If I were a gator, I'd just wait next to the trail. It's like those sushi restaurants where dishes come by on a conveyor belt. =)
@Pack.Leader3 жыл бұрын
LOL!!!
@stephaniem9993 жыл бұрын
OMG best comment ever 🤣🤣🤣
@HomemadeWanderlust3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@suzannehedderly13313 жыл бұрын
Lol!
@joeyblueeagle27073 жыл бұрын
LOLOLOL
@Chris_Martin7073 жыл бұрын
Dixie hiking the AT Me: Maybe I can do that! Dixie on the PCT: Me: Yeah, that's close by me. I'll try that. Dixie on the CDT: Me: Maybe one day Dixie on the FT: Me: OH HELL NO!
@jimmyjenkins92403 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@L_yeah3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly! I live in Louisiana and when I learned about this trail in Florida I knew it was not for me. This video confirmed that. No Way, No How!
@wingnox3 жыл бұрын
Haha yall babies come on we only have the most poisonous and dangerous species in the United States 😄. Im a Florida Native and love the FT but I won't even put myself through big cypress. I lived close to it growing up its a beautiful place.
@jurassicstroller8033 жыл бұрын
Lol Funny how we approach things so differently. This one goes on my list. I just bumped it up to #2. Although I'm fine with gators it's the mosquitoes that will be annoying.
@Mtnsunshine3 жыл бұрын
Lol...same here! ☺️
@evermar13 жыл бұрын
Convinced in the first minute I will never hike Florida.
@MrHerks3 жыл бұрын
AMEN!! 😂
@ceoatcrystalsoft49423 жыл бұрын
Crawdads do you no harm. I didn't even know they left the water
@surfandstreamfisher57493 жыл бұрын
me too, no desire to hike the florida trail!
@evangelist22513 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I understand your sentiment. I've hiked about a hundred miles of the Florida Trail starting at the southern terminus. To me, it's definitely not as exciting as the Pacific Crest or even the Appalachian Trail. But our 16 year old son loves the Florida Trail most of all.
@leleprtk3 жыл бұрын
ZERO desire to hike the florida trail, not my type of trail at all 😫
@621bmt3 жыл бұрын
As a Georgian, it made me incredibly happy to hear someone else tell bugs to “g’on. Git!”
@melburnett3 жыл бұрын
I didn't think nothing of it. I say it all the time. Or "g'on, git on outta heya". (Translation--Go on, get out of here.) I'm a Georgia Boy and when you hear me talk, you'll damn well know exactly where I'm from. hahaha Kinda like Dixie. haha
@alanhelton3 жыл бұрын
Bless their little hearts!!
@lindsayslifecafe75693 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@demoncleaner803 жыл бұрын
Made me think of Neebs Gaming (all my gamer / hiker crossovers will understand!)
@hikerJohn3 жыл бұрын
That owl call was amazing
@MarDeBrooks3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@woodchip27823 жыл бұрын
Yeah! It was amazing, especially the reaction of the owl! It looked insulted.
@MarDeBrooks3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’m not sure what I said to him but he didn’t think it was nice 🤣🤣
@jenniferlawrence13723 жыл бұрын
Aaron's excellent music choice drove me to find it. In case you're wondering too, it's Debussy's Girl with the Flaxen Hair.
@ChrisSunHwa3 жыл бұрын
I think most people would think this is weird, but I appreciate that you just turned the leech loose instead of harming it for doing what it's designed to do. I know you have to do what's necessary with mosquitoes and such, but I like that you have compassion for innocent creatures and don't do pointless things just to be cruel.
@vernonprevatt-usmc3 жыл бұрын
Waiting for the references to the Florida State bird, the mosquito 🦟.
@thomashodge11543 жыл бұрын
Too funny 😂
@mikeroy67133 жыл бұрын
Yes they are Ravenous here and much meaner than Alaska or Costa Rica. And don’t get me started on the no-seeums....
@georgebecht63573 жыл бұрын
We call them "Tankers"
@RyanCarpenter3 жыл бұрын
I've always like encouraging people to do the Big Cypress swamp. It's a wonderful experience and it can make even a triple crowner feel like they're going backpacking for first time because it's so exotic and different! Definitely one of my favorite sections of trail ever as well. *nodding* =)
@HomemadeWanderlust3 жыл бұрын
🙌🏻🙌🏻
@russelljackman14133 жыл бұрын
Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful! Another reminder of what a good soul Dixie is-- when she put a leach back in the water and says, "Be free!" That touched my heart!
@doryliggett84073 жыл бұрын
Nice to watch you do this, because I never will.
@Pack.Leader3 жыл бұрын
Amen. I can't believe she's doing it of her own free will and enjoying it too.
@extremelydave3 жыл бұрын
Dory, I am now seriously wondering about our intrepid hiker. I think that leech injected crazy venom in her. Every step on this trail made me think of an old prison break movie in the swamps.
@djg59503 жыл бұрын
I watched Daisy Kirby do this SOBO this past winter and decided that you will never see me walking through all that swamp. I'm not afraid of gators but the snakes I do not want to encounter. I'm not really afraid of snakes, at least not rattlesnakes, encounter them 3 times in my travels but the cottonmouths and copperheads are down right scary to me. Glad to see Daisy, Dixie, and Second Chance hike it though so I don't have to.
@emmabalduzzi46653 жыл бұрын
Yes!!
@asherdog92483 жыл бұрын
Funny,
@kcricket393 жыл бұрын
These Florida Trail videos make my heart happy. As a Louisiana transplant stuck in Maryland, seeing swamp and cypress trees and gators makes me smile and very much miss home.
@antsy_does3 жыл бұрын
LOVE how you loved this section. It's underappreciated by many and a NO-GO for those who shy away from the wetness. It really is one of the coolest stretches of trail anywhere.
@melaniebacca20813 жыл бұрын
Seeing it through Dixie’s eyes makes it seem pretty cool. I’m still not doing it though!
@kylemay60436 ай бұрын
That was definitely Skunk Ape you heard at night! Welcome (back) to Florida. I love seeing hikers vlogging the Florida Trail. It's so beautiful in so many ways.
@stevekingsbury71903 жыл бұрын
LOL. Reach "Thank God Island" just in time for a rain shower. Classic "Hiker Luck". Thanks for the post.
@HomemadeWanderlust3 жыл бұрын
Right?! 😂
@robertmiller28303 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you’re not doing this one alone
@oliverkrell92903 жыл бұрын
This is the coolest trail I never want to hike.
@cribbage3 жыл бұрын
You're living the dream Dixie! Thanks for taking us along!
@vickirogerson1793 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous Barred Owl! All those different native air plants are types of tillandsias. Great video showing this part of the trail.
@candylanes64623 жыл бұрын
Florida has the best night ambience, easy to fall asleep too.
@susiehilsman13603 жыл бұрын
That transition from the setting sun to lighting the stove-💯!
@waltquandt62263 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie.. hiking through all that swamp water is not my cup o tea. I liked watching you all do it though! 😊
@suzan1mal3 жыл бұрын
“Dry out” in FL? LOL...that’s so funny! That’s one thing I do not miss about Florida. Things took FOREVER to dry naturally.
@MyraHart19433 жыл бұрын
The Biodome Homeostasis reference SLAYED ME! 👌
@LifeHappensLetsFixIt3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I just finished canoeing 145 miles of the Savannah River with a couple of guys and we saw some similar sights and sounds. Gators, snakes, cypress trees, owls, plus Spanish Moss. I agree with your sentiment... trips like these are unique with lots of sights and sounds that most people won't get to experience.
@28105wsking3 жыл бұрын
Was hoping to hear gators 'growling' oooooo scary! Put salt on leeches to get them off. The last time I saw a leech in Nepal, the local family pulled it off me and put it on a hot coal from the pit fire in the living room floor to kill it. And you gently pull it off and put it back in the water with a wish and blessing! Your compassionate mind is so lovely.
@defeqel65373 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it depends on the type, but leeches usually let go after a little while.
@raeperonneau49413 жыл бұрын
Dixie, thank you for creating a community where reading the comments either fills my soul or makes me laugh out loud! ...and this IS super cool terrain.
@sugarstick69903 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite hiking vlogs ever! Really outstanding production. Love the natural history 💚🐊🌴🦉
@maple_fields3 жыл бұрын
Grew up in Florida, can confirm this is how I went to and from school each day.
@robertlaur30193 жыл бұрын
Florida trails are awesome! I live here so we enjoy them often!
@padave75053 жыл бұрын
Gators, no problem...snakes, not an issue...mosquitoes, slight annoyance...leeches, I’m out!
@macgyver19513 жыл бұрын
Hey Dixie. Love your videos. So glad you got to experience the underrated Florida trails. I've lived here nearly all my life and love the diversity and uniqueness of our ecosystems.
@RPalo713 жыл бұрын
I'm living vicariously throught your trail videos. Currently I can only do overnighters because of work. Looking forward to a small section hike on the part of the Florida Trail in summer.
@ajensen27133 жыл бұрын
Summer is not the best time to hike in Florida. Its much nicer October-April.
@RPalo713 жыл бұрын
@@ajensen2713 Summer is thre time I have. I don't have the luxury to wait until October.
@BrianDenton33 жыл бұрын
Really great that you're doing a Florida Trail thru hike. I'd be interested in learning if you're doing anything special in terms of foot care for the Big Cypress section of the trail. That water must be killing your feet.
@RyanCarpenter3 жыл бұрын
I can't speak for Dixie, but when I did it, I didn't feel like my feet required any special care. They'd be wrinkly like I'd been standing in a bathtub all day, but they never got any hot spots or blisters and the cool water kind of felt refreshing on an otherwise hot day. The mud when I got out of the water was much more problematic!
@AidaJof3 жыл бұрын
Crikey - You are a brave woman, Dixie. There is not enough money to entice me through this terrain but OMG - it is beautiful and thank you for posting it for us! Happy trails!!!
@brandonmizner16993 жыл бұрын
Please upload more video of Florida ASAP : ) we love watching your videos with our son
@thatscool15503 жыл бұрын
I cannot thank you enough for taking us along on your adventures!!!!!!!!! love from Oregon
@kathleen_ryan3 жыл бұрын
I could not hike this, watching it makes my skin crawl just a bit, but watching you do it is so cool. Love your videos!
@danielcluley8703 жыл бұрын
I am a native Floridian and have sectioned a great deal of the Florida trail, but never hiked this swamp section. Always did the dry land areas in Central and North Florida. You are making me want to do a through hike! (have been camping in the Everglades and swampy areas before, but never hiked/backpacked). The great thing about the Florida trail is that it is so diverse. You get Everglades/swamp, pine forests, scrub, prairies and marsh prairies, sandhill, upland forest, and some deciduous forest up north and in the high elevation areas. So much diversity throughout the state!
@danielcluley8703 жыл бұрын
BTW, Gators kind of sound like a bigger, deeper bullfrog grunt. Biggest gators I have ever seen were in Lake George up north.
@melissaworkman15783 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you are showing the beauty of natural Florida! So many people associate Florida with Disney, never realizing how amazing the flora and fauna can be. Thank you for showing my homestate some love!
@robdunaway50613 жыл бұрын
I did the same section last February solo. The noises at night on Oak Hill Island are an experience.
@kmonnier3 жыл бұрын
I have been in FL a few times and your video reminded me of the smells down there
@pilateshotty3 жыл бұрын
Simply excellent. The trail craft, the stewardship, the fellowship and the passion for a new and different challenge. Inspiring and one of the better uses of You Tube I've seen.
@DavyDave3 жыл бұрын
Hey, Dave class of '80. War Eagle 🦅 just retired and as I've always just day hiked. I needed guidance on overnight things. So glad I found your channel. Thank you so much. Living in the Denver area and hiking the Rockies. Thanks again.
@sarahgreen36633 жыл бұрын
I am flat on my back recovering from a foot injury. Was supposed to be doing the OR and WA sections of the PCT this July but will not be. I’m depressed when it comes to anything hiking. I can’t get myself to watch any videos. But yours I can. You even get me thinking that I want to do the Florida trail despite really having no natural inclination to. You’re something special and I like your vids!! Thank you so much for keeping the dream alive!!..
@thereisaplace3 жыл бұрын
Hello Dixie - great video and so happy to see you hiking Big Cypress. If you ever do the FT again, there is an old section of the trail south of Oasis down to The Loop Rd. Gorgeous beyond description! It was always strange that the FT ended on The Loop in the absolute middle of nowhere… guess that’s why it now ends at the visitor center. Anyway, thank you for posting this. Liked and Subscribed!
@orangew39883 жыл бұрын
Just wonderful to see someone truly enjoying a trail so much. I doubt this type of hiking is for me, its pretty different terrain than where I live, Scotland, but thank you for sharing it with us and showing us all the wonderful parts it shared with you.
@rebeccaB86683 жыл бұрын
Aaron does a great job of capturing the feelings of the "moments" with his music and transitions. I still loved his CDT edits. Dixie you are an inspiration for us "maybe one day" hikers and adventurers. I am going out this weekend to hike ... but I'll stick to seeing the pesky squirrels instead of an alligator.
@christopherconnelly69123 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dixie. That looks beautiful, now I have another addition to my bucket list.
@larryoliver69353 жыл бұрын
just so you know.. your videos are very addictive, i don't hike but i have watched at least 30 of your videos.. keep them coming
@superdave548113 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting to see you hike Florida since your PCT trip. Love you. Watched you since you started the Applachian Trail.
@alexmarchica52643 жыл бұрын
I love that you're down in my neck of the woods! The florida Trail is something else, Im glad you appreciate it as much as you do!
@tailgunnerhikes47033 жыл бұрын
6.55 As long as someone doesn't reply "Those aren't mountains, those are waves!"
@melburnett3 жыл бұрын
From the Movie "Interstellar". Good one Gunner.
@oldschooljeremy81243 жыл бұрын
Dixie's next "favorite trail": Snake Island in Brazil. Or maybe Fukushima Prefecture in Japan. :o
@donkeysaurusrex78813 жыл бұрын
On top of everything else is illegal to go to Snake Island without permission from the Brazilian navy. Most of Fukushima is safe to visit though, and there are a lot of old post roads in Japan that would be nice they hiking trails if you aren’t afraid of bears and aggressive troops of monkeys.
@Red_Twizzler3 жыл бұрын
The only KZbin channel that knows how to incorporate music without being distracting. Love it. Ya’ll are true artists. Thank you!
@emilycourtney66963 жыл бұрын
Long-time listener, first-time caller. I just have to express how refreshing your perspective is. For someone such as yourself, who has seen and hiked such magnificent landscapes, to appreciate and enjoy this type of wilderness and wildlife is incredibly inspiring. It says so much about your genuine love for the natural world. Grateful to get to watch your journey. Thank you for sharing.
@matthewgodwin46263 жыл бұрын
Visited there as well but only hiked the Everglades a bit this December. The amount of wildlife out there is pretty amazing 🦐
@nana73carol463 жыл бұрын
This is not the hike I would ever do! More power to ya.
@scanzaroli3 жыл бұрын
This looks amazing, and I love your excitement and how you appreciate nature. I can't wait to hike this! Thank you.
@kellydtth27493 жыл бұрын
Definitely an amazing section. I’lol have to give it a try. Beautiful video, much gras.
@holdswoa3 жыл бұрын
Love this video. I went through a week after you and loved it. Hopefully after watching this people will realize how beautiful it is and realize they will not be attacked by gators.
@matiasrios27193 жыл бұрын
You are such an amazing people, I've lived here in Immokalee for 20 years and would never dream of trying this, but thank you . I have followed you all over the country.
@Oldsparkey3 жыл бұрын
The Gators will sound off during mating season ( Summer ) and it's the big bull gators who will make you sit up and take notice. The best way to describe the bellow is about like a very large Tiger with a hangover but a lot stronger. On a nice quiet night the sound will carry and when it's close to your camp it's even louder.... really loud. A Panther will make two different sounds , either the meow like a domestic cat or a scream which will make every hair on you body stand straight up. Back in the middle 50s one screamed outside the house and it's something to remember , especially when all the windows are open. That same night a neighbor , down the road , heard a cat meowing and went out to chase it away. He came eye ball to eyeball with it and it wasn't a tabby cat.
@101taiga3 жыл бұрын
I’ve lived in Florida for 30 years and the farthest I hike is from my air conditioned house to my air conditioned car. I cannot hike in heat and humidity like that. Sucks the life right out of me. You and your friends are made of strong stuff! 💪🏼
@stephaniem9993 жыл бұрын
My ac in my truck is broken I'm hating life rn and come july it'll just be worse
@antsy_does3 жыл бұрын
Florida's "hiking season" is rather short (December - April) but man is it beautiful out in our woods. Summer hiking means getting up at the crack of dawn to beat the sun, and hiking with LOTS of ice cold water in your backpack :). I'm out there year-round!
@ceoatcrystalsoft49423 жыл бұрын
Nothing against you but that's why people say global climate change isn't a thing. I hope you don't feel the same
@gailhitson67222 жыл бұрын
I have been outside at the crack of dawn to mow my lawn, and it is still steaming hot in the summer. I live in Northeast Florida, too.
@HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy3 жыл бұрын
Dixie I love watching your videos. It was well worth the 17minutes and 23 seconds less sleep I'll get tonight! I can't wait to get my trail legs back!
@UHollis3 жыл бұрын
one of the more instantly remote and beautiful places I know of. You made it look even wonderful. Florida is magical, get ready.
@doctorjoey33 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the G R E A T video, I've been in Florida for 30 years, and have always gone North to backpack, LOVE Florida, but not the swamps .. Power to you both .
@nedkraft65663 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your video. I was on the first survey backpacking trip, in 1972, thru the Big Cypress to determine the location of Section 1 of the Florida Trail . The group included Jim Kern, founder of the Florida Trail Assoc.
@Anna314159263 жыл бұрын
That music though 😍 I loved watching this-- the landscape is so gorgeous and foreign. Also hiking through there looks like a nightmare I never knew I had 😂
@Ratatrail3 жыл бұрын
Great episode Dixie!! Such a different trail, wanna hike it one day!
@summittheworld3 жыл бұрын
There’s to much water, swamp...alligators 😳
@chrisestill88253 жыл бұрын
I can deal with rain, wind, hot, cold, long climbs, bushwhacking, snakes on land, almost any of it. There is no way I’d slog through all that water. I do my best to avoid sharing a pool with moccasins and gators. And the grit in your socks! My feet would be shredded. Dixie, this is one of the most hardcore hikes I’ve seen anyone tackle and you’re loving it.
@casimirpoholek12143 жыл бұрын
Hi Dixie! I am so happy to see you’re on the Florida Trail. I’m a Florida hiker and seeing our beautiful state on your channel has been awesome. Florida doesn’t get enough recognition for its trails. It is amazing here! Hope you enjoy the rest of the trail. I’ve hiked pieces of it and have loved every minute!
@richardouellette87853 жыл бұрын
I love hiking and watching videos of hikers, but this is especially incredible. Never in a million years would I hike here though but it is fascinating.
@forresthikes28913 жыл бұрын
Gives me goosebumps to watch it through your eyes and seeing it again! Hope your toe is feeling better!
@Josephhikes3 жыл бұрын
So awesome watching you back on trail .
@erinross40143 жыл бұрын
I'd be worried about "trench foot" most of the trail seems to be under water. If it wasn't for that I'd prob be inclined to try it.
@PapaRocks3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this interesting adventure. It’s better than a Hollywood movie to me!
@Tier1Citizen3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad to see you back out on the trails Dixie.
@anthonyalessandrini32403 жыл бұрын
Love and appreciate your choice of background music. Very symphonic.
@aimlesslyrunning51272 жыл бұрын
when he drops the filter I about lost it rofl talk about something you DONT want happening in the swamp lol I also love that your fire looked like a makeshift gator head.
@Sixbears3 жыл бұрын
I was at Big Cypress last year, but have no desire to hike it for any distance. Good for you. I went to see the wildlife and was not disappointed.
@johnalden58213 жыл бұрын
This is so cool, and so beautiful. I think you guys are major bosses for hiking through that. But this is the first time I have watched somebody hike a long distance trail and thought, "Watching the video is good. I don't think I need to actually do that." I can't understand how your feet were not totally rotting off by the end of that.
@WeOutHere3 жыл бұрын
What interesting terrain, completely different to what I’m used to hiking!
@saralopez1933 жыл бұрын
Omg... this is so relaxing to watch. Thank you for posting.
@ismaeliribar3 жыл бұрын
So happy to hear you loved Big Cypress. I feel the FT doesn't get enough love. But Florida is beautiful.
@bigfoot14653 жыл бұрын
Many years ago I lived in Whiteville NC, and spent a lot of time camping on the Waccamaw River. All those trees remind me of those younger days. We always went by small boats down river and never hiked through it. Had a couple encounters with what the locals called water rattlers. The guy I was with was a local that used to dealing with them and they never caused us any problems.
@evangelist22513 жыл бұрын
We hiked this 4 years ago and it was the dryest year in 40 years. We had 10 miles of 6-inch deep mud. The whole way I think the only water we saw was 1 car sized puddle. It was pretty cool but I can't imagine this being the coolest stretch of hiking if you've done the triple crown. Maybe it's just cause I live here that doesn't seem quite as exciting as hiking the Wind River range or the Sierras.
@guermeisterdoodlebug79803 жыл бұрын
I had pretty much given up television in favor of KZbin for my entertainment and education during the past year. Now that I have discovered Dixie the transition is complete. What a beautiful person.
@twwtb3 жыл бұрын
Watching you all hiking through the swamp. I got that song, "Polk Salad Annie" playing in my head. The gators got your granny.
@julsscarlett36813 жыл бұрын
It looked just like Dr. Seuss...Horton Hears a Gator. Great video! 😜
@kianna2703 жыл бұрын
dixie!! i would love to give you trail magic if you’re taking the way near orlando florida! i live in east orlando and part of the trail is pretty close by, unless you take the other way towards tampa and ocala. but if it you do, i hope to have the chance to make y’all a breakfast or something, your videos got me thru the loneliness of the pandemic ❤️ good luck on the florida trail!!
@jjf77753 жыл бұрын
My anxiety is through the roof watching this. I’m just waiting for a snake to pop out 😬
@HomemadeWanderlust3 жыл бұрын
Haha sorry!
@extremelydave3 жыл бұрын
Snake? Oh no, I was lookin' for that huge gator or a Chupacabra!!!!
@drewstephans34363 жыл бұрын
@@extremelydave Don't forget the pythons that have invaded the glades and go after anything that looks edible to them!
@paulgoeke7583 жыл бұрын
@@drewstephans3436Hiker Terminology: eaten whole by python- Blunt Wrap????
@BackpackingFlorida Жыл бұрын
Starting my Florida Trail Thru-hike in Jan of 23
@sillylilly47943 жыл бұрын
This is so exciting. This is one I don't think I would want to go alone. Bug spray is your best companion me think! I just love your take on everything. I can't wait for the next video.
@glyndaburton83963 жыл бұрын
So happy you are bringing positive attention to our state trail! - Good Witch
@kathleenbutler88793 жыл бұрын
My family had a hunt camp in the 60's, 70's and early 80's out there before the GOV designated the Big Cypress Preserve. The high spots where you camped are called "hammocks". We traveled out there by homemade swamp buggys. The best memories. Good to see it again. Thanks!
@cbmathews04403 жыл бұрын
Dam a lil snack tried to crawl up in the beginning there, how considerate of him
@john500543 жыл бұрын
2:58 Nice shot of some carnivorous Bladderworts (Utricularia). The leaves kind of float with bladders which do double duty by capturing small organisms.
@kylewaite90413 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if I was the only one who recognized these! They're super cool, and much less well-known than things like Venus fly traps or pitcher plants.
@VirginiaGeorge3 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard of butterwort but not bladderwort. Thanks for sharing!
@kathysmall36163 жыл бұрын
I just watched hopfrogg finish his southbound hike thru cypress swamp and it had dried up so much. Love the owl he looked mad at you. Lol can't wait to watch the rest of your journey.
@PetrozzaProductions3 жыл бұрын
Swamp cats are just gunna do their thing. Was asking myself why no water shoes until I saw that leech... Great vid. Makes me want to do a section. I've done the 88 to rodman and that was lovely!