Home RenoVision DIY's Fence Doesn't Even Make Sense!

[@Lying992]

Just finished our fence. About 250ft total perimeter. Took about 2 1/2 months of working on it on the weekends. I took my time and tried to do the best i could the whole time. It turned out pretty good. I would never do it again, and i now have a new respect for guys that build fences everyday. The fact that they can get it to look so good and are so efficeint. It is a lot of work.

[@aaronherman3489]

Same bro except I would try it again because now I now all the shit not to do 😭 #respect

[@Scratch-That91]

I love the stain part where the guy uses the newly stained fence to support himself. Staining his hand

[@woodworkerroyer8497]

Every time I watch his videos, I think of Red Green. I think this is Red Green's nephew, and he's trying to look like a pro.

[@Mr__V]

Loved that show. Here.. I think Jeff is just the general contractor. He isn't a fence pro, but he def is the guy at Lowe's that is like "yup I can get'er done for 100 bucks."

[@kenschmidt6522]

Yep. I was waiting for him to get out the duct tape.

[@brianheaton5521]

The look on your face through the whole video is priceless. Love it.

[@jericlocke1]

I knew an installer when I first started as a teen. His name was Joe and he was an alcoholic still drinking at the time. I was happy arriving alive at the jobsite and making it back to the shop at the end of the day. This is almost like a day being Joe's helper. It brings back memories. I had forgotten those days.

[@str8kronic]

I literally just watched this guy's video because I need a new fence..and i was very ready to use his method (although, I hated the "step down" pickets, I wouldhe changed changed that)..but thank God your video popped up in my recommendations

[@phillipmadigan3282]

The inconsistency of the thought processes in these series of videos blow my mind. -misposition post holes -re-drill post holes -set posts with foam (5 minutes set time) -use fence railing as post support during post foam set time -step down rails -terrain-flow pickets -cut post rails with saws-all -use circular saw for other cuts 🤦‍♂️

[@justabirdwithaword]

ah the Home Renovision channel. At first I loved their videos, but the longer I was a homeowner and the more DIY projects I did, the less I found his videos to be helpful or right. So that's all I can say about. I'd never recommend that channel anymore. Go watch Vancouver Carpenter instead.

[@badmotherhumper]

Ben rocks!

[@kathyr.6825]

I try to watch many videos before I attempt a project. During Covid I found that channel and loved it. I was a beginner diyer. Mostly the videos are just too long but these days I’m loving Drew’s work at Drew Builds Stuff. I can only aspire to that level of craftsmanship..! ❤😊 Thank you for sharing your expertise here. I wanna build my own fence at some point to replace my lovely chain link! 58 yo female working alone 🎉❤ 💪

[@ssiven]

I found the painting and drywall videos the most helpful out of all Jeff videos.

[@MrRaptorman1975]

@@ssiven and they were all terrible videos. His hanging and finishing techniques are horrible. I've seen Home Depot workshops from sales associates with more productive information.

[@rikityrik]

Love that channel (VC) too.👍 and feel same about renovision. Lol

[@RestynPeece]

lol sadly in houston , TX this is 90 percent of contractors day to day. I could show you some pictures. I've even had contractors come back to my house years later to ask "Who did that awful job" and had to tell them "yall did" . anything i CAN do myself , I DO do myself. Enjoyed the video, was hilarious, thanks.

[@OrganicGreens]

7:24 you recommend gloves when using a circular saw? I would never they could snag on something

[@cam.satterfield1768]

Ya you can tell he don't do that everyday

[@treeamigo8447]

I get the feeling Joe loves this guy lol

[@thescottishlion]

I like Jeff, he seems like a good genuine guy. Some of his tactics may be questionable, but he seems to care about what he putting out.

[@MrRaptorman1975]

What in the world are you talking about? I have followed Jeff for 6 years now and he is a hack who doesn't know what he is doing and doesn't care at all on how he gets to the finish line. He always talks about not being perfect and it's "good enough". He's a joke and hack at nearly everything he does. He even violates YT TOS by selling his products without labeling his videos as a distributor.

[@GerritVanDijk-d7s]

Being a nice guy and somewhat entertaining is misleading if you actually don’t know what you are doing

[@Alconium]

He's a "real contractor" which means he will barrel his way through anything he needs to, to get the job done. He has a bathroom remodel video from about a year ago where since he's pouring self leveling sludge across it, instead of pulling staples and prepping the floor, he just hammers everything flat. Wipes caulk over some nail holes on trim, caulks the edge of a particle board cabinet sitting on the floor to "keep the water out." That's just... That's the real way 99% of contractors will do this stuff. Is it the best way? The prettiest way? Most professional way? No. Is it real? Is it quick, easy and suitable for the situation? Did he get the bathroom done for 100 bucks and a cup of coffee? Yes. Once you know who and what Jeff is, his stuff is good, you know to take it with a grain of salt and it lets you turn a critical eye to other peoples work going "Ah, they're pulling a Jeff, but that won't hurt anything."

[@Mr__V]

I agree, if you watch him for the perfect way to do something you won't get that at all But. If you watch it for a by the skin of your teeth results of fixing something cheap by the code, you get that. It's good to watch it for an idea of the project or what a contractor will do. But if I want something done right, I will then watch someone else and see a better version of the job by a professional that is in that specific trade. Not just a general contractor that is a jack of all trades, but a master of none.

[@MrRaptorman1975]

@@Mr__V he doesn't fix things by code. He's 100% a hack. It's not good to watch for anything but entertainment. You won't see anything near what a contractor would do.

[@DestructionZero]

I've found his plumbing skill to be very informative and have learned and applied some of his tips to my own project. He was one of many sources though. I learned to "sweat" somewhere else. Likewise, I found this channel because I have fence storm damage so I seek those tradesmen directly in the field. Never even thought of going to Jeff's site to build one. It's hard to spend "several weekends" when you got dogs. Not more than 10k, hard though.

[@brendancurtin679]

Yeah, I learned how to “cut in” in painting the right way from one of his videos. He has some really good advice sometimes. And he has some pretty shit, corner-cutting advice other times. I won’t say you shouldn’t watch his videos to learn stuff, but don’t use him as your only source, either.

[@neogx148]

Is there a good video you would recommend on setting post and all the tips in building a wood fence . Im curious on keeping the pickets straight

[@JoeEverest]

😂😂😂

[@mdmconstruction]

D and J

[@neogx148]

@@mdmconstruction thanks for the recommendation

[@TheBrownSys]

I like Jeff and watch a lot of his videos. I remember watching this one sometime back well after I had built my first privacy fence. I just thought, "wow this seems like a terrible way to build a fence." Making the picket tops uneven looks awful.

[@Aepek]

5:16 As a remodeler and general contractor in the trades, if my crew installed the fence like this, well, A: they wouldn’t b/c they know my policy, and B: I wouldn’t b/c looks horrible and customer not gonna be happy; and C: we have A LOT of SUBDIVISIONS and HOAs that have LIST IF RULES for fencing and what can/can’t do (and then there is the code and inspectors etc…..), and just thinking real quick, I know of 5 hoa controlled (run, hmm) subdivisions (and these subdivisions aren’t small….im talking blocks, and 1 has town houses, condos, apartments from 2nd floor to 6 with bottom level shopping, restaurants, gyms, grocery store, and some are gated and some aren’t…for some context) THAT WOULDNT be happy if installed the fence like that and 100% positive they’d refuse to pay untill “fixed”.

[@chrislandrum4032]

We use metal square tubing for all our post and we have a nailer that shoots right into them with screws just in case you need to take them out. I say we use square tubing what I mean is, we try to convince our clients to choose them

[@dalepete2854]

I personally love watching his videos not that I would ever do his hacks, but it’s funny. I’m sorry for the people that do try them and lose all that money.

[@DenmanShooter]

I have used the foam, not a fan. Tried it on 2 posts decided to switch to quick set concrete post set. Also the use of post savers is great. A little extra time but well worth it.

[@JorgeHernandez-ib1px]

Great video and good advice thank you! Quick question in one of your videos you said to not attach a post to your house. I have a concrete slab in my backyard and I only have the wall (stucco) to my house to attach a solid piece of wood what would you recommend I do if I can't attach it to the house and I need to build a 6 ft High gate door? My neighbor doesn't want me to attached to his fence. Just for information I live in New York. Also my slab was built in a 45° angle so my gate entry is not parallel to the wall. Weird situation hope you can help, thank you! Keep those videos coming!

[@NasTwice]

I see Jeff as a general contractor and a "flipper", a jack of all trades but master of none. When I want to do a project, I check his videos on the matter to get a baseline and say "This is the minimum while cutting some corners". Then I go see other videos to get more details. It also helps that we are in the same city so when he's quoting municipal or provincial laws and norms, I know they apply to me as well. Also, when he uses a tool or product I've never seen before, I know I can go buy it within the city instead of finding out it's something that's only found in the USA. Now his fence videos, to me, they're weird and I don't trust them. I remember in one of his shed videos, he had contractors build a fence while he filmed that project. So he's not a fence guy and he knows it. The one that irks me the most is the measuring part, in his deck and shed videos, he preaches "Measure twice, make sure everything is square, level and plumb", "It's always better to spend a little more to make sure it's sturdy, that way it will last decades" and "When everything is well measured in the beginning, everything is straight and level at the end with minimal adjustment". Why so much approximation for fences ??

[@GonzaHero]

I got the sense on this particular project that Jeff took a very “can’t see it from my house” approach which isn’t his normal approach though he does not usually go the extra mile.

[@davekushman2363]

We start with level 6x6 posts buried 4 feet in the ground with concrete around them as code in my area (same area as Jeff) requires but once we go to hang the fence boards you still use a level to get the first one that’s against the post plumb and then double check every other board to keep things looking good and proper. Never use a sawzall to cut a board that’s visible, you’re a professional, use a tape measure and a skill saw or chop saw so you have nice clean cuts. Eyeballing is okay for a diy guy at their own house if they’re okay with the consequences but if someone is paying you to do a good job, using a tape measure and a level is not hard, won’t slow you down and is a must to call yourself a professional.

[@ss5gogetunks]

Crazy that we need to advocate using a tape and a level loo

[@davekushman2363]

@@ss5gogetunksexactly, homeowner is hiring you so they get a professional job done, if you’re not going to do it professionally and at the very least use a level and a tape measure you should be feeling ashamed collecting the cheque. Guys like that are the ones that make people scared to hire contractors because horror stories are based on guys like this.

[@TheodoreM-wp6cs]

This freaking guy again….hes the type of guy that makes us all look bad.

[@JoeEverest]

Absolutely agree, thanks for watching and weighing in!

[@kentoakley9409]

I agree with you 100% but unfortunately this day and age people don't necessarily care about quality because it costs more. People want the walmart/dollar general version on everything and worry about it later. Some are even it will be somebody else's problem because they are not going to live in the house that long. I watch a lot of Jeff's videos and the ones he puts out now do seem to be the quick the cheap and the ugly. Unfortunately he use to put out better quality videos don't know what has changed other than maybe people commented on the videos and it forced him to take a different direction with the channel. Side note I am redoing my own fence and didn't think about some of the things you have commented on, like the reveal. So I went out and checked my and I luckily have my around 8". Thanks for your comments.

[@ryanhansen7]

I like that Midwest lingo. Tuba four.

[@TheSeaOfAsher]

Hey stupid question but I never built a fence and I have small section. Could I run a string line for the top of the pickets and place my boards the string line to keep them against it even at the top instead of stepping them off the ground here? I have seen some guys use jigs for the placement of the boards but I don't have one nor do I want to make one as the section is small run.

[@brianbrooks1025]

I saw him doing a tile job for a shower, where the shower unit was a stainless steel panel system, he left a large square hole behind the panel. He stated that there will be water going in there, but it will evaporate.

[@RedGrayBeard1218]

I rarely use pressure treated pine. My family has multiple acres of land and a lot of locust and black locust trees on. So we use locust for fence posts.

[@jmackinjersey1]

I typically let my pickets dry out a few days before I nail them up. Then I don't have huge gaps between them large enough to drive a truck through. A wooden fence is typically there for Privacy. You can easily see through that fence.

[@von4297]

Been working on repairing my own fence as a diy homeowner. It is taking me forever, only having one day a weekend I can put toward it, generally. But I’d rather it last over time. Here are some things I did differently than this demo build: 1. Foot posts in concrete with concrete height above ground level. Some of the old posts failed (rotted) at ground contact with the dirt because the concrete footing ended a couple inches below ground level. Building up the footing above ground level will prevent moisture from (the soil) wicking into the wood so easily. I put a gravel base under the post to help drain water away from the post/concrete. And use concrete, not foam. The foam looks much too weak to last very long. Maybe for shorter fences, but not heavier 6ft fences. I thought renovision reviewed the foam and was able to push the post down by hand. The concrete test he could not. 2. Use decking screws not nails. Nearly all of the old pickets were pulling out because the wood wore and warped, and the nails didn’t have any “bite” to keep gripping in. Many nails were so loose i could pull them out by hand. Literally with my fingers only. Screws should bite and hold it all secure much longer. 3. Measure everything! If only measuring one picket is plumb, but others are off, then everything after it will also be off! I measure a couple points at the vertical (b/c some wood isn’t perfectly straight) and at the top across multiple pickets to align them evenly. A string would also work, but I figure, I’m already using the level, what’s one more measurement before screwing in the picket. 3. Dry the wood before installing it. Then you won’t have to wait as long to stain and ensure it’s absorbed into the wood. You can also then pick out any wood that dried weird and cracked before wasting stain on it. 4. I didn’t want to buy a paint sprayer, so I brushed in all of the stain. No waste from overspray, and it’s all evenly applied. But yes, took me a while. Honestly, the first coat is the most laborious. The second goes on much easier.

[@sidvillan4745]

Love your channel thank you

[@sidvillan4745]

Thanks for the free knowledge.

[@HowdyDo2]

What sealer do you recommend? Oil or water? I would normally want oil based which penetrates into the wood. I saw Olympic Elite stain which is water based. They say a 25 year warranty but I doubt it'd last that long.

[@jjr6929]

My gawd, that fence looks awful. Glad I found your channel as I'm about to build my first fence.... 60 ft long, neighbors have fencing i need to get close to but not touch ( but still need to block view in) Fortunately the run is fairly level. Tree roots might be a pain, we'll see. Glad to know the foam is not top choice. I'll be watching a lotta ur vids on this. Thank you.

[@Stevelemontrudy]

I don't know the right way to build a fence, but I remember watching the original video thinking to myself, "None of that seems right".

[@JoeEverest]

Absolutely, thanks for watching and weighing in!

[@jacobbuckley8232]

Overspray blowing right at the house lol

[@MichaelSmith-cc4cr]

I watched the entire series of commentary and read many of the comments. The Professional's review of the DIY process was extremely helpful, as I am looking at a couple of fencing projects and haven't yet decided whether to hire them out. So thank you to Joe for that, but Jeff's video is the perfect material for a critical review. My first point is that I wish my Dad was as knowledgeable and industrious as Jeff. On the other hand, he clearly does things half-ass and amateurish, but that is the selling point for his approach. A lot of DIY'ers just don't have the confidence to undertake a project like this after watching all the PRO instructional videos. Watching Jeff goof his way though a fence project and achieve acceptable results gives us hope that if he can do it, so can we. I see a lot of value in that.

[@williambray6]

Oh wow! I agree; if this were his own fence, then build it however you want. A paying customer is a different story. FWIW, I would be pissed if he built this fence on my property. I have installed many fences and learned something new every time I install one. Sometimes, it's what I can get away with that will speed up the project. The number one rule in building fences in Greater Houston is to call 811 first and have the utilities marked. This tells me if I can use my auger for the posts. I chose to dig the post holes by hand because the gas line was buried directly under the fence line (I could have probably risked it using the auger). I pull the concrete footings and broken posts and dig another foot down to a 3' depth (my preferred depth but not mandatory). I then cement them in alternating quick-set cement and water, mixing with a crowbar before adding more. Stringers are typically installed on top of the posts, with 2 more installed in between the posts using toenailed fasters that give a much cleaner look. It also requires the post tops to be level with each other (unless installed on a grade). Lastly, I use a guide string to align the top of your pickets. My favorite tool in these projects is a framing nailer using ring-shanked nails. (Oh yes, everything is checked with a level routinely, including every picket.)

[@fintiedfish3641]

I watched one of his tile videos years ago and couldn't believe it.

[@34stzoo]

I'm a fan of Jeff, but I do know his methods are questionable. I am good with my hands, and I have the necessary tools and basic knowledge. Jeff's videos are a good starting point for me. With that said I would not recommend anyone to follow his advice when it comes to building a fence.Too many red flags for me.

[@newsview7844]

@JoeEverest I tried to follow your link but KZbin deleted my comment. I paid to ship the hinges, then realized they only work with the steel framing in this kit. (The big box stores are selling steel framing for gates that require wood posts, ours are galvanized steel.) Anyhow, the website worked over Memorial Day. Now they're not allowing my zip code to qualify for shipping. I've left several messages and they aren't following up quickly enough. I have a handyman waiting on these parts to install my gates but I can't get to the gates without the frame kits. So my question is, what is the next best option if I can't buy the frame kits from your affiliate link?

[@JoeEverest]

Email what you’re needing to [e-mail] and they’ll take care of you. The gate frames are too large to ship via UPS, so they’ll need to work up a freight quote for you.

[@victorstillwell9893]

This should be good! Haven't watched the vid yet, but it's going to be good.

[@Neckbeardacademy]

I honestly am in no need of a fence or desire to put a new one in anytime soon. I enjoy your critiques of this “questionable” DIY channel and how seriously unprofessional the work is. This is absolutely a “what not to do video” lol. Great commentary, I had a great laugh, and honestly learned something (hire a professional, get it done right the first time).

[@rodmileski]

Jeff is not more than a cheap handyman knowledge-wise. A lot of the information is more a hack, like you said, than actually a professional process. My understanding when it comes to contractor business is when you have a great reputation, that will take and bring you business for many years. He had quite a few companies during his "contractor" time around Ottawa region. Never a good indication when your contractor open and close a few business in the same industry, in the same region.

[@MerrittProductions]

The roofing nails will still rust no matter what. I know from experience and if he’s using cedar he needs to use stainless anyway

[@garrysmith5224]

Agreed. Stainless is the way to go.

[@Handyman247llc]

This just proves the point, "Even if it is bad content", it's just more content and another video... I agree the top reveal is on the excessive side and it just looks bad. Even on my bad days I couldn't live to know I did such a crappy job. Fence gap on green lumber is just room to shrink and make huge gaps later (no brainer). I am assuming he was not worried about bottom gap because he was adding rock? Nice video review

[@doctorfrost3]

Didnt this guy try to give you a copyright strike or something for reviewing one of his old videos?

[@JoeEverest]

He filed a DMCA Takedown Notice, which is the pretext to a copyright strike. When we provided documentation of how we followed the Fair Use Doctrine the DMCA was reversed and dropped

[@JohnTheRevelat0r]

Who would want to spend time to build a crap fence on their $300k+ asset? If you're gonna DIY, take your time! That's one of the biggest benefits of DIY. You can build it by parts, prepare everything very well, and end up with a quality final product that would have cost much more to have someone else do it.

[@JoeEverest]

Absolutely agree, thanks for watching and weighing in!

[@mrushing76]

Can you imagine working for the Home RenoVision guy? Seems like a guy that's often wrong, but never in doubt.

[@AntEloftheHouseofEl]

No Joe, I completely disagree. This is not acceptable even for a DIY fence. It simply isn't. There must be thousands of fencing videos on KZbin. I dont know about anyone else, but if I'm trying to learn a new skill, I'm watching AT LEAST 10 different videos to learn as many tricks of the trade that I can. Jeff bloody knows better than this monstrosity of a so-called fence! Did he and his son fall out or something?

[@donaldwarwick6780]

I try not to be too hard, he is Canadian after all - everyone knows they have to get a permit to even fart LMAO.

[@THEATREGOD3]

I have a question with the fence posts being either Doug just straight into the dirt or cemented into the cement as is where I see the Creator here's Channel and others for setting fence posts that usually in wetter parts of the country no I'm definitely not a professional fence Builder I do have enough experience to be confused by something every time I call to help build a fence I see something two things 1 chisley rotted when it's been just put in the ground or two if it's just put in the cement what happens is it eventually just loosens up and becomes detached from the cement or breaks off at the connection knowing in California the labor force is is vast not necessarily experienced as one might think as I see the skilled laborers Woodworkers Etc that I've noticed back east or the Midwest first hand I know the difference so I'm wondering if it's just laziness cutting costs if I was going to put a lot of money in the fence I wouldn't want the woods sitting in the ground or make it impossible to remove in case it needs to be fixed later I suppose it was just cemented into the ground with a 2-foot by 1 ft easy enough to remove why not have a brackets all the way so you can just remove them tighten them up I built a gate on both sides of my house and when I cemented in the sidewalk I made sure I put in put brackets so that I can remove the fence post and get things in and out the backyard with no problem that idea has served me well

[@johng8049]

whats silly about all his stuff is it saves very little time or money. Just do it right the first time. Question you had mentioned pre staining the wood would prevent gaping. Are you setting out all the boards for 10days then stain each one before installing?

[@Galgamoth]

roofing nails will not hold when wind hits that fence

[@jmackinjersey1]

The only lumber you need to leave to cure before painting/staining is PT/GC structural lumber, not pickets.

[@kristenmarie7093]

Come on guys.. Jeff is clearly hung over and going through a mid life crisis during the filming of this video 😂😂😂

[@JoeEverest]

😂😂😂

[@BigRedServicesLLC]

I prefer using decking screws for my pickets instead of nails of any kind I know it takes longer and is more expensive, but a screw will hold that picket onto the stringer a lot better than a nail.

[@jonathanjordan6371]

Actually ring shank nails are better for fencing. They won’t back out just like screws, are harder to pull out and faster to use. The only pro you will get with screws is it will make it easier to take apart but we build fences to last not remove.

[@ReubenKing-nd6kd]

Is there a tool that made for making your spacing on your shadow box of Is the best way just eyeball it

[@jonathanblack5597]

You can use a shadowlizer or you can cut a board to fit your desired gap.

[@trbopwr79]

Used staples for my pickets

[@brent57]

Any job worth doing, is worth doing well.

[@JoeEverest]

💯

[@chrismorton1982]

You should his video on beginner tips on how to use a chop saw….

[@JoeEverest]

I can’t imagine 🫣

[@islandwills2778]

I use deck screws for putting in my pickets. Honestly i guess nails would be easier or at least faster but i think screws are more likely to last and have the benefit of pulling the pickets tight. I also put a 1/2 inch space between each picket. This allows for the chance of correction if the pickets start to become unlevel. I also wonder where this guy is getting his cedar, the cedar i got had almost no curve, a few pickets had a cup and there was some with dry rot but bows and twists was pretty much none existent. lots of it was actually clear (no or almost no knots) Maybe shitty cedar is all he has available? Has this guy ever even used a sawsall before? Yes that tool would work for this, but not the way he is using it.

[@mufuliramark]

From this video, I would not want this man building any fences for me...

[@Paulspicks-555]

I use screws Duran the handyman, Carrollton

[@rynhanson]

Your fears of his fence videos are the same fears I have about his drywall videos

[@dakotagraziani4947]

Funniest part of this series I’ve helped my dad build fences and do handyman work but this is abysmal I don’t understand how you can do this with good conscience to a customer it just doesn’t make sense.

[@RedWingsFanClub]

Cool jersey

[@ajdonally1522]

Love your content Joe...and I have Jeff on my follow list and i dont agree with alot of what he shows... however..i live closer to Jeff then you...and in Ontario Canada...cedar is not a small upgrade...cedar here is TWICE the price of pressure treated.

[@Watchingtowatch4036]

His channel should be how to Jerry Rig. The time it took for him to explain his videos he could've been using the tools correctly and prepped correctly. He saved no time doing this. Hind site is always 20/20

[@jensvincent4702]

I use stainless ring shanks.

[@dustind2487]

U better b careful. Jeffs gonna cipryright strike u😂😂

[@JoeEverest]

Already been there with him. We create the content following the Fair Use doctrine and document the process.

[@dustind2487]

@@JoeEverest great content Joe. Really enjoy it

[@billgregory-u9j]

yea your the greatest mind

[@JoeEverest]

@@billgregory-u9j appreciate you watching and weighing in!

[@ra4yu]

usually DIYers have excess time and limited budget on materials. Pro's would knock that fence out in a day or 2 and not want call backs but for a normal person taking an extra few days on details is not a big deal. If you are doing this for yourself, measure everything, wetset and prop all the posts, splice and rebate the rails in the posts, hit all the pickets with a block plane, sand them and pre finish them, countour them to the grade. This guys channel seems aimed at convincing diyers stuff is easy to get over the hurdle of starting, not exactly a good guide they should follow.

[@adamhatch9698]

I had the unfortunate luck to find Jeff early in in remodeling my basement. He suggested framing the walls on the floor, lifting them into place, and shimming them to fit. That's good. However, he also suggested that if you get a wall that is just a little too tall, just get out the trusty old sledgehammer and beat it into place. Don't. Those joists are holding up your floor above and forcing something under them will lift those joists even slightly and jack up the flooring on the next level. I really wish I would have found out how much of a fraud he is before then.

[@RiseAboveFilmsLLC]

Agree 100%. I watched this before watching your video and thought this guy was a fraud

[@unikornkontroller]

Jeff always seems to be in a hurry and is always out of breath. Also, I can't imagine just indiscriminately flipping a board from smooth to rough side. Once the sun hits it at an extreme angle all of the rough boards will stick out like a sore thumb.

[@dlucks174]

He forgot to mention to stain the top and bottom edges of the pickets.

[@themprestons]

Never seen this channel but I’m sure it’s like the “ House Flippers Channel “ HFC network

[@THEATREGOD3]

Your hassling Jeff😢😅 anyway trust that Jeff the reveal he probably has a plan for it either just cut Jeff likes to do is complete one area and then he'll go back and cut everything down at the same time I'm wondering if that's his plan here it all off how to do the same thing leave enough overhang that way you can go back run a straight line without trying to level each board

[@kenschmidt6522]

He reminds me of Red Green.

[@peterman8058]

This guy is kind of like the new guy on the job who supposedly has 20 years of professional experience but then he starts work, and this is what you get!

[@ss5gogetunks]

Like the "home builder with 50 years experience" my old boss trialled as a lead guy.... Who literally at one point said "i never build my own forms because they always blow out" This was after i told him the forms he built werent gonna hold because they werent braced and were just attached by 1 block on each side with 1 nail into old osb... He said dont worry about it, if it blows out we can fix it then on pour day and i worry too much Guess what, it blew out

[@jonnyfish76]

Man. I worked for one of the biggest fence companies in NY for 8 years. Mostly on the commercial side. Steel, guard rail, sports fields,jails, backstops and thousands of miles of chain link at every height from 4' to 24' This would never fly as being installed at a customer's house. It not only looks bad, but it's wildly inefficient. Take ALL of your posts, mark down for your top rail, mark for your grade, set the bitch using a LEVEL on 8' centers. Then you take your sections and install. Racking the sections when necessary to accommodate differences in grade while rolling the top line. Screw sections in. This is very amateur.

[@jasonwarren8055]

Joe where’d you get your orange wedding band! My company color is orange too I want one 😂

[@joejones56]

lol you might not be Jeff’s favorite guy

[@JoeEverest]

Man, I sure hope not!

[@philturinsky27]

You outta see the shed build video, he spent the whole time talking about diy and having a professional look, and his shed looks like shit. He's more worried about the cleanliness of the job site then he is about how his fence looks

[@georhdiaz]

Roof nails are going to end up coming out and stain the wood

[@Hammer.J.Helmer]

He's a terrible hack in almost all of the things he shows. He is authentic though, but some folks may think he's more qualified than he is because they forget that this is the internet.

[@davidg8032]

Safety glasses..... we don't need no stinking safety glasses!!!! Respirators..... we don't need no stinking respirators.... I can't watch his videos without consistently shacking my head in dismay...

[@THEATREGOD3]

So the way I understand Jeff and Jeff videos and what he tries to promote is look I'm going to talk in layman's terms I'm going to give you a little history about the way it used to be done the way we do it now and the way you can do it on a budget and things you can worry about things you should worry about and stuff you don't actually have to worry about but if you don't this could be a problem and it leaves those choices kind of up to you but you never leaves anything open-ended so you're guessing at the end and he always provides links to materials 10 things and plus discussions and feedbacks on the comments section Jeff is skilled in many different disciplines he works fast is smart informative but you got to keep up I've had to replay videos sometimes or rewind things to make sure that when he was talking about something he went back and tried to explain you need to do this in case of but if you do this you got to watch out for that a lot of creators do that and it does provide very confusing information for someone is stick to listen let's do it this way this is the budget wave if that's what you're teaching if you want the complete right way with the fancy brackets and expensive tools and the laser levelling and all the fancy shiny stuff so it looks like you're a hard worker but not really then you can do it that way I built a quick couple fences the other day and I didn't use nothing but a hammer I measured picket the top bottom and GAP measurement roughed it all together put it in place I need to go back in button it up show me some video of me doing what I was doing it either say oh that's genius saves you a lot of time or they would shake their heads because they're trying to sell sell sell fancy level or some kind of stupid device that's making somebody else a lot of money that's not going to work like that stupid under nailer I don't even know what that is but by the way I lose my mind loading One Nail at a time and that f****** thing

[@jacobbuckley8232]

GO BOLTS!!

[@MatthewBuck-r2p]

Lol it was a ring shank nail.

[@theamaturepro]

Pretty low of you to judge this man like this... He's Canadian, it's not his fault!

[@JoeEverest]

😂😂😂 I didn’t think Canadians even claimed him!

[@aaronrodden8121]

Dont blame Jeff, blame Canada...😂

[@overyourheadtampa]

I've been a fan of Jeff's for a long time and watched many of his videos including the movie he was in. This fence build disappointed me because he seemed to not care about the end result. It felt like a 'Hey dad, help me with this fence and I'll buy pizza and bottle of favorite liquor, oh we need to work quickly because the girlfriend's family will be arriving Monday so that gives us 2 days to complete and we still have to pick up the material from the box store" type of fence job. Not really a video worthy of putting on KZbin in my opinion. I'm not a professional construction-isto by any means, just very handy and have replaced multiple segments of my own fence over the years with good results, this particular fence video Jeff and Matt released made me shudder. Has to be one of, if not their worst.

[@JoeEverest]

Previous to this I thought their worst fence video was where Jeff was telling people they could install their fence with wood adhesive and brad nails. Then he came up with this mess.

[@jmackinjersey1]

I don't know why they used the short 2x4 as a shelf/guide to set the pickets, instead of the string across the top. Well, I guess I do know why. Because these guys are fence hacks, and don't know how to actually build a decent fence. So by this rtrd method, the top of the fence is naturally going to be jagged.

[@jmackinjersey1]

Nothing like breathing in all that paint overspray.

[@B.r.i.a.n.1]

Roofing nails is a new one for me. They arent even exterior rated.

[@JoeEverest]

With this guy nothing surprises me anymore.

[@richardhussey8388]

That guy cuts corners on decks too.

[@JoeEverest]

I don’t doubt it, thanks for watching and weighing in!

[@dylanburgess4644]

the way he just straight up mocks the use of ppe in his videos was a huge red flag for how irresponsible his other advice likely was

[@garrysmith5224]

I can't think of any customer that would accept this type of workmanship. On the nails we pay extra for stainless steel ring shank siding nails. That way, no black streaks on the cedar.

[@JoeEverest]

You’re not kidding, it’s an eyesore on day 1 and will only get worse. Good on you guys, quality first!

[@treeamigo8447]

Stainless ring shank or galvanized ring shank for pressure treated pine?

[@garrysmith5224]

@@treeamigo8447 I won't do pressure treated fence. I only build cedar.

[@treeamigo8447]

​@@garrysmith5224 Where I live, it's all pressure treated. I'm still looking for an answer to my question.

[@garrysmith5224]

@@treeamigo8447 I wish I could help. @JoeEverest might be able to answer that. I don't know if they do any PT pine in the land of the big orange trucks

[@davidwright6105]

This video just shows that you do not have to know what you are doing to put a video on KZbin.