This Hardwood Installs Easier Than Vinyl Flooring

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[@CraigRottman]

This video sold me on the flooring and I have since done lots of research that many may find helpful. The manufacturer is WellMade and was originally made in China but is now being made in Georgia as well. A good article on the person who developed this is a Feb. 7, 2022, article in FCNews. The product is privately labeled and different sellers use different names for the product line, color/finish, etc., but the same pictures and sometimes the same verbiage to describe it. It always come with 16.68 sq ft per box. It is 7 mm thick, 5" wide, and up to 4' long. It has a urethane/aluminium oxide finish. The wear layer / veneer (wood) is 1.2 mm (47.2 mil), the core is 5.8 mm (HDPC = high density polymer composite, which I believe is the same as SPC = stone polymer composite). The attached vinyl padding (I would call it rubber) is 1.0 mm. Jeff's link takes you to wayfair (Islander Flooring line). Other sellers that I found are - Home Depot (Optiwood line) - BuildDirect (Jasper/Varuna line) - Wallmart (Pacific Crest line) - Costco (Golden Arowana line) I have ordered samples from three of these sellers--they all have WellMade stamped into the attached padding/underlayment and the samples are all the same size. The color/wood/finish I have chosen is called honeycomb, countryside, sunglow, or frontier, depending on the seller (often given the number 71106). It is currently cheapest at Home Depot. I haven't bought mine yet--don't plan to install it until next year and plan to use it both in the basement (about 700 sq ft) and main level (about 511 sq ft). I looked into using a 6 mil moisture/vapor barrier and/or an additional separate underlayment (not sure I would call it a pad). Although several people say not to use an underlayment because one is already attached, there are some separate underlayments (rather hard and thin) that are made to go with such floors with attached pads. The risk of certain secondary underlayments would be too much give, which may cause the locking connection between the planks to wear down when the floor is walked on. I think Abatec that Jeff recommends (1.5 mm thick) is a good choice, as is Quietwalk by MP Global (2 mm). I think adding a 6 mil vapor barrier to a separate underlayment would be overkill. The advantage of one of these two separate underlayments would be sound deadening and thermal insulation, in addition to being a moisture barrier. One think several people recommend is using a PE backer rod (a spongey long thing with a circular crosssection, maybe 3/8" diameter) around the edges the rooms (where one would use spacers during the installation), topped with silicone caulk--I don't think Jeff talks about this and I'm not convinced it is worth it, except maybe in a kitchen or bathroom. This edging would allow the expansion/contraction of the floating floor but would attempt to prevent water going in along the edges (e.g., under the molding) and soak in/under the flooring.

[@atifrana917]

Great info! Thanks. Did you end up going with this? I'm looking at engineered wood for my 1000sqft basement in Illinois. I'm considering this as the labor should be much cheaper given the ease of installation.

[@natalinadalpe8454]

I love your sense of humour!!

[@nixalot9065]

Wait wha? This isn't that new. We installed floating engineered hardwood bamboo like three years ago. We love it and haven't had any issues. Super easy install and was much easier to snap together than when we did straight up vinyl, although the vinyl we got was some cheapo stuff where the lock system would fall apart if you looked at it wrong.

[@timsears553]

How does this click-lock hardwood compare to the water/scratch resistant laminates like Mohawk Revwood? I've used Revwod a couple times now and I'm very happy with its results even after a couple year's use, in both water resistance and scratch resistance.

[@misterx8592]

Jeff is my idol!

[@michaelsavich9348]

do you have to or have an option to stain and Polyurethane the floor?

[@kristineolver3268]

I'm currently trying to install plank flooring in a mobile home. I want it to run from the kitchen through the living room and down the hall seamlessly but I have a small wall between the living room and dining area that is causing me issues. On one side it is fine but on the other side I cant get things to line up correctly. I NEED HELP!!!!! I know that as a member there us an email address I should be able to use but I cannot find it or I'd send pictures.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

The flooring in this video is out of stock, but here is a similar product you can purchase: www.jdoqocy.com/click-9148559-14545641 Here is a comparable underlayment, like most building materials the cost has gone up since we originally filmed this video, AbaTec Underlayment: homedepot.sjv.io/e40rZO

[@jerrysweetable]

Where can I get this flooring in Canada? I don't see any links here or in the membership page.

[@PhilipHousel]

The Mrs renovision was a nice touch. I like project I can do with my Mrs too!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Cheers Phillip!

[@knocturna9731]

Comment what you’re installing? I don’t even have a house! 😩

[@richardlovell016]

Just about afford to run my car 😣

[@rocwyvern1101]

😂😂😂 It's ok! One day you will and you'll already have the knowledge to put into practice! 👍😄😄😄

[@jonathanvazquez8755]

I know , I’m about to install some in my car floor lol. Bring up the value of my car haha.

[@rocwyvern1101]

@@jonathanvazquez8755 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@andrajohnson3748]

I like you You make me feel like I can actually do some of this stuff. I'm buying this tomorrow and getting rid of the $2200 worth of tile I bought I have old vinyl, you know vinyl is final. Wish me luck. I'm going to need it. Thanks.

[@dicelady4]

Can you name the flooring brand information? I’m in MI and flooring stores here don’t have this type of product.

[@garciamicolta001]

Jeff, my wife and I are obsessed (in a non creepy way) with your channel. We've learned so much from you and want to thank you... flooring just so happens to be our next project.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Wow, thanks! Cheers Jon!

[@HarshPatel-yw5mf]

Hey Jeff, Once again very informative video. I am trying to install this kind of waterproof hardwood from homedepot. I have planked subfloor that was installed around 1955 .My current wood floor is squeaking a lot through out the house and I think that the 50 percent of the area in a room makes noise. Is there a way to install engineered hardwood over that old floor and eliminate the squeak ? or do you recommend removing the old wood floor, reinforce the subfloor and then install the new floor ? your opinion is appreciated. Thank you

[@Irene-ke6to]

How does the hardwood flooring handle water and heavy traffic? Scratch resistant? Or is this something that you just put in a bedroom with a big rug on top??

[@molfar9049]

it’s not new. been installing it for years. good option for condos. hardly a replacement for a hardwood.

[@InternetWarriorQwer]

Right, it's a 10 year floor not a 50 year floor like tile or hardwood.

[@Arteolike]

I thought he was going to show SPC Hardwood, here in US In the last year or so Stone Core with a real hardwood layer that’s finished in an Oxide is just coming on the market. It’s a ACH (durability rating) is 3/5 with regular hardwood around 2. It’s also water resistant and due to the stone core has about 70% less expansion and contraction as wood based stuff.

[@danielledeboer1915]

Are there any brands you can suggest I look at?

[@Zoyx]

How does this product handle water? In other words, can it be used in the kitchen with klutzy cooks?

[@ivet_deshazo]

Could you install this over existing tile?? One of the reasons we were going to go with LVP

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

as long as you use the underpad. Definitely!

[@lindastansbury2067]

I've been researching flooring for over a year and narrowed it down to hardwood or porcelain. I was on the verge of going with porcelain until I saw this video tonight. Now I'm off to researching engineered hardwood. I've been a fan for over two years and am so grateful to you for all of the invaluable knowledge you've shared. If I was near you, I'd hire you to remodel my entire house.

[@nywvblue]

Curious about the technology in the underlayment foam pad - I haven’t seen a foam product that doesn’t turn to dust in a decade or so. Are underlayments different?

[@RecklessTheory]

THey have a cork underlayment that will last a long time. The denser foam tend to last a long time too usually they are sold next to the other underlayments but are slightly more expensive and will look more smooth in texture.

[@nywvblue]

@@RecklessTheory Cork sounds very sensible. Thank you!

[@williamwright3735]

That board you beat in with the rubber mallet was horrendous. Between cutting the locking mechanism off and then having it that tight to the bottom plate of that wall leaving zero expansion especially in the direction the floor expands and contracts the most (the long length expands the least so those kerf cuts on the bottom you talked about in the beginning don't help that expansion).

[@michaelgoliszeski199]

Jeff we have dogs would we be better off installing vinyl flooring instead of wood?

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

yup!

[@bobfinnecy4231]

Jeff...love the “how to” videos! Thanks for bringing this one to us. Cheers from Orlando!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

My pleasure! Cheers Bob!

[@gekkogordon]

Too late!!! I saw your previous videos and I considered that vinyl was a better option (2nd option after hard wood) than other ones, because vinyl is waterproof, humidity resistant, and wear resistant. Also, does not expand or contract and contains iron particles in their manufacturing. Thus I bought already my waterproof luxury vinyl. I was wondering if engineered hard wood won't suffer the same destiny as laminate if water goes inside (deflection)?

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

it may expand but at least it will contract again when dry. not like laminate!

[@ehabrabadi120]

Well. I'm not planning to buy any kind of flooring... Just for the sake of the comment Good luck man or people.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Cheers!

[@89Astharot]

Yes i did used that in my whole new house 4 years ago. Previous house built 8 years ago was regular nailed hardwood, wayyyyyy easier with cliplock system. Nice trick for the end tips, didn't tought of cutting the lip. Was using prybar to move it and clip them. One question, if one of my plank in the middle of the kitchen uncliped, what are my options? i have a 1/4 inch gap appearing over winters thanks!

[@davidgiesfeldt6650]

Searching engineer click… fails. Very interested but not able to access via decorner

[@jamiespond5703]

PLEASE I want to know too !!! C'mon as a Canadian you are bound by law to help another Canadian in need. Check our constitution. (Our i'm a perma president lol, ) Christian Shifflett 14 hours ago Who makes this flooring? I don’t see it on your website so I’m curious.

[@jimbo2629]

If it’s difficult to flatten then planing the bead eases it. I used a jigsaw, workmate and clamps, and a sliding mitre saw. and a block plane. If you are sliding it under an obstacle like a toilet then you might need to but joint by cutting and planing off the click joint. Clamp boards before rip cutting.

[@cwshifflett7]

Who makes this flooring? I don’t see it on your website so I’m curious.

[@calishakes2860]

Looking for something to install over tile. I have dogs and children. Have a pool so water friendly would be nice. Was thinking some sort of vinal. Any recomendations

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

for wet areas vinyl is still the best option.

[@wideglide2153]

Yeah me too but I ran into this before and never found or received an answer. If you do let me know also please!

[@RossMalagarie]

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY is a link to the flooring product in the description?

[@QuinnTheVegan]

Hi Jeff, just joined as a member - you’ll see lots of questions from me in the forums about a 1905 miners cottage we’re remodelling :) I can’t see where one can buy this engineered hardwood. Checked your buyers club, website, even the forum!

[@samsonchan1488]

Floor and Decor carries this for those in the States. Beautiful product, durable, and a breeze to install.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Good to know!

[@ephraimschmitt3106]

What brand is this?

[@infiniti2015]

Agree. What brand and color is this?? Thanks.

[@1RungAtATime]

What's the brand name?

[@samsonchan1488]

@@ephraimschmitt3106 Hickory Snow Engineered Hardwood

[@thisoldbag8336]

That is impressive for hardwood floor products. I would be interested in knowing how durable this engineered product is. I have a race car dog with nails who would be able to volunteer his time. Seriously, that wood flooring looks great and easier install.

[@shefandben]

I was wondering the same thing about durability. My dog loves to zoom around the house and skid to a stop

[@alonzomartii]

Boss becomes corky around the woman of his life. 😸 After watching this video im applying to work at your company Boss. 🤞😊

[@nicholasmartinez4529]

The board that gave your son trouble would have been easier if the seam wasn't in line with the doorjam (no matter how much planning something always puts up a fight lol) but if the seam was 2-3inches inside of doorway It would have been alot easier cus then scribe to fit the rest of the board and install with a pull bar ....dont mind my" backseat driver armchair contractoring comment I love your videos and channel you do amazing work and the way you teach is awesome!

[@VC-Toronto]

And don't try to have it right against the bottom plate. There will be a layer of 1/2 inch drywall, and then baseboard, so they could easily leave a 1/2 inch gap.

[@twitch1965]

This is awesome! All the "updated" houses here in the SouthEast of the US is with that cheap LVT - yuck!

[@tompacker3384]

Thanks for this video, Jeff! I am sold and will be installing this product when the time comes. Also, thanks for keeping us in the loop down here in the U.S.!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Cheers Tom, Happy to help!

[@kirkyorg7654]

i don't consider it real hardwood flooring unless it can be refinished more than once but that is just me most homeowners wont care as they are not gonna be around when that becomes an issue it looks great but it wont last a lifetime or two like 3/4 in solid wood will great stuff for diy guys cool video

[@mehdinazari220]

Doesn't this flooring need expansion gap around the room?

[@kylekoenig4730]

He said 1/4 inch yes

[@mclyker]

How does it compare to vinyl for scratch and water resistance?

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Hardwood is great for protection against surface damage, however if you are installing in a wet area then vinyl is better!

[@shane250]

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Are you kidding? I took a key and couldn't scratch my LVP (That's how I decided on which model to choose, I did the key test to the store samples). If I'll do that to ANY hardwood I'm going to scratch it.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

that is just silly, no one is running around dragging metal on a floor.

[@shane250]

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Of course not, but people do accidently drop their keys on it, dogs walk on it, kids drag things on it... "Stuff" happens. Don't become subjective just because you started selling stuff. Your integrity is what got you your (rightful) fame and followers crowd. Just do a "this video was sponsored by..." Like other honest mega-channels. I know none of my business telling you what to do, but if you do sell stuff for partnership money, at least admit that there are cons to the product if they do exist.

[@khiemdee4573]

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY For rentals, you need something bulletproof.

[@TulipAcres]

We installed engineered hardwood in our first home. I’m sure we did a lot of things wrong. I don’t even remember putting down layment 😬 Some spots the flooring blistered (like under the dogs water bowl). Was that in part because we forgot the layment? I haven’t wanted to do engineered HW again because of that. I’m leaning towards unfinished HW for the price savings.

[@lost_ducks]

USA stills loves ya'll for helping our TEXAS

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

We will be there for anyone who needs us. Cheers!

[@Casper_Espresso]

Thanks for taking the time to film this for us. It would always be easier just to do the job, but taking the time to film, explain and walk us through makes a world of difference for people like myself.

[@KingoftheJiangl]

Can't find snap on engineered anymore. It all has LVP back instead of ply, and it doesn't have the cut out slits for flexibility. Jeff there something out there you recommend instead?

[@chriscolameco6850]

LL Flooring has this for $2.65/sqft (contractor account) Consumer it's a little above 3

[@davidcrandon2329]

Is this the flooring you mentioned in an older video that would "revolutionize" hardwood flooring?

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Yes. it is a quick lock floating hardwood that does not require fasteners. can be installed over any flat surface. Cheers!

[@davidcrandon2329]

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY So, at the time of the video. This was something relatively new? It seems that quick lock engineered hardwood floors are pretty easily found now though, correct?

[@Cyberdine.Systems.Model-101]

Hi Jeff. Would you prefer this flooring or LVT for a new build on concrete slab?

[@dandan6944]

I will never buy the engendered flooring, add few cents per square feet ( talking about 3rd grade) and get real hardwood floors, little bit more work but will last forever, you can send it up to 7+ times. Now that's add value to the property.

[@amandarodriguez7483]

can this be done over tile?

[@critterkarma]

Who makes this product? It looks like a solution for my project. And yes, I’m in the States.

[@michaelbuono9826]

lol

[@petermanuel5043]

Can you guys buy a concrete and tile based house in South America? I love watching your videos but they're not really relevant for me... 😅

[@samanthakitch4736]

How does engineered hardwood normally hold up in areas where the humidity stays between 17% & 25% if it rains? A few years ago I had Armstrong engineered hard wood, $5.88 sq ft flooring cost plus labor, installed in my condo. After 6 months some of the corners started to lift. The installer said he had never seen that happen and that I probably needed more humidity. The first floor was installed over concrete slab, glued together but floating. The second floor was nailed down. Both had this problem and in many places where it was nailed the surface was slightly raised but the layers were holding together. I sold the condo due to some circumstances and have no idea how they have held up since. After that I purchased a house fixer and have lived with plywood floors for 3 years and was hoping to finally install solid hardwood. After watching your videos and due to sudden price increases I had almost convinced myself to just do vinyl. I do not have a humidifier in my furnace and I do not have air conditioning but that is a story for another day. I just don't want to make a mistake. I do not want to have to tear my house up for flooring again so when it is done it needs to last.

[@johnwhite2576]

Ive had real hardwood, engineered and vinyl, laminate and ceramic appearing hardwood , and as town without dogs really needs to look closer at luxury vinyl (then again doors are hell on rugs and hardwood!) . You take risks whenever you place any real wood product on a slab, and NEVER in a basement unless you live on a hill in the desert ! The luxury vinyls are just so good today you really need to try one you can like before you take this risk. Now if you know you don’t live on clay, you have a commercial grade sub slab vapor barrier (Stego, Dorken etc) not just some poly from a big box store) that you personally sealed carefully , ensured slab pour didn’t penetrate, AND you have a whole house dehumidifer and an excellent sub slab drainage system, AND you lay sure go ahead, even in a basement , but obviously this will nto be the case for most homeowner , and what do you do when you have. Spills leak from water heater, burst pipe, backed up sump, rain floods ? Take you global flooring budget and consider the relative merits of wood, vinyl tile and carpet carefully ; and dont eb locked into oen type fo floor throughout the house.

[@rocwyvern1101]

When your wife appeared in the video, I gasped (coz I was surprised and didn't expect her to appear a long while after the start of video) and smiled! 😄😄😄 You both make such a great pair and, boyyy, she's hilarious!!! 😂😂😂 Her reaction after kissing you was so funny and adorable! The smile she had! It shows she loves you so dearly! My eyes started tearing 😆😆😆 I laughed so much!!! 😆😆😆And I really loved what you teached! I don't have a house, yet I loooovvveee learning about everything related to building and renovating them! Great knowledge that will come very handy one day! I can't thank you enough for teaching us all what you know! 💜

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Cheers Roc!

[@rocwyvern1101]

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Cheers to you and the Mrs!

[@michaels840]

I used a different manufactured wood product, though it was quite similar. When sliding a locked board in place you can use a small cut board (sacrificial piece) to tap it into place. No gaps and you don't risk breaking the end locking mechanism.

[@ivettehi1250]

I have seen some videos of glue being placed on the subfloor then placing the hardwood. Which is better glue or insulation pad

[@blaster-zy7xx]

I was laying half inch engineered hardwood and some of the planks were a bit warped, so I set my circular saw to cut through about half the thickness and cut a series of cross cuts every 3-4 inches to allow the board to lay flat. Then I saw this product, and they did it already for you. And yes, pre-painting the door trim and baseboard and laying it on top of the floor after the flooring is down is the only way to go.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

some folks think this is old tech...but they have no idea how much better this stuff is than that old engineered click.

[@blaster-zy7xx]

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Thanks. Was was looking for something like this a while back, but my job is done now. My only concern with a floating floor is that I can tell in about 3 steps if the floor is floating or not. It doesn't have that solid glued down or nailed down "thud" when walking on it. It is more of a give away when dogs walk on it with their clicking claws. I glued my engineered hardwood mainly because it was adjacent to tile set on a concrete slab and the tile is like rock. I didn't want that transition from sold rock feel to a hollow sound/feel. I'm happy with the results, but it was much slower and more labor intensive to glue it all down to the slab. I would definitely use your product in a condo or smaller house.

[@Melluminati1]

On a few of your earlier videos, you sold me on considering vinyl. Now im torn..LOL

[@pranjal86able]

Personally, I prefer the Vinyl flooring over this one. Love your channel and work. Thanks

[@jokay6375]

After trying a dozen of vinyl samples, went with engineered hard wood (white oak). The main reason was the feel and look that i got from hardwood, and like you said, high end vinyl products could cost the same and hard wood! I guess vinyl would be good for basement projects where humidity or water could be an issue. Thanks for all your valuable recommendations.

[@TRIPONTHIS]

Is it in Stock now. Hard to see the samples in Warfare can I view them anywhere in OTTAWA?

[@alistkz]

I want it installed in my house now !!!!!

[@francksaysana]

Whaaat! I was looking for this kind of product everywhere. Wood, no nails and glue and bang, you bring that up! Thanks Jeff !

[@deanlang3894]

Well, looks like someone has to go see Human Resources for sexual harassment.. 😂😂😂

[@amtakach]

Jeff, all of your videos are awesome, thank you. Wondering what you think of waterproof laminate vs. LVP vs. this engineered hardwood. I installed LVP in our last home a few years ago, but it scratched up easily and even buckled/cracked in some areas. We are buying a new home, and so I'm wondering if the waterproof laminate would be more durable. How's the water resistance of this engineered HW?

[@ilyabibik588]

Thank you for the video. With this type of installation how should I handle transition to the stears that go down?

[@kmw4359]

What about installing on slab, and what about if you install in-floor heating over the slab then want to put something like this on top? (I’m assuming a plywood subfloor would be necessary to protect the in-floor heating piping from being crushed by furniture, people walking, etc.)

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

you can use electric floor heat systems with this no problem

[@cney2125]

$4 USD sq ft? Jesus

[@lukelopez3094]

Look up Purple Heart hardwood floor

[@jeannie8262]

it would be nice to get the links of the products used ? not the similar product ?😔😳

[@matthewmoroni3500]

That piece you cut the tongue off on both side could you not glue it down or is it not needed

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

could if you want to .

[@h3lio5]

I like to do the floors before doors and trim. A lot easier to hang a door than mess about with cutting around them and trying to make it look good.

[@dwrenn32]

Do you have to apply anything else to seal it like you would other hardwood products?

[@beverleyspugsandhomestead.]

Vinyl but reconsideration now!

[@pdv3526]

Great tips esp when using the saws as well as that last row

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Cheers!

[@haileykierse4378]

Hi, I am going to install a hard wood engineered floor. The seller says the planks are tongue and grove but with 'butt ends. Do I need to do anything different when we have butt end install.? Thanks Hailey ( Dublin, Ireland)

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Hi Hailey! this video is a engineered floating floor video. I have a hardwood flooring video that is a better guide for you. Your flooring will have 2 sides tongue and 2 sides groove and slides together and then you add a fastener. Cheers!

[@Ookpic]

Hey Jeff Love the channel! I'm really interested in this product but I'm curious how resilient it is compared to actual nail down engineered floor? We recently did our entire main floor with nail down engineered. Even wrestling with the dog on it doesn't scratch at all. We'd like to save a bit of money for the second floor but not at the cost of durability if ya know what I mean. Thanks!!

[@ryans.8294]

Installed Bruce engineered hardwood in my dining room about 15 years ago. The click lock was easy and it still looks great.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

glad to hear it. Bruce is not known to make quality products.

[@brucemiller9493]

I don't see the advantage over vinyl. Is is scratch and water resistant like vinyl? Can't sand it down the road like real wood either. Don't get the "game changer' vibe. Love your videos though.

[@shane250]

100% Correct! And usually, sanding+restaining cost more than new LVP per sq ft.

[@antonioakiki3716]

@@shane250 it adds more value for resale as you can say you have hardwood floors

[@shane250]

@@antonioakiki3716 Saying you have a worst performing floor finish adds value. Did I get it right?

[@rrk069]

@@shane250 ironical but yes

[@somethinghandle]

@@shane250 might be regional but seems many times in US if you say you have vinyl flooring people scrunch their faces and walk away if it’s a buyers market. In a sellers market they’ll buy anything. In personal experience, people have no idea the differences between flooring (we do obviously since we’re on this channel) but everyone sees looks at price not performance for different scenarios such as pets or water

[@vincentcarriere4716]

Jeff, who makes this product? Why keep it a secret? I'm from Ottawa as well and would love to get this product. Thanks!

[@GregTGolden]

Judging by the CE tags on the side of the box, its made in china. Can probably get it just about anywhere

[@codykiroff5078]

Is it as rugged as vinyl? I’ve got pets and young kids so I love the idea of waterproof and super durable vinyl.

[@johnjingleheimersmith9259]

It's wood. So no. Wood is never as waterproof or durable as plastic can be.

[@RyanAllendorf]

Great product. Thanks for showing us. Looks awesome! And it protects the pine flooring underneath. It's a win, win!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

You bet!

[@brandonmarthinsen5493]

Can this be installed over existing engineered hardwood?

[@DeeTee79]

I wish they hadn’t edited what happened at 7:10. It would have been helpful to see how he fixed it.

[@Cordoba78]

I installed traditional hardwood flooring because the prior homeowner bought it and never installed it. I put it in and regret every second of it.

[@perotinofhackensack2064]

Can you tell me why?

[@lebronjameslol3521]

Good idea taking the door trim off and trimming it rather than going with oscillating saw which will produce a gap that cant really be avoided. Also good tip on screwing first row down. Last time I did a floor right towards the end I noticed it had moved about a inch. Luckily got it back in place. This stuff does look a lot nicer than laminate.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

definitely!

[@KaaFOFO]

Freehand cutting on a table saw. You brave brave soul.

[@kirkyorg7654]

not brave just experienced if your afraid of the saw then get lessons from a pro before you use one saw blades only cut what is pushed into them they don't chase fingers down lol

[@KaaFOFO]

@@kirkyorg7654 Yes experience will definitely help in situations like this. I've made plenty of cuts that are considered sketchy to beginners. No matter how much experience you have though there's always a risk when using a machine against what it was designed to do. Bottom line is table saws were never meant to be used freehand. I appreciate that Jeff mentioned kickback. The riving knife was doing the real work here to prevent kickback while he did the longer cuts. Kickbacks are the real enemy, not pushing your fingers into the blade like you suggested. Reason being that kickback usually draws your hand toward the blade as the piece rotates and faster than a person can react.

[@gidieupp]

Steller floors

[@smncowardyahoo]

Was thinking sheet vinyl (LINO), waterproof properties being a factor. This product looks a great alternative.......

[@virajs31]

Wher can i buy these flooring

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Decorner.com or Use our Wayfair link.

[@jerrybowen1635]

Can it be refinished? Your better half seems like such a sweetheart.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

if you want to refinish a floor then buy real solid hardwood. This is a 40 year floor if treated well.

[@number1pappy]

I'm seriously interested in this flooring! I have 1950 square feet of floor that is going to need this in about a month if everything goes right! Lol! Regardless of if we meet our deadline or not I will be purchasing flooring. I hope you can figure out how to make it available to us in the states!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Done. Decorner just launched the Decorner .com site and Wayfair also carries this product.

[@number1pappy]

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY thanks 😊!!

[@connormatthews8989]

Im thinking of installing flooring myself, I watch these videos from the UK and what I can't understand, is how this flooring is $5.29 sq ft. In the UK flooring is at least £20-40 sqm for anything like this quality, this sort of product doesnt even exist in the UK!

[@markhoffman]

A bit overzealous on this one. This isn't even close to hardwood. This garbage will end up in the landfill in less than 30 years. Real hardwood can last over 100 years. I wouldn't put this in a home. Maybe a mobile home or something. Seriously...people are guzzling $25 bottles of wine every couple days but they won't spend on a good hardwood floor. Priorities.

[@johnsanford3596]

Complete and total cringe with your insanely dangerous tablesaw technique. That saw came with a guard (yes, it's a mediocre guard) and FENCE for a reason. Use them. You provided a lot of really good tips otherwise.

[@TheTechGuider]

Pretty sure engineered hard wood has existed for a while now. Even in the click lock..

[@chriscalon8913]

I installed it two years ago. Not sure why this is considered new.

[@shane250]

To sell his own product.

[@stevog4422]

I love engineered flooring. The best I’ve used so far is Kahrs made in Sweden. It’s 5/8” thick with an 1/8” wear layer. But the best part is that it has an end lock mechanism to keep the ends nice and tight. It’s called 5S click lock.

[@craigthibodeau324]

Cutting that piece by the door so it is so tight (that he had to hammer it in) against the bottom plate of the wall is just dumb. No matter how little this stuff expands/contracts, putting it in that tight is just begging for problems. He's going to have at least 1/2" of drywall plus that 3/4" baseboard - he could have left an inch gap and wouldn't have had a problem. Not leaving at least a half inch is reckless. This channel has so many excellent videos with so much great information but then the straight up dumb moves like this turn me off. It's like 99% great, 1% pure cringe bad advice.

[@shane250]

I'm gonna stay with LVP. Handles traffic better, has almost 0 wear, great for pets, and waterproof. I'm trying to avoid wood at all costs, not just because of the price now, but the longevity and maintenance would cost you so much more in the long run.

[@ThanhTran-qq6xm]

I just don’t understand what’s the benefit for “Wood” flooring. Yes real wood is a beautiful material but real living practicality it’s horrible. I have installed LVP for my house from a brand called Flooret. It’s been four years now and my vinyl literally looks the same as it was the first day.

[@shane250]

​@@ThanhTran-qq6xm Yep, same here. 5 years, 2 dogs, clumsy wife (drops a knife at least twice a week)...And the floor looks brand new. Plus, you can clean it with whatever detergent/method you want, and use as many water as you desire. Vinyl planks can have a wood look if someone like wood. But they have them in click-lock tile shapes now as well. And just refinishing your hardwood after 5-15 years (depending on the kind of traffic) will cost more per sq ft than installing new LVP. Hardwood has literally 0 advantages. Next week we are replacing our deck with a "Rubacrete" porch. 0 maintenance, waterproof, 10 year commercial/20 year residential warranty...It will actually outlast concrete. And the best thing is, it cost only 20% more than a cedar deck (in today's market). Same thing with a lawn. Look at how to establish a microclover lawn. Only needs 4 mowings/year, drought resistant, and cost 40$ per 500 sq ft to do by yourself. Needs watering only on the first 3 weeks...and then NEVER (Unless you had a drought longer than 4 weeks). I live in canada. Wood as an exterior material makes even less sense here...But everyone seems to have it for some reason. What I usually do for exterior wood that is still in good condition, is sealing it with a clear truck bed liner. It lasts about 7-8 years. Exterior wood paint lasts 2 years here if you're very lucky.

[@dicelady4]

Sorry to say.... vinyl is vinyl. It’s thin , doesn’t absorb sound and looks like vinyl. Wood feels better to walk on , it doesn’t allow an echo in the room And it adds value$$ when you sell.

[@shane250]

@@dicelady4 1. Vinyl is vinyl is a blank statement. 2. Wood feels better? IDK, I usually wear slippers in winter and socks in the summer, because I like having clean feet at all times. 3. If you have an echo in your rooms... You don't have enough furniture there. I have no echo in my house, and it's all LVP. 4. Value to whom? I'd pay more for a house full of LVP (not sheets or stickers) over hardwood. Most will probably not, but that's just because they have never seen LVP and think vinyl is all sheets\stickers. 5. Sound proofing is all about the insulation between the joists and the underlayment.

[@MSeroga]

Wow your tablesaw has a long wind-down time, maybe because it's not dewalt? :)

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

you get what you pay for. Cheers! But it works great for the price!

[@sparks3705]

I don't know, Jeff. I'm currently building my own home and plan on using SPF throughout. Mainly because of the kitchen and bathroom. I don't think the hardwood can compare to SPF in those areas. While I love the look and feel of hardwood, SPF is looking and feeling very nice nowadays... and still cheaper (especially when doing a whole house).

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

worth considering the effect of hardwood on resale value. Cheers!

[@sparks3705]

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Yeah for sure. However, I plan on retiring in this house, but I can see the potential for resale in using the hardwood.