Home Made Log Chomper Crashes And Burns!

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Way Out West - Workshop Stuff

Way Out West - Workshop Stuff

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This project has turned into something bigger and more complicated and frustrating than I’d thought. Fun too - and very interesting. Belt-driven log slicing machine powered by a single-cylinder vintage engine - that has to be a goal worth pursuing though, doesn’t it? Give us a dig out if you can - I need to get this thing up and running!
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@Nighthawkinlight
@Nighthawkinlight 2 жыл бұрын
Now that's an impressive failure! What a sturdy gearbox that must be. I think you could do with shorter blades so there isn't so much leverage reacting back on the shaft. Really I think you might consider a hydraulic ram, a simple wood splitter modified with a guillotine style shear on the end. That seems a more reasonable way to get the kind of force you're looking for with perhaps foot pedal actuation. I'm sure the gearbox wouldn't go to waste as you'd quickly find something else to do with it. This made for an excellent video in any case!
@cantsolvesudokus
@cantsolvesudokus 2 жыл бұрын
Yea I agree. If he could make it with half the outer diameter it might work tho. But the torque this thing has to deliver/withstand…
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
I agree about the blade length, Ben, but the ram might be frustratingly slow?
@OntarioTrafficMan
@OntarioTrafficMan 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, smaller diameter and also "slower" spiral (so it takes more shaft rotation to push a given distance into the wood). Should help reduce the forces on internal components and/or increase the possible force on the wood.
@jasonpatterson8091
@jasonpatterson8091 2 жыл бұрын
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 If you're wanting to make hundreds of small cuts like this, I think you're right. It's useful for splitting bigger logs into firewood but cutting very long lengths of relatively narrow stuff like this, less so. Though in fairness the travel would be fairly small, so the two factors (speed and travel) might balance out in the end.
@TechGorilla1987
@TechGorilla1987 Жыл бұрын
When i find you in the comments, I usually end up subscribing to the channel if I am not already.
@ratheskin58
@ratheskin58 2 жыл бұрын
That's the most frightening machine I've ever seen, fantastic!
@defcon1526
@defcon1526 2 жыл бұрын
I know, I was thinking the same thing. I was also thinking that we would get a video in the future from the wife saying there was an accident. Notice I said from the wife..... You know, It sucks the machine broke, but part of me is glad the machine died the way it did.
@millomweb
@millomweb 2 жыл бұрын
My dad's grasscutter beats that ! Like a flymo with no guards ! Much faster blade !
@friedtomatoes4946
@friedtomatoes4946 2 жыл бұрын
I've worked some pretty scary machines in my life and I'm not even 27 yet. This one's pretty dangerous and janky but I love it
@clayz1
@clayz1 2 жыл бұрын
This is downright friendly compared to some homemade log splitters you should really see.
@craigchristensen6082
@craigchristensen6082 2 жыл бұрын
One of my all-time favourite videos. It has an excavator, concrete being poured and a very large and sharp spinning blade. What could possibly go wrong. Just glad everyone is safe and look forward to the next installment.
@09conrado
@09conrado 2 жыл бұрын
Great project Tim! Perhaps you could guide the whole blade within a circular guard casing around the tip of the blade. I feel that a flat bed for resting the branches on could help in shoving them forward. A guard around most of the blades could help you with 19th century safety (and one for the engine shaft too!)
@Craggius13
@Craggius13 2 жыл бұрын
Love this channel. That contraption looks like it could maim you 42 different ways. Stay safe out there and good luck with the railway!
@whotoinfinity
@whotoinfinity 2 жыл бұрын
"...tragic, interesting, and amusing." Yeah I'd have to agree with that one. Thanks so much for the smiles and even chuckles, in these trying times.
@ongridself-reliantfamily1751
@ongridself-reliantfamily1751 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps a shear pin or a brass key would help if you want to continue to use the gear reduction? That way it would fail in a safe and easy to fix kind of way.
@ratchet1freak
@ratchet1freak 2 жыл бұрын
some kind of torque limiter for sure, that's one of the saving graces of a slipping belt, it prevents the machine from tearing itself apart
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
my problem was the belt was just too tight, otherwise it would have just slipped
@ongridself-reliantfamily1751
@ongridself-reliantfamily1751 2 жыл бұрын
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 I see what you mean, but it seems like with the very large gear ratio in that gear box, you will have a hard time finding the sweet spot with belt tension where it transmits enough torque for larger logs, but slips well when stalled out. Belt wear, stretch, and glazing are going to be constantly changing the correct tension to balance safety slippage and good working power. A shear pin should have a specified strength that could be calculated into an appropriate torque limit. I do see how a shear pin makes the design more complex, but it seems like this scenario might justify the extra time and effort. Fun project all around. I look forward to seeing how you solve the issues!
@AtlasReburdened
@AtlasReburdened 2 жыл бұрын
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 They're correct. On general principles, one should always reject "I'll get it right next time" as an adequate failsafe being implemented. At least not with anything over 1/4 horsepower. A true failsafe does something almost magical. It pins down the future. An uncompensated failure can happen infinite ways, and sometimes the machine takes people with it. An engineered failsafe eliminates those wretched and nearly unthinkable possible futures and pins the future down to one where you simply scowl at a machine and sigh at the ten minutes or so of extra work you now have to do.
@clayz1
@clayz1 2 жыл бұрын
Gear reduction, but it needs a bigger shaft. Thank god I’m here to help.
@DianeD862
@DianeD862 2 жыл бұрын
Just what we love to watch .My husband love’s to what you are up to Tim .We haven’t had a good day lovely to unwind with you .Best regards we love Ireland as well.Happy St Patrick Day to you both.Good luck 🍀.🧚🧚☘️☘️☘️🍀🍀🍀🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry about your bad day! Hope things get better soon. x
@speckdratz
@speckdratz 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love seeing your whole process including the failures and improvements. You could just release 10 second videos titled ‘easy peasy’ but showing the whole journey is *so much* more valuable and real. Thank you!
@mulholla
@mulholla 2 жыл бұрын
Now that's a widdow maker! Well done. Keep your fingies out of it!
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Ok then : - )
@W0nd3r.84
@W0nd3r.84 2 жыл бұрын
Me seeing the notification to this video: "Let's go!" Me when i read the title: "Wait- what?!" There has been built a ballast truck, 5 wood trucks for wood, even a log chopper and a boiler, that's amazing.
@andrewreynolds4949
@andrewreynolds4949 2 жыл бұрын
He builds all sorts of interesting things that I could never manage with what I’ve got
@mattsan70
@mattsan70 2 жыл бұрын
I Hope this does not all end in tears
@TechGorilla1987
@TechGorilla1987 Жыл бұрын
@7:50 - I almost watched the later video when you rebuilt this, but I am glad I paused that one to come find this one. In my head, I pictured this thing wailing and gnashing away at a fevered pitch. Instead, I am pleased to see a contrivance of quiet, unrelenting power that is hypnotic to watch. I think I shall subscribe to your channel, sir. Well done.
@mjallenuk
@mjallenuk 2 жыл бұрын
An unexpected education comes from all angles ... or indeed revolutions. Thanks for the honest entertainment 😃
@eckosters
@eckosters 2 жыл бұрын
You have no idea how much I enjoy watching these videos - nevertheless that I don’t understand the first thing about it
@michaelodonnell8306
@michaelodonnell8306 2 жыл бұрын
Bandsaw frames like that are priceless around here. I'm happy for you that you found one. I'm grateful for your videos.
@samvalentine3206
@samvalentine3206 2 жыл бұрын
Very good, Tim! Never give up, never surrender! Perseverance!
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Onwards!
@sandravanderschaaf3853
@sandravanderschaaf3853 2 жыл бұрын
"Never fear!" he says, as I'm clenching my teeth through the whole video! Stay safe, Tim!
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I was feeling the same way too, Sandra : - )
@stevewilliams2498
@stevewilliams2498 2 жыл бұрын
Take care. That machine doesn't know the difference between arms and logs. A slip clutch or shear pin might be a good idea. An emergency stop for the engine ? Some farm machinery have spring loaded clutches. The PTO on a small old fashioned baler comes to mind. I think your place of cutting should be moved nearer the centre of the chomper. More cutting force and more overlap for the blades in the slot.
@millomweb
@millomweb 2 жыл бұрын
An emergency stop for the engine - LOL - that'd be one way of breaking it !
@athena1491
@athena1491 2 жыл бұрын
@@millomweb yep, probably would break it, but its better than cutting off your own arm and dying, so...
@gerry343
@gerry343 2 жыл бұрын
There's so much inertia in that engine that an emergency stop would do little to help.
@millomweb
@millomweb 2 жыл бұрын
@@gerry343 As I said, it'd break the engine.
@stevewilliams2498
@stevewilliams2498 2 жыл бұрын
@Gerry they didn't appear to have any means of stopping it. If they had cut the ignition when it was nearly stalled, it would have stopped quickly enough.
@donaldbarr8300
@donaldbarr8300 2 жыл бұрын
You'll figure it out, and make it work. I admire your tenacity, as well as your ingenuity!
@lumotroph
@lumotroph 2 жыл бұрын
Wowee! What a great illustration of the forces you were wondering about!
@bhami
@bhami 2 жыл бұрын
Two classes of things are clearly needed: 1. An obvious, safe, planned way for the machine to safely disengage when the inevitable un-choppable object is inserted. 2. A WHOLE BUNCH of safety guards! Think about all the different ways that human fingers, arms, etc., might encounter those blades, belts, shafts, and any other moving parts (or even sharp non-moving parts!).
@bhami
@bhami 2 жыл бұрын
An example of #1 would be the shear pin found in most rotary power mowers, which shear instead of the crankshaft shearing when you hit a rock, pipe, etc.
@jamesbizs
@jamesbizs 2 жыл бұрын
Meh
@Hebdomad7
@Hebdomad7 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at the whole set up, I think we are beyond safety at this point. Best sacrifice a few unwilling limbs a month to keep the machine spirt satisfied lest it start demanding heads.
@carcomp101
@carcomp101 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are a welcome diversion. I love that you just get an idea, and build it. Reminds me of how I used to think anything was possible when I was a child.
@CorPro
@CorPro 2 жыл бұрын
That was satisfying to see it chop through those willows like a hot knife through butter--until the end. :)
@nicolaiitchenko7610
@nicolaiitchenko7610 2 жыл бұрын
Always a fun adventure on this channel. Still my all time favorite tinkerer...(all we need now is a tailor, soldier and a spy) :)
@roseroserose588
@roseroserose588 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing how mangled it got really shows you how much power you had to work with, looks like it would've gone through a whole tree if you could fit it in! For your next iteration, and I'm sure you already worked it out after your experience, you may want to look into adding some sacrificial parts that will fail before something like that is able to happen 😱
@kameljoe21
@kameljoe21 2 жыл бұрын
yeah I was thinking that enclosing the hole blade in which will prevent the blade wobble and the worse that can happen is the blade will rub on the housing. This thing looks like it has the power to cut very large logs 6 inches or more. Reduction gears are really strong.
@chox2001
@chox2001 2 жыл бұрын
That’s why sheer pins were used on equipment that can stop suddenly. Maybe a fast acting hydraulic ram and a guillotine could be safer
@kameljoe21
@kameljoe21 2 жыл бұрын
@@chox2001 There are a few videos out there with ram guillotines and they have one major problem is that they are slow and they tend to crush the log rather than slice it, of the ones I have seen. which is why buzz saws were used for a very long time. My main video is myself using a buzz saw.
@chox2001
@chox2001 2 жыл бұрын
@@kameljoe21 thank you that’s interesting
@futurecaredesign
@futurecaredesign 2 жыл бұрын
@@chox2001 All hail the Sheer Pin. The engineers 'mechanical fuse'.
@futurecaredesign
@futurecaredesign 2 жыл бұрын
Great project! I always love videos like this where one analyses mistakes made so we can all learn. I am also glad to hear the gearbox is fine. Some stuff I have noticed from watching tons of these wood chunker videos online and attempting to build one for myself: - Blades that have only a single cut, tend to perform best. Chunkers like yours that have two cuts seem to put more pressure in a shorter span of time. Maybe try a single, spiral blade next? - Cuts made at a right angle to the wood are harder. Imagine chopping a tree by chopping ONLY at right angles. That's hard because it goes against the wood fibers. Try setting up the blade so that the wood will be cut at a diagonal across the wood. Really great progress though! This is such a beautiful setup you have there and I am completely convinced you will get there! Edit: and as others have mentioned some kind of mechanical fuse / sheer pin might be in order. I am planning to put one on my chunker as well. Shaft comes out the reducer, has a hole drilled into it. Over this shaft fits another, much bigger shaft with a hole in that one too. This last shaft connects to the blade. Then I'd place a tractor sheerpin into the two holes connecting the shafts. Should a similar situation happen again as in this video, you don't run the risk of ruining the gearbox.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, FD, but I spent a lot of time designing the blades so they do cut at a slope. Maybe more is needed though
@futurecaredesign
@futurecaredesign 2 жыл бұрын
​@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 I can agree with you that the slope/angle of the cut is not such a huge deal. You can see that when the gearbox was cutting clean through those massive pieces of willow! So keep that current setup if you don't want to change it. What seems to make the most sense in my mind is to change the cut from two blades to a single one. Your current setup has the blades sticking out quite a bit, this creates an extra leverage effect on the axle. The closer the cutting edge is to the axle, the least amount of leverage occurs... Also, if there is only one cut per rotation you halve the pressure on the axle again because it takes double the time to cut through the wood fibers. If I saw the output RPM on the gearbox towards the end, it is plenty fast enough for this to work like a charm. Here's an example of a great spiral blade IMO: kzbin.info8PGn0pbD1yc
@ooslum
@ooslum 2 жыл бұрын
It's like watching the industrial revolution Tim, make a tool to improve another tool, cheers.
@martinsto8190
@martinsto8190 2 жыл бұрын
there's the first impression right there Tim digger
@andydelarue9344
@andydelarue9344 2 жыл бұрын
It all one big test , big thanks for posting all your lessons
@NorthOfEarthAlex
@NorthOfEarthAlex 2 жыл бұрын
The blade really is too long, plus it's on a wide hub. You're cutting nearly half a meter from the point of rotation. You should be cutting as close to the axle as possible for maximum torque.
@snchilders
@snchilders 2 жыл бұрын
That's the spirit, never give up! (But stay safe, I don't fancy watching an amputation.)
@thewunder-lusters9644
@thewunder-lusters9644 2 жыл бұрын
As crashes-and-burns go, that was rather impressive! :)
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Ha - thank you : - )
@Yaboireese223
@Yaboireese223 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the updates at the beginning. Very nice concrete
@rusty911s2
@rusty911s2 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you run counter to ever increasing health and safety requirements. Seems that each project becomes more lethal than the last. I'm astonished at the diameters it could slice through though: the stresses must be enormous!
@ronaldmartin7892
@ronaldmartin7892 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps a new site address of 'Danger Man' might be in order. Exciting stuff. I admire your patience and persistence. Keep it up, Tim.
@CitizenAyellowblue
@CitizenAyellowblue 2 жыл бұрын
Bigger and stronger than before….. and safer too, I hope! Had me on the edge of my seat!!
@markirish7599
@markirish7599 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic ingenuity
@johncourtneidge
@johncourtneidge 2 жыл бұрын
Hurrah! Thank-you! From Littlehampton, West Sussex. Marvellous videos!
@Kineth1
@Kineth1 2 жыл бұрын
There was a distinct lack of burning in this video. I came here for a disaster! Really satisfying to see the blade just slowly slice straight through those branches.
@leifhietala8074
@leifhietala8074 2 жыл бұрын
I think what you need isn't knife blades, but a saw blade. Shape it with an expanding radius like your knives, but allow it to take only one bite per revolution. Shape the teeth with deep gullets so they have room to hold all the chips generated by the tooth's passage through the log until they get clear, with alternating peaks on the teeth to reduce the load on each. That is one hell of a gearbox.
@tiitsaul9036
@tiitsaul9036 2 жыл бұрын
Very exciting as usual. Two ideas: 1* blades should be attached to flywheel, to reduce load to gearbox, shaft and frame. Due low speed, the flywheel needs to be very heavy of course. Perhaps a truck flywheel/clutch assembly would work. Could use the clutch to disengage the blades too. 2* cutting disk could be coupled to shaft via impact driver style clutch. You know the spring loaded spiral thingy. It would prevent excessive loads to components when blade gets stuck and would hammer through the bigger branches.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
hmmm, I wonder where I'd get one of those?
@meredithmuller5543
@meredithmuller5543 2 жыл бұрын
I just caught up Tim! I like how you bring so many friends into your work. The best part was when it was time for tea with Tim and Will.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
It's my go-to reaction to most things : - )
@timeflysintheshop
@timeflysintheshop 2 жыл бұрын
I see many others saying to cut closer to the shaft for better leverage, but I also suggest that the blade be designed such that it begins to slice the logs at a more oblique angle. It will start the cut easier and once the cut starts, it is easier for it to keep going. Good luck! 👍😉
@arnearne12345
@arnearne12345 2 жыл бұрын
jesus these forces are astronomical! but it's fantastic that you made it work that well even if there was a lot of trial and error
@stuartwoodcock9780
@stuartwoodcock9780 2 жыл бұрын
You blokes are great. Such great self reliance
@SpaceSmurf3000
@SpaceSmurf3000 2 жыл бұрын
one man's quest to build the most dangerous machine in all of Ireland
@rodneyholland1867
@rodneyholland1867 2 жыл бұрын
When it was working it was soooo satisfying to watch.
@MorseB
@MorseB 2 жыл бұрын
You might consider a single shear pin in the system. Perhaps holding a drive plate attached to the gearbox, to a blade plate attached to the blades. You can make your own shear pins by grinding a bit of a notch in a bolt where the two plates would slip if the bolt was not installed. On my brush hog, the shear pin is a single grade 8 bolt, but that's a bit unusual usage of a bolt, normally they are special bolts designed specifically as shear pins. It does however do a great job of snapping off when I mow over a stump or something big. Lots of stuff about shear pins online regarding snow blowers, including lots of home made shear pins from bolts etc, so it should be easy to research if you go this direction.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Nope - yes, that all makes sense
@hughezzell10000
@hughezzell10000 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to build one of these. I've dreamed of having one of these all my life!
@MakarovFox
@MakarovFox 2 жыл бұрын
the power of the engine is amazing
@nitt3rz
@nitt3rz 2 жыл бұрын
What an incredibly strong & capable machine you've built, it definatley had an impressive break.
@spencerbass7142
@spencerbass7142 2 жыл бұрын
Very entertaining. It is potentially a winner, just a few more hurdles.
@accessfm
@accessfm 2 жыл бұрын
Great machine. Think you may need to "up" your liability insurance though! 😄
@nathanlucas6465
@nathanlucas6465 2 жыл бұрын
It makes a really satisfying chomping noise!
@feynthefallen
@feynthefallen 2 жыл бұрын
Classic illustration of the old saw "There's a reason we have engineers"
@scottmcdivitt2187
@scottmcdivitt2187 2 жыл бұрын
When making it again, consider a hard brass or soft steel for the key. It's an easy part to replace, and you want it to fail first.
@pvtimberfaller
@pvtimberfaller 2 жыл бұрын
A 1/4” grade 8 bolt on the plate, you don’t want it spinning on the gearbox shaft, it will ruin it very quickly.
@jimydee
@jimydee 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Thank u. Best of luck with Mark 2.
@totherarf
@totherarf 2 жыл бұрын
Well the beast has shown it's strength! If you want to reduce the stress in it you could move the point where the blade meets the log closer to the centre of rotation. This would allow smaller blades if you want too. Everything else you could do would add complications to the machine. Have you considered using a different blade type? I have seen some impressive results from a car wheel rim cut to form a blade with the cutting edge in line with the rotation and would not be susceptible to bending! Whatever you do, it is a fascinating experience seeing and hearing you talk about it! Please do not stop!
@SimonHollandfilms
@SimonHollandfilms 2 жыл бұрын
interesting... the forces must be very large....good project
@jpsimon206
@jpsimon206 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! 84 to 1, that's quite a special gearbox. It would be one hell of a start on making a dividing head
@terrynoraturner1848
@terrynoraturner1848 2 жыл бұрын
If you cut closer to the shaft mechanical advantage would be on your side and the blade would be in the slot and less chance of twisting or bending. A shear pin on the blade will let the blade flop back. A greater angle will cut slower and be an advantage.
@Mrsstick07
@Mrsstick07 2 жыл бұрын
Yet another brilliant video, thank you. 😊
@MattBrownbill
@MattBrownbill 2 жыл бұрын
Great determination, as always!
@pvtimberfaller
@pvtimberfaller 2 жыл бұрын
A flat belt would work better than a V belt, they slip/clutch better than V belts. Thinking about it you really need a jackshaft with fixed and loose pulleys & a shifting fork, that would be the only real safe/effective way to run such a setup. I can research it if you like but I think they can both be flat, not crowned. Your buddy with the lathe can crown them if not. A disc brake would be a good idea as well. Keep an eye out for crowned pulleys at flea markets/rummage sales, there are lots of the out there. Cheers.
@napoleonnz
@napoleonnz 2 жыл бұрын
My two pence worth, your problem issue is the blade design. The blades need to be able to swivel so that centrifugal force holds them out. In this way, they chomp at the log until they work through it. Then the shear pin issue disappears. You also need it to run it about 1.5 times faster for greater shear power.
@ptonpc
@ptonpc 2 жыл бұрын
That was amazing and terrifying all at the same time.
@JulianMakes
@JulianMakes 2 жыл бұрын
Quite a lot of your blade cannot be used as it is behind the log support. If you reshaped the curve of the blade you can get more ‘slice’ over the arc and therefore cut with less difficulty. Fun video thanks!
@rsholdal
@rsholdal 2 жыл бұрын
Your doin great work out there. That's is a terrifying machine. Guess the next step is a blade guide maybe somthing semi circular
@andrewreynolds4949
@andrewreynolds4949 2 жыл бұрын
Very good! The next is sure to be better
@benjo233223
@benjo233223 2 жыл бұрын
You're using about 30 degrees of rotation per cut, make a blade that takes 180 degrees to cut, spread the load/work over more time and move them towards the centre like other people have said
@neffk
@neffk 2 жыл бұрын
Judging from the sparks off that key, it was high carbon steel---probably was fairly hard, judging from the damage. See if you can get something softer. McMaster (in the US) sells machine keys that are Rockwell B 50 or 100. The B scale is so soft it is tested with a ball bearing, not a diamond point.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
interesting!
@vintagestuffguy1998
@vintagestuffguy1998 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic outro monologue there
@msquared6324
@msquared6324 2 жыл бұрын
Every time that blade makes a turn my inner safety officer has a heart attack
@kmcwhq
@kmcwhq 2 жыл бұрын
The two pieces of angle iron that the blade runs between can be arranged even closer and in such a way that they prevent the blades from bending sideways. Should do the trick. Then it's on to the next failure point.
@paddrivers
@paddrivers 2 жыл бұрын
A Victorian "maiming machine " Love it!
@Darwinpasta
@Darwinpasta 2 жыл бұрын
Might be worth extending your angle iron wood rest up some and splaying it at the top, so if the blade wanders for any reason, the guide brings it back into place instead of letting it get caught up like that. Seeing how wonky the blade hub was afterwards makes me wonder if the hub wasn't starting to give before the failure, which was why the blade got out of alignment in the first place.
@jasonburguess
@jasonburguess 2 жыл бұрын
Have you considered using an old car wheel rim as your cutter, ive seen this work before, you sharpen the edge of the wheel in a decreasing radius, and you could use a wheel hub with lugnuts for attaching it to the gear box, it woukd be a stronger connection and the curve you cut into the rim can act like a curved knife to cut the logs. Search youtube for an example, there are lots of videos where this method is used, hope that helps. Love your channel and videos, and i hope you have a wonderful day!
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jason - I chose this design because the frame could be easier
@AlbertFilice
@AlbertFilice 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video Tim! I think others have said the same, but if you use shorter blades, or put the log closer so it uses more of the blade to slide perhaps, combined with a blade slot that engages at the tip of the blade for the entire cutting stroke. Super fun to watch you and your experiments, keep it up!
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Albert - will do!
@donalfinn4205
@donalfinn4205 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and entertaining too!👍☘️
@mebymyself2816
@mebymyself2816 2 жыл бұрын
Have a look at some of the Yanky You Tube log chompers and you will see that they use a wheel with the rim cut into a cam shape and sharpened all the way round, which give continuous progressive cutting with the log being fed in on a slightly slanted flat plate so after a cut the log is slid down to a stop for the length required and the cutting action begins.
@bendordoy4815
@bendordoy4815 2 жыл бұрын
I love watching your vedios and can't wait to see more railway and more steam progress vedio.
@ronbach6453
@ronbach6453 2 жыл бұрын
In Engineering we have a saying "Failure is NOT an option! It's a topic," We design in places where 'Low Cost easily replace' parts blow up before sometihing dangerous/expensive breaks.
@jimbos3421
@jimbos3421 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that’s called “testing to destruction!”
@angusrobb6682
@angusrobb6682 2 жыл бұрын
good one tim - great vid mate
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Angus!
@AtlasReburdened
@AtlasReburdened 2 жыл бұрын
I think the only safe assumption is that the gearbox will fail later, but prematurely due to internal wear. It's just very hard to believe that it could shear the keyway without putting some degree of twist in the shaft. I can only assume that when under load it's going to waste more energy to higher friction than previously. Probably not a deal breaker because it's not running a grain elevator 24/7 or anything like that, but I'd still just keep my eyes open for a similar one drifting about.
@stevenmusante4681
@stevenmusante4681 2 жыл бұрын
What a shame. I look forward to the next revision!
@yenoh243
@yenoh243 2 жыл бұрын
Old square baler gearboxes are pretty sturdy.
@NANDOFFDataRecovery
@NANDOFFDataRecovery 2 жыл бұрын
Great video.. Thanks for sharing
@redlily8101
@redlily8101 2 жыл бұрын
But you are able to laugh about it... love you guys
@arthurbrunner2730
@arthurbrunner2730 2 жыл бұрын
Hey tim loving the videos recently! really building up the anticipation for a steam engine!keep it up
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Arthur - just wish there was more time..
@arthurbrunner2730
@arthurbrunner2730 2 жыл бұрын
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 don’t we all
@Huckleberry.69
@Huckleberry.69 2 жыл бұрын
That chomper has all the hallmarks of a limb remover, take extra care when using!
@tomtruesdale6901
@tomtruesdale6901 2 жыл бұрын
Very impressive machine you have there. Like other have said maybe a softer key or shear pin to let the blade stop if it jams again.
@Kittyintheraiyn
@Kittyintheraiyn 2 жыл бұрын
I know it's a work in progress, but maybe a table, or something of a guide for the logs and branches going into the chop area might stabilize the wood, at least on the feeding in side, both sides to be safer? I feel like the way that they are free falling adds a bit too much chaos to the whole contraption. Also maybe some guards around the blade. The guide in the front is good, but something a bit larger might keep the blades from twisting to the sides. I hope. Stay safe!
@andrewreynolds4949
@andrewreynolds4949 2 жыл бұрын
Letting the pieces drop like that does keep them from getting jammed in the blade. Safer for keeping the machine from breaking but not as safe for hands
@matthewnasci2646
@matthewnasci2646 2 жыл бұрын
If I may suggest, (For reference, viewed from the end of the shaft, rotation is clockwise.) I see that the cutting edges are nearly at a 180 degree plane to the drive shaft rather than at a very sharp angle. If arranged as such it would slice the wood rather than chop it. If the blade engages the wood closer to the shaft, the resistance has less leverage to impede the travel. Liken this concept to choking up on a baseball bat or a hammer. That may reduce the force needed from the drive train to pass the knife through the wood. I believe much efficiency would be gained and it may help your belt slippage problem.
@09conrado
@09conrado 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent point! The other versions I've seen progressively slide through the branch. I've even seen a car wheel rim notched so that it gradually widens used as a cutter
@eternaloptimist2840
@eternaloptimist2840 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that better blade shape is Important in making a more progressive cut - at the moment the torque is going high very quickly for not very long, a better blade shape will apply torque for a larger part of each cycle and reduce the shock loading on the drive train.
@ggulina7116
@ggulina7116 2 жыл бұрын
O boy! it was exciting!
@SnowingNapalm
@SnowingNapalm 2 жыл бұрын
hence why engineers include specific failure points to protect the expensive stuff while replacing a cheap stuff becomes barely a hassle
@robertboykin1828
@robertboykin1828 2 жыл бұрын
This is how the Panama Canal was built. They admitted that they did not know to do it, so they said " do something, and correct the mistakes."
@tWIST1up
@tWIST1up 2 жыл бұрын
instead of brut force us overwhelming force. Increasing your RPM will increase potential kinetic energy, thus over coming resistance. This will also decrease the blades desire to twist or deflect while under load ... It sure looks awesome thou, in a Mad Max kinda way.... I like it :)
@emehlhar
@emehlhar 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my God. That rotary guillotine gives me nightmares. No safety shut off, no safety shield, no emergency stop. Just one slide away from a deadly slip up. Lucky it killed itself first.
@kameljoe21
@kameljoe21 2 жыл бұрын
Safety things are there to give you a false sense of security. If you pay attention to what you are doing then you should be fine.
@emehlhar
@emehlhar 2 жыл бұрын
@@kameljoe21 until someone slips on a patch of mud or ice and falls head first into it.
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