Is the HD58X a BAD Headphone?!

[@HomeStudioBasics]

What do YOU think about the 58X? ⌚ Timestamps ⌚ ================ Build/Comfort - 0:36 Sound - 2:55 Soundstage/Gaming - 7:36 Amplification - 9:50 Genre - 10:48 Final Word/Rap/Outro - 11:45

[@DocRealTalk]

Hi, I'm trying to decide between these, the HD 6XX and the HD 560S Do you know how they compare in games? Which has the best soundstage and positional audio?

[@deadxobbit]

9:20 Jeez, I almost spit my tea out. On a serious note, thanks for making great content in both text and video formats, very educational and entertaining! I've been monitoring my local marketplaces for a used pair of HD600/6xx/58x a couple months go, but after doing my research I ultimately decided to go for a more budget option in the form of SHP9500 mostIy because I don't have a DAC/AMP setup yet. I'm pretty satisfied with SHP9500s atm coming from years of using Sennheiser HD215 II and Porta Pros, yet I'm still eyeing for an iFi Zen v2 + HD600 combo as a potential personal end-game.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Lmao I was wondering how that one would go down because I didn't really lol when I was making it. It's funny because some of the stuff I think is hilarious can go either way as far as people who think it's equally as funny vs. those who don't comment on it. And sometimes it's the stuff that I just do and don't react to that others really love. 😂 9500 is great! Zen V2/600 would be awesome as well down the road. Check this series out as it should help: homestudiobasics.com/ifi-zen-vs-zen-v2-upgraded/

[@deadxobbit]

@@HomeStudioBasics Haha, I get what you mean :) I personally enjoy "reference style" humor, the one that makes you go like DiCaprio in that Rick Dalton pointing at the screen meme, lol, give an audible chuckle or spit out your drink because of the sheer unexpectedness of it. I appreciate that kind of nods to movies and other media you use in your content. I actually picked up a used pair of HD600s recently for a reasonable price and waiting for Zen DAC to be delivered at the time of writing this. Managed to find a used v1 with a PS4 update compatible serial and an iPower for the price of new one. I know that general consensus is that Zen DAC is fine with 5V via USB 3.0, but I figured that I'd benefit from cleaner power source, since I have not so modern PC and it's a more efficient way for running Zen, I believe, since it provides 12.5W of power vs 4.5W via USB3.0. Especially while using my phone as a source via OTG cable without draining the battery.

[@esbenrasmussen4289]

I have these and DT990 @ 250 and the HE4XX and SHP9500 - Basically the YT recommended set. I use DT990 for home use on my desktop for gaming and listening to music. The 58x on my iphone when I am out. I tried using them for gaming, and it was nice, but when switching back to the DTs I was blown away like when I heard them the first time. I guess I prefer V shape over flat : ) I appreciate your take on snakeoil topics, thanks for the vids and for being reasonable : )

[@HomeStudioBasics]

You're welcome man!

[@agrisimfarming]

Is there a noticeable difference with the 58x on your amp vs your iphone? I did some research and the apple dongle (US version) should be able to drive these to 104 db at max, but I haven’t tried it. My dt 770 pro 80 ohm requires 60-65% volume to listen to comfortably if that helps at all (Max volume is way too loud)

[@ikipearl]

was looking forward to your opinions on the Meze 109 Pro

[@mores_hitt]

the "graininess of the hd58x comes from a peak somewhere between 4khz and 5.5khz. if you lower it by 4-5 db with eq you can make the headphone more tolerable if this peak annoys you.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Awesome!

[@frankwhite2230]

I am currently listening on the 58X, they sound great with the Dragonfly Red, makes them a little brighter. I also have the 4XX which sound better with the Zen stack, and Grado SR80e and I don't think any of them are endgame for me, I will be taking a deeper plunge say under $500 soon enough, any recommendations? I knew it was you Stu, you broke my heart.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

YOU'LL GO DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE AND YOU'LL LIKE IT!!

[@HomeStudioBasics]

To upgrade you'll probably want an Ananda and that's a bit over.

[@frankwhite2230]

@@HomeStudioBasics I'll dig the fuckin hole. what is it, first hole I dug?

[@konna200]

@@HomeStudioBasics I have Ananda and i can confirm that it is solid option for the money bc its now just 550-600€ straight from the Hifiman support... They can give you a little discount too or open boxed...

[@konna200]

Zen Stack & Ananda = Bliss of the Soul man!

[@Trix_Rabbit]

How was the stock cable vs balanced cable specifically on the ifi zen dac with the 58x? Was the difference irrelevant except the volume knob level? Or did it actually give the headphones more body or any extra detail? Cheers, great review!

[@danalforque6651]

Thanks for this man!! Love the reviews... Please do more with good health.. wisihing prosperity to you and your channel! Cheers! 🍻

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Thank you man! Much appreciated :) Same to you and yours!

[@VicharB]

Have them and love them. For the price it is unbeatable. Additionally I am now looking at the new 700 Pro X, not having the closed ones. For gaming I use Sennheiser GameOne open back, perfect for me. For bluetooth I rock the PXC 550-II.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Really enjoyed the 58X more than I thought I would! I would agree with your "For the price unbeatable" but ... been demoing the 400se and .. yeah. :)

[@ScourgedCoyote]

Hey there! I’m worried I bought these too quick lol! I have a pair for FiiO fd5s and am worried I’m going to be dissapointed I the soundstage and sound quality, I’m going to be running them out of a FiiO k11

[@BoomBang101]

How are these compared to the x2hr?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

First off, nice avatar lmao. Check this beat out I did way back when it has a Thomas the tank engine pic soundcloud.com/xtra-base-hitz/all-aboard-outro-my-page-is-about-to-get-weird-lol 😂😂😂 As far as your question, X2HR is definitely trebly-ier. LOl. A little less neutral than 58X and more fun (read: slammier wammier bass), but actually surprisingly similar headphones.

[@BoomBang101]

@@HomeStudioBasics lol you said the same thing a few months back! I have a fiio ek10 with a micro USB cable will it be enough to power both of them?

[@wesleyleigh4063]

The problem I found was the dip in the highs at 4.5k and 5.6k. After around 3-4 weeks of use I just found everything sounded slightly rolled off, or rather just lacking in that region. The only other headphone in this price range that doesn't have this problem is the Hifiman He400SE, so i'd personally recommend them - I swapped to them right after the 58X and felt they were superior

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Nice!

[@kevinrams]

Good review, excellent outro with the beats. How dem grandkids doing?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Thanks bro! Doing well! They wanted to go to the park today but Grandpa is tired and old LOL.

[@stevendavis1135]

Just broughy my mom these headphones for her birthday thanks to this review ❤ thanks stu

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hope she likes 'em!

[@stevendavis1135]

@HomeStudioBasics actually talking to my mom on the phone as I type this message. She absolutely adore them stu. Brought her a schiit magni hersey amp to go with them.

[@mrfrosty3]

Another quality video! I think I would like that headphone quite a bit.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Thanks my friend. Yeah it's not bad! Got its flaws but still a decent choice although I'd probably just go 6XX as mentioned. :)

[@DaveTheBird]

Great review, I am over 55 so my ears are not as great as your's I am guessing, and I only started on headphones when I was about 45, but I have had the 580, 600 & 650 but sold them all as they really needed good amps to drive them (and I am to lazy for all that now and prefer straight plug in to phone, laptop or a small DAP). I have then had the 660s 560s and 58x, I only kept the 58x, but kind of miss the 660s. The soundstage on the 560s is great as you say, but I find it pretty good on the 58x which I find a bit more detailed sounding than the 560s (but as per above my ears may be a bit shot though due to age etc.). I am guessing the 6xx needs a fair bit of power to drive it like the 600 (really liked this, very detailed, with a good amp, but a bit closed in feeling for me) & 650. The only thing that may get me back into amps is that I saw Drop is doing a HD 800 (8x or something) version, now I would love to hear that one, or second best a review by you :)

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey man! Yeah the 6XX even at double the impedance still isn't terribly hard to drive which is what I've always loved about 600 series headphones. It's funny you mention SS on the 58X because it can and will give you more out of your head moments than you'd expect. For instance, yesterday I was just watching a skate video and it honestly felt like something was going on in my apartment lol. I had to double check it. Then it happened again with something totally separate just a few minutes later. Def a solid choice for gamers imo.

[@mrfr3d33x]

Hi! Akg 702 or 58x for gaming? Tnx

[@HomeStudioBasics]

I like K702 over 58X but 58x isn't a bad gaming headphone by any means.

[@2134yanto]

Hey Stu. Another great review. You mentioned that the AKG K702 handles classical music better than the HD58X. Does that apply to full orchestral pieces or did you mean the more acoustic pieces such as string quartets etc? I’m interested in buying the one that would be best for all classical. Cheers mate!

[@VeeHausen]

New mic? Sounds so smooth and creamy....yummy! :D

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Nah same mic lol just actually positioned correctly lmao. XD thanks! I really like how it sounds as well. Excited about new setup and more changes coming! May get another XLR condenser and interface as I had to sell my stuff awhile back. Had the Yeti since 2016-2017 :)

[@Jobfinisher]

Your videos are really fun to watch. Also it's not my place to comment but your short haired version is definitely much more handsome :D

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Heh. Thanks man! Thinking about getting a haircut. It's been almost 2 years!

[@mohamedomer6134]

For the past 2 years hd58x are my main and only open back headphones.🤷🏽‍♂️

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Nice! Can def see why :) I enjoyed them a lot more than I thought I would based on some things I heard.

[@happyloaf]

Thoughts on the tygr 300r?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey man haven't heard that one yet but want to try it out :0)

[@happyloaf]

@@HomeStudioBasics Do it! I can't tell if it is great or terrible. I like it but it is fatiguing. The HD6XX is my other headset and I LOVE how smooth it is. I know some do not like the "veil" but for what I listen to (alt rock, older rock, mostly) it is fantastic. I can lose myself in it for hours.

[@himanshutiwari90]

Something tells me hd660s will tickle your spot.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

OH BEHAVE!!!!

[@ikipearl]

12/2023 $139 .. I also bought Philips SHP9500 when they were $79. I swap between the two, it let's me appreciate Sennheiser's sound signature. I enjoy the sound of both and I still have a few bucks in my wallet🤘

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Both are good although I like 6XX better than 58X.

[@adinhell]

Rap outro is back baby!!

[@HomeStudioBasics]

HEHEHEH

[@loyalopposition-us]

58x not technically perfect, but one hell of a fun time. I really enjoy mine. For gaming I actually prefer my HD599s because they stay comfortable literally all day long and sound very good, but for music my Jubilees have a permanent home downstairs next to my stereo and CD collection.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Yes they were way better than I was expecting, especially for gaming!

[@Pablito5614]

Honestly these headphones are trash without the proper mod. You need to remove both inner and outer foams and put a thinner material on the inner, I used a circle cut out of black legging, leave the outer area open. Then they become amazing, the detail comes through, bass muddyness cleans up, the sub bass becomes distinguishable, midrange sounds even better and treble sparkles up a bit, the sound stage opens up a bit too. I tried so many times with the foams on and off and there's definitely a real difference, if you leave the foams on this headphone its way too muddled by the warmth and the only thing u hear clearly is the mids and that's why the vocals sound too forward. When you do the simple mod it's becomes like a super saiyan version of itself, trust. They became my favorite headphone under the $250 range after this.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Cool!

[@Pablito5614]

@@HomeStudioBasics No, you're cool.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Some say so. 😂

[@paolozafra5499]

Agree, I don't notice any grainy treble with these mods.

[@jdavis234]

Grado sr-60 + Zune is my endgame

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Nice!

[@KarthikeyanRamaswami]

I have all HD6XX , HD600 and HD58X. My choose is HD600 and it’s my ENDGAME.

[@Mr.Deeds.]

how about the HD660s? and 560s?

[@KarthikeyanRamaswami]

I haven’t tried those and I don’t want to go into that rabbit hole. I am happy with HD600 and it’s exactly what I needed. The sound Signature is neutral , smooth and non-fatigue. I could listen it for hours and it’s the only headphone brought smile

[@Mr.Deeds.]

@@KarthikeyanRamaswami I could say the same for the 560s. :)

[@Tripokaridos22]

I have all HD5 and HD6 line also the 58x and 6Xx. First off all HD6 line is technically better than 58x and 560s . 58X has closer signature to hd6 line but lose on most parts but for price are nice. HD560s arw the most different of all they are not warm smooth like HD6 line and soundstage its not nice small in your head like HD6 line that vocals are like singer is in front of u, on 560s its more on distance on open stage. Between 600 650 660s its all about taste honestly.... 600 are the most neutral most in your face, 650 are the smooth king the most forgiving relaxing that old recordings spund great. At the end my personal Favorite the HD660s that has something from them all they have amazing detail but keep some smoothness , they are for sure the faster tighter of them all , also the bass is like HD600 tight and not so warm like 650 also it goes lower a bit , But the Biggest 660s Advance from them all by FAR is the imaging and sepperation , I have Sundara 2020 version and trust me 660s imaging is a better . So at the end it depends by what u want . Some prefer 600 tight neutral sound some 650 warm slower forgiving sound and Some 660s that has characteristics from both of them and way bettwr imaging. But make no mistake if u like 650 smoothness ans want upgrade on that 660s is not better , also if u need 600 neutrality also 660s is not better on that. HD660s is great on everything but not perfect on something , its like u have 1 headphone to do everything ok.

[@KarthikeyanRamaswami]

@@Tripokaridos22 Z(Zeos) Review and many other say that 58X = (90% of HD660s) if you remove the 58X's padding covering the driver. I also tried removing the outer padding of 58X and the sound stage widen a lot. Also the instrument separation & overall sound improved a lot. Gaming community acknowledged this and this small MOD in 58X helps a lot. Did you try the MOD and compare it with HD660s sound ? I don't own HD660S, so I can't confirm.

[@davidasher22]

How are your grandchildren?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Lol they wanted to go to the park but it's too hot for old grandpa lmao.

[@harackmw]

Caught us a delicious bass indeed...

[@HomeStudioBasics]

CHYEAH!!!

[@SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

Bought them, used them for 2-3 months and sold them. Hated them for gaming.

[@4850937]

58X sounds the same as the SHP9500 so far. I equalized the highs with oratory1990 EQ settings. I will sell 1. They're for studying. I was told they should be mid-centric. They don't need to play music well.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Nice!

[@FatNorthernBigot]

How are your grand children?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Fantastic although today it's too hot to go outside even though they are begging me to go to the park. LOL.

[@FatNorthernBigot]

@@HomeStudioBasics they're just after some form of audio inheritance.

[@Spyrozzz]

First ... for the first time

[@HomeStudioBasics]

YOU WIN..... nothing. Haha jk. Great to see you around man!

[@AnarchistSupreme]

Review is spot on. Not sure I would recommend them for gaming. The soundstage on the 58x and 6xx is too narrow in gaming situations. Compared to the 4xx which will give you some very nice detail and more of a 360 feel with how wide it performs would be much better in my experiences.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Thanks man! I actually thought they were surprisingly decent for gaming and I've experienced some out of my head moments but def not something I'd personally use long-term for that or anything. Like it's one to consider I guess, but ultimately I'm going to go with something else based on what I've heard. For instance, it's better than a 600/650 for sure, but falls short vs. the others.

[@Clout_chasing_boy]

Imo its not a good hp. Too muffled and bloated. Much prefer 560s.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Thank you!

[@bennyride]

I hope you didn't get syrup on them, that rap🤣

[@HomeStudioBasics]

LMAO. What rap. I didn't do that. It was my friend Hillbilly Bob.

[@ikipearl]

are you in jail? need money for commissary?

[@prabinpaudel5572]

58x is for Prabin. Send it to me! 😉

[@HomeStudioBasics]

YOU DON'T TALK BACK TO ME!!!

[@prabinpaudel5572]

@@HomeStudioBasics Mr. Stuart would you please send me the 58x? Pretty please... 😌😌😌

[@teighan7829]

Love my HD58X

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Glad you're enjoying man!

[@MacReady69]

I'm sorry I bought the 58X! Narrow soundstage and not one to consider for gaming imho. They are not a patch on the 600's or 660's. On the new setup for videos, I find the lighting a bit off. Excellent outro though 👍😃

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Cool! Yeah still messing around with lighting. Thanks!

[@MegaVector2011]

No one can see headphones when they are a top of your bonce, so should us humanoids pontificate vis-a-vis looks? I would suggest... 'erm, I'm not sure.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

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[@MegaVector2011]

@@HomeStudioBasics 🎧🙉👂👍

[@busywl69]

They are great for gaming, which Is the sole reason I use them.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Yes I was pleasantly surprised that they are a bit better for gaming than the 600/650/6XX. I think the worst out of the lot is def 600 gaming wise.

[@fluffykitten517]

I wipe my ass wth these the valour pads work fantastic as toilet paper

[@h-dawg6462]

such a waste. i use mine to wash my windows with warm soapy water!

[@cxmxc]

Placebo. English man.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

😂