Honda Civic Type R FL5 vs FK8 Which Is Better?

This video compares almost every feature of the new 2023 Honda Civic Type R FL5 vs the Civic Type R FK8. Which one is the better car? The Power, Track cooling, Styling, wheels, aero, interior, seats, tech and more will all be compared in this video. 2017 - 2021 Civic Type R & Honda 2023 - 2024 Civic Type R
Thank You to Chris at ScienceOfSpeed for your help and support with this video #Honda #HondaCivic #CivicTypeR #Intheknow #2023CivicTypeR

[@bmxrider925]

Fk8 if you’re in you’re 20s. Fl5 if you’re in your 30s. But the fk8 again if you’re in your 40s+ and want to feel young again 😅

[@radovankovacic9731]

You cannot insure a fk8 ctr in australia if your under 30 same with fl5. That comes from a fk8 ctr owner. Cheers.

[@GNP999]

Wholeheartedly agree with this statement. Lol

[@Democratsknowbidensucks]

@@radovankovacic9731 haha at 19 they insured my s2k no problem here in florida. Only catch was it was 360 usd a month. Now at 27 type r costs 120 a month so a little less painful.

[@mybloodtype_r]

35 and love my fk8

[@jeyanthank8391]

Very well said..42 and FK8 :)

[@PhyFK8]

Both rock. I consider it having the same car with 3 different skins between fk8, fl5, and Integra type S. There’s an option for everyone 👍🏻

[@orangefirepearlfb6]

Keep it up HPJ! You're truly an inspiration ✨️ 💛 😎

[@HondaProJason]

thank you so much

[@dashawnlang3888]

Have owned both and both great cars im a current owner of a boost blue fl5

[@edwardinvegas]

Forget the Type-R's...that garage is unreal with the Acura NSX and the S2000 on the lift...

[@HondaProJason]

Yes! So many amazing builds in this shop

[@kevinc2332]

Facts

[@GNP999]

I think you’re right Jason. The fl5 is more of a hot-sedan and the fk8 is a true hot hatch.

[@DindoVergara]

i love both civic type R. looking forward to own one.

[@cryxbaby2250]

All I see with all this tech is expensive repairs in the future haha.

[@lafiesta1197]

Fk8 for the win

[@jeremywong6219]

Fk8 looks much better

[@TheGrowOp]

Ah woulda been cool to see a comparison of the 2020 refresh model because a lot of those aero tweaks on the new one were added

[@michaelhoehne9500]

Für das, was der FL 5 bietet, kostet er viel zu viel. Ich liebe das extrovertierte Aussehen des FK 8. Wenn man mir beide hinstellen würde und ich müsste einen wählen, ich würde wieder den FK 8 wählen. Ich habe meinen Bj. 2017 geliebt. 52000 km ohne ein einziges Problem, dafür TONS OF FUN

[@lafiesta1197]

I like the tech In the fl5. I wish there was a patch or hack to upgrade my current one

[@user-tu3hl2vc5p]

the FL5 is more on the executive class like the BMW M3 but both are really great cars for me

[@type_one]

can you do a video for interior/infotainment/camera differences? and how its like to daily/actually drive them?

[@based_will]

Agreed all this video showed was the new one. I want a back to back comparison

[@cooleye7007]

FK8 for me, more aggressive.

[@machichuan]

Just curious, dose the fl5 exhaust fits on the fk8. beside of the valve system.🤔

[@user-tu3hl2vc5p]

FK8 and FL5 are both awesome

[@HondaProJason]

I agree 100%

[@user-tu3hl2vc5p]

but the FK8 looks much meaner than the FL5

[@alvingevbharo2480]

Fk8 is good looking more aggressive

[@SewerGang]

i’m waiting for the last year of the fl5. hopefully the markups aren’t too crazy by then

[@opadilla123]

I would go for the acura integra type s

[@SewerGang]

@@opadilla123 I have a dealership near me thats willing to let one go for msrp but the car being made in the us is kinda sketching me out. it basically comes down to whichever car appeals to me when the time comes a couple of years from now

[@SewerGang]

@@VidNibs I agree. I was always told never to buy the first model of anything new lol. btw whats the LE?

[@ahkau4612]

4th to 5th gear shifting gate/feel - any difference between FL5/FK8

[@mocte4015]

I love the FK8, I feel like with the new model they stripped away whatever made the Honda Civic, a Honda Civic. Now it looks like downgraded version of an Accord, without insulting the Accord tho. I want an Fk8 so bad but sometimes I look at the Accord and makes me enter a conflict inside my mind lol

[@muscles909]

They wanted it to look more like a daily driver. Less aggressive and more subtle. I chose the FK 8 because it looks aggressive. My FK 8 is only for the track. The Fl5 is more passive. It’s like the GTI.

[@MC_DOOM]

I want the FL5 so bad I hate dealerships mark ups

[@richurro20]

Lookswise, I much prefer the FK8 , but I really like the interior design of the Fl5. I guess that's why I went and got a Golf R instead.

[@Firewolf35023]

Adding the gascap was a wise decision and leaves less of a possibility for failure with the fuel system. Last thing you need is to have to end a track day due to a faulty pressure relief valve. Basically it brings down the possible cost of maintenance.

[@HondaProJason]

but once you get use to not having a gas cap, it’s so hard to go backwards

[@andrewosimowicz3960]

Do you have data to prove that theory? The capless system seems to work really well if you track your car or not

[@Firewolf35023]

@@andrewosimowicz3960 had a 2016 ford focus st that was capless. The pressure release valve kept going out and was allowing the system to pull the tank into a vacuum. It was and still is an issue with the majority of the cars that are capless. Those valves are around 100-150 dollars a piece just for the part. That’s not including labor. I’ve both replaced it myself and had a mechanic do it.

[@Firewolf35023]

@@HondaProJason difficult, but not impossible.

[@Firewolf35023]

@@andrewosimowicz3960 doesn’t matter if it’s on the track or on the road. If/when that valve goes out it’s gonna be hella pricey. Honda spared themselves the bs and went back to using a gas cap. It was done for further ease of use and to lessen the number of parts used which also contributes to weight loss which also boosts its power to weight ratio. Doesn’t up it by much but, it still ups it and allows for further reliability.

[@kgthegreatone943]

The FL5 is more grown up

[@HondaProJason]

i agree with that

[@jfz313]

Sorry, but the boring styling of the fl5 doesn't turn heads like the fk8.

[@HondaProJason]

Yes, looks are subjective but the FK8 does have a lot more going on

[@liamzulficari8729]

Not true in our town I have FL5 and one more dude and a few FK8s is around. Sorry but to noone FK8 is not interesting and everyones asking about ours FL5. Wherever we go. FL5 is a mans car. Mature car. FK8 is more teenagers car in my opinion not for real men. Grown men.

[@michaelwatson5747]

OMG OMG ... Lol! Just picked up a new HR-V for my wife and that little plastic thing on the back wheel well had us perplexed. Man! 😂

[@HondaProJason]

lol happy to help

[@da-yh3uy]

something you didnt note is that the fl5 diffuser is an actual functional one and not aesthetic like the fk8

[@b3rs]

They look almost the same...

[@noelsolis7571]

I liked the FK8 🚘💪❤🇵🇭

[@HondaProJason]

me too

[@g0d182]

3:35 ⚫⚫in fk8 here they are functional according to Honda press release (to help extract heat) They are also several open holes where you can see stuff from the engine bay through the vents KZbin: "Functional Stock/OEM Side Fender Vents Walkaround, fk8 Type R"

[@Driv300mph]

Yeah, he got that wrong which is surprising since he owned one

[@deveg6]

I will take the Fl5, much more lookin better😁

[@kimparedes1920]

Massive increase in cooling in the fl5 yet still overheats hahahaha... the design where the turbo is etc is garbage in these engines... and regarding performance, well, it's all down to a remap and they are the same again probably, i don't see anything that justifies the price difference between the fk8 and the fl5... i think the fk8 was like 42k euros in spain and fl5 is around 60k....

[@lamesamelame]

4:04 FL5 has a Hood Vent aka “Heat Extractor”, Not a Hood Scoop. Those Stupid “Cap Less” fuel necks are causing malfunction codes in evaporation systems. Costs over $100 and part takes an hour installing. FL5 cap costs $20 and installs in seconds..

[@Anything.is.Possible]

It feels like the new typeR gives less car for the money. Maybe a refresh will happen soon to address the cosmetic needs. I feel a carbon fiber ground effects kit would make it feel more TypeR.

[@TheFK8Life]

FL5 is better all around - it's FK8 evolved

[@johnconnor7501]

I like the wing on the old one do.

[@TheFK8Life]

@johnconnor7501 I like my fk8 too - just Honda making it "better"

[@theFORZA66]

​@@johnconnor7501nah that wing looks stupid af. New wing is wayy better

[@g0d182]

fl5 loses on some tracks, and loses decisively in roll race. It's regressed in some ways

[@richurro20]

its really not that substantial over last gens type r.

[@ulysses4989]

The rims on the fk8 look better imo

[@Itsdjsigi]

Might buy another fk8 🤔

[@HondaProJason]

Awesome

[@Whitehatch_Checo]

I honestly like have a gas cap over the cap less ones because the capless ones leak a lot

[@rolandsalles584]

But no one talks about this huge screen, very poorly positioned in the middle of the dashboard and much too high...? This seems to me to be the real fault compared to the FK8, which has a completely clear field of vision... I wonder if we can drive on the circuit with this "wart"...

[@leeronfagan6960]

I prefer the Fl5r over the FK8R because of the looks.

[@b3rs]

So you waited for it to come out to buy it?

[@liamzulficari8729]

So my opinion. If you are young (teenager) from 18-28 years old FK8. If you are grown mature men then definitely FL5. Feels better, looks better, more mature. And a lot more pluses…..

[@sakurakos88]

The nsx and s2000 tho...

[@3AlbertoGonzalezjr]

Fk8 DOES NOT SHARE REAR QUARTERS, rear bumper, from the civic hatch The entire front end and rear end is different from a stock car if you think a fk8 rear bumper bolts to a civic sport your not a pro

[@hartmutthomas989]

Meine Meinung ist , daß sich Honda mit dem FL5 von seinem sehr eigenwilligen provozierenden Stil völlig losgelöst hat . Diesen wirklich sehr langweiligen Abschluss hat dieser Civic Type R einfach nicht verdient . My opinion is that with the FL5 Honda has completely detached itself from its very idiosyncratic provocative style. This Civic Type R just didn't deserve this really very boring conclusion.😢

[@g0d182]

Fl5 needs a slightly better turbo, to offset the extra weight over fk8 ⚫⚫⚫⚫⚫⚫It wins on some, but loses on some tracks, and loses to fk8 decidedly in a roll race probably because of the weight, despite fk8 being on continentals.

[@RobertJToledo]

The FL5 looks waayyy better. I'd buy the FL5 over the FK8 all day. Of course, I'd buy the Integra Types S over both of those.

[@brhardi48326]

Wish you could get an integra type s with the fl5 seats and Gauge cluster

[@b3rs]

6:30 kinda dumb... They should just let you customize all the modes. I'd just unify the steering across all of them and that's it. No need for another mode.

[@AimForTheBushes908]

Capless fuel systems are worse actually

[@baegyu6715]

FL5 for me for sure. looks refined and sleek. low key. FK5 ....please look at me i am a boy racer wannabee on legal road

[@radovankovacic9731]

I had more credibility from Mr Honda Pro before this video. What a shallow bloke. Other than the hidden hinges on the fk8, everything else, everyone already knows. You mention the fl5 is heavier? No. Because you now own an fl5.

[@jameswillard1]

So you determined he’s a shallow bloke after this video? He was pointing out differences and even said some of the things on the FK8 were better…..I mean manufacturers evolve their cars and majority of changes are a result of trying to improve the new model in some way

[@berlinmae07]

IM IN MY 50S AND I PREFER THE AGGRESSIVENESS LOOK OF THE FK8.

[@vaughnpeterson4634]

FK8. It’s a type R. Not an SI.

[@Trica5tin]

FL5 is better but FK8 is faster. :)

[@Xchax3]

Fl5 is faster on a track FK8 has a faster 0-60. If you're prioritizing straight-line speed in a Type R, then you're buying or using a Type R for the wrong reasons.

[@averagepal572]

@eddiepadilla8168 That's not quite true... the FL5 is better on short tracks because of the 265 tyre. However, it's slower around the nurburgring than the Face lift and LE Fk8 so Honda made the "Type-R S" to regain the lap time.

[@averagepal572]

Cooling isn't fixed.... can't even do one hot lap at the Nurburgring. It reaches 150 degrees celcuis and dies. Fk8 is better 😉

[@Vermonstered]

That's simply what happens when you have a guy trying to break into being a youtuber and trying to be first. It's simply HIS car that's modified stupid. There's plenty of other laps that show it's not the FL5, just Dream Automotive's horrible decisions.

[@averagepal572]

@@Vermonstered That's simply not true because the stock FL5 following behind had the same issues, dreams was just being driven harder.... on a stock tune.

[@Vermonstered]

@@averagepal572 Incorrect. Check any of the laps, hell, check the record setting lap. It doesn't suffer anywhere near this level of overheating. It's one terrible tuner going on a taxi lap that overheated. Misha doesn't drive these on the limit, he literally can't, as he has next to zero seat time in any of these cars. He drives them at around 8/10ths, well within his limit and the traffic he has to negotiate with. Learn a little bit before investing all your faith into one horribly modified car.

[@averagepal572]

@Vermonstered Again you're wrong, the FL5 lap record setting car is a "Type-R S" and has different gearing, different boost and isn't a car you'll own. Dreams car isn't tuned or horribly modified. Honda claimed the heating issues were fixed but obviously they're not.

[@Vermonstered]

@@averagepal572 Then take a look at Ali's car or a bunch of others. Isn't one of your excuses that it was driven so hard on a taxi lap that its overheating? The record lap is driven harder... You holding up dream's car as the ultimate standard is now idiotic with how many excuses you're making for the simple case HIS car overheats for something he did. No one else's does in the first 3 minutes of a lap

[@cplogs3828]

Say whatever you like about the FL5 being better. The FK8 takes a giant dump on the FL5 for looks. There is no comparison. The FL5 looks plain and boring.

[@tinytimtations3767]

Ruuf

[@miguelvelazquez9885]

Got nothing from this video lmaoo

[@opadilla123]

Fk8 is better and fl5 may have more hp on paper but both on a roll fk8 still whoops the fl5 i stayed with my fk8 and bought a nice Elantra N it has more features plus has the sound crazy ,fk8 is more aggressive looking , honda left the aggressiveness for the new Acura Integra type s

[@Xchax3]

If you're getting a Type R to drag race, than you're getting a Type R for the wrong reason. There's more bodyroll in the FK8 than the FL5... The FL5 is known for being a rougher ride with its rigid suspension and being lower + wider in all aspects including its tires. I agree the FK8 is more aggressive looking, I just think the FL5 is a return to form to actually looking like an evolution of the Civic (a bit of EK9 and a bit of FD2) instead of a Gundam like the FK2 and wonky FN2 evolution. The Acura Integra Type S would cater with the tacked on fender flares similar to the FK8. All in all, the FL5 is better and the purpose of a Type R is to be ready for circuit racing, not our American fascination with going in a straight line all the time.

[@brhardi48326]

FK8 design is aging poorly looking like some weirdass Hyundai. FL5 the front looks OK, and the rear looks pretty good. Integra type S looks beautiful all around. Wish you could get an FL5 interior with ITS exterior.

[@HondaProJason]

And this is why looks are subjective

[@brhardi48326]

@@HondaProJason nah fk8 is objectively hideous

[@djpanda9277]

I still would not buy one, I'm very happy with my volkswagen mk8

[@mickydrake1278]

honda pro "lacking" jason

[@Xchax3]

Is this supposed to be an insult?

[@user-nb3xu6fl9q]

Absolutely hate the FL5, Honda had one last shot and missed, too heavy, too big, looks awful and hasn't moved the game on in 5 years, infact you could say they've gone backwards....someone gotta speak the truth...maybe if it was 15k less it might be worth a look.

[@theFORZA66]

Fl5 looks way better. Fk8 has a lot of styling bits i really like but the overall package looks ridiculous