Honda CRF 250L - I found some new green lanes!

Honda CRF250L - I found some new green lanes! It's been a while since my trusty Honda CRF250L featured on the channel but do not despair she is still going strong and I love her just as much as ever....out of all my bike I still think this is the best smiles per pound spent! On a sunny day earlier in the summer I scoured the local OS maps and found myself a couple of local green lanes to explore...here's how I got on!
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[@paulnewman7037]

If you pay the £17 a year subscription you get all versions of the OS maps and it connects with your GPS and overlays your position on the map like a SatNav You can plan routes in it too. Great vid as ever

[@benstabile8493]

Great entertainment! Reminds me of my first riding experiences on minibikes (Rupp, something or other): farmland and residential construction sites. Many of us have probably been chasing that "first go round" forever after. Here in the States, "green lanes" are a dime a dozen. But the experience and joy of riding "rough" (mildly challenging surfaces suffice) is universal fun. Thanks!

[@kyotosal]

Glad you made it out safely Sir. Thanks again for another great video........Sal : )

[@davidbaines7014]

Great video again TMF. Very good detailing. Very enjoyable

[@davereinhart9933]

Thank you for taking us on a ride on British green lanes.

[@Phil-1969]

Nice to see you around Risborough, I’m from there

[@iangriffiths9930]

Hey Andy, why don’t you contact your local TRF and ask if you can tag a long? Would make a nice future on the channel.

[@dsimon9s29]

Thank you for posting. Sounds like finding some proper roads for your Honda is quite the challenge.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Sadly around here...it is :0(

[@duncanblanchard334]

Great colours on that camera, really made everything pop. Nice video 😁😁.

[@lord.onk99]

That made a change, nice little run out. Love that Honda, reminds me of my XT 500 years back. Very entertaining.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Ken!

[@thesilverfoxtravels6653]

Great bit of breakfast viewing, look forward to seeing more...!👍

[@georgehatcher8867]

Got a CRF Rally this summer having watched Mr Fish antics. Amazing how many green lanes there are in north Surrey and kent

[@paulclarke1233]

Hi tmf , great fun vid good to see you having a good time and getting about and hope you have many more adventures off road and videoing them as you go and we get to see where you go .look forward to more Paul of oldbury westmidlands

[@springy-2112]

It's a cracking little bike young Mr flyer, I used to find standing up on the long grass deep rut bits was less dangerous but I'm not riding down a green lane on a 250 at present 👍🏻very enjoyable video Sir..peace and love brother 👍🏻☮❤

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers springy!

[@DavidHarbottle]

Tnx for taking us on that ride with you :-) Personally, I find the stop-start nature of navigating like you are doing really irritating when I'm trying to ride and navigate at the same time. So, as a solution, I pre-plan my route (on desktop mapping software) before setting off, and upload it to my nav tool (I use a garmin, but you could use your phone) and use that to guide me. Uninterupted riding is a joy :-)

[@alexbristol5199]

David, that is an excellent idea, please can you give more details, which desktop mapping software do you suggest we could start with? Also do you know a good phone app that we can upload the route as I understand Google Maps removed this facility some time ago, but I could be mistaken as I clearly know little on this subject? Thanks.

[@DavidHarbottle]

@@alexbristol5199 Hi Alex. For off-road navigation you really need to use Ordinance Survey maps (1:50,000 series). I use Mapyx Quo software, which is free to download, but you have to buy the OS maps as tiles (cheap enough). There are others. Using Quo, you can create routes, and export to GPX files, which can be imported to all mobile navigation tools (inc google maps).

[@Banditmanuk]

Nice going, would have been interesting watching you do those lanes after yesterday's rain.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Dry trails make ALL the difference don’t they....

[@grahaminkpen5436]

You just have to watch TMF, love your no nonsense delivery of info.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you Graham - appreciated!

[@leetrevarthen]

Great to see you using the Quad Lock. I did tell my mate Chris, who's the owner, he should send you some bits ;) I get no vibs on my Duke 690.

[@markbur1503]

You used to be able to ride most of the Ridgeway from Kingston Blount to Marlborough. En route you did come across some dubious homemade signs saying No Motor Vehicles. However these were unofficial and thus we took no notice. 2 Wheels cause very little damage unlike the 4x4 mud pluggers..Speak with the TRF they are the best people to tell you about legal green laneing... Great video Andy.

[@colindeans5972]

Well done TMF, some proper man stuff off roading there :-) I had my first off road adventure last year on a CRF, it was brill, laugh out loud fun. Ended up with a fractured hand and broken finger (enthusiasm far out weighed ability) but loved every minute.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Oops!

[@rickp9946]

Nice vid - I bottled it the other day when I got to that grassy section as it had been raining and I basically wasn't moving on the original tyres. Took me ages to turn the bl**dy thing round - novice off-roader! Bit of a warning though - apparently the only definitive map of BOATs is with the local council. The OS maps are indicative only and things could have moved on - for example temporary restrictions or closures. There aren't always notices up to show this. Or, worse, the notices haven't been taken down and the ramblers have a go at you - like when I was on the one that starts near Little Kimble!

[@hartley383]

Great Vid TMF, really enjoyed that. Recently did an overseas tour with a fair bit of "off road" type riding (Well they were roads but not as we know them). Certainly whetted my appetite. Considering a Royal Enfield Himalayan. Idea being that it will be OK to get me to the green lanes further afield.

[@stevelong6358]

Great stuff TMF..

[@philiplindley7384]

*TMF, out on a bike* - White Van Boss: " OK boys, go get 'im".😀😂

[@markdaws5476]

Good tip on the OS Maps

[@irishflyer6377]

Hi Andy, thanks for sharing. If you ever feel like a trip down to Surrey (Around Guildford/Dorking) there are lots of good Green Lanes, I published one yesterday and will do a few more soon.

[@radmantommy8015]

Hi tmf what a nice day for green lanes the honda lovely bike for it nice job. Will be looking forward to the Spain's green lanes nice 👌👌😊

[@mikeball5883]

Been using quad lock for a while now it’s a great idea

[@returnrider4952]

Nice going. Enjoyed that. I have gloves that are touch sensitive but only use them to stop/start my gopro via the app. I stop like u do for navigation. All good fun and part of exploring. Cheers.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I agree....

[@LambChopRides]

Have myself enduro bikes sorted for 2 months over the Winter and I cant wait to get out there!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

How do you go about finding legal lanes Chopsie?

[@Mrfish2015]

You’ll only end up at the pub 😉

[@WatermarquePaul]

Enjoyed that TMF, inspired me to take a cheeky day off work and do some on the Vstrom :)

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Nice one!

[@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse]

Looks a nice easy trail and fine weather for a blat about but you should have shut both gates ,safety first My Flyer.

[@richardd9976]

Makes me a bit wistful for the nice weather. However, I'm off into the Peak District this morning - and never mind that it's a bit chilly.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

At least it's sunny today!

[@richardd9976]

@@TheMissendenFlyer It sure was! i.postimg.cc/fbdhB0Ft/IMG-5294-2.jpg

[@atastefortheroad4475]

I find it comforting that even on green lanes you still receive a full white van experience. ;-0

[@mark3863]

I too ride a CRF250L and take it into any green lane I can find and one of the best things on those rides is stopping half way and enjoying the solitude and birds. Really good for the soul.

[@mickaugood9820]

Sole, lol, putting your feet up then

[@mark3863]

Hi Mike, thanks for that 😀 One of the hazards being dyslexic. Correction has been made👍🏻

[@Jake-yy9fg]

Love the crf videos, they’re what brought me to this channel originally. Ive got the 250 rally. I found those maps difficult to use, my tactic to find green lanes is to use google maps on satelite view. Scan around the rural areas until you find a rough looking road and then you can check it with street view. Works in buxton anyway. Theres loads that i couldn’t find on the survey map

[@robh952]

Jake, just look at Bywaymap.com. The green lines are byways.

[@Jake-yy9fg]

@@robh952 yeah except that only shows some of them. there's loads more than whats on there.

[@SteveWKk]

How do you like the Rally? Happy with it?

[@jackchristodoulou197]

Love sometimes getting off my road bikes and getting on my DR650 for some dirt riding.

[@sharpbends]

Nice and green in those green lanes :-)

[@PowerPete999]

Suggestion on an earlier post to contact your local TRF is a good shout. I could take you around the Hampshire lanes, they are awesome, but if you want a more local guide then the Oxford TRF may be better.

[@Bazza47]

Sadly there's no BOATs within easy reach of me as Worcestershire county council have closed what few there were but good to see others are able to ride them where they live

[@neilb4297]

Come up to the Peak District TMF , some nice gnarly trails to stretch your trail riding. My CRF takes it all in its stride👍🏼

[@dannyracer25]

Great video Tmf.keep them coming thanks from Danny

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Willco...

[@bikerbuddy3166]

Another good watch 😎☝️ my off road skills are about the same so I did find myself lol 😂 thinking that’s so me 😎👌

[@MTBrider26]

yes I agree that it is very important that you only annoy people when it is absolutely necessary and with some people the need to annoy them is almost implied. LOL

[@randykawasaki]

MSF there's site called Dorset Explorer which actually covers the whole country using OS maps inc up to the largest scale. Allows you to integrate with navigation on your phone. Free and extremely useful but you do need a data signal to get started.

[@karlosh2422]

The second green lane looks like it allows cars. I would love to see a car try it !

[@ChuckFickens1972]

All "green lanes" that are "byways open to all traffic" (BOAT) allow cars. They are an unpaved public highway, they have the same access laws as your local high street, they are literally a public road that just happens to have not been paved. You can check your local area ones by looking for the "Definitive Map" for your locality (they have to have one) and if a path is listed as a "BOAT" you can drive any road legal vehicle along it (TAXed insured, and MOT'd) and it's legal, if a private individual tries to stop you or blocks the way they are breaking the law. Here's the Essex one... www.essexhighways.org/getting-around/public-rights-of-way/prow-interactive-map.aspx

[@peterwrench4416]

Agreed, the CRF would be the most "fun" bike. Of all the bikes I've owned I have to admit it was my old XL250R that I had the most fun on.

[@2wat205]

Excellent!

[@glenwhyte2555]

Great that crf 👍

[@arthurgatward7369]

Love the Psycho music for the white vans.

[@karlosh2422]

You beat me to the comment!

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

"out of all my bikes I still think this is the best smiles per pound". I feel the same about my Honda NC750. Compared to my 'Busa it's a slug, but actually I find it way more fun for the majority of the riding I do. Must be getting old lol......

[@keiths-teeth]

Some say the NC could go green laning, bet it would get scratched up

[@donkey1007]

Hi TMF.I use view ranger. Similar app. Plot your route before you ride. You should use your phone in portrait mode. It's like following directions on a sat nat that way. . Must say I've brought a couple of the quad locks for both my bikes. They really are very good 👍

[@robh952]

Nice lanes you found TMF! I rode a few new ones too a couple of weeks back, some really great bits but as always some dreaded ruts too🙁 If I don't fall off I can convince myself I'm getting better at riding them😂Ive fitted some wider foot pegs which are more comfortable standing up on my CRF too?

[@lynsmith1096]

Good video TMF

[@krishampton7060]

If ya ever get chance ya should try the Mick extence off road centre that’s a good do 👍🏻

[@tmmy-tl9kx]

Another great video Andy :-) Maybe one day if your up for it you could pop down and join us on Salisbury Plain? Lots of nice lanes and fields to ride through and the tank tracks are awesome fun.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes Salisbury plain is very much on my radar - wanted to get the CRF there this year but failed, hopefully in 2020!

[@tmmy-tl9kx]

@@TheMissendenFlyer It's certainly worth the trip down for, if you need someone to give you tour and show you round next year I'd be happy to help.

[@robchisholm72]

There's also the offical OS Map app which gives you the same quality as a paper map and for a small subscription gives you every OS map in the UK.

[@ScottZ370]

There's one called Monkton Lane just between High Wycombe and Marlow, not the longest route but worth a look if you're looking for new roads

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I'll check it out!

[@odinairsoftuk9809]

Nice green lane

[@vincentcausey8498]

Looks like a great place for your next review of an Africa twin or Tiger, or God forbid a super Tenere! :)

[@Matt43]

Found yourself a proper singletrack!

[@lbride3738]

A great example of riding. As far as the lane leads us, you don't need a powerful bike to enjoy riding.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Very true!

[@stevecade857]

What mere mortal can ring the best out of S1000R etc on our UK roads and byways. So much more fun getting the best out of lesser powered machines.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Agreed 100%

[@Fabio-kr9in]

I'm considering this as a first bike

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Great choice! Love my CRF....

[@AYYOFLOCKA]

Have to say, I got a CRF250L as my first bike and I love it! If you're planning on munching loads of miles on a motorway it isn't going to be the greatest, but for blatting around A Roads, Cities and green lanes it's tonnes of fun! Thanks TMF for all the knowledge I managed to get a wicked deal on a 19 plate with a full FMF system 😎

[@borntohuntvideos]

I use my quad mount everyday, never had a problem with it. Its worth getting the waterproof cover to go with it.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes I have one....

[@congresstaart823]

Another great video, nice to see the crf getting a bit of action 😉 i use my crf off-roading and the best gloves I’ve had so far are the fox dirtpaw gloves- they’ve got the liner for touchscreens and are super comfy! Also whats your average speed and which gear do you use most when you’re offroad? I spend most my time thrashing 2 or an awkward 3rd gear whilst trying to get more confidence 😂

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I'm the same....

[@HakanKoseoglu]

OK, these two lanes are so close to my place, I really need to get the XTZ660 out there before Nov 1st!

[@bobmurphy9380]

Just took my delivery of a 2014 CRF250L yesterday, shaving an inch or two off the seat so I can get on it.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Congratulations!

[@davexs]

FYI. I subscribe to OS Maps directly for £2.99/mth or a lump sum for the year. It cover's the whole of the UK and I can use on my phone or laptop. The advantage is I can search and plan byways on my laptop and save/ping the routes to my phone. Much cheaper than buying individual area's I would suggest!? Great video as usual. Looking forward to your Spain off roading.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

....actually I have already published that one (I didn’t know the order I’d be posting these when I filmed ‘em...)

[@davexs]

@@TheMissendenFlyer I must of missed the notification bell.......Later's Cheers

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

This is the one kzbin.info/www/bejne/moqleYKQosaAgck

[@jaketyler3776]

Should head south, meet up with Spicy110 and go greenlaning together, theres loads down Portsmouth.

[@NomadRidesHD]

Hey TMF i love your video's. please don't take this to poorly, but sometimes i think you have a bit more money then sense. You have a CRF250 that barely goes on harder off-road lanes then my driveway, a Panigale that rarely see's a track and a GS that stay's on tarmac and only does pre-planned/paid touring. I think i am jealous hehe. i always like seeing your vids in my subbox, and tbh i would not mind watching another tarmac GS tour , i think i am hooked on touring vlogs. 😉☮️

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks for that!

[@NomadRidesHD]

@@TheMissendenFlyer please dont take that comment to seriously i meant it in jest ☮️

[@briansteele2723]

Hi there, nice video. I cycle and hike a fair bit so use an app called komoot to find trails. You can get the global map on or offline for about 24 euros so it may be good to use on your spanish missions

[@kayakmalta2444]

Quadlocks are amazing products use the on my motorbikes, mountainbikes and car,

[@ianwilliams2554]

Not a bad little video for beginners.. If you are wanting a good taste of Green Laning action, check out Trail Riding UK, based in North Wales. Excellent day out with all kit supplied, Inc bike. If you have your own Bike they do guided tours too. On a different note, check out maps for the T.E.T..or Trans European Trail. It has virtually every green lane in Europe and the United Kingdom too...

[@MrAustina35]

Excellent video TMF but Oops It's not "off road" It's off tarmac Green lanes are public roads, It is just that they haven't been metalled (tarmaced). As Ian below says "Contact your local TRF" When we get out again they will show you the lanes in your area.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Oops too late!

[@leighchapman935]

You should check the Trans Euro Trail route in the uk .... it’s just short of 3000 kms 👍

[@joeblixem3875]

im in banbury , got myself a ktm rc 125 , great first bike , although ive riden quite a few , first bike ive owned , going to get myself a 125 bullit hero because there are tons of farm lands around me , im just gona ride on them xD

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I don't recommend you do if they're not official Byway Open To All Traffic (BOATS) - you'll just give the rest of us a bad name!

[@christaylor3863]

I used bywaymaps.com , plenty of green lanes on there,and also used ViewRanger app to mark them out,took a long time to do it but worked for me😀👍

[@keiths-teeth]

Green lane association Glass- org uk is a handy group to belong to with updates on drive/ride ability of lanes and open or closed ones.

[@PowerPete999]

Try Viewranger, free app, with free maps, and online route mapping. You can track and run routes. Gpx files can be imported and exported.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Too much tech I CBA'd!!

[@r1mac681]

Haha looks like you had a laugh, I know you have a bit of beef with vans, but you should try and get one stick your crf in the back and get over to the Isle of man, green lanes a plenty on a beautiful island my brother in law has just got back had a wail of a time its fantastic and not frowned upon like in England, just respect the island and the jobs a peach..On a different note mate if you get chance have a look at The ultimate crf250l bar set up, pro taper.. The guy is called Attention Deficit on you tube, I can see you getting some. Keep up the good work ride safe.. Cheers 👍👍🏍️😁

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I'll check it out - cheers...

[@bilbobaggins7137]

Use the definitive maps provided by the locals councils, they will show all the BOATs, better than OS.

[@combatclifton]

The horn 😂🙄 I swap between KTM/husky/Yamaha then jump on one of my Groms always booting people 😂

[@midlifebiker4394]

thats the Risborough end of the Pheonix trail .... if I am not mistaken

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Possibly!

[@dillonrobinson8468]

Just sold my yamaha wr450f. And brought one of these yes a honda 250 l And the riding I do . 75 roads 25 green lanes it's better slower but the crf 250l will go and do every thing the wr 450 f will go may be slower safer boringer lol but it does do it . The services are amazing too on the crf so why not fuck it . .... I love this little bike . It's amazing

[@SteveWKk]

Nice......what do you make of the soft saggy rear suspension on the 250L? Bother you at all?

[@dillonrobinson8468]

@@SteveWKk yes needs an grade pal

[@alic1726]

The white van ‘horror music’....😆😆

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad you liked it Ali! PS Elbow very much on the mend now!

[@terrymason6661]

You to come to Australia to off road mate you would love it...

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I’d love too!

[@willwye410]

You need to move out of the South East! The further you go the better it will be. More green lanes, less traffic (inc white vans!) and cheaper houses with bigger garages. Just check its somewhere with fast enough broadband to upload your vids and a nearby airfield and you’ll never regret moving.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Tell me about it!

[@ownyourworld]

Maybe worth looking into the tet (trans European trail) as the name suggests it goes around the whole of Europe.

[@ChipsCooper]

Those white vans seem to follow you no matter where you go.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Tell me about it! Not just white ones either...

[@garthwaters5756]

Mate White vans on the side of the road in Aust Means ya been done for speeding 9 out of ten times lol

[@Mrfish2015]

Good stuff , do like a bit of crfness, have do some lanes together sometime , maybe with choppsy and Bruce (he loves off-road) 😂..

[@grahamcannon193]

Don't want to be a pooper but a bit of health and safety advice. Try to go on off road rides with another, or if you are on your own tell someone at home the route you intend to take. You don't want to rely on the mobile for contact if something goes wrong as you may have no signal or the phone may get damaged in a fall. Never done off road stuff on a motorcycle myself always kept to tarmac but done plenty of mountain biking and the principal is the same. Keep it upright 👍

[@Hodmeister]

TMF, CRF, WVM and BOATS what's not to like :-)

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

TLAs?

[@gastonrobert2206]

Should hook up with Mister Fish for green landing.

[@Borough51]

Please can you review the 450 and the KTM 690 :)

[@robbieracer3294]

In you opinion Andy, is the Ralley edition that much more worth it?I'd be doing roughly 80% green lanes as you'd call them with the rest on city roads

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Nah, I prefer the standard bike personally...

[@billcotton1551]

I'm not sure ,but I think Mr. Fish is sort of in your region. He has been posting a lot of Green Lane vids lately.

[@garytilley3217]

Those green lanes you could take the Royal Enfield down there in that weather. Lol. Tennis Elbow? You don't play do you?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes it makes it so much easier when you’re not slipping around on mud - great fun when the trails are dry...

[@cbrterzo]

Hi TMF, I do enjoy your videos and find them educational, I have also decided on my next bike from them, That said I need to correct you on this one, apologies, Green lanes are not off road, they are off tarmac, they are public rights of way, public roads, can forgive you for this one lol, The big one though is just because it's on the map does not make it legal, there are seasonal closures & TROs, not all sign posted, some incorrectly sign posted, if your caught illegally on a green lane you can have your bike taken off you and crushed! Yes extreme I know but possible, Have you heard of the TRF or Green Lane Association? Not sure for TRF but the Green Lane Association has a national database of all the green lanes with user evidence, it gets updated with what is legal or not, the database is called Trailwise 2 all web based £48 to join I search out the area I want to go, pick the lanes then I use a software called Memory Maps, I then create a .gpx route on my PC and upload to my phone or iPad pending if I'm on a bike or in a 4x4, I got the whole country in HD with 5 life time licences for £60, better than keep buying tiles, glass-uk.org/ www.trailwise2.co.uk

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks for that lot!

[@androidzqmqaazma6350]

one take home. The UK just isn't cut out for this off road stuff. Shame! You are better off getting on a mountain bike instead. But the novelty is there I guess. Regards High Wycombe massive