Massdrop HD58X Jubilee Review

[@amirkhalid5449]

Here's my take on the importance of a pair of headphones' looks: when I'm wearing them, I can't see them. So I don't care.

[@muna5066]

If I'm paying a certain amount. It should look ok too. Shouldn't be the focus but it should look good

[@thespanishinquisition7560]

true, but others can. your comment just means that you, personally don't wear headphones in public.

[@WilliamEccleston]

@@thespanishinquisition7560 why would you care if other people think it looks good? Are you 12?

[@mpamphsphoenix4402]

@@WilliamEccleston Seriously ? Everyone cares about the looks... People like u also do but dont axcept it. All the world its about the looks...Cars , Woman, Man, mobile phones, clothes, headphones, even the youtube videos its all about the looks. Everything in life is about how they look ... A nice place for vacations just evwrything.

[@WilliamEccleston]

@@mpamphsphoenix4402 yeah, your personal taste. Nobody gets something because it looks better to other people. If it looks good to you it's fine. You sound vain as hell

[@JoshuaValour]

VIDEO CORRECTION - According to massdrop website From Christian Tanimoto III.COLLABORATIONS - "This driver is closely related to the driver in the new HD660S. EDIT: Same size (both 38mm as confirmed by Sennheiser), same materials, there are some differences in the damping scheme and driver housing." Regarding saying these sound more like 6** Series than 5** series - This comment was made in comparison to the CURRENT 5** and 6** line up. Not the old one. I am well aware the 580 came before 600 (yall can relax now lol)

[@waldschratwicht]

The 660S has the driver from the HD700. The 580X has same drivers than 600 and 650. But with other damping. All three have 38 mm. But the Jubilee has 150 Ohm. Like the 660S. 600 and 650 are 300 Ohm.

[@xXCrazyxNoobxX]

Magnet and driver backing is from the HD 555. Diaphragm is from god knows where.

[@Assimilator702]

waldschratwicht No. The driver in the 58x is related to the HD700 and 660S driver. Hint.....150 ohm impedance is the glaring and obvious clue which the 660S uses.

[@xXCrazyxNoobxX]

@@Assimilator702 Same voice coil impedance does not mean that it's using the same driver

[@dhruvmeena96]

HD580 came back in 1991 and it is tuned nearly same to the old one

[@redduck680]

I’ve been waiting for someone to make a good review of theses! Thanks Josh!

[@EtaParseids]

Got mine a few months ago, and I LOVE them. I would have to agree with you 100% on your analysis of how they sound. Super detail oriented, not the widest sounding. I switch between these and the Hifiman 4XX that I also got. Between those two headphones, I am very very happy with my listening experiences. Though I may need to get a slightly more powerful amp to really push the 4XX. Love your content, keep up the great work!

[@dnd6379]

Can you describe a bit more how they compare? I have the HE 4XX as well, powering them with an Aune X1S.

[@megazine]

I own the 650 (6xx), 4xx, AKG 7XX and the 58X. In my opinion (preference) the 58X just sounds superior to all of them. In terms of a more fair comparison, the 58X sounds very close to the 6XX but the bass on the 58X is superior. The music just sounds very full and very enjoyable. On Massdrop and Head-Fi, everyone is praising this set; nobody fully understand why a headset for $150 sounds arguably superior to $500 headsets or equally as good. In my opinion it’s more enjoyable than my 6XX, which lacks in bass. Must own

[@davidmason8212]

megazine Because of the similar driver of 58x to the 660s I do not think that the 58x has the same smoothness in sound do you agree with me ? And regarding the bass is it analytical like the m50 or boomy like the 770 ??

[@rich1051414]

The bass rolls off at about 100hz. This is a mid forward headset. The high end is also more forward than the low end. The low end is pretty much absent, I am sorry to say. Not as absent as some sennheiser headphones though.

[@davidmason8212]

megazine why you still keeping the k7xx ? If you have the 4xx and 6xx i think there is no need for the 7xx

[@rich1051414]

"Every" Not true. The DT990's can be FAR too boomy if you mess with the dampening, and they are open backs. Open backs generally have less low end, but that is not an absolute. The primary reason most of them lack low end is not because they are open back, but because of the reason you want open back in the first place. More stereo separation. The issue is, the lower the frequency, the less the brain is able to locate that sound, so headphones heavy on the low end generally lack the separation people expect from an open back headphone.

[@muadification]

Lol you're funny diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/headphones/measurements/brands-a-i/dt990-600%CF%89/ diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/headphones/measurements/brands-s-se/hd58x-jubilee-massdrop/

[@Little_Bitz]

For ppl who are into modding just a bit, you can change out the parts like the matte grey to the gloss black from the 660s and the grills too or just spray paint them.

[@PhantomGett]

Thanks for this review. I actually wrote a script and was going to do a video of my own, my first, because of how phenomenal these are for the price. You hit the nail on the head.

[@PhantomGett]

But I do have to say, me personally, I feel like I get more slap out of the 6XXs. A/Bing them is a weird experience. For me, the 6XXs are more analytic in that I notice more detail, more things... And to my ears they're noticeably darker, or there's less treble energy. But the 58Xs? Their sound signature is just, inoffensive. Before I had the 6XXs, which I'm still getting a real feel for, the 58Xs were my go to. I just kept coming back to them for their musicality. The 4XXs, SHPs, HE 350s, and M40x's all had a less desirable sound, again to my ears, than the 58X. Those headphones just felt like home for lack of a better term. No doubt in my mind, some of the best headphones you can purchase for $150

[@aaronf6973]

These are a fantastic pair of headphones. I've had mine for over a month and they are my go to for portable use. Though I use mine with a fiio q1 mk 2 they work perfectly fine without any dac/amp and are ready to ho out of the box. The only complaint I have with them is I wish they had the same headband as the original HD580/600 so it can be more in sync with its namesake.

[@casedistorted]

Yeah the HD58X headband squeezes way too tight with default ear pads. With bigger softer ones it’s not bad

[@jeffsloane8628]

Got mine about a year ago and am actually listening to this video from a MacBook Pro/Schiit Asgard 3 w/ Delta Sigma DAC/HD58X setup. All of your comments are spot on. I've got about 20 cans and the HD660 is one of them. This is an excellent review. I had no issues with wait time from Massdrop.

[@davidwright2379]

Hey Josh, Ordered my 58x end November at black Friday sales, received them, 2 and 1/2 weeks later, delivered to Melbourne Australia, package in pristine condition, awesome headphones 🎧 Cheers Dave

[@nvrmndtrebuchet]

I liked the removal of the title cards for Build, Power, Sound, and Conclusion. Felt more natural and a little more professional when listening audio only. The similarity you mentioned is that the 58X driver is a 38mm version of the 40mm 660S driver. I enjoyed this format and appreciate the reviews every other day so there's an opportunity for more community based content more frequently. Appreciated the review on a product I haven't heard much about.

[@brandonin_ny]

I received my copy of the 58x's a couple days ago and i cannot imagine anyone being disappointed with these headphones, even if they were double the price. For $150 these are a GRAND SLAM. I already have the HD600 and have access to my fathers HD650 and the 58x's are just as good, if not better. To my ears they are more "fun" and have more bass than the 600 and only very slightly more bass than the 650's. To me they are more closely related to the 650's with the difference being a every so slight better vocals response. To me, the vocals were extremely similar to the 600's. All 3 are EXCELLENT on their own regards. For $150 the 58x's are an amazing deal that 99% of people will be 100% happy with, in my humble opinion. If i had a gun to my head and could only keep 1 pair out of the 3, i would keep the 58x's, because the sound signature is a hair more pleasing to me overall. I powered all 3 headphones thru a JDS Labs the Element dac/amp combo. Btw, the 58x's were easier to power than the 600's or 650's, but not by a ton. The Element had much more power left in the tank on all 3 sets. Cheers, everyone!

[@MTheoOA]

If you already listened to HE4XX, tell me if you prefer the 58X, please! I want to buy one of them! People say the 58x is awesome, but have no soundstage and i fear the narrow sound like... Closed back headphones. I have trauma about closed things

[@mikafoxx2717]

@@MTheoOA probably a little late, but I upgraded from the 400i to a Sundara, but also picked up a second hand 58x and.. I can't get the 58x off my head now. I even bring them to work. I might have bought a second hand HD600 because of this, and consider selling the Sundara that I bought new.. the lush mids and timbre of them are incredible and the soundstage feels intimate, and it's not a disadvantage or a flaw because of that.

[@antoinep9733]

It’s amusing coming to this review late (it’s tomorrow down here), and reading through all the comments before actually watching it. 600-line discussions are like those of air-cooled Porsche or the Nissan GTR (long histories, great performance). Some have no clue, some are total trainspotters, some have owned every model... but always lots of passion, I love the passion!

[@JoshuaValour]

lol

[@marcelmatzenauer6352]

Excellent review! I own a pair and completely agree with you. Thanks!

[@VicharB]

2021 and I am getting these, primary for HiFi/HiRes music listening, along with the recent update of my old PXC 500 to 550-II.

[@BM-du7sl]

I just bought them today, so excited

[@bubblebubble50]

@@BM-du7sl How much did it cost you in total?

[@BM-du7sl]

@@bubblebubble50 $185, the headphones themselves cost 170 but I paid extra for faster shipping because I'm too impatient lol

[@shinyscales33]

Got a pair of these, was so excited. Listened for a couple days. P nice. Back to the porta pros. Played myself

[@ealz2001]

shinyscales33 they're literally dollar store headphones why the fuck would u even.

[@shinyscales33]

creamy f my point was less that the porta pros are amazing, and more that I really don’t like these. The high end is really harsh and loses a ton of detail to sibilance and coarseness. (And not just compared to the porta pro’s, which have very recessed highs). Vocals sound thin and nasty

[@shinyscales33]

Jk I took the foam out of the back and now they absolutely kick ass. You HAVE to take the foam out

[@jesseallen4184]

I’ve had my 58X for a couple of days now and I’m really enjoying them. I’m just powering them from my 2012 iMac and they sound great. I’m considering getting the iFi Zen to power them. The clamping force out the box was ridiculous, probably worse cause i wear glasses though. But I stretched them out over 2 days and now they are very comfy. Give me velour pads over leather pads any day.

[@hy7968]

The HD58x doesn’t need an amp. I can get the HD58x to uncomfortable volume levels plugging it into my iPad. I hear close to no difference plugging it into the balanced output on my Fiio Q3 dac/amp. The ifi zen DAC will give you great headroom tho. As the zen dac with be more than enough for harder to drive headphones like the hd6xx/hd650.

[@aight3565]

@@hy7968 strongly disagree. It doesn’t "need" an amp to run at high volumes, but the difference in audio quality going from my iPhone dongle to my FiiO k3, then to the Topping DX3 pro+ is too much to be ignored in my opinion.

[@lumntoob999]

Awesome video, it's so nice having a trustworthy reviewer with good hearing being dedicated to getting honest information out there.

[@ChristopherBaluyut]

I missed the 2nd drop of these. Luckily, I got a pair from eBay in like new condition, never regretted the decision. These sound heavenly with an amp.

[@davidmason8212]

Thanks a lot for this review I have been waiting for it for along time.

[@Snook_]

Your intro music is WAY too loud FYI

[@aja8590]

Nice review Josh! I’ve been through quite a few headphones over the last couple of years, but now have the 6xx, 58x, and DT770. My DAC/Amp setup is very simple, a Schiit Magni 3 and an iFi Nano Black, but I’m happy with this set up. My head says stop here, chasing the extra 5 - 10% in sound isn’t worth (to me) the $1000’s investment. My heart says buy the HD800’s...which would then lead to an amp upgrade...Sigh, is it possible to crawl back out of the rabbit hole without going all the way down? I don’t want to go all the way down...

[@JoshuaValour]

Dude stop there. Be smart lol. It doesn't NEED to be an obsession and you already have VERY capable gear. Also, if you did get the HD800, the Magni has more than enough power.

[@HungryCheff]

I agree that you should stop here, but i definately don't agree with joshua saying it had enough power to push your hd800s that's just not true. The hd800s is too picky for that.

[@davidmason8212]

NewOrder66 Sith Which one do you prefer the most 6xx or 58x ?? And does the 58x has the same smoothness in sound as the 6xx ?

[@aja8590]

david maison Mate, I honestly cant pick one over the other. I’m not very good at articulating what I hear, I’m no audiophile. But to me, they’re mostly quite similar, but the slight differences are enough for me to want to keep both. The 58x isn’t as smooth as the 6xx - the treble isn’t as veiled as it is on the 6xx, and the bass of the 58x is stronger and tighter. If I HAD to pick just one, I’d pick the 58x purely because it’s $50 cheaper.

[@ryanguy6789]

Easily a best all rounder and amazing price-performance. Comfortable too. Not much to complain about here. They sound excellent with everything. This comes from someone who has been listening to headphones for years, some very expensive.

[@auradrifter7779]

HD58X is bae I would like to note also, you mention despite the name it sounds more like the hd 6xx lineup. You may not be aware but before the hd600 released, the HD580 was the flagship and had a very similiar design but with geometric plastic grill designs. HD600 was not the first of the sennheiser flagship models.

[@JoshuaValour]

Aura Drifter oh, I’m definitely aware. But, for reference of the “current” 5** series, it sounds closer to the 6** series.

[@auradrifter7779]

I agree. I actually sold my hd600 after hearing the 58x for a few days. Very similiar sound, but something about the 58x is more charming and gave a little lift to the tracks.

[@JeffreyHeesch]

Ooh La La by Faces (okay, ANY acoustic music) sounds INCREDIBLE on these cans.

[@pierrecesario6446]

woah. thanks for the song recommendation! (even if I don't have these cans lol)

[@jamhedon]

Obligatory comment....listening on my HD58X, my current favorite model.

[@TheDigitalcrack]

You sold me Josh...I'm about to buy my first pair of wired audiophile headphones. I have previously gotten the drop panda and other typical headphones like the Airpod max and Sony xm4. So I'm really excited to hear what you have deemed 10 out 10...if I get this I'm ordering a DACand Amp as well. It's all downhill from here...my wallet is going to hate you probably:))

[@ryanherrera9171]

Hey Josh, Exellent review as always an completely agree with how they sound, to a point. The bass is more towards the accurate side with a slight bump. I find the bass quite smooth and tight. I'm driving mine with a Schiit Magni 3 and a Modi 2.

[@AbirZenith]

Like the background light , you have upped your production with time

[@jaronloar1762]

Fuck it, headphone reviews always counterdict eachother, I'm buying these. Period.

[@JoshuaValour]

Good choice

[@jaronloar1762]

@@JoshuaValour thanks bro! :) just ordered them on massdrop! :)

[@armandorivas4331]

Just purchased the Sennheiser 58x and Audeze LCD-X and am playing them through a Schitt Magni 3+ (all three discovered through the exceptional reviews of Valour). With EQ (which they both desperately need), I'm disappointed to say that the appreciable difference in sound quality is only marginal and certainly not worth the $1,000 price difference :/ The LCD-X has bit more clarity and substance throughout the entire spectrum of sound, but only a bit. For the price tag, I was expecting something other worldly..... Am I crazy?

[@MrSpotface]

With these headphones Sennheiser actually did something to nerf the sound quality. They have actually done this before. Basically they took a huge piece of foam.and put it behind the driver underneath the grill

[@2134yanto]

I always enjoy your videos. To someone as inexperienced such as myself, they are very informative without being confusing. Do you think these headphones would suit someone looking for a fairly neutral sound and who doesn’t want it to be too coloured with high levels of bass or harsh, bright or sibilant trebles please? Thanks

[@jorgbornefeld1689]

Yes.

[@action-slack4916]

That’s why they’re $150 they Frankensteined it. And that’s why it turned up in a cheap box.

[@MonTadas]

I believe the name 58X is not meant to be about 500 series but instead the predecessor of 600 series - HD580

[@gnawrot]

Got them for $129 at Massdrop today. The plan is to use them with my Ifi Zen V2 DAC powered by Topping A50 LPS. I am considering getting balanced cables for the headphones.

[@n4jg6]

Tried the 600 series but didn’t quite like the ‘in-your-face’ vocals. Felt disjointed from the music. Maybe its just me.

[@JoshuaValour]

n4jg6 understandable!

[@hazi5961]

Not just you, same here. Granted I listen to a lot of Hard Rock and Metal, so that has a lot to do with it. I prefer the HD650, and the Beyerdynamic DT-880 even more.

[@Tripokaridos22]

I have HD599, HD58X, HD6XX . HD6XX are more detailed with dark sound , HD599 have a lot of high bass ,fast and Biggest Soundstage of them all perfect for Games , HD58X its in the middle they are more clear than HD599 but no from HD6XX , they also have the best low bass from them all .

[@faidzjalil]

Thanks for including the timestamp. That's the reason I watched the whole video. I'm just sad this headphones did not ship to my country Malaysia straight from massdrop. I know about forwarding service but it defeats the purpose of saving via massdrop. Anyway love the review and the high quality video.

[@ritzyeow]

Try services like buyandship. Ship to their us warehouse. They ship to u. I got my pair for RM20 shipping

[@shzammpatapon9865]

i feel you man, from malaysia too. i am excited for this headphone back in the days but still there isnt any solution even to this day. it seems like many otheres, the shp9500 is not the last frontier for me

[@faidzjalil]

@@shzammpatapon9865 I got the PC38x and they shipped it direct. But custom fees were a bit heft

[@gregsonberlin3782]

Not to forget the absence of distortion. I love my 58X too.

[@casedistorted]

The one major thing I don’t like about these is how hard they hug around my head, I have never been able to get them comfortable for years and years with the default earpads. I did order a thicker pair of ear pads from Drop for $50 (way overpriced) and they def change the sound to be a little more muted, but they are so much more comfortable now that all that headband pressure isn’t directly on my head, it’s more spread out evenly with bigger softer ear cups. Without EQ they don’t sound great either, but with a good EQ APO profile they sound really good in music and gaming. I do find listening to music on YT is pretty amazing with these headphones. Apparently something in my comment set off the auto moderation from this channels KZbin hammer settings, and my comment was removed pretty quickly. Sucks we live in 1984 now

[@DragonClawBG]

Completely agree with everything you said about the sound, though I personally find these to be one of the prettier pairs among the 6 series.

[@S.A.S.H.]

Josh, I have a pair of Drop HD58X Jubilees. And though I Love the detail I find them a tad dark for my tastes and really would like more soundstage, both side to side and front to back. Currently I have a Little Dot mk2 with some matched GE JAN 5654W tubes. I also have a Pro-ject Headbox for solid state power. I'm interested in getting better soundstage and little less emphasis in the lower mid-range. I've consumed quite a few of your videos recently, and find them really informative. I really like the lack of hyperbole in your reviews. Thanks for all your work. Do you have some recommendations that might fit my tastes as stated above? TIA, and keep up the great work.

[@EvanPilb]

My only preference would be if it was a little brighter but other than that i love it, i feel like im in the music

[@bluelabel222]

This is my favorite "on-the-go" headphone despite being a open back. Absolutely love it when i use it on the Nintendo Switch playing Octopath. The soundtrack is awesome! I have the HD6XX for my desktop set up as it scales a lot better with higher end DAC/amp. Good review!

[@dawkosvk]

Got these 7 years ago, best headphones for the money

[@investordangdaniel]

Got mine used for $60. Love it!

[@adamb8308]

nice video brother just ordered em

[@hunterscars01]

Massdrop has these in-stock ready to ship within 2-3 days as of 15-08-18 just ordered mine about 30 mins ago, hopefully they don't take too long to get too Australia

[@hunterscars01]

John Frazer mine just got processed in Sydney today so they should be up my way (NQLD) by Thursday or Friday 👌

[@hunterscars01]

yeah just got mine today, 15 days after shipping date.

[@FernandoCastillo-og7ze]

Did you enjoy it?

[@Carlton_Banks]

Also something of note is that outside usual massdrop product availability issues, if you live outside the US, you'll need to use a mail forward company as well, this can, and probably will impact the price of these/or any headphones available there.

[@aja8590]

thenewsamken There’s a lot of countries that Massdrop delivers to, not everyone outside of the US will need to use a mail forwarded.

[@Carlton_Banks]

When they do deliver outside the US, it's usually NA/EU and some Asian countries (Taiwan for example). That still leaves a lot of countries out the list.

[@aja8590]

thenewsamken From what I know, the countries that aren’t included are due to Sennheiser, and distribution agreements they have in those regions (which makes no sense in the case of the 58x). I’m thankful that Australia is included, it would be very frustrating not being able purchase without using a shipping forwarder.

[@KaneDWilliams]

Some other reviewers say it sounds very close to the HD660, even closer if the foam and paper are taken out. Apparently all the serial numbers on all the components are the same.

[@Cuzzy135]

These are comfortable but I was disappointed. Something feels off about the bass response tbh. Waited 6+ months on the first drop and felt like an idiot when they arrived.

[@Cuzzy135]

@Desmondos hey at this point, I'll give anything shot.

[@timothybrown8424]

What are you running these out of? I was disappointed when hearing them out of my S8+, but they sound great out of my laptop. And that's without an amp/DAC.

[@ramieklewis1146]

I spend a lot of time tracking through my Apollo twin quad, I'm a part time mixing engineer and I just can't find use for these. I waited 5+ months (first drop) and I knew they were tweaking the low end but I favor accurate cans such as the 280s nowadays because these f*cc my mixes up big time.

[@Assimilator702]

Ramiek Lewis The 58x were never intended for mixing.....just music enjoyment.

[@affinity601]

@@Cuzzy135 did removing the foam do it justice?

[@NhatQuangTran]

pop open these and remove the foam from the sides and honestly trying to find the difference between these and the 660 is really challenging

[@acetigg6690]

$20 off of purchase on massdrop for first time buyers!! Just ordered the 58x can't wait for it to come in the mail.

[@C7Tmac]

How do you like then ?

[@thermann9]

Great info. With the proper makeup and costume, you'd make a great lead singer for a Norwegian Death Metal band. +1

[@m4nc1n1]

I just got these new off of Ebay for $159 and I absolutely love them although i think the ear space is a little narrow compared to say the 9500's. I think one of the main reasons the 9500 is so comfortable is they are wide ear space . That really is my only complainant and if anybody has a good recommendation on replacement pads that have a wider ear space without effecting the sound signature too much please let me know.

[@adinlewaabraham2603]

Do you think the 9500 is better than the 58x when it comes to sound quality

[@ExacoMvm]

So basically it's open backs that sounds like closed backs. Guess the only upgrade from 598/599 is the HD 800 ( or something like HE4XX, AKG K7XX ), 600 series seems like sidegrade or downgrade for those who requires good soundstage.. or even just some bookshelf speakers :D

[@ArtsyFartsy.]

Nice review! How do you think these compare to other models such as the Sennheiser HD 599? Looking to buy one but HD 599's are more expensive, wondering if it's worth it

[@OkieDokieSmokie]

I enjoy the mix and match look. Works on guns, works on headphones too apparently.

[@FabioRigokimbaorso]

I will be getting a pair of these.. period..

[@hunterscars01]

there are ready to ship on massdrop RN

[@brandonin_ny]

you will not be disappointed. i received mine 2 days ago and i LOVE them. best deal ever for $150. its absolutely crazy that they only cost $150

[@ejojo13]

Most people don't spend $100 on headphones period... so to imply $150 is crazy cheap while $500 is okay or $1500+ puts one into the audiophile club is little bit crazy talk ;-] I'm still rocking my V6 from 1997 which was just under $100... how's that for a deal?-)

[@turbomustang84]

actually the HD-660s uses the Driver out of the HD-700 which is a 40 mm driver and the HD-58X Jubilee uses a new never used 38mm driver which although it is tuned somewhat like the HD660s the HD-58X Jubilee has more Sub Bass and is a Quicker performing driver but this and the model it is patterned after the HD-580 Jubilee has nothing to do with the 5 series models because it and the original HD-580 share the same driver as the HD-600

[@sweetswing1]

Huh, I find mine pretty bass heavy...I wonder if the leather pads make a difference as that's what I use on them.

[@soulfulfool]

maybe try to remove foam pads behind the driver

[@LyK0sa]

The leather pads are probably the cause. I don't have a pair of 58X, but I noticed a significant bass increase on my fidelio X2HR when I swapped the stock velour pads for leather.

[@menachemelkayam153]

Nice review Josh, btw I don't know if you know about this but there's a way to mod these headphones to make it sound almost identical to the 660s. I personally haven't tried it but others did and that's what they say...

[@Tomestoh]

I had to wait around 7 months for my hd6xx's but the wait is worth it and it wasn't caused by either sennheiser or massdrop but a company that was making parts for sennheiser if I remember correctly

[@kevincanlas1549]

Would you recommend these for gaming? You've said that it has great imaging, that you can pinpoint sounds/details from their sources within its soundstage very easily. However, the soundstage is lacking (you've used descriptions such as narrow, intimate, etc.). For the most part, I like to play competitive shooters. Thanks!

[@JoshuaValour]

Yes. They are more than capable for gaming.

[@muhammadnuman3985]

@@JoshuaValour These or the fidelio x2hrs for semi competitive gaming?

[@Angel-AbC9]

What's confusing is that you love the vocals and explain it as the best or one of the best in clarity, but also said I. 150.00 range only, 150 is cheaper headphones and ok should be better,so my point is the 58x cannot compete with 500.00 mids and vocals ? So which 300 or 4 or 5 has way better vocals?? This is very unclear .if Josh can't explain , can someone else chime in on this question.

[@nevenc7149]

Bought these mainly due to your review. Not bad, but my 15+ year old pair of Grado SR60 eat them for breakfast.

[@optimusprime3470]

Hello, I was wondering if you would compare the MassdropxHifiman HE4XX against MassdropxSennheiser HD58X Jubilee? Thanks in advance!

[@itsbigcos]

Hey Josh, I've seen audiophiles on KZbin say if you pop open the chassis and remove the foam pads quite easily from the 58x they sound much more like the 660s. Do you have a knowledge of this? Would love to hear your opinion on this mod. Thanks for everything, you gd hero.

[@jameskillbot2867]

Nope it’s not close. I feel very enclosed in my 58x either way compared to my 660s. They are tuned similarly, but just looking at the driver with them open it’s not remotely similar and only sounds similar due to sennheiser sound. I don’t recommend the 58x at all. 6xx or 660s or another headphone all the way.

[@jameskillbot2867]

Yes the 58x sound good, but for 60$ more there is much better out there.

[@kvltwalter]

I was really interested in the 58X, but already owning an old pair of 580 Precisions from the '90s and the 6XX from Massdrop these seemed like a sidestep from what I already have more than an improvement. The main difference people are talking about with these vs the old 580s is more bass as you said, the original 580s have very light bass and stuff like southern rap is going to have sub bass hiding in the background. I'd have to listen to a pair myself before I buy.

[@arthurhaywood2184]

The 58X is similar to the 580 Precisions in name only. Totally different driver with an 150 Ohm impedance. I still have the 565 Ovations which sound very close to the 580 (slightly less treble extension) & I'd say that the 58X would be an overall improvement over the 580 Precision but you will lose some soundstage width.

[@anthonysworld5341]

I love my pair. I was using a Fiio e7 and e9 amp and dac setup. I just sold the Fiio for an upgrade. My budget is $500 for a preferred balanced amp and dac combo. I’m looking at the Schiit Jotunheim and the massdrop Liquid Carbon X + SDAC. Any suggestions? Thanks! Great review!

[@nashwalker7]

im sure im late haha. but 58x and evo 4 are amazing

[@fuffy442]

Another excellent posting! Now, can you please compare them to every other headphone ever made? Thank you. :-)

[@nashwalker7]

Actually like the matte with the gloss. All matte would be preferred. I don’t like the 6xx look for some reason. The new 600’s look the best but not for the price.

[@Tripokaridos22]

Is it possible to paint the 58X grill on glossy black color ?

[@JoshuaValour]

Yes, you can take them apart by hand too.

[@Tripokaridos22]

@@JoshuaValour Thanks for your reply , I got these because of your review . you are spot on very trustful but ,,, the build quality that no one says is really bad … I really don't get it .

[@C7Tmac]

Would you recommend HD58X or HD6XX for gaming prioritie ??

[@luke_skyknocker]

What will be the best closed-back alternative to these? (similarly priced), because their sound signature is exactly what i was looking for. I love how clear and intimate the vocals are, but unfortunately i can listen to them only at home. Anything?

[@WSlopeAggie]

Sennheiser HD598 Cs is really the closest I can think of.

[@B1gdee05]

I really like your reviews and appreciate your opinion as I am not in the position to try out a lot of headphones especially when it comes to comparisons.. Have you tried the B&O H6 2 generation headphones? If not try it man.. I would love to hear your thoughts 💭 Keep up the good work 👍🏾👍🏾

[@andrewcanella]

Underrated gem- I love my H6 gen 2 cans!

[@almo29]

How do the *Sennheiser 58X* and the *AKG K712 Pro* compere?

[@unlimitedpizza8888]

Hey Joshua are you treble sensitive? Im thinking about buying these but im very treble sensitive and would like to know more about your reference point when judging the treble. Thanks.

[@intoitreviews]

Did you swap out the pads? I'm debating between lamb skin and hybrids, assuming dekoni hd600 pads will work?

[@Snidel]

Hey Joshua, would you use a DAC/AMP to extract more juice out of the HD68X o you think its innecesary? (i use a HD6XX with a Topping DX7 as mainly driver, but i want to make a less expensive setup for my office so i pledge on massdrop for the HD58X but i don't know if i should amp them... finally they are 150ohms vs 300ohms of the HD6XX)

[@JesusGonzalez-tu2nr]

I just got my own set. And, I like them. I have the M1060s and these as my main sets. I have a question/request. Is there any chance you could add if you feel a headphone plays nice with an equalizer like Peace (peace-equalizer-apo-extension)? It seems like the M1060s do more than the 58X. I wounder if there is hidden value in equalizers, kinda like an overclock or underclock of a CPU. Thanks

[@mjcheung]

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[@cr0ft-2k]

It seems like Massdrop has these in stock all the time now. At least I had no problems ordering and they shipped them out next day. Since the video ends with a note that they may not be. But that was of course said in August and I guess things have changed.

[@MrZodiac011]

So for gaming and listening to music, how much better would these be compared to a Razer Kraken Pro V2, would they be bassier or less bassy

[@kittydukakis]

I have an HD58X and love its sound stage and warm tonality. I can't find many ear pads for them, however. Do you know if the HD600's fit the HD58X? Thanks, love your reviews.

[@JohnPap21]

Yes they fit but the authentic one produce better sound.

[@emarshallp]

Joshua you said is more thanks a 600 thanks 500. I have 598se, this little gem, do you believe it's has more clarity and imagine??? Thanks

[@faggotlord2467]

How does these headphones sounds for gaming?

[@peggycarter6460]

That's exactly what I want it to know xD

[@cdub1915]

these might be the headphones i purchase. been researching atleast 12+hrs and the 660s and such i was willing to purchase but this price is so much better and i love how the trebel seems to be not good and not fatiguing.

[@basslover352]

I have an HD 600 and am tempted to get these. Is the soundstage width any wider or similar? I'm more than satisfied with the bass on my HD 600 but would like a little more sub bass so im curious.

[@gregge72]

Would you prefer the HD58X or the Argon's for gaming?

[@JoshuaValour]

Completely different sounds, but the 58X for gaming.

[@KliFinancial]

Hey Josh. Love your reviews. Not sure if you still look at these comments but ill take a shot anyway. I bought the 58x because i like the clear vocals and intimacy, and do agree with your opinion for the majority. I also just watched your video on what to look for in reviewers and about the roles and responsibilities of a review and a viewer. Needless to say, I value your opinion, and wanted to know what type of headphones you'd recommend at the lower end of pricing ( something like a $200-250 figure) that has a great, wide sound stage. My 58x has its role, but i definitely agree that the soundstage is lacking, and wanna know what I should look for. P.S. if anyone else has a good recommendation for me I'd love to hear it as well!

[@TheNeilo-Audiosound]

Joshua Sir, Firstly another Great Review But I do have a question:- I have the HD58X Jubilees and I bought the Hifiman HE4XX due to your reviews and now I have on the way the Version2 Monolith M1060,s! I have to ask now I have the 58X is it worth buying the 6XX As I am now on the fence buying them if the 58X are close and don’t want to outlay on massdrop another $199 plus shipping and Customs to the UK? (Help me Obi Wan Kenobi your my only hope?)

[@haydenmorris5859]

Neil Davison if you want a more open soundstage 6xx is worth every penny

[@MusikXclusive]

How are the HD58X comparable to the Advanced GTR, i have the HD58X and find them really good, i consider to buy the GTR, when they any good like the GTR

[@Muggles3130]

So they don't sound exactly like the originals? The grill alone makes me want the originals.

[@xRoshier]

What would be the ideal amplifier for this to use on my pc?

[@psych0mik062]

I use these (and a 6XX) with a Loxjie D30 dac/amp and/or the JDS Labs Atom dac and Atom amp. Love both of these headphones!

[@Sleep1331]

Not an audiophile, but how much of an upgrade is this from audio technica M50?

[@yannick930]

I can't deal with the possible wait. Is it possible to cancel your order on Massdrop if it's too long ?

[@JoshuaValour]

I don't think the wait should be too long, now days.

[@yannick930]

@@JoshuaValour I live in France... I'm probably gonna buy just for the price.

[@imembridibuddha]

Are those an upgrade from the shp9500?

[@rustang426w]

Listening is truly subjective.. Sending these back. To me, they are smoother but have an inverse V-shape. Also, the in your head feel is claustrophobic. Unnatural. I like my SuperLux 681 better

[@chuckseeger7743]

Great job.