HONDA PAN EUROPEAN ST1300 REVIEW MARK SAVAGE

A LOOK ROUND TOP OF THE RANGE PAN, REVIEW AND CHAT FACTS

[@scootyman2974]

48,000 miles on a V4 1300 is just about run in. If you consider a four cylinder petrol car can do in excess of 250,000 miles these days then that mileage wouldn’t worry me. There’s an ST1100 sat in a bike garage in Dunfermline and he reckoned it had 200,000 plus on the clocks. It looked well used mind but it still ran well. My CBF 1000 has just 14,000 at 12 years old so it will be a while before I can make excuses to the other half about changing for something else. Got to say I fancy something like this thought. Enjoy Best regards Scoots

[@marksavage]

thanks bud and for watching and yes they are real mile munchers and great to ride

[@clivewyatt6189]

You wanted to know why the left hand glove box was so shallow it is because the RDS radio unit is installed in there a metal plate is the put on top to protect it. My bike is 02 Amazon green too with the same upgrade as yours although I have cruise control as well.

[@scottycameron9805]

Wife looks pissed at the new toy. Do love the green colour. My 04 no radio. Goes like snot though. No wobble here.

[@bradrichards6107]

Thanks for posting this video, Mark. That bike is in excellent condition. I have always been partial to Honda motorcycles. Have a good week.

[@marksavage]

Brad Richards thanks for the comment and for watching Mark

[@gopher1471]

Lovely bikes the Pans, I have ridden these and the RT's , GTL etc, but I went for the Trophy, same as your old one. No problems so far with it. I actually felt it was lighter than the other bikes but possibly that was just me although kerb weight wet for Pan with ABS is 327 kg, Trophy only 301 kg again wet. I say only .....as we both know anything over 300 kg is heavy. Love the videos and ride safe. Cheers David.

[@marksavage]

I agree bud and thanks for watching bud

[@gasguzzler5551]

Nice bike Mark, I think it was the Police that found the high speed wobble after one of its officers were killed. I believe the Police introduced a 100mph speed limit on the forces bikes ? The Welsh constabulary sold all their MK1s and replaced with a later version

[@marksavage]

Gas Guzzler I had been told that to by a paramedic work friend who knew about it as they also had the same limit imposed He still rides his st1100 lol Thanks for watching bud and your comment Mark

[@SurmaSampo]

The front generates lift at high speed and the arse dives a little bit which is where the weave is supposed to come from. Adding a little down force to the front and stiffening the rear suspension is supposed to cure the problem. The police bike does have some mechanical differences and the change was to some cross link chassis stiffening rod.

[@rickseibel5904]

Another ST owner stated that the wobble was due to placing heavy articles in the top box or “boot” on your side of the pond. I also viewed another video on how to respond should any motorcycle begin to wobble......simply “lay down”, as if trying to decrease the wind resistance one’s body creates when sitting up right.

[@yardblah5161]

Lovely bike. Can the panniers come off?

[@marksavage]

yes they do and the rear box but this one had lights in it so would have to disconnect them first , only thing to be honest without the panniers on it looked a little odd as they are shaped in to the bike

[@petershaw2102]

Just purchased a red one with a lot of extras and low k,s. Full history and almost new tyres. Looking forward to that next long ride. Brother has a blue one and rode around Aus last year, no problems and still had tread on the tyres when he got home, though they were pretty square.

[@marksavage]

Just great mile munchers and comfortable , enjoy bud

[@MrUltralight55]

Great video. I have a 2012 HondaSt1300A it just turned 5200 miles, love this bike!!

[@marksavage]

they are well built great arounders , thanks for watching bud take care

[@colinbourne8345]

i had a st1100 pan, 54k miles of trouble free riding and handled surprisingly well for a hefty old tank, plenty of sunday morning rossi wannabees looked twice.. if the 1300 is half as good then you will love it

[@marksavage]

colin bourne I have heard the st1100 was a good bike and some still prefer them to the st1300 I’ll let you know how I get on with it Thanks for watching Mark

[@stevenplace154]

Left pocket has radio head unit in it

[@briantel9432]

117hp 89 foot of torque at rear wheel on 2007

[@marksavage]

it doesn't mean much for these girls as just a great ride

[@donaldweaver5128]

Fantastic bike but a pig to work on .

[@marksavage]

Lots of plastic to remove I fitted a bike camera on mine and changed the bulbs and it was a lot of pulling apart Videos on here worth a watch Take care bud

[@dennisgreene7164]

Too right - costs a packet to service - two services a year, intermediate and full. Full service can cost an arm and two legs. That is the big downside, that and the lack of any electronics on the machine.

[@Jodyrides]

The heat coming off of this engine/radiator pours over the rider making it very uncomfortable to ride if the temperature is about 65°. Forget about riding this bike if it’s over 80°. I went to test drive an ST 1300 at the end of August, 2021. Original owner, beautiful condition low miles many extras .. I told the seller I would not be right back on the test drive, I told him I would be gone around an hour at least. I got 15 minutes away, just long enough for the engine to get fairly warm, I started feeling the heat on my legs. I had sport bike street boots on, Kevlar jeans, mesh jacket, deerskin gloves, modular helmet.. I was on back roads, sunny day, 85°, no stop signs, no traffic lights. Averaging about 50 miles an hour on a winding tree wind through the country smooth road. Nice ride, nice power, the engine was not nearly as smooth as I thought it would be. Of course I had just sold my GL 1800 Goldwing two months ago, so maybe I’m a little jaded about what is smooth and what is not. I was not lugging the engine.. oh and I got 15 minutes out and felt that heat, that made my mind up right there. I turned around and took the machine back, it was hotter then..The machine had aftermarket foldout highway pegs, I put my feet out on them to get more pooling on my legs, and the opposite happened, I was getting more heat on my legs from the exhaust heat air ducts on the faring pouring the heat on my legs. What a pity

[@clivewyatt6189]

I got some after market heat deflectors pushes the heat from the engine out through the back stops the heat coming out from the sides works a treat. Yes your correct you are jaded you can’t get anything smoother than a Goldwing, although the latest version is a little rough around 60mph in top.

[@dennisgreene7164]

I rode mine in Spain for three years - never really got that hot in temperatures of 40C degrees plus.

[@eddie_cooper]

I’m 35 but I want one 😂

[@briantel9432]

Just broke in if it was a Harley Davison time for a overhaul 😨😲

[@marksavage]

yes bud all in great bikes

[@davespooney8472]

A big chunk of Japanese engineering for the money. Bargains.

[@marksavage]

Dave Spooney you do get a lot of bike for your money Thanks for watching mark

[@Visionery1]

@Dave Spooney, yes, incredible value for money, especially when compared to the new 1800 Gold Wing.

[@EbaleyTheRogue]

Always funny, ever informative, and greatly entertaining. Thanks, Mark!

[@marksavage]

thanks bud that's good to hear and thanks for watching, theres loads more videos on my channel for you to watch lol

[@amacmotovlogs]

I love my ST1300, and no I'm not 50. I love the color of yours . Enjoy it mate.

[@marksavage]

X Biker's Life featuring Prince Moto Mac ha ha good to hear you enjoy yours as I am mine I’m. 47 so getting there lol

[@N0S2050]

😉👍

[@cherylcanning9499]

Dont have to be 50yrs old my husband owns the st1100 hes only 31 lol

[@marksavage]

im 52 now so im ok pmsl , agree you dont have to be over 50

[@cherylcanning9499]

@mark savage great bikes although he needs to solve the charging problem out on it as it wont charge the battery fully either rectifier OR the alternator needs upgrading to 40amps hes not sure yet and the slight over heating when slow riding

[@luc1ferblack]

Hi bud. I have probably one of the most modded pans you will find. A couple of unusual mods i did was a rear lower shelf behind the numberplate for a tent with strap on spare number plate and i gutted the underseat to make it much bigger and be able to access the bulbs from under the seat. Lastly i made a ply plate that hop swaps with the box to carry bigger stuff. I have a video about it on my channel but also more details i the fb group under the file section called st1300 mods. main stuff to change or add is front and rear fenda extenda and rad guard. over dash sat nav mount so you dont look down and short sport screen for the summer. I would go with a bluetooth intercom a quadlock phone mount modded above the dash and waze on your phone which is better than a sat nav. remove the radio in the pocket and insulate the pocket and install soft foam and a twin usb socket to charge your phone. for lights change the bulbs to led natgic match the colour to the lens dont use white and for the headlights novsight led for £30 on amazon the silver ones will blow you away with cutoff and power

[@TheDervMan]

Looks to be in great condition and very well cared for. I’d be interested to hear Mrs Savage’s thoughts on that rather comfy looking pillion seat with armrests.

[@marksavage]

DervMan hi bud It’s a lot lower so her little legs should be fine get on lol And agree that seat looks very comfortable after my ride out we will have to go on a road trip Take care bud Mark

[@TheDervMan]

mark savage I hope she doesn’t read this otherwise you’ll get another smack on the head for the “little legs” comment 😉. Looking forward to watching the maiden trip video. 👍🏻

[@marksavage]

DervMan 😂😂😂😂 You know it’s coming Pmsl

[@mattgibson4535]

Great vid mate, one of my all time fav bikes looking forward to the ride out. P.s that cat next door looked very disappointed when she closed the door lol.

[@marksavage]

Matt Gibson thanks for watching bud they are great bikes and will go for a ride soon and upload It That cat lives a few doors down the other way but Dave started feeding it last year and it now sits outside his every day waiting for food Note to all !! Never feed someone’s else’s cats 🐈 lol

[@mattgibson4535]

@@marksavage a black cat trick or treating, things just got strange lol.

[@marksavage]

Matt Gibson trick defo lol 😂

[@Mikhail_Koks]

What is the name/color number of this motorcycle?

[@marksavage]

It was a nice colour but sold it since , so sorry but ,maybe try and contact honda with the info on this video as they should be able to help Thanks for watching

[@Mikhail_Koks]

@@marksavage 🤝🏻

[@dennisgreene7164]

I have the same bike (65k and running great) - friends say it is black or blue but the VLC says green? It is not green. I would call it metallic blue. On another note, how did you find the Trophy versus the Pan - was it very heavy seriously?

[@marksavage]

the colour is odd but i did like it lol, as for the trophy i really liked the bike and theres a video on me going to the isle of wight and it rode very well ,weight is the same but when full of fuel and luggage she is top heavy but still rides very well i have it over the pan , theres a few videos on the trophy on my channel worth watching plus an mk1 pan which i also liked

[@bigtool4088]

Very nice mark 👌🏻

[@marksavage]

Thanks bud

[@mysse67]

Lovely bike, the wobble was caused by people loading more than 9 kilo in the top box and going 100 miles an hour. Just bought one myself from 2005 but haven’t picked it up yet.

[@marksavage]

yea i did see this about them but still all round great bikes bud

[@micahhdti]

Hi Mark, have you still got it? I saw one of these ( North American st1300 version,same bike) with 53k kms on the clock. I'm still on the fence. Cheers

[@marksavage]

we worth a test ride bud I enjoyed mine, also might be worth a look at the triumph 1215 video on here too

[@steveclark..]

Why did you get rid of the Trophy? Personally I think that's the better bike, not that the Pan is a bad bike, I just prefer an inline engine and the cruise control, heated seats that come with the SE version.

[@marksavage]

Steve Clark I really did 💕 love the trophy and will get another My wife can’t tour with me until next year and didn’t want to ride it on my own over the winter I bought the versys to do it but missed the full fairing so bought a cheap pan Your right it’s not as good but will do Thanks for watching there’s more good videos on my channel you might like to watch Mark

[@jonathanmellish4439]

I am interested to know if the Trophy was better finished than the Tiger 800. Like you I think the trumpets aren’t as well built as other bikes. You certainly change your bikes regularly !

[@steveclark..]

@@jonathanmellish4439 What's not so good on the Tiger 800 then? So far I have no complaints about the finish on my Trophy, 5 years on, no flaking wheel or engine paint for example.

[@jonathanmellish4439]

@@steveclark.. hi. Mark had rust appearing on his engine guards etc which he wasn't so happy about. Just curious.

[@jonathanmellish4439]

@@marksavage how is the finish on the 03 Pan. The Tiger was not so good on the engine bars etc. Nice review.

[@wightwalker2453]

Wanted one, but the weave thing put me off.

[@marksavage]

To be honest I never had the any problems riding it They are great all round mile muncher bikes

[@wightwalker2453]

I tend to agree but even the rumour is a fly in the ointment, so for me fjr1300. Thanks for the review.

[@marksavage]

@@wightwalker2453 ive had a few fjr's and do agree they are good all round bikes to but the triumph was better for all round touring , check them ouit on my channel as I do have some great review videos kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIW8Z4xqZ7t-iZo kzbin.info/www/bejne/o36zp52gotyZnZY

[@OzBloke]

Wight walker 245 It’s a load of bollocks - seemed only to apply to police spec bikes!

[@clivewyatt6189]

Had mine nearly 20 years never had a weave. The weave was more to do with the police bike set-up which tuned suspension and accessories like heavy fire extinguisher etc.

[@robk568]

Any issues with the death wobble that is common with the ST

[@marksavage]

Its been talked about a lot Keep screen down , only half fill tank , don't over load the luggage However i never had any issues and the bike rode very well

[@PanRider939]

Your left pocket has something installed in it. The left pocket is 21cm (8inches) deep. The top box is by Givi produced hence the Givi key, a locksmith could do something about that.

[@marksavage]

the left pocket has the radio in it and yes the lock could do with being key'd a like thanks for watchingv

[@PanRider939]

@@marksavage Also you have the black side cover fill-ins installed which were added on the '08 model. Someone has done some nice upgrades on this one. As for the radio, free up some pocket space, ditch it and get yourself a Cardo Packtalk Bluetooth set/s. Listen to Spotify, Fm radio, satnav, talk to your passenger other bike, in helmet, all out of a device smaller than a cigarette packet.

[@cityscot]

FANNY

[@krzysztof490]

What make of this radio fitted to bike is it?

[@marksavage]

Its from honda and was an extra , not seen many with them but they are out there.

[@donweaver1600]

Best touring bike out there

[@marksavage]

great all round bud ,agree

[@deemmort]

Hi. Just quick question. Can you flat foot on this one, and how tall are u? thx mate

[@marksavage]

Easy flat and I'm 5,8 bud

[@dennisgreene7164]

@@marksavage I'm flat footing and 5ft6

[@marksavage]

Yes bud and I'm 5.7 29 leg Watch my triumph trophy video As nice with more toys but wider and taller Yamaha fjr is also nice but no toys lol All videos on my channel bud

[@hondapilot395]

Good bike, I like it!

[@marksavage]

they are great bikes bud , enjoy

[@thebikerbrit1311]

Hi mark, is there a smudge on the camera? Past 3 videos have a blur in the centre, thought it was my phone lol

[@marksavage]

MasterLehw i bloody dropped my go pro face down and it has a scratch now on the lens Grrrrrr Not happy and don’t have another £200 for a new one at present but ! I will get one soon Sorry bud I know it’s annoying but thanks for watching I thought it made my face better for the camera Pmsl Take care Mark

[@gonedetectinguk5906]

@@marksavage bikes stuning To big for me Am a scooter kind i guy. Lol But admier the bigger bikes My ideal classic wouuld. Be Bsa or emfueld thats engeneiring Do you buy do up then sell ? And any vids on elec start probs scooter ? Cheers m8 Am in west of scotland 30 mins from glasgow Going to try get some footage Of the hills upload it

[@roadwarrior8560]

that's not a review, review it after you've had it a while, this is first impressions.