Crackin the throttle on anything fuel injected while trying to start usually does more bad than good, they’re mapped to start at closed throttle position
@markhensley93782 жыл бұрын
Great job diagnosing this one. Very impressed with your work and looking forward to seeing more on this project. Have yourself a great week.
@LOOKOUT20122 жыл бұрын
I've said it before and I say it again... For non start - quickest to determine what's not working. Disconnect any kill switch. Pull plug, compression test, while plug out test for spark, if ok drop fuel down plug hole.. For those without a compression tested just pull plug and drop some fuel down.. If she fires then you know there's compression and spark and most likely carb / fuel issue. time spent on many outboard and bikes and this is first thing I as Always do it non starter 👍👍
@backyardbangers10122 жыл бұрын
For future reference to test rings just take off oil filler cap put ya hand or thumb over hole winding bike over and if you feel any air coming out rings are shot
@aarongrabowski37752 жыл бұрын
Legend has it, he is still turning it over checking for spark
@alfredorodriguez45392 жыл бұрын
Yeh that gas pump working her a** off.
@aarongrabowski37752 жыл бұрын
@@alfredorodriguez4539 starter too.
@DirtbikeNb2 жыл бұрын
@@MadMax-mj1rr LMAO
@bikesnjosh2 жыл бұрын
was annoying asf , battery must love him could clearly hear it wasnt going to start yet he held starter for a solid min
@thomaskitlica55722 жыл бұрын
If ya'll can do better start your own channel
@rhiantaylor34462 жыл бұрын
A recent fuel injected bike is always going to be more hassle. I wondered if it might have an immobiliser that would stop injectors firing. Still surprised that it wouldn't fire gas left in the cylinder given it has ~90 psi compression. Good find on the stuck rings, wonder if ring lands have closed up as well.
@davevernon49932 жыл бұрын
Tip, when removing the large slotted fasteners that you tapped with a screwdriver and hammer, either find the largest screwdriver you have, then try and use it as a screwdriver not a chisel, or clamp a suitable coin in some vice/mole grips and remove it without any damage. :) Nice vid btw :)
@rettbull91002 жыл бұрын
4500, bought a new crz 250 for 5k. But glad you made this video. The crf looks alot like my crz. I've only worked on predator motors and my Suzuki cruiser.
@HIS_tube2 жыл бұрын
1 pro with a kicker: you’d be able to tell ASAP. I bought a 03 ktm 250 and I started it with my hand 😂. Good work man. You’re very methodical and it pays off.
@John_Doe_6996 Жыл бұрын
Kickstart is great until you’re 800 kicks in and still won’t start, while you 5 miles into the trail…and foot is bruised all to hell…
@68-72mmALKYstyle2 жыл бұрын
I would of looked into the fuel side of it more but u kno more about those things than I do. Good luck bro
@OHBUCKEYESisBACK2 жыл бұрын
Still watching the video and heard you mention new ignition. On my gsxr i got it non running same story about the ignition. Even though it had the diode is still wasn’t right, I replaced it with an oem ignition and it fired right up. Always love the videos!
@Hanky_Bannist8r2 жыл бұрын
Good job on diagnosis Joe. The new bikes sure are compact, complicated and sort of delicate compared to the older stuff.
@peacefulwarrior40782 жыл бұрын
I wish that Honda would offer the option of watercooled or air cooled engines! Like the older BULLETPROOF XR MODELS that I now wish that I had never sold
@staygold9022 жыл бұрын
they still have the old pig
@1991enduro2 жыл бұрын
I have a xr250r
@RaymondCHowes2 жыл бұрын
I have the 2013 model. Had pretty much the same problem. Being newer and computerized couldn't figure it out. Took it to the local Honda shop for more in depth look over. Should of thought old school. It was the spark plug. Even though I had spark and everything. It was just the spark plug.
@2vintage2 жыл бұрын
Yeah best to start with a new plug. Check the easy stuff first.
@ConnorGMedia2 жыл бұрын
CRF250L is such a great bike! I've been making videos on mine and am loving it. Great video dude!!
@jamesbeckwith7802 жыл бұрын
On the leak down test some leakage past the rings is normal. You should have a leak down gauge. Fuel pumps runs does it pump. Injector pulse test. A noid light tests pulse. Great video.
@Thewatson772 жыл бұрын
Great job Joe. You’ve come quite a ways with your diagnostic skills since the early days 👍🏼👍🏼
@jmcpowersports38392 жыл бұрын
I’m an old school Honda guy, love your Channel. Keep up the good work and have fun-
@markvandesande88552 жыл бұрын
Dirty block carb is my guess 🙄 before watching video? Who would have guessed the piston rings, but i would have thought they would have been ok. But they are 8 years old. Thanks for your great videos.
@1991enduro2 жыл бұрын
Injector no carb on this bike
@brianshaw29142 жыл бұрын
troubleshooting sequence most under rated skill.... well done...patience, and dont assume....
@iceland19822 жыл бұрын
Great videos! Have you ever thought to wash stuff off so the sand and dirt isn't falling into the engine, just a quick pressure wash would go along way
@crboi64402 жыл бұрын
i was thinking the same thing
@chrisatc6272 жыл бұрын
He’s a hobbyist not a mechanic for sure
@kevinalbers10842 жыл бұрын
I agree. Wash the thing first.
@jimw79162 жыл бұрын
ANY dirt or even sand that fell in would be propelled out the exaust within about 2 secs after startup! ...you guys worry too much.
@JAGacp452 жыл бұрын
Great video but I wish you would have try a brand new spark plug before you took it all apart I've seen spark plugs spark like crazy when tested on the side of the engine but in the cylinder under compression they won't
@NormalishGuy2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if you ever synced carbs because you mostly deal with single carbs but that would be an awesome lesson you could help some of us. You explained the valve Clarence pretty well. Thanks and good videos again!
@theyzoomers2 жыл бұрын
Lol it’s easy to sink carbs just match em both perfectly an you can adjust the pto side a little more if you want
@NormalishGuy2 жыл бұрын
@@theyzoomers dude I run a motorcycle shop, not everyone understands syncing carbs and obviously people watch his channel so it would be a “ learning “ video to get more views to help him out as well.. so why lol?
@theyzoomers2 жыл бұрын
@@NormalishGuy I’ve never really seen him have anything with 2 carbs tho
@NormalishGuy2 жыл бұрын
@@theyzoomers I literally said that in my comment…
@theyzoomers2 жыл бұрын
@@NormalishGuy yes but how can he show a video on sinking carbs if he don’t have something with 2 carbs
@dustincanty26222 жыл бұрын
Great video man always enjoy watching your rebuilds keep up the good work happy Easter
@backyardbangers10122 жыл бұрын
Use a coin in the slot on inspection covers and turn the coin with pliers, vice grips or a shifter etc. You wont chew out the plastic or even mark it
@jimw79162 жыл бұрын
who cares about plastic marks? ....whats wrong with you?
@hhstarwars2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the wisdom!
@jimw79162 жыл бұрын
@@hhstarwars You have been bamboozled by Satan.........."wisdom" has NOTHING to do with motorcycles!
@hhstarwars2 жыл бұрын
@@jimw7916 spoken like a true keyboard warrior!
@jimw79162 жыл бұрын
@@hhstarwars spoken like a hypocrite
@mrrecliner76752 жыл бұрын
Wow I’ve never heard of the leak down test before. Smart idea
@culturemotived21902 жыл бұрын
@@titletownclowns1545 it can be done just not at a high psi
@mmaaddict782 жыл бұрын
You need to use a lot bigger flat head screwdriver to pull those covers off so you don't butcher them. Something that has no play when it's slotted in there.
@iceland19822 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was hard to watch
@od16242 жыл бұрын
Right lol 😆
@latestplague37622 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I cringed and had to look away
@Orbacron2 жыл бұрын
I would take this dual sport over many many other bike options👍🏻
@jimw79162 жыл бұрын
thats ok if your legs are 5ft long!...these bikes are way too tall
@albertsammut4332 жыл бұрын
My 2009 carby model 450X was doing exactly the same thing..completely dead..turned out to be sparking but weak..replaced the plug with new one..problem fixed.
@markusmueller90962 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if you do work for other people. That's awesome. If I had a project I'd drive all the hours needed to have you fix my machine.
@wjg76632 жыл бұрын
Always like those bikes really reliable, kind of dumb to put on aftermarket pipe that melts the tail light
@professorright2 жыл бұрын
A coin or large washer with a vice grip will prevent those ugly chisel marks on your crank and view caps.
@raphealnewsome20462 жыл бұрын
You will get her going,you always do.99.% of the time..
@jefferybye21692 жыл бұрын
Happy Easter...Another great video from..always educational and learn something knew every day..
@Owen.o22 жыл бұрын
I’ve literally seen every single one of your videos over and over and over again Their so entertaining!! I could tell anyone any part of the video and when that part happens for every single one of your vids. I rebuilt my rm250 motor just from your videos! Keep up the good work man I love it!
@backcountrybuilds2 жыл бұрын
Same with me. His videos are super helpful and the reason my RM125 engine bottom end rebuild was successful.
@2vintage2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@rickromann2 жыл бұрын
I had a similar bike with the same problem. I had a the incorrect / bad spark plug. Local dealer did not have one ordered one from eBay and she fired right up.
@rickromann2 жыл бұрын
Spoke to soon! Good catch with the rings.
@chrisnsara17 ай бұрын
if you get a crf230l or 230m id love to watch ya work on one.thanks for all the teaching you have tought me,i love watching your videos.i know this is an older video but ehhh whatevas have a good day.
@rotex3802 жыл бұрын
Always liked those bikes... looking forward to part 2 man thanks for sharing 👍
@od16242 жыл бұрын
Fuel injected and still cranks on the throttle
@theamishhitman712 жыл бұрын
how big is your youtube channel again?
@wisecampmotorcycles82582 жыл бұрын
😅😅😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
@culturemotived21902 жыл бұрын
@@theamishhitman71 Lmaoo
@chillycheeze22072 жыл бұрын
Adventure daily would be proud ☺️☺️
@rwb51902 жыл бұрын
on fuel injection bikes at least ktm they have an internal tank fuel regulator. if that goes bad it recirculates the fuel back into the tank. visually you will see fuel coming out of the injector but will not have the right pressure. inline pressure testers are key on fuel injection. had very similar issues and it was just the fuel regulator stuck open. not saying for this bike but always a good test that goes hand in hand with compression and leak down before ripping into the bike too much. might help someone on here at some point
@wisecampmotorcycles82582 жыл бұрын
Why are you pumping the throttle when trying to start a fuel injected motorcycle!
@kalelcoulter41442 жыл бұрын
Doesn't make since
@culturemotived21902 жыл бұрын
@@kalelcoulter4144 sense
@crisneufeld22 жыл бұрын
are u sure it's getting fuel ? I would try some starting fluid or something
@darrenhughes36862 жыл бұрын
Nice job mate I would’ve given up
@ahsokatano60592 жыл бұрын
good that you found the issue, sucks thats it the rings
@gtisid2 жыл бұрын
The pointless stuff they put on modern bikes is mind blowing, im still thinking electrical but hey what do i know.
@murrayminimotors16742 жыл бұрын
You are Master Diagnostics the small motors glad to be a fan and a subscriber!!
@fithy67672 жыл бұрын
Bob the builder can we fix it? Bob the builder yes we can!
@James795612 жыл бұрын
It stinks in there . Good Job !
@craigmorgan46762 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to this one,ace choice!🤔👍👍👍💪
@johnperry51022 жыл бұрын
you make an excellent instructor, great video
@thomasdausch85572 жыл бұрын
excellent video,, tks for sharing your troubleshooting skills,looking forward to seeing bike running again,
@staygold9022 жыл бұрын
nice catch man. come a long way in a couple years
@peteraitken64942 жыл бұрын
Great work joe top man on diagnosis look forward to see it running take care mate 🔧🔧🔧👌👍
@bradb9146 Жыл бұрын
I see a slip on aftermarket pipe , but no electronic jet kit . That's most likely the cause of the fried rings to begin with . She definitely got a little too warm . Also , that wasn't an aftermarket air filter , and it was missing the intake boot . You have to re-jet for a pipe , and get a better air filter or risk toasting your rings .
@Grohss2 жыл бұрын
I have watched enough vids to where I knew he was gonna say @6:20 "yup its ahhh sparking pretty good" hahahahaha
@the_ltz_guymaster79122 жыл бұрын
Honda did say they want to start adding anti theft measures in place like cars were u can’t use a offbrand ignition you would need to provide ownership for a new ignition or key because of that major dirtbike theft that happened recently at a dealership in mo theifs stole whole new shipment of Honda dirtbikes that haven’t even been in the store a full 2 days
@1991enduro2 жыл бұрын
Yes immobilisation issue
@mikeleblanc29332 жыл бұрын
Was water swamped....... Ate the rings.happen to mine the same thing
@marcemayer62352 жыл бұрын
Dude explain to your audience the twisting of the throttle while trying to start any of your project's
@marcemayer62352 жыл бұрын
Dirt bike carbs do not have accurateor pumps let joe answer the question
@MM_in_Havasu2 жыл бұрын
That thing sounded the same with the sparkplug in as it did when you motored it with it out. I know the CRF450's use a decompression device and cranking pressure is about 65-80 psi.
@exlonghauler2 жыл бұрын
Very puzzling !! I learned something today !! Thanks , I enjoyed the video !!
@larrywarner93142 жыл бұрын
First of all that's not a good and reliable test unless you have a leak down tester , the other thing you need to make sure both valves are closed !
@crfgangs24462 жыл бұрын
Finally you should get more these builds 👍
@jaredclark262 жыл бұрын
Check the fuel could be bad if it’s fuel injection injectors could be messed up or dirty
@John_Doe_6996 Жыл бұрын
Soon I’ll be going thru a lot of this same stuff myself…got a 2016 husky fc250 that died while idling after about 2 minutes from cold start, hasn’t fired up since…hoping it’s a spark plug or something simple, I’ve got less than 2 hours of ride time into the bike and it’s cost me well over 5k… motor seemed to start easy and run strong right up until it randomly stalled the other day..
@markflint82022 жыл бұрын
Another decent video great content hello from hartlepool uk
@11GalleryATV2 жыл бұрын
Thanks sir, I learned a little from this one. Keep 'em coming!
@TheDean782 жыл бұрын
Buy a bigger screw driver for those timing covers.
@bighomieJ5X2 жыл бұрын
Xlnt video, keep up the fire content 💯
@markwhitfield54122 жыл бұрын
curious rings stuck but compression was spot on .
@backcountrybuilds2 жыл бұрын
Awesome job. Isn’t that illegal for a Honda?
@bigmurph14472 жыл бұрын
I bet that guy will keep his air filter clean now.
@lou_b__41352 жыл бұрын
Can we get more dirt bike videos 🔥🔥
@g.p.8802 жыл бұрын
What would cause the rings to stay/stuck compress into the piston like that? Is it from sitting or just worn out rings? Thanks
@2vintage2 жыл бұрын
I believe from sitting
@stevefritch31802 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe. I really enjoyed learning about the leak down test. I've never heard of it but, seems to make perfect sense. I do have a question about the compression tests. I don't understand why the throttle being open or closed would make a difference. Wouldn't that just affect the carburator? How would that affect the compression reading? Thank you for another kick ass video!!
@maxtheroofer80042 жыл бұрын
It only really effects 2 strokes with standard style valves
@devinlawson40932 жыл бұрын
This bike is fuel injected but either way, You need to let enough air in with the throttle open to make full compression. If it's closed then you'relimiting the air. .
@stevefritch31802 жыл бұрын
Devin Lawson. Thank you. That seems to make some sense to me.
@lklk19972 жыл бұрын
You didn't learn too much from this leak down test because he did it all wrong.
@stevefritch31802 жыл бұрын
LK LK What do you think he did incorrectly? What should he have done instead?
@dan-o97462 жыл бұрын
What about freeing up the rings, cleaning out the grooves and try cranking it again?
@SUPERGOOSE-LLC11 ай бұрын
My DR350 sounds exactly like this and everything checks out OK like this bike. I wish he would tell us if he got it working and what the real problem was. I'm not sure he found the real issue.
@19artem872 ай бұрын
Fantastic video. Thank you!
@maico49022 жыл бұрын
Hi I watch all your videos and always leave a like and iv been going over some of your old videos and some time ago you didn't know what to do with an old 1990s xr250r you split the engine . iv a xl250r 1985 uk road legal but for the life of me a cannot get it started iv put new piston rebore new values lapped in new valve stem oil seals new clutch plates a complete strip down and powder coated new rear suspension linkage bushes were needed new wheel bearings front and rear new enduro tyres can you help
@RiderJon-offical2 жыл бұрын
Hey I have a question. I just replaced a water pump seal on my 1993 Suzuki Rmx 250 and when I started the bike cool began to leak from the gasket by the water pump, any idea why it is leaking. And no it’s not from the weep hole.
@kittenfat22072 жыл бұрын
Awesome work. Do you charge for this type of work? Or is it free as it’s content
@wisecampmotorcycles82582 жыл бұрын
It's free if you bring your bike to him.
@MrGuvEuroman2 жыл бұрын
I nearly bought one, but there was so many for sale with super low mileage, I found out that they a so weak people returned or sold them after weeks buying.
@MrMatto842 жыл бұрын
With my kx250f I just gave the cylinder a scrub in soapy water with one them green dishwashing pads
@planemaintenance39482 жыл бұрын
When you first pulled out the spark plug you mentioned that it wasn’t wet. Why didn’t you continue down that road when you found that it sparked but wasn’t wet?
@jeroendenhertog49752 жыл бұрын
That's how those engine inspection covers get damaged. I seriously hate that.
@BTR20182 жыл бұрын
Easy fix;) let’s go 🤘👍🤙
@trackpackgt8772 жыл бұрын
You probably already figured this out but those bikes don't have a auto compression release because they're low compression bikes like 8 or 9-1 compression so they don't need a compression release 87 lb is low compression should be well over a 100. getting ready to watch the next video you probably already figured that out though lol
@danzilla32232 жыл бұрын
Very interesting I'm about to buy a 2022 450 and this shows up.
@markwhitfield54122 жыл бұрын
you already confirmed the compression was good...so valves will be good as will leak down test...i wonder why u went that route. looks like timing of the spark, will it have crank/cam sensor, or some whitchcraft going on in the cdi?
@leviprice4342 Жыл бұрын
They make a tool to take off the inspection covers , so you don’t have to beat them with a screwdriver
@manneandersson22032 жыл бұрын
Cool video!
@richardjados32582 жыл бұрын
Leakdown tests are supposed to be done 5-7 psi 25 could blow seals out way to much
@kernelbadness2 жыл бұрын
You're referring to a leak test for a 2 stroke. A leak down test is done on a 4 stroke. Different tests but essentially accomplishes the same... testing for leaks.
@Jpsmoto Жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 14 crf250l also, it currently is idling super low, around 700 ish rpm, but it is supposed to be idle at 1450, do you have any suggestions on what to do? I already shimmed the valves and it didn’t change much.
@troyrosenbaugh99352 жыл бұрын
Check for intermittent and weak spark from bad connections.
@AlexCave2 жыл бұрын
how many miles did this bike have? these things are basically bulletproof haha
@mikeleblanc29332 жыл бұрын
Nickle sleeves those.
@DirtDragger362 жыл бұрын
So sad he didnt put his music in the beginning of the video
@Avalanche22 жыл бұрын
Hard to believe it has perfect compression and bad rings. Any followup to this?
@TheGamer-ei5xk2 жыл бұрын
So these bikes are not his he working on them for people?????