DIY Roll Cage - Home Built Datsun 240z part 14

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[@hotdognr12323]

Seeing this episode reminds me of the rust you "shoved under the rug" behind the rear valence panel. I would remove the spot welds, remove the panel and fix it properly, or it will come back and bite you behind sooner or later. Working on old cars is almost always a love/hate relationship, but you always seem to make the best out of it. You've quickly become one of my favorite youtubers, and I love your work, keep it up! Merry Christmas!

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

I plan on treating that rust 'under the rug', just by encapsulating it with a rust inhibitor.

[@hotdognr12323]

Home Built By Jeff That will certainly slow it down, but only for a while in my experience. I believe the time spent drilling a few spot welds and removing the rust is worth it, and it's much better to deal with it now than finding out later the hard way. I don't really see why you're investing so much in this car only to leave structural frame rusty, it just doesn't seem logical.

[@CowbellCustoms]

I'll take that 110°f I just walked outside slipped on ice, broke my thumb cut my arm up and racked my head on the concrete. I despise this 15°f winter BS Although this is good entertainment in the mean time.

[@musclecarczarig4003]

One step forward two steps back....gotta love old cars! At least the wood and rubber straps on the seat had to make you laugh! Keep up the great work!

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

...and the wooden blocks that were propping up the rear seat bolts... Some people don't realise that seats are actually safety features.

[@mickcoomer9714]

From memory the 240 seats were very thin but very comfortable and gave a lot of support.

[@nerner67]

Glad I am not the only one with one of the rust free car purchases.

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Gotta love 'rust free' cars ;)

[@xatirdaeva5506]

Good job dud Datsun is my dream car with Vw MK4 i'm French and where i am for my sadness I can't found a Datsun but see u restore this baby make me happy go ahead! Keep moving and fix this car

[@Scooopdog]

Just go on to a JDM website and import one , i'm importing one now into Ireland

[@Mrcaffinebean]

I believe you need a level that "makes the noise". Key to any fab operation! 😂

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Binky is the best ;)

[@Mrcaffinebean]

Home Built By Jeff you're right there with them!

[@richardculbertson8027]

Nice for some being too hot where you got as I'm northern Ireland it's currently averaging 3 degrees centigrade. Hope you and Mrs Jeff have a great Christmas and New year

[@welshmaniacs16]

Your so lucky to have 43 degrees. Uk has been like an ice wrink past few days lol.. -2 degrees yesterday with halestones trying to work on my rally car in the garage. Lets just say my fingers only just made it because of the heat from welding haha... great work as always 👍🏻 love ur vids

[@mmodtomic7119]

I'm on my 3rd Z (it's awaiting my attention in the garage collecting dust at the moment) here in the mid-west of the USA, and by MY standards that IS a Rust Free Datsun! BTW, just subbed.

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Rust free is always relative isn't it ;)

[@dunter1969]

Merry Christmas to you and Mrs Jeff, when it comes.👍👍👍

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Merry Christmas to you too.

[@truthseeker8483]

Love the bogan seat repair with wooden blocks... The mobile phone level is handy! Jeff your getting very efficient at rust repair now.....Have a great Xmas

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

The free level app' is great, and really accurate (to 0.1 of a degree).

[@pauls3585]

Awesome job on the cage. Merry Christmas to you and your family.

[@CarsBikesandCoffee]

Great work on the Z!

[@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr]

This dudes a legend Whenever your in texas ill hook you up man

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Haha, thanks mate.

[@tcricafort3883]

Love the fun facts bit with the mrs, but i think it needs a few tweaks. A good script and a few editing magic do wonders. more power to this channel

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

I don't run with a script for the bulk of the work, as I am still trying to keep momentum. Mrs Jeff would work better with proper queue cards or a prompter, but then I wouldn't have any bloopers ;)

[@StevenVigus]

Another awesome video, Jeff. Congratulations on hitting 20K subscribers (later today). You deserve it!

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Thanks mate. I am currently on 19990 so fingers crossed it will be in the next hour or so :)

[@mikl911]

What do mean wood isn't good? It was good enough for wagons for a hundred years lol. It is just scary what some people do. Have a Merry Christmas and look forward to seeing more of your stuff in the New Year!

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Thanks, Merry Christmas to too.

[@damienwalker1026]

Tube and pipe, the only difference is the way they are measured. Tube is measured by outside diameter, pipe is inside diameter.

[@cf5914]

Those seats!

[@365hillclimb]

This feels like the "main hoop too far forward" comment was directed at me specifically. Whether it was or not ... Ouch, Jeff!

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Haha, I realised how close to home it would get for you when I was editing it last night ;) Where are your update videos? It must be pretty cold there now, so you should be inside building :D

[@365hillclimb]

Just published one! Race season got really busy after thrashing to make it to the Mt Washington hillclimb, and we ran out of time to edit. It's 26° here now (-3°C for most of the world) so it's starting to get chilly out, for sure. There's definitely one advantage to working with steel instead of carbon fiber - Welding keeps you warm and doesn't care if it's cold out, and carbon fiber resin requires lots of heat to cure (which is expensive).

[@1dickycat]

Doesn't seem like Mrs. Jeff is as "tipsy" this week 😂

[@DJInclined]

Lol I thought the thermometer was in F°. "Damn how that guy wearing a t-shirt in 43°."

[@JustAnotherAsianGuy2]

o dam i going to miss watching your wife .... merry X-Mas and happy new year to you both !

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

You still have the whole 911 series if you haven't watched that yet. There is another 67 episodes there to keep you entertained ;)

[@p3l1k44n1]

Good job Jeff! Can't wait for the finished porsche. Can you do a review on it once it's done?

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Absolutely. There are a lot of Porsche videos still to come.

[@ToughGarage]

I know exactly what you mean Jeff about thinking you have gotten all the rust only to find more. It was the same with my Cortina project. Yay, No, Yay, No !!!! Also can I ask what type of tripod your using or whatever it is your using, you seem to get a great angle downwards from a fair height to shoot video footage. Mine doesn't get high enough for what I'd like sometimes.

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

My tripod is a very crappy, cheap ebay job. I need to get something a bit more solid so I don't knock it over and smash my camera again.

[@dangates2266]

It is -22 C here today, saw some poor bastards out fixing a watermain on my way to work today. Bet they would change places with you!

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Wow. That is cold. We are is a very cold part of Australia and the lowest we regularly get is -6C. That did make it better the other day though, as an hour from me, down the hill, it was 41 outside to our 34.

[@herrcrazyme8713]

I'll let someone sandblast my z's frame to see every single one of The problems i have to deal with all at once. It's better than discovering more and more rust as the project goes on.

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

The Alfa will be getting dipped, to make sure I find EVERYTHING

[@herrcrazyme8713]

Home Built By Jeff I am really looking forward to that! When in the next year will you start the alfa project ? I'm assuming when the Z is at a stage similar to where the 911 is at now?

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Haha, I think you have the impression that the videos are actually 6 months behind the actual work like a regular TV show. That is definitely not the case. I generally finish filming the weeks episode around 4pm on a Friday. I am usually a party animal Friday night, editing the video and generally get around to uploading it around 11pm, and then go to bed. What you see is as up to date as it gets.

[@herrcrazyme8713]

Actually I knew you upload the day you finish an episode because you mentioned it in some 911 videos ^^ What I meant was that you will probably start working on the alfa project when there's "no mor work until ... is ready" with the z, I think. I only wanted to know roughly when you want to start on the alfa... Sorry when what I am talking about doesn't make sense :D Me a German so mein english ist not so gut ;D

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

All good. Hopefully I will have both the Porsche and the Datsun will be done before that Alfa starts, but I have no timelines set. It takes as along as it takes I suppose.

[@victorylanel3150]

please don't weld the hoop to the floor, box up the corners as platforms you can also concave the wheel arches a bit and weld the hoop to them for more strength.

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

The cage is going to be a bolt in, but I was still considering the mounts. On the 911 I had flat surfaces to work with. I will probably mount the rear stays to the flat section on the top of the strut tower, and the feet I was going to go a foot with a bend in it. Do you have photos of the mounts you have done?

[@victorylanel3150]

+Home Built By Jeff yeah may have some send email address

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

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[@lanesteele240]

No such thing as a rust free Datsun. You can chase that dragon until time ends or it kills you.

[@チョビビッグ]

日本🇯🇵から観てます。🎶😆👍

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Thanks mate, glad you have you here.

[@KieranSmit]

Jeff, where do you get your tube from? For some reason all the metal warehouses down here in the ACT don’t stock tube... apparently

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

I had to go to a specialist at Eastern Creek to get it. All they do is roll cage tube. I believe they will ship it to you as well.

[@kit6041]

What kind of tubing bender is that?

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

It is my design. Just look in my playlists and I show you how to build it and link to my plans for free.

[@silvermane9370]

You think this car is rusty? Wait until you start on the ferrous oxide formerly known as an Alfa... Btw why on earth don't you make up script boards for Mrs Jeff?? Many actors have them and the electronic ones called autocue are used by all live tv. Or are you just making her work?

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

I have to make sure there are bloopers don't I? I can't make it too easy for her :D

[@silvermane9370]

Home Built By Jeff aha, you are unmasked Dr Evil!

[@rodneysrepurposingrecyclin3821]

Do you only record the bits we see, or is there more video? I would be interested in some real time clips. Sort of behind the scenes if ya will.

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

There is hours, but it is basically what you see sped up. I may look at doing some live streaming during my work day at some stage on FB or Insta.

[@rodneysrepurposingrecyclin3821]

Home Built By Jeff I really enjoy the build, I just look for more detail, or blunders lol. I also wanted to say I think you're doing a bang up job on the car.

[@nickmcarr617]

Don't know about you Jeff, but if I took real-time footage of my resto it would be hours of me sitting there, inspecting bits, thinking, and then 10 minutes of activity. you gotta do it properly!

[@rodneysrepurposingrecyclin3821]

nick mcarr yea I underdeveloped this an all. I just like more of the real activity lol. I know there's hours an hours in it. But there's more that would be good entertainment. In my pinion.

[@wesgates5632]

You need Bend Tech EZ, best $70 you'll ever spend.

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

I had a look, but I don't see how it would help for a simple cage. The design is not a big issue, and having the template makes it really easy to lay the hoop down for measuring. As you saw in the video, having a good design is one thing, but then it is made by hand and if something is slightly out you need to fix it on the fly.

[@grantgrant77]

What’s happening with the 911?

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Still waiting on parts

[@grantgrant77]

I hope they come soon. I'm really looking forward to more videos on your 911. If you can, next time you do a video of it, please do some slow motion close ups of all the interesting bits. Its such an awesome car to look at. I cant wait to see you drive it.

[@joelb2660]

Are you not concerned with if the roll cage is actually safely made? I would be worried about the cage buckling and impaling me. I know for racing a home made cage would be no good. Not unless it was made from a kit from a recognised supplier.

[@joelb2660]

Maybe I should watch the whole video first. Still I think I would feel better about a kit from a supplier.

[@1dickycat]

I've built and seen a lot of home built cages. As long as it follows the standards of what ever class you plan on running in, its usually good. Not every car has to be ready for rally races (bout as extreme as cage building gets). Think of it this way, would you rather have something or nothing? If this car wrecks hard enough to buckle that 1.5"(guessing) dom tube.. If you didn't have it at all the car would be a pancake.

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

The tube bender is approved and I have followed the rule book to a T. As @1dickycat mentioned, the tube is probably 10 times stronger than the car itself (I am a firefighter and I have cut up plenty of them). I have more faith in this than in most of the flimsy kits out there. Rally cages don't come from kits, they are made like this.

[@joelb2660]

Yes I saw your comments in the video after I made my original post! 😂 You are both very correct, full on Rally cages are made piece by piece for sure, I was thinking of the likes of “safety devices” cages we get in the uk for a kit. Good work! 👍🏻

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

I would be wary of some of those kits, as they don't generally comply to motorsport standards (at least not here). They are much lighter weight, and often made in China.

[@maeldepoplimont2333]

You lost you time, i have a cage in my Z but i don't want to keep it :')

[@Chris.Davies]

Oh dear. Why ruin a perfectly good car with a roll cage? Such a shame Jeff. Leave it original! Take the silly plastic flares off. The 240Z is an absolutely beautiful design, and you are not improving it. Strangely, I had no problem with you racifying your 911, but for some reason, I find hacking up a 240Z to be a low-quality idea. A straight, and factory original 240Z is going to be worth a huge chunk of change in the very near future. Seems like a shame to make it worth a lot less.

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Complete originality is not seen the same way in Z circles as it is in the Porsche world. This car is not super early, and is not matching numbers anyway (and flares were actually a factory option in the day). The cage is bolt in, so it is not permanent either.

[@chrisolanda5793]

This bland, vanilla perspective of the the car world, and life generally, comes free in the user manual of every Camry purchase.

[@rwdplz1]

He's starting with a car that's in such bad shape, it isn't really a shame to cut it up and modify it.