Honda NC750X updated for 2021with more power & better electronics.

[@Mtthwpez]

I own a 2019 NC750X and love it to bits. The bike is fun for me, so not sure why people moan about it not being fun. Says more about your own issues if you can't have fun on this bike....

[@zxer46northrider95]

I own a 2017x manual and it is very fun to be alone , but in group even 300cc ninja , will let you now you are too slow and Heavy. and in adventure groups any vstrom 650 will remain you the Nc 750x it is not an adventure bike. in my personal opinion , the Nc750x can do parts of all the segments, but it is not good in any of those... other Xtreme bad issue , you pay 10k for it, them you will sell it by 5500 US $ in just 6 months.. good quality but very bad buy.

[@johnroe3915]

I have a xsr700 it's a very fun bike wheelies all day. I want the NC cause I hate commuting on my "fun bike". I wants solid commuter and great MPG. I just wish the NC had cruise control.

[@Mtthwpez]

@@johnroe3915 You will probably find that you have more fun on the NC750X than you realize. It isn't just the boring commuter bike that the idiots keep labeling it as. Cruise control would be a nice addition. Not sure why it wasn't added to the new model.

[@FlIckme23]

It's the perception of the bike rather than actual. I just changed my street triple for one and I got a lot of grief. I don't care though 😊

[@FlIckme23]

@@zxer46northrider95 I would say it's also down to the rider. I ride with people on z1000/tiger 1050/Street triple and have no issues staying in the group. Maybe it's how others ride

[@CosmikDebriis]

They are what I'd call a complete package in which all the component parts are very well matched. By way of explanation, I mean the brakes aren't sports bike brakes but are perfectly adequate for what it is. Likewise the suspension and the power/power delivery. No need for more electrickery, what it has is adequate. I really don't need a colour TFT dash and programmable rider modes. I just want to get on and ride the damned thing and this bike is incredibly easy to ride. Put together it makes for an almost perfect balance of practicality and usability. I suppose to some, that might be boring but I've owned all sorts of bikes and this, in reality is the best bike I've ever owned. Also, don't be put off by those apparently dismal BHP figures. It produces plenty of power right where it's most useful so no need to drop two or three gears to overtake, just open the throttle and she will pull like a train. Not only that but it will sit quite happily at 100mph (Uk owner) all day. Only thing is though, at high speeds, the screen isn't really up to the job. On paper, it's quite heavy but, and it's a big one, it carries its weight low down unlike "proper" adventure bikes which I find top heavy. Indeed it's surprisingly agile whilst retaining good stability. Then of course there's that almost legendary economy. It beggars belief and a complete mystery to me how they do it. 750cc engine with 250cc economy. Amazing. I can only think of two gripes with the X. The first I've already mentioned is the screen. Bigger, wider and adjustable would be nice. The second, weirdly perhaps, is the positioning of the foot pegs which I found were right in the way when stopped and feet straight down. (I actually own the S version and it's not a problem). Final word. I've never really liked Honda's, probably my last choice as a manufacturer if I'm honest. I bought my NC 750 S as a winter hack because it was cheap. But, within a couple of weeks of riding, The Triumph Street Twin is languishing in the garage and I've since sold The MV Agusta.

[@skidchowder2433]

My 2016 DCT is serving me so well I have not found anything I would replace it with. In 35000 miles oil changes...tires,,,chain and sprockets...and it still gives me a solid 60mpg. Honda knocked it out of the park with this design.

[@BassOutcast]

35,000 miles? That's nothing. I'm at a trouble free 71K miles myself on my 2012 700X. There are people like Mike from Thailand with about 150K miles and it still runs like new. Heck, there's a guy in Brazil who works as a courier on his - 270K miles and it still runs as a daily workhorse. These are bulletproof machines.

[@amycollins6007]

One thing I'm confused about is low speed. I can creep along super slowly with lots of clutch and not touching the back brake... How do you ride so slowly with DCT?

[@PovilasPanavas]

@@amycollins6007 sad no one answered. I heard that you can use rare-break to engage a clutch a bit. I did 30 days travel in Europe and U-turns are hard without clutch. Using rare break seems to indeed engage a clutch a bit, but I don't have training for that unlike clutch, so U-turns, or turning sideways to cross cars while filtering was a problem for me. I just couldn't figure out how to do it without a clutch properly. Anyway, managed to complete my trip, and still would choose DCT. It's just so relaxing to ride. I always downshift before overtaking. The only annoying thing is that sometimes it upshifts just before I open throttle after I already downshifted which messes up my overtaking, because with this bike you must downshift one or preferably two gears in order to overtake (people who say just open throttle are liars or keep bike in a very aggressive mode. I keep it in Sport1 or Sport2 (Sport3 is too aggressive and keeps revs to high, this is not for normal travel, but for pushing/racing). And yes, if you fully open the throttle it downshift one gear for you often, but you not always sure if it will do, so manual downshift is a must).

[@vohannes]

The NC is a wonderful bike. I bought mine new in 2014 and it now has 85000km on the clock. With a few extras it has become a superb touring bike that I took all over the country, Lesotho, Swaziland and even Zambia. It still rides like a new bike. I wanted to upgrade to a bigger bike a few times, but could never justify the cost for the little I would have gained.

[@MOOONSTERno]

Bought one in 2013, after watching the bike show review, perfect learner/begynner Bike, practical, easy ride, you can have a lot of fun at low speed, corners well, can follow liter bikes in the corners, useless on the straight. You will be surprised how often you use the storage compartment. Other than i installed alarm and stuff , they drained the battery, it went like clockworks. Have been in couple of situations that i was glad i only had 48HP to learn riding with. Now I ride H2sx, that's another story :)

[@sweetcostarica]

From practicality and usability (NC750X $9,000 USD) to not even close

[@stanstevens6289]

I have a 20021 manual NC750X, I recently tried an Africa Twin Adventure Sports with DCT. When I eventualy come to change my bike it will be be another NC750x WITH DCT, it's awesome.

[@SumPixelz]

Just rented this beautiful NC for a day and I am absolutely sold. Whoever said that this is a boring bike has probably never ridden one. I was a little worried it wouldn’t have enough power, but put in in sport mode and it’ll blast fast enough. The DCT is absolutely amazing and smooth, and I’m gonna trade in my Vulcan S for an NC…. That is…. If my wife says it’s okay… of course….

[@dreamdeeplyrelaxingexpansi9103]

Just acquired my DCT and it has blown me away in every possible situation so far . I am nearly 70 and so I sold my 2015 BMW 1200GS for this and have taken time to really get to know this bike at ultra slow speeds for maximum learning muscle memory and getting upgrades for off road touring which is what I’ve enjoyed for years …the auto box is fantastic ! I really understand why electric bikes like the Zero …my next bike…improve off road skills 30% watching reviews….I have been riding soft sandy little off-road sections standing and sitting and the bike is just so easy at especially really slow speeds ….nothing seems not doable …upgrades : seat gel pad ….a must …protect my privates 😂(or shad comfy seat but expensive some day possibly ) …bar risers yes …higher screen… bark busters ….bash plate….covers the entire engine ….crash bars …. Foot pegs ….and at some point will add soft panniers and a hard top box ….(not too sure yet which I want) all in I think it’s possibly the best bike I’ve owned in life time of bikes ….for many reasons My last petrol bike but this will now only be a must in some years to come while the entire market shifts over ….

[@mhmyuhh]

i don’t need a seat gel pad, are you endowed?😳

[@rzu7120]

Honda, please put cruise control on this bike.

[@volt8684]

And a better quality swing arm. Look inside it its trashy

[@davidcapstick3689]

Don't forget there are people out there like myself can only ride and drive auto's because of disability's i wish more bikes had it

[@rzu7120]

For those wondering, 36km/L=84.6mpg (U.S. gallons)

[@davidjones535]

Yea all ready looked that up but thanks anyway ,

[@AuRowe]

@@davidjones535 I didn't bc I'm stupid so thanks for R Zu from me too

[@TheDervMan]

I bought a brand new NC750X in 2018 but the DCT started playing up after 1 year/8,000 miles. I wasn't going to mention it but you're last comment about Honda being bullet proof simply isn't true. I fully accept anything mechanical can and will wear out, no matter who makes it, what disappointed me was how long it took Honda to fix it. They even part stripped the gearbox, which didn't help. It was only the hunch of the mechanic who realised it was the gearbox shifter motor. Once that was replaced it worked fine until I sold it. However, it's put me off DCT/Honda, which is a shame as it was a really, really good bike. Incidentally I've only ever owned one Honda car, a 2006 Civic and that had a number of problems too. I'm obviously not destined to own Honda's ;-) This does demonstrate the 'value' of PCP/Finance, as you never own the bike so should it go wrong you hand it back.

[@TheDervMan]

@@sonics747 I wonder if the VFR has a better made shift motor?

[@mhmyuhh]

i think you just have bad luck lol

[@chucksu]

Words from the states, I find it crazy how different the price ranges run in different markets. Here you guys state the NC750X runs cheaper than the Z650 & MT07. Over here, the MSRP of the both those bikes, are cheaper than the Honda. The NX750X here, runs at a premium price, much like any Honda bikes.

[@grodt88]

same here in central europe. MT07 and Z650 are around 20% cheaper that NT750X DCT

[@MrHugawa]

wow, the fuel consumption figures are wild. I dont like how the front cubbyhole pivots backward, it should pivot forward to make it easier to access while on the bike but I can see how it would open wider the way it is.

[@PovilasPanavas]

I think the issue is that it depends a lot on how much you fill and how. You can add more fuel and level will be still the same, as air or something goes out. Like you know it, you fill fully, and level of petrol goes down. You can add more and more. It takes time for fuel to actually start going over. What I'm saying, that 57 km per litter is a measurement mistake. No way you can actually achieve that. He's saying, that he needs less than 2 litters per 100km which is simply not true no matter how economical one rides. 3 litters though is possible. I had 3.5 average while fully loaded on 30 day trip in Europe (6000km). Thus 3 litters not loaded (less weight, less wind resistance) should be possible.

[@bigred8438]

That issue with having the petrol cap under the passenger seat has still not been rectified. If you are going away camping on it, you would have to ensure that you didn't strap anything down on the pillion seat which prevented an easy refill. But l can't see that happening, unless you take a pillion. BMW got this right by have the filler cap at the side.

[@hermanstokbrood]

I really don't understand why Honda doesn't put a belt on it. It's so more practical.

[@Supernova12034]

power loss, its feasible on bigger bikes that already make a ton of power, but on a little 58 hp thing, the difference would be noticeable and significant.

[@hermanstokbrood]

@@Supernova12034 not really. It isn't a shaft drive.

[@rockyp3917]

Cost

[@kindajal]

power loss..this bike has instant torque till 7k rpm..slapping a belt will sap alot of torque at all rpms

[@hermanstokbrood]

@@kindajal I rather loose some horsepower than having maintenance.

[@UncleWally3]

Is there a name for this phenomenon? I’ll consistently and happily use 20% of powerful (160+hp) bikes, but give me something with 70 - 90 hp and I’m constantly twisting the throttle, breaking the speed limit and, generally speaking, being a nuisance to myself and others. Must be a support group out there somewhere . . .

[@IgnitionBikeShow]

We are your support group. Couldn't agree more, a truly satisfying ride must involve you pushing the bike's limits, however fleetingly.

[@maxduke3505]

My next purchase.🖤💜

[@sunuk1915]

Honda doing awesome 👌

[@AleksiJoensuu]

V-Strom 650 for a competitor? A lil' more power from the V-twin, but those still get pretty good mileage and are quite practical.

[@1990-t1j]

It needs an adjustable screen, fatbars and a better quality swingarm. Looks good now, though.

[@sissydreams7494]

A quick look at the specs leads me to believe that the 3.8 gallon gas tank is TOO SMALL. Additionally, it's a bit overweight at 472 lbs. (especially when you consider a LOT of riders will add accessories, luggage, and luggage CONTENTS or camping gear). So, a little lacking -- at least for ME. So close, yet so far. It could absolutely become the BEST travel bike for smaller riders, with a few tweaks.

[@PovilasPanavas]

What do you mean a tank is too small? You can do 200 miles (360km) with it. Reserve starts on about 300km and last for 80km or so. How much range do you need?

[@braikka]

Only the DCT version is available here in Finland.

[@Fiatmannen1]

Cruise control and android auto would have been the bees knees.

[@hacksaw4966]

I think Don got it wrong the first time. The original bike is not radically different from the new one, it's just not as modern and desirable, maybe kind of like the woman you married. But I still love the old lady... But since I can upgrade motorcycles more easily than spouses, the 2021 model has got my eye!

[@tknadin]

Great show, lads

[@koviyovas8325]

My 2015 nc700x was able to fit my xl hjc full face helmet

[@seanfenwick]

How is the DCT for disabled folks? I can’t change gear but miss my biking days.

[@otablott7779]

With DCT there is no gear shifter or clutch lever. The bike changes gears up or down automatically depending on your speed.

[@Turco949]

Generally, fun comes from torque and torque comes from V-Twin engine. That said, a shorter and much lighter friend has a 2018 model and absolutely loves it. I'd love to own one of these but sadly, my fat ass needs at least a liter size engine!

[@rockyp3917]

The stopped selling this wonderful bike in Australia

[@tepidtuna7450]

Yep, sad !

[@abc-un4xz]

I owned nc 750xd 2017 it had tft display no traction control Like I need for a 50 bhp bike .

[@bigred8438]

How did they make it 10% cheaper?........by getting it made in Thailand.

[@MultiGoulash]

No it's not. Still made in Japan

[@claretbuck1882]

Awesome 👍🏻

[@sanshyu7609]

the headlight remains of honda CS1

[@Cycleit]

No center stand, no heated grips and no cruise control, is this still the 1990s?

[@dawienel1142]

you get most of that with the adventure pack.

[@Cycleit]

@@dawienel1142 Cruise?

[@dawienel1142]

@Cycleit probably not, but the rest, yes.

[@randyblake2006]

I'd like to see Honda put a nicer display on this bike ...like the one on the X-ADV or, my favourite, the Rebel 1100.

[@snapon1948]

No cruise control, belt drive , hopefully for the next upgrade

[@n057828]

DCT 2021 Australia 🇦🇺? When can we get one. Second question if DCT can a learner ride one , 3 Auto license can I ride one?

[@tepidtuna7450]

I believe the DCT was offered on the NC, and on the Africa. Not enough sales. We're a bunch of bloody purists. I ride a Hayabusa but would love one of these as a local hack to get around Sydney on. Can't get one. 🥺

[@1990-t1j]

Another comment from me 11 months later. I am going to buy one in Thailand in October. I'll take the screen off and fit fatbars. Bullwarks to the swingarm. It'll do.

[@lucacima68]

What do you think about the poor tyres Dunlop D609 that NC750X has when is new? They're very dangerous and they wear off quickly! Thanks and bye, Luca.

[@carlosandleon]

how does this compare to the Versys 650?

[@nilslofthagen686]

The versys is a little more top heavy, not quite as smooth or economical, but on the plus side, more sporty, more power, and more fun in the twisties. It really depends on what you want from your bike.

[@bigred8438]

Where have you been?

[@stevengriffiths332]

Some of us actually use motorcycles on roads not just race tracks

[@colingoldthorpe5918]

Our local Honda dealer tells me that 90% of new gold wings are the DCT model that they barely order any manual Gold Wings anymore because they barely can sell them. It's the same for the Africa Twin bike too. Though this year they had barely any bikes for sale (couldn't get any from the manufactures).. This bike is a little small for the Canadian highways I don't see many of them around!!!!

[@chrisredfield3240]

The dct on the Africa twin adds weight and a lot of cost I'm surprised anyone bothers. An adventure sport with DCT almost makes it more expensive than a KTM 1290 or r1250gs

[@BN1960]

The seat is known as the worst one in Chistendom What's it like - truthfully?

[@oklahomahank2378]

I replaced it with a Sargent. Yes, the factory seat was awful in 2015.

[@NMCD0892]

Apparently they've improved it for 2021. Looking forward to a test ride to see. Either way though, aftermarket seats, exhausts, handguards etc. are so common on most bikes nowadays. Part of the fun for me is making a bike my own by adding my own upgrades.

[@oklahomahank2378]

@@NMCD0892 my mods. kzbin.info/www/bejne/raPKlHx7dq6ejdU

[@bv3045]

Not one reviewer gets IT, regarding the DCT. Place it in Manual mode for about nn hours of varied riding (especially the twisties). Then progress to the various AUTO modes. Whoopee ! I learned on a car with three on the tree and non-synchro low with Power nothing .......... no thanks .... lol ....

[@doolittlegeorge]

Love my 700. This is way better.

[@DannyBBom]

How's this compare to the CB500x?

[@chrisredfield3240]

Not very well. This just costs a lot more, is a good bit heavier, is no faster, less fun. And the 500 is just as good on fuel. Unless you want an automatic that is.

[@chrisw4215]

@@chrisredfield3240 cb500x doesn't have a traction control

[@chrisredfield3240]

@@chrisw4215 can this think even break traction. So heavy and so little power.

[@BassOutcast]

The 500X is noticably lighter, around 20kgs less or so. It also is narrower, feels smaller too. It's made in Thailand, and you really notice that when compared to the Japanese built NC. You can see it in the long term quality - my NC700X had a rough life before I bought it, and it still looks wonderful at 115K KM. A 2014 CB500X won't look as good with a fraction of the kms, and will rust quicker. The NC has low down torque and pulls like a V-twin, while the CB is a typical understressed parallel twin. The NC is also longer, and easier to work on.

[@marinusk67]

10 kg more for the dct version. In motorcycle terms , thats a whole lot of weight

[@jkro30a]

If you think the NC is boring then you aren't riding it right.

[@neighbourhoodmusician]

I'm not sure why DCT bikes don't still retain the left foot gear lever and just make it electronic. It's a much nicer way to change gear than the + and - buttons.

[@68ctcb]

I believe you can add a foot operated lever on the cross tourer and AT. Not sure about this one

[@jimporter]

@@68ctcb yes you can but hardly anyone fits them. Anyway now Honda have shown they are working on Clutch by wire it is likely that all future bikes will come with DCT engine , CBW and foot shifter to simplify manufacture and logistics.

[@PovilasPanavas]

because on paper it sounds good, in reality probably no one orders despite this being an option. Left hand has nothing to do anyway besides using turn signals, thus clearly can press a button to shift. Plus those buttons placed nicely, you can reach them without thinking.

[@chrisredfield3240]

So now it makes almost as much power as a 1995 cb500s

[@peterfisher2586]

but how much more useable torque?

[@chrisredfield3240]

@@peterfisher2586 a lot more usable torque It's just such a low number 58hp from 750cc twin ! ktm 790 Duke makes 105hp and is 169kg dry

[@IgnitionBikeShow]

@@chrisredfield3240 Cost? Purpose? But you're right in some ways, it's a pretty impressively tiny power output. Should be more. Mid-70's at least.

[@tedwijaya1]

i m lazy,,,,,dct is the best....thanks honda

[@problemslayer3538]

Ducatis are L twins not V twins

[@googlelimp9834]

im 46 riding since 9 years old I've never ever to this ever used a clutch uther than to stop pull off or gears down ish, I've also been an instructor for 20 years so still to this day don't see the point in that rubbish,

[@felgercarb3803]

Well, now we know who Honda also pays for reviews.

[@jacobtobodotobodo5649]

I loved how they glazed over the atrocious suspension bit.. `life is good` Genius :)

[@dawienel1142]

The suspension is plenty good enough for most, that's probably why. My 2014 Honda NC750x handles plenty well and I'm loving the soft suspension that it has.

[@sandwaves5642]

This 2012st mod. is slightly more agile, but it feels cheaper. Even the engine is more rattling, than on the 2020th. Shocks - shorter travel, and it feels almost same ( sliiiightly better ) on bumps, cracks, holes.... No, this is not an "allarrounder", anymore. Sitting is lower - I dodn't like. Seat - abit more comfy, but less enjoyable to ride as tptal experience. Slightly less conf. inspiring at near-top speeds. Windscreen - just a decoration ( useless ). No Cruise Control is a big ( - ) ! - It's a ride by wire now, so why no CC ? - cheaper ? 👎 I thought to give it a chance, and maybe to discover that I was wrong, but after trying this 2021 bike, I was happy to go back to my 19/20 mod 🤷‍♀️ Some do like it more. I was not impressed. I would buy it ( "upgrade" to 2021 ) if it had, alt least, same shocks' travel ( with improved motion ), a CC and not so flimzy feel - especially of the storage cover 🤮 - reduced quality 🤢

[@PovilasPanavas]

Very valid points that some things got downgraded

[@wwfww]

Its more expensive than a mt07, what the what the what

[@Adrian-uq9mq]

stopped watching when I realised who you were, the man that ruined the vfr1200x video, not someone i can trust

[@swapnilpatil6473]

With that much amount of money for NCx i will go for T7..it's adventure and it's lightweight

[@BN1960]

You've missed the point that this was a DCT box which the T7 doesn't have

[@bertbirge3617]

No DCT for me!!.....

[@volt7cooltangs701]

I still think the previous 2016 NC750x looks better.

[@Rrrrrrricky56789]

Totally agree with this. Was considering buying the new model until I saw the ugly looks 😫

[@volt7cooltangs701]

R Eor Yes, and the 2016 model is euro 4 so scope for decatting and exhaust options if needed.

[@tommck2386]

Ben Button

[@bmccameron7642]

I recently bought a 2018 manual and have to say I find it incredibly dull. Asthmatic over 5500 rpm. It IS practical, but otherwise as dull af

[@МирославГенковски-ъ2у]

Electronic its not an adventure!!!

[@grahamhiggins1]

Rust buckets unfortunately, but they have a strong following who will defend them to the hilt, despite their huge failings. A commuter, that’s all.

[@mrthomas394]

1970s swingarm.... Shame on you honda awful cheap looking rear end

[@BibtheBoulder]

Brilliantly boring.....and yet boringly brilliant.

[@kalaharimine]

The sooner Honda get rid of this 1/2 a Jazz and bring back a proper Transalp the better.

[@chrisredfield3240]

Is a jazz a 1.5 litre with 116hp sounds pepe for a small car. Probably faster than this bike ! 750cc 58hp

[@ronbosgra8230]

Bee Cee, you're believing in a story made by a journalist who was joking. You're in luck though, Honda has renewed the Transalp brand and are probably showing a new Transalp end of this year at the EICMA to battle Yamaha's T7.

[@stevengriffiths332]

Terrible review from South Africa guy who only judges bikes from track performance

[@RoterAdmiral]

Repetitive full beam and traffic.

[@cosef4491]

3 more hps😱. Honda be reasonable. That thing will eat tires. The DCT is popular with Honda customers that buy their boring motorcycles?!? No…you don’t say but hey when you compare their motorcycles to driving an automatic car….well. That review looked as painful to Don as it did for me to watch it. Here’s hoping the next review is a motorcycle that gets the blood circulating😁

[@IgnitionBikeShow]

He's the one who said it was now 'fun'. The Bike Show's 'old guy' begs to differ, but Don's a diplomat above all else. The auto thing I quite dig tho' on the bigger models like the 'Wing z- suits it perfectly.

[@billgilkerson5294]

Convert your gobbledygook metric to ENGLISH for us yanks.

[@BN1960]

Do it yourself

[@NMCD0892]

I'm from the UK. We use proper imperial MPG's so first thing I did when he gave KM/L figures was to pause video, open google and work out this bike got extraordinary fuel economy.

[@davidjones535]

about 84 mpg

[@tepidtuna7450]

Maybe when you Yanks start showing Metric in your vids too. Like that will ever happen. For the rest of the World, we're Metric.

[@andrewsoldan6050]

honda screwed up perfectly good bike, shame on honda.

[@jimporter]

Got to make room for the Transalp and NT1100.

[@andrewsoldan6050]

@@jimporter looks like that indeed

[@weekendwarriorT7]

I doubt any sentence that starts with NC7* and ends with fun. just buy a scooter already....

[@chrisredfield3240]

This is a scooter just has the gap filled in with a plastic storage thing it's even an automatic

[@peterfisher2586]

Have you actually ridden one?

[@chrisredfield3240]

@@peterfisher2586 no I'm not interested unless I'm buying one. If I had a friend with one I could try it. But I don't know anyone dull enough to buy one

[@rickgarcia8481]

@@chrisredfield3240 Lol, you apparently have never owned a scooter.. There is no comparison between this bike and a scooter... I own both, one is a Honda silverwing 600, so no slouch as scooters go.. A ctv transmission is nowhere near as nice as a dct transmission.. So talking like you know anything about it is just talking

[@rickgarcia8481]

@@peterfisher2586 people like Chris act like they know everything about bikes when on fact on this subject they no nothing.

[@clg_pro2009]

750 way more powerful lol yea I don't think so. 2013 nc700x non DCT 1/4 mile 13.9 2021 750 I believe is 13.5 so less than half a second faster??? yea no big wins here just saying what others said. Maybe if your 200-250 lbs you need the 750 but my 150lb ass will meet or beat you on your 750 with the 700 lol cheers

[@Womanwolfrider]

One of the most boring bikes ever made! New one who knows?

[@chrisdewet9572]

Basically a big scooter. Zzzzzz

[@IgnitionBikeShow]

Chris, are you mad? Big scooters are cool. And fun, and they're two wheels which is always a good thing, no?

[@chrisdewet9572]

@@IgnitionBikeShow Wheels is wheels, I'm with you there. But I can think of a certain Japanese parallel twin that would surely be a lot more fun and versatile for this money though? Personally there are 2 cylinders short in this one for me. Haha. That said, boring has a place though and I'm sure the commuter crowd will eat this little GS wannabe right up.

[@Johnrider1234]

I just bought a 2023