Homophobic DM Punishes Gay DnD Characters | r/rpghorrorstories

[@TigerKirby215]

What the heck is wrong with the DM in the second story? At first I thought he was just a jerk who hates kids, but no: he's a jerk who hates *everyone* for some reason? Even Cain and the Barbarian (who seemed completely innocent) get awful consequences for the crime of being part of the campaign? Genuine sociopathic behavior: I hope for everyone's sake the DM seeks therapy, but I know they won't.

[@kaylalee2763]

Hi, this is OP from Story 2! I want to speak up about something really quick before I retire for bed, but I'll be free to answer any questions when I can tomorrow. Yes, I read the awesome comments that could power word the DM to the 9 Hells, and I appreciate it a lot! XD Firstly, Cain and I only knew DM based off what he's told us and I didn't really want Eri to know about his story besides that "he knows what he's doing". Before Eri joined, DM was going through an off and on relationship and he was going through some substance abuse. But it was only after the breakup (the week when Eri joined) that he really started becoming the man you just read about. What else bothered me was that he seemed to only take his frustrations out on the girls (me, Eri, and Rogue), while the boys (Cain and Barbarian) basically got the "bros before hos" sort of attitude (And yes, even his girlfriend had the same problem. More on her later). Clearly Eri got the worst of it, and while I felt sick in the stomach, I was the naive people pleaser that just wanted to keep the peace. I know, I hated myself for that, but I grew a spine in the end, so don't hate me (lol). One other thing, DM never really had a chance to sit and talk with my sister like Cain did- he had an actual opportunity to talk to her during Session 0. When that happened, I guess he skimmed through her inventory and just said "okay, you're in!". I had this happen to me before (twice), so yeah... kind of pissed that it happened to a beginner player, my sister nonetheless. Secondly, I found out of the DM's girlfriend after she joined our now ongoing campaign as a warlock. During "commercial break", she admitted to me that DM broke up with her while she's pregnant, her baby expected in June. And what caused the breakup was that she was trying to get him help and he didn't want the "fix" because he thought she was trying to make him into someone he's not- a "hard addict with a big boobed who** as a girlfriend". His words, not mine. She also told me he's trying to start up a campaign soon after the holidays. And guess who just got an invite to join the game? ...Yep, me and Cain. He'll have his GF as a second DM, but he warned her that if she does something he doesn't like, he'll "put her in her place". This is what made her stop contacting him altogether, even calling the police and going to court to put a restraining order on him since he knew where she lived. I felt so sorry for her, and even Cain offered to help her since his uncle is in law enforcement. I don't know where he is now, but I won't stress over him. We're all happy now, and I rather we stay happy forever than worry about a deadbeat like him. Lastly, Eri's disability- in case you're curious or prying- is PTSD and acute stress disorder. Otherwise, she's perfectly fine and healthy, and she's enjoying life a lot better now rather than cry about it. But as of reference to the story, that's why Eri was worried DM was mad at her (her parents- moreso her dad, would always yell at her when he's angry) and why she was nervous to speak whenever she felt like her back was against the wall (she had a hard time socializing with people, such as when she was trying to get used to being with me and my parents). Now, she's practically playing like a total veteran, and I'm so proud of her! She doesn't cry much (not saying she totally stopped crying), and whenever she needs help, she talks to me, Cain, or the DM- during breaks or during sessions. And if she gets upset over something- even if it has nothing to do with the game, the DM is reasonable enough to give her a break, and even takes over her character until she's ready to get back in the game. Context for our campaign: Eri has given her sling to a child who wanted to grow to be an adventurer like her, and dip into the fighter class so she can have access to "Extra Attack" and a boost in health and defense. She's now our frontline, alongside Cain's paladin character- though she still helps in healing and buffing the party when we need it. I released my contract to protect Eri , retired him after completing his character story, and I'm now working into creating a new character soon. And DM's GF is an awesome warlock player who likes getting into everyone's heads, enemy or ally. And so far, she's Cain's worst nightmare (lol)! Our story will see that we take on her character's BBEG, so can't wait to face off against a vampire (thank GOD it isn't Astarion)! Anyway, peace out people. I'll talk to you guys soon. Have a good night/morning/evening, and I'm off to bed!

[@andrewbyrne2173]

Hello OP! Glad to know you are doing better. Just for my curiosity, did you talk to the DM about your sister joining before you invited her?

[@KingZNIN]

​@@andrewbyrne2173 I don't think it really matters the dude was a creep

[@snyperwulffgaming9575]

For what it's worth, both you and your sister are welcome into my campaigns in the future. What he did was just horrific and wrong. I'm sorry your sister's first experience went down that way. His relationship issues and substance abuse issues are not yours or your sisters problems for him to lash out with. I do not hate you, I can understand the difficulties of speaking up or standing up in a situation like this. I used to be like that as well. I'm glad you two and Cain found a good DM and that they're much better working with ya'll. I've had on and off again campaigns throughout the years but DnD is one of those things I absolutely love, enjoy and am passionate about. So seeing what he did to the characters after ya'll left was blood boiling and sickening and only speaks of his mental state. I have no sympathy for people who use their real life situations as a way to punish or abuse their players.

[@SakuraKahn]

Hi, I just want to answer on OP's behalf (I'm a friend of hers, and her computer is getting fixed right now. For Andrew, yes she did. She mentioned that Eri had a disability but didn't really get into much detail- just "she's disabled, and yelling makes her upset." For snyperwulf, I'm sure she and Eri would love to, especially since their campaign is on hold because of her computer problem. By the time her campaign finishes (which should be before or after the holidays), she should be available. And yes KingZNIN, he is a total creep from what I've heard/seen in a while.

[@DrTimeSCPPsych]

Let me just say, eris slinger cleric would be fully welcome in my campaigns. I pkayed a druid whos only weapon was a sling and my kobold funhouse module has many dangerous kobold stingers so id even hook her up with a cool magic sling

[@dragonmasterknight7]

After hearing it several times, I have to say that the 1st story sounds like the DM was trying to play out a power fantasy with his "superior" npc's where the pc's were supposed to be awestruck and fall over themselves to date them. Then when he got presented with something that went against the narrative in his head he threw a fit and decided to back the party into a corner before railroading his own ending whether the party wanted or not.

[@emperortime4380]

Dude’s sick. I mean the surprise ending made that obvious but even up until that point he seemed mentally ill.

[@dragonmasterknight7]

@@emperortime4380 I wouldn't use the word seemed.

[@solosynapse]

Not to mention the fact that he seems to think that being a controlling, totalitarian, might-makes-right sociopath makes someone a GOOD guy. He's going to be in for a rude awakening when (not if) he tries that attitude in the real world.

[@TheReddShinobi13]

​@@solosynapseor in an american prison (assuming he's american). Where "might-makes-right" means he's property

[@Jonathan-ic9ef]

I've actually thought about how cool it would be to run a campaign in the style of The Boys where main villains are "heroes" who defend the realm but are actually total psychopaths who commit unspeakable atrocities when not in the public eye. This DM had a great premise on his hands, though he turned out to be one of those guys who unironically thinks that Homelander is a hero.

[@solosynapse]

Yea, the fact that he thinks his DMPC is a lawful good hero is a massive red flag.

[@Lady_Ginnie]

That second story makes me so MAD. I play primarily healers. What that DM is failing to remember is that if you build a good healer, they'll never be alone on the battlefield because PEOPLE DON'T DIE IF THEY'RE BEING HEALED. I'm currently playing a character in my gf's campaign that is specifically built to be the main healer. At higher levels, dude is going to be a healbot (at level 1 he is admittedly kind of useless, lol). If he wanted to run a campaign where people minmax the hell out of their characters and are very damage oriented, he needs to say so. Plus, why ask "where are you?" if you're gonna get upset when a player tells you where they are?? If he wanted the cleric to start off in the church, he needs to say, "Cleric, I think you're probably at the church." Still annoying that she's not given a choice in the matter, but at least he didn't give her the illusion of choice before bringing her down. What an ass.

[@vodostar9134]

The pure healer gnome cleric with a sling sounds like a delightful character and would be welcome in my game any time.

[@informitas0117]

Yeah, that garbage DM had no imagination, nor empathy for that matter.

[@TheRenofox]

Exactly what I thought too. That kind of roleplaying was outright impressive, and ought to be praised in any non-sociopathic table.

[@leviprobably]

Jesus Christ what is wrong with these DMs ever thinking it’s ok to SA a player character. So disgusting.

[@TheOtherGuys2]

Tip: if your DM makes every session turn into their DMPCs showing off how awesome they are, you're not playing D&D, you're listening to him narrate what's probably a self-insert fan fiction.

[@ramirezthesilvite]

Ah yes, flawless logic. "You exist in a way that makes me uncomfortable due to my own personal hangups, therefore it's your fault for making me hurt you. You should have stopped being you if you didn't want me to do this." Sadly, a very old story that keeps repeating itself. Glad they got rid of him.

[@ArcCaravan]

My first thought at the video title was, "The DM's going to invoke realism to justify abundance of homophobic NPCs that are conveniently aligned with personal views of good." Turns out it was the dreaded DMPC academy story, one of the worst stories I've ever heard. I feel it overall rivals (nay, dwarfs) the legendary airship story.

[@whitenekos]

I want to say dm is the same individual considering the elements of both stories overpowered dmpcs for one.

[@WTFisTingispingis]

That wasn't realism, it's just contrived edge for edge's sake.

[@ArcCaravan]

@@WTFisTingispingis I know, just seems like a pattern for DM's justify decisions against players as, "It's realistic." Those kinds of people think saying "authenticity" excuses any criticism from a player. I made that prediction before realizing what the story was.

[@MarquisLeary34]

That DM had some bad wiring in the old golova. The red flags were cropping up pretty quick. That first DMPC encounter should have been loud enough.

[@timetraveler_from_2012]

I want to disagree but I feel like that's exclusively because of how close the airship story is to my heart. also the DM managed to find a way to make things legitimately worse than they would have been realistically in our own world for that period which is a pretty big accomplishment considering how shit our own world already is. You would think that in a world where there are supernatural threats people would have better things to worry about but I guess not. I'm sure it's entirely reasonable for them to execute and gang(youtube will delete my comment if i say this word) people loved by the public because they don't conform to the values of a religion that doesn't exist in their world

[@PTp1ranha]

So does DM #2 just not realize that healers can heal their friends? He's talking like he expects a situation where a fight's gonna come down to just one person left standing, since that's why he's so sure a pure healer is a bad idea. And since he's the DM, that means he can (and probably intended to) approach battles with a severe "kill the party" mindset. I can't see this being a very pleasant game, good thing it didn't start.

[@gazblackheart4596]

Last story dm is being a complete asshole for no reason, like why is he being so controlling over someone elses character. If they want to be suboptimal for story reasons the dm has no say in the matter and should just play around it if they have any skill.

[@TigerW0lf]

"There's no reason for a cleric to be at a place with elite warriors." What should have been said to that pretentious prick: "Let the newbie play how she wishes, or you'll find out why militaristic groups need a MEDIC!"😤 Edit: OK, SCRATCH THAT! After that ending, he's gonna need more than a medic after his due punishment!!!!🤬

[@Vahktang]

“There’s no reason for a cleric…’ To be at a group of holy warriors? There was a Paladin giving a speech, after all. And military types don’t need ministering, too? There are ministers in every branch of the military of every country, I am betting.

[@WTFisTingispingis]

Knights Hospitallers have entered the chat.

[@afunnymans]

@@VahktangEven if the paladins and cleric PC dedicated themselves to different gods, it would make total sense for the local church to want to ally themselves with a group of holy warriors (assuming their gods aren’t in opposition to each other of course).

[@shadenox8164]

I mean... clerics ARE elite warriors at least when it comes to PCs. Like PCs aren't normal everyday members of their profession. Most NPCs that work in churches probably don't have that much skill in combat even if they can cast high level cleric spells.

[@kyriss12]

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[@emperortime4380]

I usually play aro/ace characters because romance at the table always struck me as awkward. On one occasion, a barmaid was openly flirting with me and my kenku cleric just replied, “Ma’am, I’m a bird and a bird of the cloth at that.”

[@redwarrior69340]

Genius answer XD

[@stanieldasboot953]

As an ace person, I always play the filthiest sluts, but I always emphasize that they are ethical sluts. The refrain "safe, sane, and consensual" comes up a lot, and you would be surprised how often that raises issues with DM plans. "Im not gonna have sex with a princess. You think I can consent with someone that much higher in the social ladder than me?"

[@gurmyigoll3535]

Exactly, we're here to loot, not romance.

[@emperortime4380]

@@gurmyigoll3535 100%. I’ve never been a murder hobo, but most certainly a loot goblin.

[@RockR277]

I've only played with close friends and the idea of flirting with the DM, my friend, even in RP sounds wildly awkward to me.

[@Psycopathicus]

Sounds to me like that second DM was the type who gets along well with one type of player, but ONLY one. He's fine with experienced players, but expects EVERYONE to be like that - he has no patience whatsoever with beginners, or tolerance for those who fall beneath his lofty expectations. He's the 'tries to teach calculus to preschoolers, then gets mad when they cry' sort of DM, and it sounds like they're well rid of him.

[@snyperwulffgaming9575]

I'm still only on my first campaign with my friends As DM... But after the years I have played, it breaks my heart a little to know Eri was breaking down and crying, simply because she didn't wanna make him angry. It hurt... and it's sad to see happen because no new player should ever experience a DM who's a royal cock like that. We all were fresh newbies at one point who didn't play like everyone else.

[@genevievelok9496]

Ah that story! Heard it so many times, and every one the thing that does my head in the MOST is how he thinks a ruler putting someone in their birthday suit in stocks in the town square for public gang SA is like…realism Babe, put down the George RR Martin, the h****i, and the fantasy game mods. This was not a thing. Ever. Anywhere.

[@solosynapse]

Not only does he think it's realism, he thinks it's _lawful good._

[@brother-tico4363]

Wow! About these two stories, what a way to ruin your reputation as a DM. One that took longer, and the other that just ruined his own in the first session.

[@SageDarkwind]

What a way to ruin your reputation as a person as well. Seriously, I would get a restraining order on these two sickos.

[@40Kfrog]

Story 1 GM clearly thinks he is playing F.A.T.A.L. and not Pathfinder lol

[@symphony_in_152mm2]

tbh I would have threatened to walk out on that first story's campaign at the point of forcing me to change my class. I made this character that I wanted to play, unless you have a damn good and convincing reason for me to change them, I ain't changing them.

[@morrigankasa570]

I agree with you, DON'T FORCE ANYTHING ON ME OR MY CHARACTERS!!!

[@NomadDreamer85]

That 2nd story went from, "Not liking new players" to "Revealing himself as a sick and twisted psychopath, apparently.", geezus.

[@solosynapse]

Sociopath. Psychopaths can learn to have relatively normal interpersonal relationships, and that DM is clearly incapable.

[@davidtherwhanger6795]

Angry DM story. OH.... MY..... GOD!!!! Another DM/ Player that thinks combat is everything and all characters should be optimized for it. But it doesn't stop there. Oh no! Players not following his preconceived notions about the world that the DM hasn't told them about... DM gets mad at players. DM doesn't actually read the player character info for his players and when something surprises DM when it comes up later... DM gets mad at players. The only good thing about this is they don't play with that DM anymore. Serious bullet dodged here even if it was a grazing shot.

[@sunzi42]

The DM in the second story was seriously "looking for his teeth in a trashbag". He was just not evil to the new player, but in the end, to the entire group.

[@AvatAR42420]

Why is it that people always equate a world where everything sucks and there is no fun or whimsy with "realism"? For the second story I think the DM built up that a newbie player would be a problem. She didn't do anything weird or dumb with her character, but the DM acted like it was a problem because that's what he was expecting. Saying "no, I don't feel like incorporating a brand new player" would have been superior to what he did. Sure, OP might have still left because she wanted to play with her sister, but at least he would not have made a girl cry for the "crime" of trying to interact with his world.

[@informitas0117]

1st story DM was on a patriarchal "sigma" power fantasy trying to look tough while completely missing the point that "real sigmas", if such a thing exists, are kind, accepting and uplifting. All he managed was to show his filthy and sanctimonious inside. Pathetic. Edit: wow the Eri story made me sad. What a POS DM. You are ALLOWED to take care people who had it rough in life in game. You need to be SO careful when choosing DM for people who struggle. I can't imagine how you can behave like that. Again what an ahole. I hope he suffers in life.

[@whensomethingcriesagain]

(They do not exist, the whole concept is basically just LARPing as being an edgy loner)

[@solosynapse]

​@@whensomethingcriesagainThe whole alpha/sigma/beta thing is just astrology for guys who peaked in grade school.

[@benhaver9737]

That first DM: Sorry you can’t handle a more realistic setting. 😡 How the actual medieval world would have reacted to their king doing that: THIS IS SOME MOTHER#%^*ING HERESY!!!!! DEATH TO THE KING!!!!! Followed by every single potential successor raising an army to have him overthrown.

[@ChaosCounseling]

Oh good lord why did you unleash that first story from the depths of hell

[@amberblackwell5614]

Why would a cleric be in a military camp? Even real life military bases and such usually have chaplains who help look after the spiritual and emotional needs of soldiers. This should be even more true in a D&D world? The healing, protective, and divinatory magic of a cleric should be highly valued by any half way competent king or military commander.

[@chariotboi5061]

Even if it's not for spiritual support aren't like, battle medics super freaking important?

[@amberblackwell5614]

@@chariotboi5061 Absolutely. It's so weird that this asshole can't imagine why a military might want someone with the power to raise the dead and heal the sick around.

[@morrigankasa570]

Not all Clerics are Healer Types. It depends on the Sub-Class and Character/Player.

[@amberblackwell5614]

Regardless, any form of magic should be valued in a competent military. A light cleric's fire and radiant damage makes them living artillery. A knowledge cleric's magic makes them a great tactician. a forge cleric's power makes them a perfect quartermaster. ETC ETC ETC.@@morrigankasa570

[@Nazo-kage]

With the second story: I just gotta say how petty and spiteful was that DM to just off or torture everybody else’s character for no reason. I mean seriously what did he expect to happen? He essentially nuked any possibility of DMing for this group again, and he had to know that. Most likely, his problem was that he had a sequel campaign to be played with everybody, but with one extra person, added, it completely messed with what he wanted to do. And instead of adapting, he decided to just go nuclear.

[@axelwulf6220]

Yeah, I have a rule that if you're not at the table, neither is your character, and thus anything that happens to them while you are not there, actually never happens

[@Xylarxcode]

Not gonna lie, that first story had a really good set up to start a villain arc. Introduce the party to dickhead NPC's that are obviously much stronger than the party and force the group to do things against their will, lest they face severe consequences. Have the NPC's attend the same setting as the group to really ramp up the tension and then when graduation day arrives, a full blown rivalry/enmity starts and the once powerful NPC's now realize that the group, after much training, is now much closer in power to them than they realized and is beginning to form a serious threat to their former dominance. You could make a really good story out of that. You have a central setting in the academy, you have your good guys, your bad guys, a plot that can move in many different ways and room for a lot of colorful NPC's. It could have been great. Unfortunately, DM's ego ruined it and turned it into a boring power fantasy. What a shame. I might nick this idea, tweak it a little bit and use it for one of my own campaigns some day, though. I don't watch anime, but in my mind, I'm imagining a version of X-men, only with more of a focus on the teenagers, rather than the adults. Could be really interesting...if not very original, but tbh, most of my campaigns aren't really that original to start with anyway, lol. Doesn't mean they can't be fun, though.

[@RockR277]

That 2nd DM needs a serious dressing down. Surprised no one cussed him out for how he was acting.

[@afunnymans]

“What will the healer do if the rogue or barbarian go down?” …Heal them and get them back in the fight??? It’s in their name for God’s sake.

[@ArcCaravan]

I thought exactly the same thing.

[@solosynapse]

Literally their job in the party? I'm convinced that DM has never read the rules for any classes other than the "macho fighter" types.

[@andrwblood9162]

Like that the angry DM insisted that the party members had to have literally zero contact before formally coming together, as though it was going to be this build up to that meeting. But it's just... oh they meet up adventurer's guild... Wtf?

[@RiveroftheWither]

Frankly it sounds like he wanted to use ops sister as a punching bag and thought the others would join in bullying the adopted disabled child. That's the only way I can make sense as to why he lashed out and punished everyone, even the people who didn't really say or do anything.

[@andrwblood9162]

@@RiveroftheWither I can see it as indulging in vicious actions as a show of superiority, yeah.

[@galiogargoyle6295]

Honestly, I wish what the OP in the first story thought the plot twist in that campaign was actually did happen... Especially since I would absolutely view the so called "heroes" and their king as the real villains in the world if I was a player in that game, no matter what that DM claimed. BUT YEAH, that ending came right out of nowhere!

[@9liveslie-cat-lie129]

The first is an old story that is airship infamous heard a couple times.

[@ArcCaravan]

I honestly think that story was worse than the airship one.

[@9liveslie-cat-lie129]

I figured Airship would be a good enough genre to be put on the category of the worst D&D horror stories ever

[@marchmonarch1684]

DMs like these both need to checked hard they give us DMs from green to veteran a bad name and taste in our mouths.

[@meyatetana2973]

Forced class changes really would piss me off lol I never go back to their table when a DM does that to me

[@finnmchugh99]

1st story i can boil down my reaction to WTF?!?! First of all bulldozing over character backstories and forcing them to change classes is a bad move, then having DMPCs hog the spotlight is another DM taboo broken by him and not only that messed up homophobic stuff going on BUT the IRL attempted patricide over an argument is a red flag thst covers tge sky. I think the griup have dodged a bullet or pen by kicking em out

[@dracone4370]

I still think it could be fun to see Doge turn his cats into a party of D&D characters; maybe Doge could even use his avatar as a template for a new race and character paradoxically leading this party of cats.

[@sandpiperr]

In the first story, the premise sounded interesting to start. A bunch of characters that are at a military academy and most have been conscripted into it. However, my thought was that the story would be about them defeating the oppressive power that conscripted them! Not that the whole campaign was supposed to be about how awesome the NPCs that conscripted them are.

[@solosynapse]

Yea, something tells me that DM is really, weirdly interested in dictatorships & Gor Fantasy...

[@seto_kaiba_]

I’m loving the extra commentary throughout the stories Doge

[@JimAbooGames]

I remember hearing the first story from Crit Crab and Drake, even hearing it from you man it still sounds horrible. I really have an extreme hatred for DMs like this one. Dude just wanted to power trip and show off his own world of things, once again write a book.

[@snyperwulffgaming9575]

Nope, I would have walked the moment the DM forced me to be a class I didn't wanna be. That's not how it works. For the second story, the OP should have stepped forward and pulled the DM aside about the situation. The DM was being a whole prick for nothing. Eri could have been where ever the hell she pleased at the time, and it isn't up to the DM to decide that. Perhaps she, as a Cleric, helps tends to injuries related to training.

[@nekomancer47]

Man the title of that second story is a whole ass isekai light novel title lmao

[@dragonmasterknight7]

The 2nd story is obviously that the DM was unwilling to accommodate a fresh and inexperienced player. Which isn't a bad thing to encounter. New players in any game can be and are a HUGE plus for veteran players because they get to teach them using their own experiences and watch those players grow. What's more though is the DM seemed to be against a more casual and beginners build. Which is stupid. There's nothing wrong with how Eri built her character. Some people are just not fans of high damage or fully combat oriented builds. And starting out small gives a TON of space for greater development later on and encourage the player to make even more creative ideas with the character they made. Like, have the character go through something traumatic that leads them down a path of vengeance. Or have them meet and get inspired by a folk hero legend. But never, and I mean NEVER, do what this DM did. It's childish and leads to close friends splitting up and months of world/ story building to go to waste.

[@shadiafifi54]

Though it does ultimately show what a PoS the DM was, so happy ending eventually. Hope everyone learns of his shitty behavior and he ends up kicked from any and every game he's in. That, or end up with a whole table of That Guys who shit all over his narrative.

[@1kokokala10]

Story 1: Ah yes, the realism of a DMPC literally breaking the laws of reality and an ENTIRE kingdom being straight and okay with public SA. I really hope this guy never plays DnD again.

[@RiamuKingOfTime]

So with the first story I got so very confused about the whole being stripped naked and all the men can men can use them publicly in a kingdom where being gay is outlawed? I just can't wrap my head around how fucking dumb that is.

[@solosynapse]

Incel power fantasy. They quite literally advocate for that becoming normal in society (thankfully none of them have any actual power or influence).

[@Doodle1776]

The second story is when the terrible power gamer becomes the GM and expects everyone to be power gamers who do nothing but optimize their character for combat.

[@greeninja5991]

1st story is already a certified classic, its like the boys but with the writer siding with homelander, 2nd one ¿Did the dm never hear abaut chaplains?

[@solosynapse]

He also never heard of battlefield medics.

[@gavinbock8531]

This first story is so bad, no shot I’m continuing to play under a dm that forces me to switch my class and forces the plot hook from holding my village hostage 🚩🚩🚩nope I’m out, not gonna stay around and watch it get even worse

[@vidmanandrew09]

I’m almost certain I’ve heard that first story from Drake. By the grace of Bahamut, this guy was on a trip!

[@Zeromegas]

That DM plays as the Evil Party of Redo The Healer

[@vernonhampton5863]

This is why, though I am not a fan of the Monty Cook checklist, I am a firm believer in establishing house rules and preventing bleed. Let players know what is acceptable behavior at the table, and stick to it. If you like a lot of grimdark and gore, or you don't like ERP or even queer topics or maybe you do, it's only cool if EVERYONE is cool with it.

[@Mordaedil]

I don't feel that ending came out of nowhere when he basically writes a rape fantasy and forces his players to watch. I am kinda shocked it went even that far, I'd have thrown objections as soon as my character was naked in stocks. That's just... No!

[@RiveroftheWither]

"Who would have thought the homophobic incel with severe control issues, roleplaying rape as a punishment for not doing what he wanted, could POSSIBLY be violent?" Asked literally no one but other incels.

[@ArcCaravan]

@@RiveroftheWither Probably assumed in-game actions aren't the same as IRL crimes.

[@RiveroftheWither]

@@ArcCaravan and had his issues were exclusively in game I would be surprised too, but they weren't. This story has very little to do with characters engaging in a fantasy world and a lot to do with real people showing real issues while playing a game.

[@whitenekos]

1st story i heard initially over at crit crab.

[@shadiafifi54]

I think a couple other r/rpghorrorstories channels mentioned the story as well. It's almost as infamous as the airship story.

[@phoenixkid5688]

Doge my fav dnd puppo, you already shared the first story before

[@ArcCaravan]

That second story DM felt nearly as bad as the first. I honestly don't care about either of these DM's supposedly having IRL troubles (I assume it's entirely their faults anyway), they effectively verbally assaulted people who just wanted to play a game their own way.

[@Thedragonlover95]

Oh I remember the first one! Yeah that there was in fact, messed up. And Honestly I'd quite amiditly should I'd see the red flags

[@feraldruidsftw01]

In thd sevond story op should have chewed out the dm for being an asshole.

[@shadiafifi54]

Like OP said, they were a people pleaser, but they learned from that experience.

[@marybdrake1472]

A cleric wouldn't be in a camp of trained warriors? Who are likely to need a healer? That doesn't make sense. This DM doesn't seem to know what they are doing. edit: Rages in life cleric in Baldur's Gate 3 and healer templar in ESO. You do not bleep with the healer!

[@ArcCaravan]

That DM whining about a healer in a combat party made me think of all the games emphasizing DPS, Tank, and Healer roles. The scenario of "everyone else is down" feels stupid as the cleric could heal them back up.

[@marybdrake1472]

@@ArcCaravan And of course there had to be over the line sex stuff after the petty excuse for a DM destroyed their own campaign too. Mega cringe dude.

[@ArcCaravan]

@@marybdrake1472 Sounded like a desperate thirst for catharsis and spite. It baffles me how that was originally a sequel campaign, like the DM was somehow tolerable before this.

[@marybdrake1472]

@@ArcCaravan Yeah, I'm confused by the DM going firmly off the rails too. It just comes out of nowhere.

[@morrigankasa570]

For the sake of Clerics, it depends on the type of Cleric Sub-Class if they are a Healer or Not. For example: My favorite character I created is A Chaotic Neutral Female Drow Feylost background Death Domain Cleric sworn to the Raven Queen. She isn't the stereotypical Healer Type, she is more the nuke the enemy type with her Spells then if absolutely necessary then she will heal herself & the party with potions/medicine kit preferably.

[@ShyBiiteVT]

I guess it's now a right of passage for each DnD youtuber to read that first story. That DM was a complete and utter scumbag and frankly should've been permanently banned from the store for what he did at the end of the game. I'd like to imagine that OP and her group continued that game without the scumbag, but have his DMPCs be revealed to actually be evil tyrants who used powerful magic to make the entire kingdom believe they were legendary heroes. All so OP and friends can have the satisfaction of tearing down and destroying the DMs precious characters.

[@Kierawolf]

Personally I would like to make the 1st story but also try to fix it with the intent of making it so they can lead a revolt against the kingdom and have the dmpcs and king the bbeg.

[@warpstar4282]

I would like this King 👑 except there won't be no chance to renounce

[@theofficerfactory2625]

I usually listen to your stories but always watch when the kitties are on screen. Cause... cats. Hello Nipsy! Story 1: Amusing user name. Oh! A pathfinder horror story! Rarer than "that girl" stories. RWBY is pronounced ruby; just a FYI. Oh god; this story! It's been what feel like years since I last heard this story! My DMPC are gods! Bow down to them! What? It's realistic! (How many times we have heard that excuse! Realism = terrible; crappy campaigns where everyone hates the party) Oh wow; fratricide! Just when I thought I was being a bad DM; a story like this comes along. Lucky and Alice? Story 2: That title; oof. Awww; poor Eri with her backstory. Best friend MVP with the books. DM; you suck. I LOVE Eri's character's backstory. I'd allow that cause it gives me room to have fun with this. I HATE this guy as a fellow DM. I super hate this DM. I have half a dozen plus characters that are left behind by players that came and left but they remain in my world. What a creep; sexist a**hole. New DM is awesome!!!!

[@dead_vibes]

Can DM's stop with the DMPC's. How can they not read the room? If no one is liking youre Chad McThunderCock self insert DMPC then talk to them afterward the session and remove them.

[@shadiafifi54]

They invest too much of themselves into the character(s) and have the insight and self-awareness of a damp wooden block. If they cared for anyone at the table, they would have actually made a fun game. Instead, they're trying to run a game that's fun for them and only them, and then get angry when nobody gives a crap about their two-dimensional trash DMPCs.

[@ArcCaravan]

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Granted that can only go so far.

[@REfan2002]

Here's my take in the last story, DM was probably getting fed up with players from past games trying to ruin his story of a world and when OP's sister said she was with the camp full of Paladins, that's when he snapped

[@gurmyigoll3535]

I don't care that he's fed up, acting in this childish manner will not engender support from the players. When he said, "I don't know, can you?" declare him a shit DM and that everyone else should leave his campaign.

[@REfan2002]

@@gurmyigoll3535 I was not defending him, if he did that to anyone of my siblings who played DnD, then they can kick rocks

[@Jakepearl13]

Home of phobia

[@monikasernek1177]

Someone should tell both DM that "free use" and "breeding" tropes are used on male characters too. For the record - I stumbled upon that (disgusting) flavor of offbrand by accident and anytime I hear about dnd players or DM do this I get sick to my stomach.

[@RiveroftheWither]

In my experience, one of the best ways to deal with an ERP forcing creep is to just flip it on them. These people tend to be so engrossed in pursuing ERP or controlling the narrative that they just ignore any out of character protests and keep pushing and pestering. So you ruin the fantasy, he says you're naked, in stocks and "free use" for being gay? Well you rp out how the non binary Diety of LGBTQ comes down from the heavens, swaps you and your girlfriend out for the King and his favorite dmpc and turns all those excited of age men gay. Shuts that shit down real quick. Though in this case it's probably for the best she didn't do that since she was in pen stabbing range. Best used when online only.

[@fylimar]

What's it with DMs and putting female characters through SA fantasies? Luckily, I never met someone doing that, but a lot of the stories here seem to revolve around that. It makes me honestly sad. And I would have just took my stuff and left, had the DM from the first story tried to do something like he did to barbarian and sorcerer to my character. I would also have alerted the shop owner, because I believe, that people coming up with that kind of stuff, are not unproblematic. At the very least, they make others uncomfortable, and the worst - well, they stab their parents in the head. It could also have ended with the guy trying to make his sick fantasies real.

[@starofjustice1]

It disturbs me that I've come to say "oh great, another Charm Person r*pist" when I listen to these D&D horror story channels.

[@grim7237]

Am I crazy or have I heard the first story from doge before

[@BlueTressym]

I don't know but I recognised it; I think it's one that's made the rounds.

[@samontebanks410]

i've seen the first one, it was done by critcrab, i hope that dude was banned from the store

[@andrewbyrne2173]

Whilst the second story DM is awful, you shouldn’t invite people to the game without talking to your DM first.

[@KingZNIN]

I don't think it really matters especially since they were starting a new game. Especially since the DM is a disgusting creep

[@vampire9545]

Oh! I was woken up early and couldn't sleep before work?! Doge saves the day! Also I LOVE any queer DND horror story - they are always the most absurd stories/situations.

[@CheshireCatMystic]

RWBY is pronounced “Ruby” by the way… just wanted to put it out there.

[@shadiafifi54]

Wait, so it's not "Ruwuby", "Rude Bees", "Ruwumby" or "Kangaruby"? Damn you for lying to me, JelloApocalypse!!

[@iank472]

Let me rewrite the second storys ending: the entire pantheon rose up with the aid of the characters and the rallied masses to overthrow the worthless, pathetic overgod of the realms. They bound him in chains of his own inadequacies that seared his flesh and mind with the burning fury of his impotence for the rest of eternity. The player characters went on to aid the gods in rebuilding the realms into a better, safer place for the weak and downtrodden.

[@starofjustice1]

No offense doge but "RWBY" is pronounced "Ruby"

[@Wordweaver166]

I don't know, "Radouble-uby" doesn't just roll of the tongue but also does cartwheels and flicflacs... :)

[@ninjabluefyre3815]

None of the RPGhorrorstories readers seem to have heard of it.

[@zacharysieg2305]

Are you sure it’s not “rah-WOO-bee”? 😂

[@thehowlinggamer5784]

Think I heard that first story on another channel. Still doesnnegate the cringe worthiness of it...

[@Creshosk]

DM: "All these horrible things happen to your characters.: "Nah, none of that happens. You're dismissed you horrible failure of a hack writer. Good bye. Oh, and if you try to claim that anything happens I'll sue you for copyright infringement, since I made my character they are my intellectual property. You're dismissed you untrained monkey."

[@zachraynor7008]

Is the audio messed up?

[@Byzantine_Orthodox_Christian]

Based DM.

[@Random_Chiroptera]

"Homophobia" First of all, -phobia implies overwhelming fear, not just angsty dislike, so I'm already taking OP's side of the story with a grain of salt, so to speak. I take this kind of dishonest phrasing with the same distrust as i do calling Homosexuality, "Homoerotic Fetishism". That said, as far as the RP plot of that campaign was going. Overpowered DMPCs are usually a red flag. However could indeed be a setup for an interesting plot twist. Still, if you're going to do a revolution plot, step 1 is to NOT antagonize the BBEG when you're still a bunch of weak rookies. I'll agree that DM pulled several dick moves that were going WAY too far, but i have my doubts about OP's claims of being an experienced player as well. Telling the King, "We're sorry, your highness, we didn't realize. Each of us are simple folk from the countryside." Or something to that affect and appeasing him, while harboring those feelings in secret, would have been the wiser maneuver. Putting up a stubborn front in the heart of enemy territory, surrounded by jacked DMPCs is just begging for a smackdown. Also, medieval theocratic kingdom, deeming that sort of thing illegal? Totally not unvelievable. Take a look at any classic fascist dictatorship, either IRL, or in sci-fi or fantasy, and there's usually this strong theme of everything that doesn't serve a useful purpose to the state is a waste of resources and therefore bad, thus illegal. Well, that's my point of view anyway.

[@JacobL228]

13:53 That's like one of those super long manga titles that doubles as a summary. Did they think a title is the same thing as a TL;DR? I'm also not quite sure this all true. For one thing, the adopted sister is said to have "a disability" with no further explanation, and she apparently slept on the floor like a stereotypical orphan girl, and for another thing, the DM is such a bad guy caricature that it's just comical, and of course, the OP is the white knight older sibling that defends their poor little sister from the terrible villain DM. If this isn't fake, there's at least some stuff left out and/or embellished.

[@shadiafifi54]

I see you've finally come across the infamous DMPC Academy story. Yeah, that guy had... *massive* issues.

[@ArcCaravan]

Hopefully that guys issues don't become someone else's problem.

[@CooperAATE]

Uh oh I'm late! Oh well, time to enjoy some Doge

[@krystlvines]

RWBY is pronounced ruby

[@Kiiko_Asura]

Stories of Homophibic people like in that first story is part of why I stopped playing IRL games. That second story was so sad... glad it ended happy!

[@ksadiablo]

This story, again?! I know I've heard you (and several other rpg reactionaries) pick this story apart. Can't watch, too familiar.

[@Toto-95]

totally happened and not make belief victimization for real for real

[@doublea2519]

Chad DM

[@SnaxTheSnaxolotl]

Heyooo

[@MarquisLeary34]

This may be a unpopular take, but I stand by it. If you're a non confrontational, society anxiety type, TTRPG's are probably not for you. You have to be equipped mentally to call out bullshit and abusive behavior by DM's or PC's when it crops up, or it just gets worse for everyone else.

[@BlueTressym]

Assertiveness is a LEARNED SKILL. Far too many people don't get taught it at a young age and a considerable number of people (me included) are actively punished for it. Yes, you're right that those are skills that need to be learned but people aren't static so talking about them as if those are actual 'types' instead of simply skills not everyone has learned is wrong. Effectively saying they shouldn't get to play is not reasonable in the slightest and given how large the overlap between "People who struggle with assertiveness, self-esteem and people management skills," and "People who play TTRPGs," is effing HUGE, that's excluding a lot of people. Not to mention that TTRPGs are used in some settings specifically to help people develop those skills. People skills take time, effort, and HELP to learn later on. You're veering dangerously in the direction of victim-blaming here.

[@thephantomspectator407]

Oh, HELLS, NO! That first "DM" should have had the crap kicked out of him and been forcibly evicted from the table, the campaign, the gamestore, and life itself!🔪🩸💀