on the bright side , you have perfected a classic bolt shearer.
@B.Cote392 жыл бұрын
😅failure is part of the engineering process !love it
@davidquirk80972 жыл бұрын
Lovely to see all the different pieces coming together, the engine, the shed, the chomper and the railway.
@Brandlin2 жыл бұрын
A shear pin is generally weaker than a shaft key, because they have less bearing surface at the point of max shear. The benefit of the pin is that it fails-to-safe in this condition. If it’s overloaded the lines shears but the shaft continues rotating thus releasing any load. A key way is far more likely to chew up your shaft and jam without releasing the energy.
@RubyRhod2 жыл бұрын
Also a hole through the shaft like this weakens the shaft quite a bit. I would have guessed the shaft would finally fail with the 12mm bolt. Also the pressure is incredibly high with shear bolts. Usually shafts and hubs are hardened when using shear bolts. I guess the shaft and hub will finally deform in a way that you won't be able to remove the hub anymore.
@ionstorm662 жыл бұрын
@@RubyRhod Correct, ive always seen unharded shear bolts in hardened shafts/hubs.
@ronblack78702 жыл бұрын
correct about the key.an alternative is to get a high speed steel lathe tool bit of the same square size as key. that will not shear .
@CM-xr9oq2 жыл бұрын
@@ronblack7870 Tool steel is hard, but brittle.
@serge9332 жыл бұрын
You should watch his previous video, it shows how much damage occurred from a shaft key on this machine
@CairnOfDunnCroftPermaculture2 жыл бұрын
Always fun seeing what people use fish crates for. My whole tree nursery runs on them!
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff62992 жыл бұрын
Part of nature's rich bounty : - )
@donaldasayers2 жыл бұрын
My wife works at a pond plant nursery which has hundreds of them.
@DisVietVetUSA2 жыл бұрын
Now when you going to paint the whole thing Limerick Green which is a fine color for a machine like this, way ho Tim you got a marvelous chippy chopper there!
@sebbes3332 жыл бұрын
*@Way Out West - Workshop Stuff* 6:24 You can also make the blades longer, a full rotation around, that should put MUCH less stress on the shear pin, but obviously the cutting speed is halved as well. (also puts more force on the support structure, in a radial direction)
@Worldslayer8517 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@bryanhall90342 жыл бұрын
There is the spirit of Heath Robinson about the thing but the final successful operation is a real credit to your dedication and ingenuity. Very well done indeed.
@SeattlePioneer2 жыл бұрын
The chipper and the chomper are my two favorite of your projects. In part that's because they have such a spirit of frugality in their nature, aking it possible to use the limbs of a treet which are usually wasted. And second because they are by their nature so MANLY! The operator is obviously risking life and limb every time he uses either one. For that reason, I like the chipper best. The operator is obviously scared spitless when feeding that machine!
@DianeD8622 жыл бұрын
We love watching Tim Hope Sandra and Flora and Trudy are settled after their journey.Sending love and best wishes.Good luck 🍀
@Matthew-ju3nk2 жыл бұрын
That video was an all-around shear joy that had me welded to my seat! And the slicing commentary kept me bolt upright the whole time. It’s very enjoyable to experience such a clean-cut topic. ;-)
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff62992 жыл бұрын
Ha! Excellent : - )
@SimonHollandfilms2 жыл бұрын
good job mr Ed and mr Sheer
@darrellbedford48572 жыл бұрын
Glad you go the log chomper working as you want it. I enjoyed the process of building it, the problems you encountered and the methods of over coming. The next part of this build should be the making of safety cages for the blades and drive belts. I love the basic crude machinery that you come up with. As crude as the machinery you make is they seem to work as well if not better the store bought machinery. The best part of all this process is that since you built the equipment is you know how it was built and thus know how to repair it.
@LucasTheSleepyFool2 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy you got it! You didn’t give up and you succeeded! Great job
@bilgeratjim2 жыл бұрын
Clean and polish your blades for less resistance. Grind the bevel on one side only.
@dewexdewex2 жыл бұрын
And harden the cutting edges.
@doctortomato95202 жыл бұрын
@@dewexdewex how would you goo about doing that? my guess would be a heat treat but what would you do?
@contraband15432 жыл бұрын
@@doctortomato9520 Use a torch on the edge and quench it by hand. Super complicated I know
@doctortomato95202 жыл бұрын
@@contraband1543 do you have to worry about cracking?
@SeattlePioneer2 жыл бұрын
You know darn well that if the last bolt had failed too, you wouldn't have given up! You can't fool us,
@dwarftoad2 жыл бұрын
I see you've got a nice elevated railway section now too!
@guillermoeltravieso2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations. Trial and error is the best way to reach the goal, while enjoying yourself at the same time. Greetings from Oviedo.
@mathildecassagne8582 жыл бұрын
Lovely machine ! I'm happy to have helped you Tim !! See you. Mathilde
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff62992 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Mathilde. I hope we do see you again : - )
@tropifiori2 жыл бұрын
An idea. Sort out the biggest diameter branch that you can cut without breaking shear pin. Make a hole in a piece of plate 15% or so smaller in diameter than that critically sized branch. Tack the plate up where you feed the branches in. Anything that doesn’t fit in the hole gets tossed aside and batch cut once a day with a chainsaw. It probably won’t be that many pieces and it will be easier on the equipment. Also, the plate would probably work partly as a guard. Best wishes Frank
@davidschwartz51272 жыл бұрын
How does the saw off nibs of limbs fit thru the hole
@CM-xr9oq2 жыл бұрын
it doesn't even need a shear pin. It's belt drive.
@davidschwartz51272 жыл бұрын
@@CM-xr9oq Then why isn't the slipping?
@jttnc Жыл бұрын
Good idea, but I think there would be some inconsistency with wood types and how green it is
@paulholden71542 жыл бұрын
Have been following your channel for a while and always enjoyed watching your ingenious methods of achieving your aims, especially the field railway. Love the log chomper, however to make sure that it never becomes an arm chomper, please make a guard for the front and back, it makes me wince every time I see you chomping the branches
@robertbragg9364 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if you're all geniuses or what, but that set of train tracks you made is absolutely amazing! I don't think you encounter problems only solutions you haven't come up with yet. Great job 👏🏽 👍🏽 👌 🙌
@TgWags692 жыл бұрын
Love the trestle. Hope there's a video coming up on that?
@aubreywilliams61532 жыл бұрын
I love your total disregard of any safety issues and your life and limbs. Look forward to seeing if you survive to do another video 👍
@johncourtneidge2 жыл бұрын
Hurrah! Congratulation on your shared persistence! Nice raised rail section!
@robleary3353 Жыл бұрын
Love it!. Here in Australia we call that 'bush mechanics' making functional stuff from odd and sods!. 🙂 Nice one!. Niff said.
@samvalentine32062 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the update, Tim! Keep up the unflagging spirit of "can do"!
@bsimpson62042 жыл бұрын
I love this show, one of the best on KZbin
@frederickmoller2 жыл бұрын
Great! Tim, Will, and your helpers, it's great to see it finally operating as intended!
@tWIST1up Жыл бұрын
now that the system is complete and able to be put into the production rotation I think it is time to do a through job of housecleaning in and around the area of operation. A tidy work site is a safe work site ... From start to finish I have greatly enjoyed watching the evolution of this project, and your ingenuity at solving each problem as they presented themselves ... I Rate this Project with 2 Big'ol thumbs up and 2 high fives. One each for you and Will ... and on a scale of 1 / 10? .. how could it be anything BUT a 10 :)
@athena14912 жыл бұрын
This device always makes me so nervous, I really hope you put a full guard on it just for safety, i'd hate to hear about anyone getting hurt or worse. Having a sloped chute at the output would help with loading things, and you could have it so the log touches the ceiling of it at the desired length. Just push the branch in, it stops and chops at the perfect length, then falls neatly down into the bin
@RobinCernyMitSuffix2 жыл бұрын
This machine predates safety.
@weird10122 жыл бұрын
I think it may be possible to slap a limiter at one end so you could constantly push in the log and hit the end, stopping it and saving more time. And maybe a platform at the other so you can simply lay the log on and not hold its weight
@roseroserose5882 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing - a table on the input side to support the branch and allow you to easily push it through I think could be a big improvement
@kameljoe212 жыл бұрын
@@roseroserose588 I think it will come in due time. I am sure that he will build some sort of feed table and out put table.
@davidhauge57062 жыл бұрын
Same idea except the infeed table a smooth conveyer so it would be self feeding.
@joethompson112 жыл бұрын
That new bit of railway looks cool too, nice to have it a bit higher up there! Love the progress :)
@chadgdry39382 жыл бұрын
7:00 I love that you put in a rail system
@JasonCarmichael2 жыл бұрын
Your wood shortener turned out to be an excellent bolt shortener also.
@SeattlePioneer2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite videos, and favorite projects!
@AlphaDogChoppers Жыл бұрын
I love how you’ve given an antique engine an actual job to do. Too many people with antique engines just run them with no useful purpose. Next you need to build a chute to catch the pieces of wood and direct them into a bin to reduce the amount of bending down to pick them up. I would also make a ramp so that the bin of wood does not need to be lifted up so high to get it on the rail car.
@Robertsshed2 жыл бұрын
The crunching sound of the wood being snapped is so satisfying.
@AlbertFilice2 жыл бұрын
Sooooo satisfying watching is just cleanly and slowly move through those bigger branches. It must be even better in person! Cheers and keep up the amazing, and quite entertaining, work!
@8HumblePie2 жыл бұрын
Living the dream! especially so, with all this love of labor and creations WoW!
@Rens2432 жыл бұрын
That's one mean machine. Marvelous job!
@sebbes3332 жыл бұрын
*@Way Out West - Workshop Stuff* 1:50 I would add a shelf at the height of the chomper support, at least on one side (far side?) of the chomper, so you don't have to hold a piece & can get your hands at a safe distance, especially if a log seams dangerous (eg. is short, or twisted, or had many branches etc.), but then it's better to cut it manually anyway. 8:05 Maybe add a chute instead?
@russellsmith86092 жыл бұрын
Looks like it works the champ. Now you'll need a short conveyor to load the rail cars. Looking forward to seeing that.
@Lou1ouze2 жыл бұрын
Hello Tim, fantastic work. Congratulation for your patience. It seems so useful ! I tend not to use all these branches size when doing firewood. But it's a lot free heat wasted really. I would also like to send you a bit of love you deserve. All those depressing comments are not helping and rude for nothing. The bloody thing works ! I didn't know there was that many viewers engineers. You nailed the r&d process and props for showing it. I guess people never experiment and fail. I'm still amazed by all the various things you acheived with success. Cheers from Brittany :)
@RCAFpolarexpress2 жыл бұрын
OUTSTANDING SIR 👍👌😇 Hand guard and a slide on the opposite side to make the cutted wood going way from the cutting place 👌👍😇🍻
@tomtruesdale69012 жыл бұрын
Great job on the chomper, bet it works a treat for a long time coming
@danishtttestudios93652 жыл бұрын
3 bolts wasted, but the last one works, good to hear one of the four works. It's almost like you got logs and wood for many years for a lot of things; like campfires, maybe even Christmas decorations and other stuff. Nice video.
@danielfearn60762 жыл бұрын
I think their end goal is charcoal mass production
@dougdobbs2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! Marvelous!
@eckosters2 жыл бұрын
better than a chain saw - that's when I finally understood why you're doing this. It still looks like make-work to me, but that's only because I'm clueless. And yet I adore these videos. Onwards!
@mischef182 жыл бұрын
Well Edd worked out well in the end bro. Safe travels
@leonclose78232 жыл бұрын
Really pleasing to see the whole system working!
@irishlad8797 Жыл бұрын
I love the trolley on the tracks I love the whole video 😎
@totherarf2 жыл бұрын
I love it when a plan comes together!
@kennethhacker3014 Жыл бұрын
They definitely thought this out..good for them.great presentation..good idea using a shear pin
@thedeloachsdoyoutube83772 жыл бұрын
Simply stunning Tim. Awesome job.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff62992 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@victoryfirst28782 жыл бұрын
Keep on making great things fella.
@stuartwoodcock97802 жыл бұрын
Hey! Youve raised the rails up. Very Nice
@nicolaiitchenko76102 жыл бұрын
Always fun and fascinating to watch your engaging and ever growing efforts in the development of this railway/tramway and the workings of a charcoal factory. I have learned more from watching the step by step processes of your place that I learned in all the years I worked at a narrow gauge railway museum. I have also had more fun watching and learning than I ever did at school. Love it! Would a weighted roller on an arm, lying on the top of the belt be a useful tensioner? If the arm is long enough it would possibly auto adjust tension to suit each log as it is being cut and the work gets either slightly more or less of a strain on the blades. Just an idea from a non engineer.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff62992 жыл бұрын
Interesting idea - thanks!
@rocket862 Жыл бұрын
You invented a bolt shearer! I am jealous of your Lister.
@bilbobaggins33892 жыл бұрын
that rail line is totally cool.👍👍👍👍
@lowenjennings2 жыл бұрын
my god, man. if this isn't how we were meant to live, I don't know what is. good show!
@irishlad8797 Жыл бұрын
In agriculture machinery a shear pin is usually high tensile steel so that it shears clean and is easily replaceable but mild steel is usually harder to get out of the shaft class wood cutter just keep your hands well clear 😎
@tigersharkot2 жыл бұрын
I see you have beautiful names for your beautiful locomotives😂😂😂
@andrewreynolds49492 жыл бұрын
Neat! Glad to see such a fascinating (and dangerous) machine working!
@telletran25582 жыл бұрын
I love what you do so keep at it.
@thewunder-lusters96442 жыл бұрын
Wow! The industrial revolution has arrived! :) ... well done!
@slaplapdog2 жыл бұрын
Bravo! I had wondered why you were not building a buzz saw. I concluded it was due to the extra trouble that it would take to create and maintain the blades. Sawdust being waste did not even occur to me! I would have thought it perfect for animal bedding, and compost.
@Clawhammer_2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you're thought of this, but it seems like you could use a chute or even a flat plate on the outfeed side of the chomper. Love seeing all these projects working together.
@benmail1282 жыл бұрын
Well that looks familiar. Glad you got it going!
@msquared63242 жыл бұрын
Seems what you have made is a log actuated bolt shear. Very effective!!
@michaelbenoit2482 жыл бұрын
Man U got a nice little railway goin from the blades of death, to the wood storage area. 3 sets of points, nice little junction/different areas to come from.
@MadScienceFPV2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a conveyor belt in-between the cut wood drop area and the cart that goes to the wood shed. Just a thought! Love the video, and I love how you use as much scrap and recycle to make these machines. It's a wonderful use of brain!
@custos32492 жыл бұрын
Good to see you putting suggestions to work, and still room for improvement if desired. Could add some angled plate to make a funnel/chute for the input side of the stationary jaws. That way, you won't have to pick up and reset the branch for at least most cuts - given the material can pass through the throat/cutting area. You should be able to just push, and as the blade shears then moves out of the way, you feed material in, and cut. No wasted movements or wear on your part.
@pvtimberfaller2 жыл бұрын
Thinking about it ( & somebody who knows how to calculate the moment arm/forces correctly please chine in) I thinnnnk the farther from the center of the shaft the less likely the shear bolt is to shear, IE: it is a balance of shear bolt strength vs moment arm. I would put the key back in, screw the taperlock down as tight as you can it, have a fixed plate on the shaft & a free to rotate plate with the blades. Drill a hole every 1/2” or so for 6-8” ( probably not in a straight line & it would be good if the plates were hard stuff like the blades) & starting close to the shaft you should be able to move the bolt position out until you find a workable balance. Cheers.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff62992 жыл бұрын
But how would you secure the plate to the shaft?
@pvtimberfaller2 жыл бұрын
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 Just a weld on taper lock hub & a key. If it were long enough the plate carrying the blades could rotate free on the same hub, just retained with a set collar or a welded on collar. There should be as little play between them as possible for the shear bolt to work properly & as others have stated crisp hard holes otherwise they will quickly get damaged.
@donaldstrishock39232 жыл бұрын
Just looks like a conversion of a LOT of time ,effort, machinery,and FUEL to get a measly amount of INEFFICIENT fire-wood. Thanks for the entertainment.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff62992 жыл бұрын
Not sure what inefficient fire wood is, Donald! We're processing all sizes that come from a tree - from planks to twigs. This is just one of the stages
@donaldstrishock39232 жыл бұрын
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 Keep up the good work on the planks ,timbers & framing lumber. Fire-wood prossesing has ALWAYS been cost preventive for me,--- WAY TOO much handling for the BTUs.
@RingingResonance2 жыл бұрын
As long as the bolt is always weaker than the shaft is it should work. Otherwise, if you drill too big of a hole, the shaft will have too much metal removed and will become weaker than the bolt.
@jannejohansson33832 жыл бұрын
Even 2 bolt different sides and 90 degrees in rotation. This thing show how good original cut and wedge worked. In bolt there is so little material need to cut when it jams so ofc 8mm bolts go like spaghetti in machine like that.
@HandfulOfTranquility2 жыл бұрын
I need one of these in my life. I currently use a cordless circular saw for cutting limb wood to make charcoal with. One of these hooked to my tractor pto would be great
@ronanbirch2 жыл бұрын
10 minutes later I'm still laughing at the Ed Sheeran joke 🤣
@vladabocanek37032 жыл бұрын
Hello from Czech republic! I've got one suggestion. thoose two "L" profiles against knifes should have som angles, wide enought, to prevent miss of bent knives and to guid them back to straight line.
@Wordsnwood2 жыл бұрын
terrifying machine...
@sebbes3332 жыл бұрын
*@Way Out West - Workshop Stuff* 1:50 Maybe flare out the chompers "support blades" (static, not rotating), so even IF a log makes the rotating blades become off-center, then this "flare" can maybe correct it, or at least you will hear a scraping sound instead of a *metal ripping apart*-sound, and know something is wrong & can shut it down.
@donalfinn42052 жыл бұрын
Fiendish but fabulous!👍☘️
@Santafefrank2 жыл бұрын
Alright it works very good . Thanks
@aholesahole2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful, love it!
@davidsamways8 ай бұрын
What an absolutely terrifying machine!😀
@appalachianridgerunners65714 ай бұрын
Love your Channels. I was thinking of another job that machine would be good at too. Charcoal grading Machine, turn it on its side and put it under a hopper. Put a lot of blades it, make it high enough to put your bag machine under it. Maybe make the hopper where you put everything together. So you wouldn’t have to handle the charcoal as much.
@ronpalmer7260 Жыл бұрын
Put a pivot on your shear plate with a heavy spring. That way, rather than snapping the bolt, the shear plate moves. It will snap back for the next blade that will finish the job. Also, part of the problem is the lack of mass on the spinning wheel. If you had a big heavy flywheel, its momentum would take some pressure off of the shear pin.
@lauraandedwardcannon88612 жыл бұрын
I love it all. Do post an update about your new railway causeway there.
@springwoodcottage42482 жыл бұрын
Maybe put your collection box on a tarpaulin to make it easier to gather wood that misses the box. I often use tarps when cutting branches held in an x-frame to ease collection of stuff that misses my barrow. Thanks for sharing!
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff62992 жыл бұрын
That sounds a bit sophisticated for me : - )
@HenrikLaurell2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the distance to the cutting center was the crucial part. Like a small cog wheel against a bigger makes it stronger. Great project to follow!
@Pef2732 жыл бұрын
While watching I was wondering if adding a flywheel and powering from the small pulley (instead of the large one) might give you the momentum to power through without breaking the shear pins. It would spin faster and have more weight in motion. Great job and thanks for sharing! 👍
@PatGilliland2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! When did you put in the raised railway bits? - That's genius.
@mrvegardeide2 жыл бұрын
Well lads, quite entrepreneurial and creative I must admit! Perhaps a few notches from being HES complaint I would assume? Great video!
@SimonAmazingClarke2 жыл бұрын
Fun project. Calculate the forces going through that bolt.
@jpsimon2062 жыл бұрын
I think that was very wise to bolt them in a sandwich instead of welding. The harrow discs are likely to be excellent steel, it would be ideal to avoid messing with the temper
@nimrodorczy83162 жыл бұрын
My man, you have built a wonderful machine, that helps the work, and I’m really impressed you pulled this off. But as great this chopper is, I beg you, please paint the parts, it hurts my eyes, and it takes minutes to get a well functioning machine beautiful too
@zaildarkuldeep8451 Жыл бұрын
Nice good job.
@jacobthompson1682 Жыл бұрын
That rail system is keen af.
@andrewchapman20242 жыл бұрын
I could be wrong, but it looks like you made updates to the tracks that you haven't made a video on. Congratulations on getting your machine to work.