HONDA MONKEY FIRST HAND Review vs Honda GROM and Comparison

[@1972mercurycougar]

Dude, for us old darts, that grew up on Z50's, and Trail 70s, well this thing is just fun and cool!!

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

Heck yea. The Grom And MONKEY are a BLAST.

[@ZippoVarga]

Being 52, I totally remember the original 50cc Monkey bike and loved them then. I've already placed my order for the new Monkey in the same Red with no ABS. Excited to add it to the other 6 Honda's in the stable. Cheers Mate! Zip~

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

Very cool. You will definitely, enjoy it.

[@Whateva67]

I’m 52 as well,just bought a 74 Honda ct70 a couple months ago and now I want the new monkey bike,just have to wait until they’re sold in Canada,hopefully it’s soon. Greetings from British Columbia

[@gardini100]

got mine too:)..71 :)

[@Agwings1960]

Before Honda reintroduced the Monkey bike concept, I never heard of the Grom. But I definitely knew about the Honda Trail 50/70 series of mini bikes back in the 60's and 70's. Had one of each back in the day, and they were rock solid reliable and completely kid proof.

[@quinnjim]

I just wonder why this is $1,000 more than the Grom. I think they justify it because of all the nostalgia this creates with guys who wanted a little Honda mini-bike back in the day. $4,000 is just such a steep price to pay. I can get a LOT of real motorcycles for that price.

[@baldilocks1914]

quinnjim owning one I think 4K is a bargain.

[@MrWhitelightning73]

quinnjim I was thinking the same. I have a grom and really like the LOOKS of the monkey. Since $1,000 should make a difference 🤔

[@whendoigettosayfuck]

Not really. I get about 100 MPG. So it costs less than other bikes right there. And it;s 500-700 more not 1k.

[@patlager2110]

If you need a "real" motorcycle then move along.

[@quinnjim]

@@patlager2110 I compared it directly to the Grom.

[@vidge123]

i had never seen one of these until yesterday...so i looked on youtube. i was VERY impressed by its look and the whole concept. VERY NICE bike!!!

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

Definitely, a great bike

[@CaptT60]

Thanks for the comparison. Has been a blast riding the Monkey the last couple of days. Hope you are getting some ride time.

[@tonygeddes9558]

Hi from the U.K. I’m 47 and live in a coastal town in the south. Just bought one of these in red. Originally was going for a Grom but when I saw this I just had to have it. Love the looks! Can’t wait to pick it up next weekend. I don’t want or need anything bigger or faster, this will be something I can just cruise around town on with a big grin on my face!

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

you are exactly right.

[@heihachimishima8578]

Do a video installing a forged crank and rod! The videos are great and you guys do an awesome job. We really need a video on the install of the forged crank and I’m sure you would sell a ton more as well! The community would love it!

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

Future projects.

[@cavesuki8510]

Heihachi Mishima What’s better about a forged crank & rod?

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

Forged Crank and Rod are stronger, and last longer.

[@onecrazywheel]

I really like this motorcycle. I own a 1973 Suzuki RV-125 Enduro in Suzuki Green. I haven't had it running in years. Seeing this bike wants me to get it running again. My wife would like me to sell it someday but I want to hold on to it. It was my grandpa's bike in Chicago. I live in Central Florida. Great video. This would be a very fun bike. Jeff

[@petewebb6952]

Good level headed review thanks. Made me want to check out other reviews by you guys. Cheers, Pete (UK).

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

Thanks Pete Sudhana. We greatly appreciate the feedback.

[@patrickhughes5918]

Enjoyed it. Very Informative. Well produced

[@brucegroom1929]

Beautiful. Looks way cooler than a Grom. In fact very very similar to the Z50J I had as a 12 year old in 1976 when living in Dubai.

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

Definitely, looks great in person.

[@Cognitiveleaper]

This guy is good at what he does.

[@Edward-Norton]

Do you think that they will bring the Honda hunter cub to the U.S.?

[@andytillsley9576]

I have a 2020 monkey . I live in the UK . I have done the exhaust and want to do the chimera air intake . Do you do a flashes ECU ?

[@MrWhitelightning73]

Excellent review.....hopefully they make an aftermarket luggage rack. I’m one of those milk crate nerds 😅🤣😂

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

Thank you very much for the post.

[@ខ្មែរអង្គរ-ន6ប]

which one is easier for long trip bro.

[@booomer762]

Great review!

[@lr22536]

What can you replace that airbox with? Also, can you go bigger on the tires in diameter if you chose to?

[@MiguelAngel-tc6ht]

The mirrors are part of that vintage look. I think they look cool, but I'm curious; what would you replace them with?

[@mxseba7232]

hello is the reliability of the monkey good? thank you

[@SoDefFilms]

can we talk about the white balence?

[@samiam8779]

So Def Films and the sound too. 😉

[@frankdiscussion9988]

Get a life. It's a KZbin video, not "Gone With The Wind".

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

LOL, Thanks Frank. I think he loses focus on that. ;-)

[@SoDefFilms]

HardRacing just trying to help guys

[@SoDefFilms]

Frank Discussion and the colors are from gone with the wind ;-)

[@KipBurbank1]

One of my favorites in my little group of bikes. Quality is outstanding.

[@saleshardracing1561]

definitely

[@brianmccann666]

Yellow has Extra Storage under the seat. Red has the ABS in the storage space location.

[@phantommonkey26]

There is a water bottle canteen size sroage under the seat. Great place to keep some extra gasoline for the bike.

[@carlosdesgroux2627]

I would like to buy one Monkey, but I need it for two persons, how can I instale back petals , is it posible , where can I get them? Thanks for the information

[@LRSS2455]

You can always get the Suzuki Van Van 200. It has the same style, but it’s a bigger bike.

[@jroar123]

You confused me about the slip-on. Did you mean to say that removing the cat for the slip-on would lighten the bike and give you more horsepower?

[@Nrijder]

Love the HR sticker placement haha.

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

The Air box just screams for our HR Stickers.

[@mark.us84]

Fits the 235ccm Finbro enginekit flawless in there?

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

Not sure. Not had anyone try.

[@lawrenceong8501]

Lovely bike! Great review!

[@sdanville]

ive watched 3 videos and all i wanted to know is how many speeds and is it a clutch or no.

[@jakecroft7408]

clutch, 4

[@rogercrier]

Where does it get the speed info from? I assumed it uses the abs signal, but some have no abs!

[@brianmccann666]

Red has from abs brakes. Yellow does has disc breaks. Blue. Not sure...

[@kenh5317]

I’m missing my Z50

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

No kidding. That's a great bike.

[@Silveradoman61]

That airbox and exhaust has to go those 2 things are the first I would get rid of. You can tell by looking at those it is power robbing that engine big time.

[@richardguay3474]

Does the speedo convert from mph to kmh ? thanks

[@brianmccann666]

Yes. Switches by push button.

[@tomhertz1614]

All those new mods make it a $6500 mini bike

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

it won’t be that much

[@thegreatwhitenorth8754]

We dont have these in canada yet. 9 or so more months till we get them.. But the 4000 price and the exchange rate makes this bike 5300 for us up here.. Another 200 if we want abs...Plus tax. Pdi. And what ever else they charge Plus a helmet.. When i order one, i expect to pay around 6000 to 6500 out the door But driving around like i was a kid again reliving all those old memories..making new ones with the kids. and this time i can take it where ever i want.. Its gonna be worth every penny of that 6000..

[@Whateva67]

thegreatwhitenorth I don’t think it’ll be that much, the grom is 3500 cad. and it’s over 3000$ US so if this is 4000$ US it’s going to be 4600 cad.

[@thegreatwhitenorth8754]

@@Whateva67 i just called honda powersports here in vancouver and another dealer in a city we call langley.. and i asked the sales guys if they know how much the new monkey is gonna be. And they both said honda hasnt released any offical price yet.. But they both said that they figure its gonna be between 5 and 6 thousand.. So we shall see what the price is when honda decides closer to when we get them.. (We dont get them till december) Hopefully they're 4k and not 6k. But i doubt it.. Everythings always more expensive here lol

[@Whateva67]

thegreatwhitenorth I know about the older z50s costing that much but it’s like the classic car biz, a brand new camaro in 69 cost around 4 grand but they run up to 100 grand now because they were restored or kept in mint shape,old z50 restoration cost a few grand to do it right so they cost that when they sell em.I’m wishful thinking here on the price of the new monkeys because I want one too so hopefully they will sell them in Canada soon. I live in Nanaimo btw so I hear ya about everything costing more in this country

[@nickdamas2164]

I'll keep it short.....Great review!!

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

Thanks Nick. Appreciate the support.

[@chrisken8902]

great vid. Can you custom - put BIGGER WHEELS on it ??

[@saleshardracing1561]

we've got customers who have done that. Yes.4

[@tomservo3401]

I keep seeing comments people complaining this bike costs $1k more than a grom? I just purchased a brand new 2019 Monkey for $3300? Idk if the dealers are desperate for sales with corona virus? Maybe they just wanted to get rid of it?

[@ok-70707]

You got a crazy good deal dude

[@AridersLifeYT]

now do a cbr300r swap. lol

[@imagineaworld]

Do the kitaco clutch covers fit this bike?

[@chuckbowen4334]

Don't get a yoshi exhaust!!! Get a Akropovic. they sound better and actually give you more power. It lets you use the original chrome from honda.

[@chuckbowen4334]

You were "bummed" about the adjusters....I was not...the old school adjusters for dirt bikes worked and worked well. Everything about the monkey seems to be a step above the Grom. Probably why they are charging more for the monkey....pleated and piped seats. Chrome everywhere...I love the bike. I bought one of the first ones in the US. It seems a little faster than their grom....I not sure, maybe it's the higher profile tires? By the way, the amount of horsepower you get from deleting the cat is almost nothing...maybe .2 horsepower. Not worth it!!!!! Mine max out at 65 mph. Comfortable at 50.

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

Chuck Bowen, Actually the Yoshimura Full System makes a ton more HP and a ton more Torque above 4000 RPM over the Slip-on. We have the Dyno Graphs to support that. It's pretty impressive how much getting rid of that Cat and increasing the Header Diameter improves the performance.

[@killbill2208]

If you max out at 65 then it’s definitely not faster than a grom

[@killbill2208]

But it’s basically the same we’re talking single cylinder bikes they are all almost the same.

[@frankdiscussion9988]

Faster is not solely equivalent to top speed. It can be faster in every single gear, but just top-out sooner.

[@chuckbowen4334]

@@killbill2208 the tire for the monkey has a larger outside diameter.....its faster than the grom. It looks better too. Look at the aspect ratio of the tires Grom vs. the Monkey. If the engines are the same, the monkey WILL be faster. The only way a Grom would be faster is if you throw it out of an aircraft at ten thousand feet. Upon impact....about 200 miles an hour.

[@Weaponsandarmor]

Paint and chrome is kinda reminiscent of like a Royal Enfield

[@michaelsutton8783]

Should I get a Monkey or the Grom? I live in Manhattan New York so it’s just for taking local around the city.

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

Both will be great bikes for you to get around the city. You can't go wrong with either one.

[@michaelsutton8783]

Thanks! Great review!

[@M1staG4MER]

Get a grom if you want to be wheeling around your city

[@theisspossekel4139]

Some Honda monkeys have a little bit of storage under the seat. Its just complicated to lift the seat

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

Correct. We made some knurled end bolts that can be HAND Turned to access the under seat storage without tools.

[@67cuda38]

Honda monkey ve the Yamaha tw 200. About the same price.

[@jaimeguzman4193]

Nice bike, I loved it. You guys are looking for storage room in a 125cc retro toy? It's a toy.

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

LOL.. well you know.

[@michaeljkasnter]

Cuzuco Guzman its to be used to go the the bathroom at a camp site

[@Thedeaconoftrade]

you should take it out for a rip in your review so we can see it in action

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

LOL.. Do some TOP SPEED Testing. ;-)

[@sammariti3686]

Why do you think only "guys" like and own these??? There's lots of us women that love our monkeys, too. Don't be a dinosaur!

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

LOL, there's no gender bias in our comments. Over 60% of our videos are done by females at our shop.

[@GiorgosC-rp5ms]

i still like the trail better has everything and more then these

[@curtphillipps975]

I’ll keep the cat,less exhaust fumes.

[@EstebanAGaido]

Unbelievable.... haves the mandatory side reflectors in the bars for safety... but no ABS like all models in Europe.

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

Correct.

[@ven0m0usviper]

Looks like it's cross-countryable :)

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

Exactly

[@tomhertz1614]

HardRacing Jim carrey bought for for DUMB AND DUMBER 3

[@arlenewolf5260]

Honda definitely missed the mark. It still needs the old kick start and the fold down handle bars!!!!

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

LOL... Yea, that would go over well. ;-)

[@imagineaworld]

Idk about the bars but yes it needs a kickstart badly.

[@asbjrnl.srensen3781]

@@imagineaworld I have kickstart on my Yamaha sr400...I would not miss it:-)

[@percyc123]

Oh , those good old days !

[@ratscoot]

@@asbjrnl.srensen3781 i know what you mean, had a Honda CR500 myself.

[@niklasnotgreta]

Great presentation. But the bikes build by HSM (Hot Shot Monkeys, "Toro Rosso" etc.) or "Tech Team's Garage" are more "cool" 🤓 than all this mass production stuff!

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

Customer built generally is in a different league to OEM.

[@mr1bienvenu1]

Too much money ! Going to have to wait for a used one.

[@jco5254]

Sucks to be a cheap ass

[@mr1bienvenu1]

@@jco5254 shut up stupid.

[@jsboening]

We here in the states got screwed with those ugly turn signals and taillight.

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

Yep. same tail as the Grom

[@steveleach4973]

It's retro

[@michaeljkasnter]

How much out the door? 5k ? Doesn’t make sense

[@frankdiscussion9988]

It doesn't have to make sense... to you. Honda is much smarter than you. They got this.

[@carolcheny]

yeah it's way too expensive for a little toy. :( SSR Razkull?

[@k5kensails]

Nah, Once you ride it you will be glad you bought it. I have the original and this is way better for all day rides. Exhaust and Air Box removal are the mod's I'm looking forward to.

[@sukbotfeldt7037]

Nice bike 😜👍

[@curtphillipps975]

Great review,-6 minutes less if you would stop saying the same points multiple times.

[@michaeljkasnter]

Then you talk about adding another 2-3k, For 8k you can buy a Real bike that goes faster than 60mph

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

Of course, there's always another bike a step above. That's the beauty of it, everyone can find the bike that's right for them, and that they enjoy. At the end of that the day that's all that matters.

[@mravenna5525]

Can't ride 2 up, can you?

[@ripmax333]

Poopy T Ravenna nope

[@kenknoepfel168]

He needs to listen to himself. I think you said the word Grom probably 200 times during this video.

[@richardwooten7657]

MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE 6 FOOT TALL NOW DAYS , WHY DONT THE COMPANY MAKE 2 OR 3 SIZES OF THESE GREAT BIKES !? DUH. ITS BROTHER ,THE "CUB" HAS SOLD OVER 100 MILLION BIKES ! SO THE DEMAND HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE -- 2 OR 3 SIZE MODELS ARE A NO BRAINER !!!!!!!!! IS ANY BODY OUT THERE !

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

LOL... agreed. But, you got to post this on HONDA's website. They make these bikes. ;-)

[@baldilocks1914]

You can’t ride in the rain, pfttt

[@joebug55]

Honda really messed up the brake light and turn signals on the US model... fugly looking compared to the European model... same thing with the Super Cub...

[@HardRacingPerformanc]

I don't think it was by Choice. Normally that's a U.S. DOT law that requires them to change those.

[@joebug55]

@@HardRacingPerformanc True, ...they could have put a little more thought into them though.... for the 4k you're paying, could have been better looking.

[@ivyivyivy316]

Made to go long distance lol

[@bengutierrez6904]

JUAAAAN

[@obijuankenobi6565]

Yes ?

[@petebusch9069]

Saw one in person, that red was horrible, deal killer right there.

[@charlescheatham179]

Pete Busch opinions vary

[@NoahJJ24]

The blue is quite nice