron flywheels, but I have seen some of these in video no more than 36 in across and happily shearing 11 in hardwood
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
if you can find a link that would be helpful - thanks
@tonygrimes13
@tonygrimes13 2 жыл бұрын
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 Take a look at this video of an old Swedish Firewood machine, maybe it will give you some ideas kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3ybY355e62YZ9U
@russellsmith8609
@russellsmith8609 2 жыл бұрын
Your innate sense of design always amazes me, so this might actually work. But I do have a feeling that it may have to be beefier to challenge a log of some girth. Of course you are a lot closer than you were, all my positive best wishes are with you, cheers.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks - yes, I'm excited/apprehensive to see what actually happens
@shofixi1316
@shofixi1316 2 жыл бұрын
could heat and quench the blades to harden them.. also flywheels are your friends for gathering force :) be sure to put it after the chain. cheers :)
@Hyratel
@Hyratel 2 жыл бұрын
Mild steel wont Harden, no carbon
@homegrownliberty3033
@homegrownliberty3033 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite channel. Keep up the good work.
@martialme84
@martialme84 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Love the ingenuity of it all. Truly on an unusually high level, really.
@tropifiori
@tropifiori 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Perhaps a fly wheel might help? You have such a plethora of torque in that monster motor so maybe it wouldn’t matter? I love to watch you sort things out. It is a pity you are so far away as I have a lathe and avmill and it would be great fun to help out. Best regards Frank
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I could do with all the help I can get! : - )
@jimyeetast9335
@jimyeetast9335 2 жыл бұрын
Well done Henry!!
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much : - )
@manuelweiss3904
@manuelweiss3904 2 жыл бұрын
In my area horses for collecting wood got a lot more popular as they are faster and better for the soil. It takes quite a long time to train a horse to react on different tongue clucks or noices. And it's awsome to watch. :)
@herlescraft
@herlescraft 2 жыл бұрын
that plasma cutter sure is handy
@solarfunction1847
@solarfunction1847 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, the infrequent nature of the video's is okay, just wish the video's could be longer up to 20 mins but the kicker would be if you finish on a cliffhanger at the end of the video where you are leaving everyone hanging to see the next installment, cheers mate.
@boggothedoggo3890
@boggothedoggo3890 2 жыл бұрын
again this channle is an amazing insight in to just stuff , keep it up
@jay90374
@jay90374 2 жыл бұрын
In the wood gas community we call this a chunker!
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Ah. Ok, thanks.
@fritanke2318
@fritanke2318 2 жыл бұрын
I want a cnc plasmacutter. It looks so versatile. 😍👍
@spinningtrue
@spinningtrue 2 жыл бұрын
I volunteered at a place a bit like yours once where they were pulling logs with horses but in order to make it easier they had a home-made contraption to lift the front end of the log off of the ground, reducing friction and also keeping the front of the log from digging in. I can't remember exactly how it worked but it was basically a lever that hoisted the end of the log off of the ground as the horse. Future project? Love the video as always!
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Have a look on the workhorse playlist on our other channel - you can see a couple of the things I made to do that with our horses. We usually only bother for the bigger logs though..
@cheyannei5983
@cheyannei5983 2 жыл бұрын
You could carbeurize the blades for now, to surface-harden them to make the edges last a bit longer.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'll look into that too
@RubenKelevra
@RubenKelevra 2 жыл бұрын
Did you know that you can weld hardened metal edges on mild steel? You just need special rods for this. This old Tony made a video about it. Maybe that's an option for your blades ones you've figured all the geometry out. I would go with titanium cutting edge inserts, but well, that stuff is expensive. 😬
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Ruben. Yes, I'll look into that too
@wyattnixonlloyd8570
@wyattnixonlloyd8570 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for another great video!
@DerekGraham777
@DerekGraham777 2 жыл бұрын
Looks good may i suggest for the blades if you got them sharp then get the blade heated red hot in a wood stove kinda thing then quench them in motor oil then after they are cold put them in an oven at 350 degrees f. Let them heat for about 2 hours then shut the oven off and let them cool down in the oven i think about 3 hours will do. That should make the steel stronger and never use a grinder to sharpen again use a axe file or a wet stone. For the wood stove to heat the blades iv used a charcoal bbq with a blow dryer to heat the steel up it works great bassicly the same as having a forge
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Derek. I'll look into that too.
@kurtremislettmyr7108
@kurtremislettmyr7108 2 жыл бұрын
The more weight on the cutting wheel, the easier it will be for the engine and chain, once it's up to speed.
@walterkersting9922
@walterkersting9922 Жыл бұрын
This content is fantastic!
@jonathancook4022
@jonathancook4022 2 жыл бұрын
Tim, you could change the wheel with the blades on it into a flywheel by making it really really heavy and thus that would take the impact force of the chain
@shanewilson3653
@shanewilson3653 2 жыл бұрын
Arm chair pirate mode engage. For lopping wood you want a shear line and a single grind for the cutting edge. There are some great comments in this thread including the one for hard facing the cutting edge. To explain a bit further : -think scissors, loppers, hedge trimmers comb, guillotines, and harvesting heads. these things are shear line cutting edges and all chop with a cutting angle that is only on one side of the blade, they load a high compression force mostly on one side of the blade biasing friction to one side of the cut. for pruning they are bypass shears Compare that with: -Knives, axes, swords, wire cutters and bolt cutters have dual cutting angles ground on both sides of the cutting edge. they have equal forces expressed on both sides of the cut unless the blade angle is controlled to compensate for it. for pruning these are anvil shears There is also a advantage that can be had in cutting tip relief this is where you thin the blade by about %10 behind the widest part of you grind, this will make the blade a single direction tool and reversing out of a cut will be three times harder with regrinding also being limited as material will thin out quicker but it will reduce cutting friction. Its usualy never used on hand operated gear but on machine cutting edges it will be used to reduce friction when dragging the blade through the material. One last note is that when you have a wide "narrow" gape for the blade there is a compression effect when cutting the branch, this can be mitigated by the user preloading pressure to bend the cut open and reduce friction. this would also be reduced with a single backing plate and single edge cutter as long as you have a guide to keep the blade from flexing. all in all though I think this project is awesome and regardless of what direction it heads in I'm sure it will be functional and great.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Shane. But I agree that a shearing action would work, but it would be hard to set it up accurately in this case. The gap that the blade goes through would have more of a pinching effect if it was wider - so I think this will work. And there will be no leverage on the operator - unlike the shear-cutters..
@eckosters
@eckosters 2 жыл бұрын
Love it. Just filling your KZbin comment section here
@slokestope3769
@slokestope3769 2 жыл бұрын
This one looks extra dangerous, I love it
@nickcurrier1693
@nickcurrier1693 2 жыл бұрын
you guys are great fun to watch
@rjacks2616
@rjacks2616 2 жыл бұрын
Try running a weld down the length of the blade and sharpen that to get a hardened edge
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I will try that first
@cprgreaves
@cprgreaves 2 жыл бұрын
Before my parents tossed out my Meccano set, I fell in love with worm gears; my cranes could lift ANYthing if I had a worm gear, Worm gears they take longer, but time is what we have for free. So why not work out how to have a twelve-inch diameter worm gear just shred away at a log, from the side or from the end of the limb. You'd end up with shredded wood, which should dry faster than your cops, and probably burn better too At the other end of the system, use worm gears to do wonderful things converting the energy from your engine into a slow-speed high-torque energy source? It seems to me that you have not yet (a) made use of worm gears or (b) made a worm gear. What is holding you back (Evil Grin!) Chris
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Worm gears, eh?!
@cprgreaves
@cprgreaves 2 жыл бұрын
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 Yes. I figure it is time for a simple windmill that, geared right down with levels of worm-gear reduction, should be able to drive a large worm-gear in contact with a log, and patiently shred that log 24/7. You must have wind there, because you keep telling us that you have lots of rain, and moist air, once it has shed its moisture, moves out of the way for more moist air, which is called "wind", down our way. What do you care if the system gnaws though only a foot or so a day; you have lots of days, right? Cheers Chris
@DisVietVetUSA
@DisVietVetUSA 2 жыл бұрын
Laways wear I protection at all times when working with metal
@StreetMachine18
@StreetMachine18 2 жыл бұрын
wow! love this build video! great job!
@davidwillard7334
@davidwillard7334 2 жыл бұрын
ITS !! ABSOLUTELY ! AMAZING ! THAT ! WE !ALL !HAVE !! A ! LAZY !! PLASMA ! CUTTER !! LYING ! AROUND !! IN !! OUR !! BARN !! YARDS !! HEY !!!
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm very lucky. But you should see what sort of car I drive..
@Engineer9736
@Engineer9736 2 жыл бұрын
Plasma cutters are only like 150$....
@Rospandan
@Rospandan 2 жыл бұрын
you make some scary looking machines tim!
@krisraps
@krisraps 2 жыл бұрын
I Totally LOVE THat You Are Showing All Your Fails And How You Work With Them, Other People Just Show The Finished Result And The Work When ONLY It Goes The Way THEY Want, TOTALLY THUMBS UP For That , SUBSCRIBED ! :)
@NicoSmets
@NicoSmets 2 жыл бұрын
great stuff!
@millomweb
@millomweb 2 жыл бұрын
You have 2 blades on the chomper. Could you try just one blade extending 360° round the wheel and put saw teeth on it - so it'd then be a saw !
@thomaslevy2119
@thomaslevy2119 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps adding cutting teeth to the blades would make them slice through the branches more efficiently?
@recklessroges
@recklessroges 2 жыл бұрын
Videos as and when. Family farming firmly comes first.
@chrislee7817
@chrislee7817 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Tim. Could you use some of your charcoal to carburise the blades on your spinning chomper? Would be an interesting video too.
@jonathan1427
@jonathan1427 2 жыл бұрын
You can only sort of case harden mild steel. I think hard facing is a better option for blades.
@chrislee7817
@chrislee7817 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathan1427 think Japanese sorts are made that way and they are quite sharp.
@jonathan1427
@jonathan1427 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrislee7817 Right, but a log chomper shouldn't really be sharp like a fine knife, but tough like an axe, no?
@Piterdeveirs333
@Piterdeveirs333 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, you are doing great
@reactiontoeffectiveenemyfire
@reactiontoeffectiveenemyfire 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff
@ooslum
@ooslum 2 жыл бұрын
Again Tim I know nothing but if the blade was the complete semicircle or a single blade for the entire wheel the angle of attack would be far less, like going up a shallow hill v steep mountain. It would then exert far more force and this is the easiest bit for you to change.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
It's true, but I was hoping I could fit a third one in to cut faster. We'll see.
@johntraynor8777
@johntraynor8777 2 жыл бұрын
Tim your great love your vids
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