HONEST PROS/CONS OF VIPKID

[@DreamyVibeDesigns]

YEEESSSS!!!!! YES. YES. YEESSS TO ALL OF THIS! The raise requirements not working for people who just can't/don't teach as many classes. The pay deductions for cancelations. The whole it costing more money to go get a doctor's note. Just... yes. Was so great to visit the Beijing and San Fran headquarters and really hear about how they are trying to make a lot of these policy's and procedures work for more teachers. I love that you shared your thoughts with us. The more we all voice our thoughts and opinions on what just doesn't work for the teachers the better. Otherwise, VIPKid wouldn't know where we stand on everything and what needs to be re-looked at. :)

[@candicemitchell2963]

Erin, can you elaborate on what you heard in HO and HQ regarding making the cancellation policy work for more teachers? (financial deduction for cancelling is ridiculous).

[@DreamyVibeDesigns]

Candice Peterson - We just discusses all of Angela’s cons in Beijing and the company recognizes that changes need to be made.

[@triciapatrick4460]

Erin, was anything discussed about raises? Like Angela, I was hired at the lowest. I wish I could have a different evaluation because I do not feel they understand my true abilities. While I am not a certified teacher, teaching in the public schools is all I have done as a paraprofessional. I have a degree in Special Education. I work every day with students with disabilities to include speech and learning disabilities. This was never brought out in my crazy interview. My crazy interview that I was so nervous and unaware of what to do because my mentor never had a referral and did not know how to help. I sure wish they would take a good look at me now!!

[@AngelaSilva]

Patricia, I've brought it up to the team in the US before and they agreed it was unfair, but they don't influence those policy changes, that's on the Beijing side. The growth of the US team is the best thing VIPKID ever did. It's funny, as a recruiter I've brought up changes and have the opposite problem sometimes - they change the referral program so often and adapt it for the teacher's benefit constantly. I just wish they did the same for teaching.

[@EvelynJoy]

VIPKID Teacher Erin YESSSS!!! I have a vlog about me teaching with a stomach virus and another vlog about me teaching with almost NO voice! I taught the morning after I miscarried my son and the morning after my mom passed away from cancer. The TNS I have are from forgetting to set an alarm. The cancellation policy SCARES me so bad!

[@Lala-gn4pj]

You should have gotten paid a lump sum to have your face on billboards for VIPKID.. Not fair!

[@cynimonnn]

File a lawsuit! XD

[@theresaclueless]

@@cynimonnn she can't we agreed to using images in our contracts "TEACHER acknowledges that classes arranged through the VIPKID Platform may be recorded to enable Students to access the class recordings for educational purposes, and TEACHER consents to such recordings. TEACHER further consents to the use of such recordings by VIPKID and its subsidiaries, affiliates, related companies and licensees for marketing and promotional purposes. TEACHER also consents to the use by VIPKID and its subsidiaries, affiliates, related companies and licensees, of TEACHER’s name, portrait, likeness, appearance, and/or photograph, for marketing and promotional purposes. TEACHER agrees to treat any class recordings generated in connection with the performance of services covered by this Agreement as Confidential Information belonging to VIPKID, subject to the obligations specified in Section 10 of this Agreement." Sorry, but the contract gives them the right to use it as they please.

[@Dan-rn6xm]

Wha wha

[@theresaclueless]

@Sun Seeker lol obviously you don't work for VIPKID if you think that will still get you the job. VIPKID currently has 90K teachers. She would be so easily replaced if she had turned down her offer demanding pay for her picture being used. I work for VIPKID, Gogokid, and Utop (a korean company), I interviewed with additionally DaddaABC, Bling ABC, and Magic Ears. i also previously worked for Orange Talk as well but they went out of business. The one thing they all have in common is the line in the contract that states they can use your image at their discretion. Trying to talk your way out of that is not going to happen if you want to work in online ESL you just have to be willing to accept that you can be used as an endorsement for the product.

[@theresaclueless]

@Sun Seeker perhaps maybe some people don't know how to teach it, but my degree is in English education. I have taught in the traditional classroom both English lit. and ESL. I do know how to teach English.

[@halliebrown3282]

Thank you Angela for your honesty. I’m a newbie. I previously worked in Japan as an ESL teacher which led me to getting a higher wage than my mentor-he was nice, but I could tell he was surprised. I’m bummed that you aren’t eligible for a raise. You’ve definitely helped me quite a bit in this journey! I’m too new to complain too much and only have one consistent student, but I am hopeful some of these issues will be rectified in the future. I hope that in the future you get more opportunities for job enhancement and travel. I can see why they use you in ads for the company-you’re an excellent spokesperson!

[@MegannLockVIPKID]

I seriously love how authentic this vid is. It takes some guts to be transparent like this! & you’re spot on with the financial penalties... they’re the worst 😭.

[@AngelaSilva]

Thank you! If we don't talk about the problems they won't know they exist or to what degree. It's better to talk about it and make changes than wait and let problems fester.

[@MegannLockVIPKID]

👏🏻 🙌🏻

[@EvelynJoy]

Megann Lock VIPKID agreed!

[@MissModernprincess]

does that mean that they charge you 40$ on your NEXT pay check or they actually take out 40$ from your current bank account?@@AngelaSilva

[@AngelaSilva]

They deduct it from your current total, it will immediately show up in your payment tab.

[@Carliannroberts]

I didn’t get my raise with VIPKID after a year because I had too many cancellations. Most of those came from when I first started and my husband got encephalitis and had to be airlifted to another hospital. He was unconscious for 17 hours, and the last thing I wanted to worry about was teaching kids while my husband had a machine breathing for him. I was incredibly disheartened that something like that cost me a pay raise.

[@AngelaSilva]

Oh my gosh, that's terrifying! I'm so sorry you went through that, and it's insult to injury to find out that despite all of your excellent work, that emergency disqualified you.

[@marissasharp9892]

Carli Roberts That’s just awful! Does anyone know, 9 months after this video, if they’ve changed anything?

[@mandifrantz6543]

Totally not related, but your eyeshadow is GORGEOUS!

[@rhondamichael6040]

I wanted to say that too!

[@lauramichellebjork7235]

I was thinking the same thing!!!

[@tgcme1]

Her whole make up game is on point!

[@soccerdadmike]

As are her eyes!!

[@econdude3811]

Why do you think she has 23,000 subscribers, the presentation and content seem good but come on

[@julieb9366]

I think they should let us earn free cancellations over time (number of contracts or number of classes without cancelling maybe). That way we've shown we're responsible teachers, and they show us that we're valued.

[@AngelaSilva]

That is a FANTASTIC idea, I didn't think of that! Thank you for sharing, these suggestions are exactly how we get the ball rolling on changes.

[@bcwkomomma2891]

Great idea. This is essentially what happens in a normal job. You accrue your sick/vacation hours based on your days worked.

[@ginapullen7262]

AMEN!!!!

[@christopherphillips6164]

I used to teach English in Asia. It is obvious that VIPKid is run with Asian management principles. Transparency, flexibility, a spirit of democracy and accountability are not known concepts in Asia. It is all about autocracy/treating the teachers as children.

[@courtnayj4990]

I was wondering about this and thought the same thing. Glad someone else said it. I can't accept that set of principles in my life and won't be working for this company.

[@christopherphillips6164]

@@courtnayj4990 ... Thanks for your input. I used to be an English teacher in two Asian countries. "Asian" management means top-down management -- something alien to Westerners.

[@christopherphillips6164]

Hi, Bella … As bad as public education is in America, at least the kids learn critical thinking -- something that does not take place in Asia. Also, unlike America, there is not much social mobility in Asia. Poor Asian kids know that their efforts in school are not likely to be rewarded -- so they don't try. This is because connections count ten times more than merit does in Asia.

[@ms.kalico4489]

@@christopherphillips6164 how long did you teach in Asia?

[@christopherphillips6164]

@@ms.kalico4489 .... I taught in Thailand and Burma between 1996 and 2008. I taught in Burma for 100 days in 2002, I think it was.)

[@heidibee476]

This title FREAKED me out! Oh my goodness! I am a Vipkid teacher also and I teach piano, too. I identify on many levels with you! I am so glad you didn't quit altogether...i can't believe you can survive on only short notice! That's amazing. And good call from your husband saying, "Don't teach..." sometimes that's a hard decision to make on our own. I hope you can effect change with the platform you have with Vipkid and influence on KZbin.

[@AngelaSilva]

I have so much feedback from parents, and kids even writing notes they've held up saying, "get better soon, teacher," cause they can tell I'm sick. I really don't think it'd be a huge deal to them if we explained why we had to cancel. Excessive cancellations and missing work has consequences like any job, but the financial deduction is excessive to me.

[@ravonnadow9065]

YES to ALL of this!! The raise structure HAS to change! I highly resent being expected to work seven days a week to receive any sort of raise or incentive. This job is supposed to work for ME and they constantly market it that way, and then surprise us with all these expectations. It is underhanded and lessens my respect for the company, and prevents me from making any sort of referrals. You telling us they are using your image without permission or remuneration is also very bad practice. In this country it is highly illegal. There should also be more consequences to students for inappropriate behavior. There should be a written company policy of unacceptable behaviors, and if a student does not follow them, their booking privileges should be revoked. A teacher should be able to request NOT to have to teach a student that has crossed a line. Love you and all you do for us, Miss Angela! Love your honesty. You helped me SO, SO, SO much throughout my hiring process. Thank you!

[@Bellavanacoffee]

I'm impressed that you shared this. Good points.

[@AngelaSilva]

Thank you, I will always advocate for teachers first.

[@EvelynJoy]

Dani Happy Farms Louisiana I AGREE SISTER!!!

[@babydee0404]

Thank you for this feed back. I have a masters in TESOL and I couldn’t seem to get past the mock class even with years of experience in teaching and great student feedback and academic success. This lets me know that as a side hustle it wouldn’t be worth the emotional stress to try and maintain the job

[@jasonstroman4550]

Wow I am amazed at some of the comments. My experience has been nothing like 90% of you. I have been with VIPKID for 361 days. I got a raise with my 3rd contract. I have taught 1811 classes and have 998 5 apples and 3 good. Never had an unsatisfactory. All 47 of my open slots fill 2 weeks out. I have never canceled. Full disclosure I have a PhD in management and am in the process of finished a EdD. I work online. So I work everyday regardless of where I am or what I am doing. That’s the cost for the freedom of not being tied to an office. I did that for 20 years and I will never do it again. This life is so much better.

[@elsiezebra4514]

With all due respect, since you work so hard (never cancelled) do you have "a life?" It seems that the Asian people MARRY their jobs for LIFE. In America, people move and grow and enjoys change so a JOB is secondary to life styles that change. With some work experience and the right education, people can choose to change jobs often. You are a little different. I know you enjoy what you do and can be proud of your accomplishments but your style matches the Asian style more than the American "ways".

[@sinthia667]

That's awesome... can I ask how you are paid? Is it per class? And would you mind telling me how much?

[@Michelle-pn9xt]

How much do you earn per month?

[@alliedouglas2823]

I started at 7.50 and I have a master's in teaching and have phenomenal scores meet all requirements for a raise except the amount of classes taught. After 2 years no raise which i was assured was easy to get when I argued in the beginning that I deserve more. I was literally giving birth asking my sign in so i could teach my class because i was worried they wouldn't believe it (thankfully since the birth certificate ending up reflecting the exact time of the class it wasnt an issue) since every other communication I had never worked out in my favor. I have taught through horrible pain and sickness so I wouldn't be punished. Thrown up on camera more than once. My biggest concern is the robotic answers. It seems like the support team doesn't know English and are using poor translators and just clicking whatever stock policy answer has the most key words to match. I feel like they have all the power and dont think of us as human with real families and bodily functions. The pay is so good and the master classes are so fun to teach that I continue almost 2 years later. This video really resonated. Thanks for your boldness.

[@tamarabauer6455]

Allie Moreland how is the “pay so good” when you only get 7.50 per class? Bonuses? People using your referral code?

[@ms.kalico4489]

@@tamarabauer6455 I was about to ask the same thing.

[@philippeclement3547]

I totally agree. If you have to cancel, you don't get paid. That's fine. But they should not deduct more money from you because of it. I absolutely agree they need to change their policy. They should not deduct money from your account.

[@neyl.1799]

Yes! I taught through viral pneumonia and having shortness of breath because I was afraid to cancel even if I would have received a soft cancellation. I just literally had to pray, have family on stand by and inform my students when I turned the camera on that I was sick although they could clearly tell because my voice was nearly gone. I do hope the policy changes, and I can understand the possible concerns VIPKid would have. I saw another teacher post about taking a break this month just like the students are and completely agree. Sometimes we just have to care of ourselves regardless of what the turn out may be. If we don’t, who will? Thank you for sharing! You are awesome!

[@AngelaSilva]

Oh gosh, I'm soo sorry to hear that :( I hope you're all healed up now!

[@neyl.1799]

Angela Silva yes I am! Thank the Lord!! 🙌🏽

[@den5576]

Hey Angela, I am on my second contract just did it a few weeks ago. My first contract i had no cancellations and of course what happens this month I already had 2 And I was sick. And yes cost more to go to the dr. I just hope I have no more and my contract will not end till August. I will probably never get a raise either because I dont teach that many classes due to that I do have a full time job that takes most of my time. I did get a big job opportunity and starting in March I am going to cut back and probably only do VIP kid twice M-F and my Sat and Sundays. I do love this job

[@Leigh-gf4rl]

Put your employees first and your business will thrive. VIPkid puts their parents first. They are cocky from their short term success and the ability to bring on more teachers quickly but this is not sustainable to the company or quality teaching. Students should be assigned teachers and if they don’t like them they can put in a request for a change. This environment of more more more just to keep a student takes the focus off the lesson (constant reward changes, wacky hats, and costly props) insane. These kids are old enough (except pre vip kids) to sit through a 25 min lesson without me spending what I make in that class just to keep them engaged and coming back. If VIPKID hires you. You’re qualified. Yet parents can pick you based on vanity, gender, and other presumptions. Shook.

[@alliedouglas2823]

I only use beanie babies and things I have around the house and I never changed my background. It is just a colorful map or a plain patterned tapestry, but because I speak clearly, smile, talk, and laugh, and use TPR with the students I have a lot of students that claim me as their favorite. Lately I have had all the bookings I can handle, I think because of China's new law requiring certification because bookings were an issue this time last year.

[@Leigh-gf4rl]

Allie Moreland I’m so happy you have that experience unfortunately many don’t share that experience that you do! Also believe it or not, not everyone has those items laying around 😁

[@alliedouglas2823]

@@Leigh-gf4rl sorry! I didnt mean for that to come across bratty...just to help you understand that you don't have to change all the time or use their stuff. Maybe go get a few items at the dollar store? Like a pack of flashcards and a few stuffed animals. They have great stuff!

[@Leigh-gf4rl]

Allie Moreland yes even at the dollar tree things add up. The point is it’s a purchase when they claim you don’t have to. Regardless of price which for some maybe a lot for other may not be. Because of the competition (fighting for spots and to keep regulars) teachers feel burdened to constantly change, upgrade, update etc. I’m not the only one that has experienced this and again I’m super happy you haven’t. But it’s a very real issue a lot of VIPKID teachers are facing.

[@Leigh-gf4rl]

Allie Moreland it’s not that I don’t understand that you don’t have to change. It’s that you haven’t experienced that you do. Depending on teacher. But again I heavily emphasize that I’m happy that you haven’t had the experience I and many many other teachers have! But just because you haven’t doesn’t mean it’s not tangible.

[@AlexMatsuo2004]

I completely agree! Off topic; what kind of camera do you use? The quality is amazing!

[@ashes528]

I totally agree with your pros and cons. I've been teaching since last May. I had never missed a class by November and then all of a sudden in one month I had an emergency procedure followed by the stomach flu. I had to cancel three different days. Thankfully, I only got booked $10 but I was upset about that. The sleep is an issue but I can help that by going to bed earlier. The time change has been beast because I used to only do 6 am classes but those all moved to five am. Anyway, thank you for sharing but not bashing the company. It is a great place to work. I love it and that I have the ability to make money from home then be with my kids all day. Thanks Angela!

[@AngelaSilva]

Of course, it really is the best job I've ever had. I love it so much I want it to always be the best and known leader in the industry.

[@danceographer]

Angela I just started with VIPKid and I feel all of this so much. I also wanted to say thank you for your authenticity. So many people think of bringing up downsides or concerns is being negative. In this video you are a perfect example about how you can bring up concerns in a constructive manner. Thank you for a wonderful video with wonderful content

[@amandawood6612]

First, thank you so much for ALL the MANY ways you have helped, inspired, and educated myself and many others! I love watching your videos! Secondly, I agree with everything you pointed out. I absolutely LOVE working for VIPKID and it has been an amazing life changing experience! However, I have been let down by them in the exact ways you mentioned. I have sent many tickets addressing issues, politely, asking for soft cancellation and was able to provide proof for the situations (power outage due to high winds...definitely out of my control and a Fireman suggested that I cancel) but I was still penalized my pay...that I had already earned...more than what I make per class....is most definitely an overly way to punish us. The fact that we are missing pay, letting down students and parents, and having it displayed on our profile is plenty of punishment for missing class. Taking away pay you rightfully earned on top of the rest is truly overboard. I just recently found out we have to meet a certain amount if finished classes in order for a pay raise. I feel that takes away from the perk of determining your own schedule and the whole point of Substitute teachers. A pay raise should be based upon an individuals performance not if they are capable of teaching 24/7 and having zero free time for family and friends. I strongly agree that these need to be changed for everyone's sake...teachers, students, and the company. Happier teachers = happier students = happy parents =VIPKID growth and productivity! I'm praying that VIPKID hears our voice and makes these changes soon before teachers leave and parents go elsewhere. I love VIPKID and truly want to do this the rest of my life, but I fear the company going kaput if these changes aren't made due to the domino effect.

[@Casey4210000]

Great information that answers many questions. Thank you. I lived and taught in China for four years. I am qualified with TESOL, IELTS, TEFL certifications and my face also ended up on billboards and in newspapers. This is going to sound harsh, but it had nothing to do with my teaching ability. There were plenty of teachers that were great that did not receive the recognition and feedback I did. It was simply because they were not young & female. Some even because they were simply short did not receive any recognition. Men and women who taught IELTS with extraordinary success when their student scores came back from international testing were passed by for raises and better contracts regularly. I am sure that you're a wonderful teacher and your experience speaks for itself, but you fit very well into the Chinese stereotype of what a teacher should look like. I hope you do get your raise through a policy chance because your reviews clearly indicate that you've earned it. While the billboards are flattering, they don't speak to your ability, although the ability is clearly present.

[@allenwrench3705]

Thank you Angela. I am seriously considering VIPkid. Thanks for the insight!

[@AngelaSilva]

No problem! Feel free to email me if you have any questions - [e-mail]

[@amandapalmer9402]

Hey, Angela! I really appreciate you speaking out on things that are negative. You have a platform and a voice for the company, so it’s great that you’re choosing to discuss the hard subjects, not just rainbows and sunshine.

[@AngelaSilva]

I've found that ignoring the tough things just makes bad feelings fester. VIPKID is the best job I've ever had, and I want them to stay the best.

[@earlinesawicki7205]

Thanks for speaking out about concerns that affect all of us. Perhaps they will listen to you. Thanks again.

[@clikes1]

Yes, thank you! ❤️

[@jacksoncao5030]

not always talking rainbows and sunshie is pragamatic and important !!! you know ,people tend to wear a social mask to say something is good but not honest!!!

[@teacherlitisha4234]

I completely agree with you on the new raise requirements. Similar to yourself I started at $7.50 (despite nearly 3 years experience teaching ESL in China and a degree), and I was actually told upon hiring that I would automatically receive a raise every other contract. Then they changed the policy. Ridiculously unfair!!! I guess I can understand why they changed it. The new policy allows them to base raises on straightforward metrics, as opposed to reviewing individual teachers. It was probably feasible to review individual contracts when there were just a few thousand teachers. Now with over 60K teachers, it would take a lot of manpower to maintain that. But if I'm getting certified and opening the slots but it's just that the parents aren't booking me, what am I supposed to do with that? Why are raises based on a metric that is beyond my control?

[@uofmd]

i am sorry to hear that. What are these contracts and how strict are they?

[@springfaeryevents5583]

I hear ya on all of those Cons. I live in Oregon and work 2-6am Mon-Sat. Soooo sleepy, I'm starting my daughter in after school care just so I can nap. Thanks for sharing so honestly.

[@AngelaSilva]

Ooph, I'm lucky to be on East Coast time, you west-coasters are rockstars!

[@margaretbrumbaugh525]

You took the words right out of my mouth when you said “add insult to injury”!! I actually said that to a VIPKID employee when they called about an incentive. The man asked for general feedback and I said said no other job does that, it feels degrading, and it’s like adding insult to injury. Thank you for sharing. I agree about we can still love a company and want to contribute to their betterment without it being negative. Well put Angela!

[@AngelaSilva]

I'm glad you got a chance to give feedback! I love that they ask for our feedback, I do believe they care and will always continue to grow as changes are needed.

[@grant5391]

Same frustrations over here from a long-time teacher. I had over 1,400 (yes THOUSAND) five-apple parent ratings and 12 (yes TWELVE) that were less than five and was still told I did not meet the 'apple rating' req for a raise. They've made it impossible.

[@AngelaSilva]

Ugh, I'm so sorry :(

[@erinbrand5782]

That is ridiculous!

[@CAGonRiv]

HA! HA! HA! It's the Chinese! What were you expecting?? Their country is well known for this kinda crap..it's unfortunate what the Apple workers are going thru =/

[@grant5391]

@@CAGonRiv Things changed when the company received large investments from AMERICAN investment firms and business consulting groups. Thanks for adding the racism tho. Not sure why you feel the need to laugh in my face. =/

[@benitadilley4073]

Thank you for your candor and professionalism. Dr. Benita Dilley

[@leslineuenschwander1356]

I love my job but have recently been frustrated with the base pay raise. I will barely miss the class number for a raise on my next contract. Thank you for standing up for teachers. I hope they listen and make changes soon.

[@AngelaSilva]

Ughh, i'm sorry. I'm hoping these conversations will help, too!

[@kholan87]

I was hired at 7.5 per class also - with a teaching certificate. I received a raise after my first year, but definitely agree with you. I really don't know why I was offered such a low starting rate, especially since I was immediately certified for Levels 2-5 (upper and lower) after my mock class. If the rate is determined by your "performance in the mock class," yet I was good enough to be certified for 4 levels off the bat, what gives?

[@AngelaSilva]

Yeah I didn't even ask for a raise, I asked them to adjust my base rate to reflect my qualifications based on what they're offering everyone else.

[@courtneyr1781]

I keep seeing everyone saying they started at 7.50 and other low rates... why does VIPKID advertise you can only start as low as $16? Is that not the case?

[@mh5619]

@@courtneyr1781 $7.50 is per class not per hour. Each class time slot is 30 minutes.

[@joeyracs7469]

Holy crap! What a company! and what honesty. And WOW. you are PRRRRRRRRRRRETTTTTTTYYYY!!! Lucky husband

[@mauraculbertson2028]

I'm on my first contract and feel that I'm learning a lot as I go, but this was very helpful! I cannot do this full-time until I have kids (I'm still a full-time teacher), so hitting the class mark for a raise is intimidating to me and does not seem fair for people doing this part-time. Thank you for your honest insight!

[@lisastacey7061]

I'm looking into VIP KID for employment. I have no teaching degree but, I have raised 3 kids so I teach daily. Lol I'm interested in this but, just need more details. Still looking into it.

[@Michelle-pn9xt]

Raising a child and being a teacher is not the same thing.

[@rebeccabelik3034]

Great video. As a VIPKID teacher, I agree with all. Thanks for an objective review

[@lynfernandez1096]

Thank you for sharing your heart, Angela. I agree with everything you said. Thank you for being a wonderful role model to other VIPKID teachers! You are my favorite! Xoxo

[@lesliesheary3886]

YES! I am new to VIPkid but these are on point. In just 2 months I have frustrations exactly like what you're talking about. Thank you for your honesty. But you're right, I do enjoy the kids and teaching so it's not worth quitting quitting.

[@jasonnerin2148]

Very well presented information. I'm currently looking into applying - I have a Bachelor of arts, from Ontario, Canada but no teaching certificate. After eyeing these virtual job postings for months, I now see that it is legit. Building a relationship seems intimidating, especially with younger children; it becomes second nature, like any new job!

[@uofmd]

When you interview do you give them your SSN and can they be trusted with it? Also, how do taxes in the USA work? Do they take it out of each paycheck or do you pay taxes at the end of the year.

[@AngelaSilva]

We are independent contractors so we fill out a W9 and are given a 1099 at the end of the year, and must pay self-employment taxes.

[@JamesTheHJProphet]

@@AngelaSilva hello from Canada... Taxes are fun in Canada--I typically do my own. I dread having to fill out self-employment tax forms, though. As Canadian, are you paying taxes to US, to Canada, or both? Any idea how that works? Also, how to go about deducting as you're paid, instead of owing a lot on tax at tax season. I have some idea, but any tips or direction is always good... This is provided I can continue through the application process. It's annoying not being able to watch your own submitted video. (I also dread paying someone all my money only to have my taxes screwed up, thank you H&R Block... or to find it was something I could figure out myself.... ) Thank you for your video. It's always good to walk in eyes open.

[@royalg6722]

@@AngelaSilva so if I work doing the vip kids I'll be paying back at the end of year? How much do you end up paying back?

[@jasonramos6461]

Great video...I have had the same exact VIPKID experince as you. I am currently holding off signing my contact, in hope something will change but I dont believe anything will. Thanks for speaking out.

[@jessicasharockman2976]

Yes...the raise requirements. I work FT at a job that has a 45-hour mandatory commitment including nights and weekends, so I cannot teach as much as others. And I’m like you on the low rate end. 👍🏻😊 Thank you for the respectful, candid, video!

[@staceyflowers5556]

Angela, you’re one of the teachers who inspired me to apply, and continue with VIPKID! I LOVE this company! It’s amazing being able to set my own schedule. I’ve even referred a few teachers. You’re title scares me! While I love most things VIPKID, there are a few things I’ve really noticed are real issues: 1. The cancellation policy. Totally with you 100%. It can always improve. With that comes stability with soft/medium cancellation consistency. It seems depending on the person who gets the ticket, depends on the outcome. I could be wrong on course. Depending on what the teachers submit, but it just seems inconsistent from a general perspective. 2. Many have complained that the system does wonky things now and again. I’ve never experienced this personally, but some say there are phantom bookings where something was booked they never opened and never do because they take their kids to school, or Sundays for religious reasons. It could be teacher accident, however just a response from the company that they are looking into would appease many who fear this might happen. 3. Changing status types after the class has been marked ‘as finished’. Some a day later, some a month later. Without even an email explaining why. At least a notification explaining a class type change and the reason for it would be great... not to mention the financial penalty that comes along with it. Again, hasn’t happened to me yet, but I’m always so paranoid. 4. Booking information. All we know is parents book us. However after I had to cancel in December, I noticed my weekly bookings went down. I didn’t get very many trials (at least not what I had been). Luckily my ‘regular’ and ‘Semi-regular’ students understood after I sent a card... but it seems the booking is just weird and maybe not so much just the parents? Maybe it is because they see the stat goes down, it would just be nice to see what the parents sees.... Thank you for being such an awesome teacher and leader for us newbies! This has been an exciting journey and I’m going to keep going! I love these these kiddos! This is by far one of the best jobs I’ve ever had. Despite the ‘growing pains’. I feel confident the company is always striving for greatness. I’m with, as I feel like a lot gets lost in translation when it comes to tickets etc. I’m so happy to learn you didn’t give up! You’re an amazing jewel to the company and a reason why many of us teachers hang in there! You’re always so positive, even when giving a bit of the negative!!! :)

[@AngelaSilva]

I'm with you, but so optimistic that things will keep getting better. I joined before soft cancellations even existed, and began recruiting before they had these big bonuses because the job was just such a blessing. They've changed to much in response to teacher's needs so I'm optimistic things will keep going in the right direction.

[@staceyflowers5556]

Angela Silva I totally agree with you! Changes take time, so I figured I’ll just be along for the ride! A really fun roller coaster ride!! :):):):)

[@Leigh-gf4rl]

Stacey Flowers yes! I canceled one time and went from a ton of trials to zero. There needs to be equality a parent can cancel and I get no pay and I cancel and get penalized. I should be able to deny patents that just book my slots just in case their regular fills and then canceling the spots they had with me. 😡

[@abdulaziz5738]

Will you be able to call me at abdul.aziz@enterprises .ae

[@Bigheartrolling]

Thank you! Navigating this online teaching has been scary because I want to make sure I’m doing my best...and not going to be taken advantage of. Your video has helped me understand what to expect more. Thanks again for your courageous honest post!

[@sashadanie]

Hi Angela, Could you explain what exactly you mean by you only open short notice classes the night before? Is this a better method to getting booked? I'm fairly new, started in December, and I always have like 3 weeks scheduled on the bookings but I have booked very few classes. Any help would be great, thank you!

[@lareschultz]

Thanks Angela. I like your honesty and comments. I also feel cheated by their pay and raise policy. I am a certified teacher with nearly 30 years of classroom experience in elementary, 17 of these in international schools teaching English to non-natove speakers, 8 years in university (music) and a master's degree. Yet my base pay was apparently calculated only on the basis of my demo lessons from which I was hired. I have heard of people with no experience or education training starting at higher--I started at $8 per class. I was curious about how you manage to teach only short notice? I tend to get just a few short notice a week, yet I do have a lot of regulars (would like more, but only been at it 4 months). Most of them like to book in advance. I have some keep requesting bookings with me on my days off and when I don't accept, they find another teacher. I would be afraid to not open slots until the day before, expecting most of them would go to another teacher for booking convenience. I was also not permitted to work with a person doing referrals during the hiring process. I tried to add one when I found out about it, and was told I already had one! Apparently some do nothing person got $100 for referring me just for posting the form I filled out online, yet offered absolutely no support. Had I had someone to ask basic questions and been make aware that the quality of my initial interviews would affect my pay scale for the rest of my time at VIPKID, more than all of my experience and education, I of course could have studied and polished my initial interview more. This could have added up to tens of thousands of dollars more over the next ten years of teaching . No other place I ever worked paid little or no attention to experience, certification, and education--they don't mean (as they said to you) a higher starting salary. I would like to try teaching all short notice if I could to make up the difference. I have 85 5 apple feedback out of 450 classes, and only one 4 apple. But no prospect for a raise until after a year, and then only 50 cents a lesson if I understand. And they almost never will book me for trials. (I am guessing that's due to my age of 60? I can see no other reason I am routinely passed over for trials since I started.) SOrry to be long winded. I am lucky as I live in Thailand, so the hours are OK, although I would rather work mornings than till 9:30 at night which is the case most days. Thank you. Larry

[@brittamenzel9375]

I don't think the parents need to know how long we have been with VIPKID. I got hired and then couldn't open slots to work for a few months, so then I was trying to get started over 100 days in with 0 classes taught and 0 feedback, and I felt like it made it really hard for me to attract parents to my profile.

[@crazyjades4228]

How did it turn out for you? I think I'm on days 9 or something with no bookings. I know that the nights will work better for me, so I wonder if I will ever get bookings if I only open night slots.

[@brittamenzel9375]

Things are going awesome now! I am limited on the slots I can open because I have to get my kids up and ready for school, but my schedule is full with the limited slots I open! 😊

[@sunnydayzie1202]

I'd love to know how you do only short notice - I'm moving to more and more short notice only -- I feel so bad for my regulars. If they Priority book you, do you just refuse it? I have been opening PPT's as short notice and they all fill. Some of my regulars are understanding when I'm putting in feedback that I will be opening slots for "same day bookings" but I still have regulars asking to priority book me during those times and I feel like I have to pick and choose. I feel as if I'm walking a really fine line between keeping regulars and trying to balance picking up a couple of more bucks a class. I am teaching most of Saturday as only short notice...but finding that I'm feeling bad for many of my students......

[@AngelaSilva]

I have had to let my regulars go, but I stay in touch on WeChat here and there. One of them still books my short notice classes:)

[@nicoledillon5155]

Angela, Thank you for your authenticity! I agree with you 100%. I was shocked they gave me a soft cancellation last week without a doctor's note. This was an improvement. I did get a $44 pay deduction :-(

[@julieboisseau-craig7472]

I had a similar problem last week. I had their app freeze up and freeze my computer making me 10 minutes late getting into class. They refuse to change the end type and took $10. I have never had a missed class in a year and a half. I was so disheartened!

[@shellyquimby7623]

Thank you for your honesty as it helped me decide whether or not to apply. Thank you!!!

[@teriphillips8839]

Angela, I met you at a VIPKID retreat in January in Nashville. You spoke about the popularity of this video, and this is the first time I have viewed it. I give you kudos for speaking out! I agree with you! You couldn't have taught that morning! The parents would have understood and it is not fair that they take money out for a Teacher No Show! I had my first No Show a month ago when I was a minute late and I noticed that I had a pay deduction too! Thanks for this video!

[@borealwild743]

Do your regular students see your short notice time slots open? How do you deal with priority bookings as a short notice teacher? Thank you so much! This idea sounds great for being more in control of my schedule, esp when I ever become sick!

[@EnglishwithJulie]

I completely agree. I was also hired in at $7.50. I got my first raise but I will never get another one because I don’t dedicate enough PPT classes. I also only open SN classes as well.

[@laurarisdallminnesotateach4914]

Angela, have you considered adding a "back up company?" I know you probably loyal to VIPKID, as am I, but I decided to add gogokid for these reasons. I had a day, like you, where I got unexpectedly very sick, used 4 of 6 cancellations, and was terrified for the rest of my contract. I decided to add another company as a sort of "insurance policy." I felt a bit like I was betraying the company that I owe my new career to. But until they change those policies, I felt like I needed to do that. What are your thoughts?

[@TravelTeach]

You are awesome. Even though I work for a different company, there are always cons. I appreciate your bravery and admire you!

[@AngelaSilva]

Thank you so much!

[@emilys548]

Oh, my goodness, I love this video so much! You are well-spoken, have well-reasoned arguments, and address what gets to me. Love the job! Don't love those things. Once I had TOTAL laryngitis. Could not be heard at all. Yeah. . . . started out the month -40 bucks. Can't teach that much PPT in the mountain time zone, so no raise. It makes the whole thing feel like a dead-end job. HOWEVER - I just focus on those kiddos and love it. If something better comes my way, I'll definitely be doing that, but for right now, hooray for visiting China online every day!

[@tiffanydoris4928]

I think one day should count as 1 cancellation. I had a horrible headache but could only bring myself to cancel my last two classes of the day.

[@laurapalmer1402]

Hi Angela just wondering if you know if you can use a chromebook to teach on vipkids. Thanks

[@wilsonfamily5videos]

Thank you for your courage in posting this! Plain and simple, the raise policy does not help VIPKid retain veteran, high quality teachers.

[@AngelaSilva]

Exactly - very well put.

[@ThatRogersFamily]

Thanks for your thoughts on this! I have really been looking into this option for our family to have more location independence and appreciate hearing about your experience.

[@wvdrummerchick]

Angela, I’ve been with vipkid for about 50 days and have gotten 2 bookings. One showed, the other one didn’t. My main concern is bookings.

[@AngelaSilva]

I'm so sorry, this time of year hits everyone hard. Chinese New Year is the largest human migration on the planet, so every teacher in every company is dealing with inconsistent bookings. March will be big, so use this time to get more certifications, vamp up your profile, and open up as many slots as you can each day through March and they will come!

[@EvelynJoy]

Beauty By Lyndsay stick to it! It will get better soon!

[@beyourise]

First, thank you for your honest review. Second, and totally unrelated... your eye make up is awesome. I would watch a tutorial of you teaching how to do it! Cheers!

[@belkisdinzey1815]

"I would watch a tutorial of you teaching how to do it!" Me too!! It's beautiful!

[@iradi82]

I agree! I paused the video when she blinked so I could see how she did it. It looks amazing. I wish she would tell us!

[@jenniferpeacock9291]

I agree with the raise requirements are frustrating me too. I am a school teacher so I do not open enough spots to qualify for the raise; however, I qualified in all the other areas. Bummer! It made me start looking at other companies to see if I can get more money in the long run. I love VIPKID due to having wonderful regular children!!!! I adore my students I have gotten to know.

[@AngelaSilva]

I hope they create various categories to qualify for a raise. Teachers who cannot work the hours but spend time learning in workshops and getting more certifications deserve recognition.

[@evelynbasile2814]

Angela, I am so glad I happened to stumble into your video that you recorded in February. It took alot of guts to be so candid, but your comments were thoughtful, fair, and direct. I am retired and used to be in college admissions at a nursing college here in the Chicago area for an online RN to BSN Program run by DeVry University. I am used to being monitored and dealing with quotas, but there is was just somethng I felt intuitively regarding VIPKID. I did not automatically proceed to finish the application I started last year and the woman who I was referred to in TX, by a friend, quit them the minute she got a local teaching offer. So, I don't think I will be moving forward with them. The hourly lure of the $18-$22 per hour to find out that it is only $7.50 per hour or half hour is very misleading and now hearing about the cancellation fees that are docked out of hours already worked with 6 cancellations being grounds for termination, along with the new raise requirements, ALL seems to me to be Red Flags screaming to be heard.....I admire your fortitude in remaining with them, but with your dedication, you really should look for another company. THe policy of having to get a doctor's note, as if you were a child, is antiquated and you were correct when you said in one of the remarks that I read below, that is is all about quantity, not quality with this company. Sad.

[@AngelaSilva]

Hey Evelyn, thanks for sharing your thoughts. I hope you watched my video through to the end - that although I was started at a lower-than-average base pay I average about $23/hour teaching with VIPKID. They make it very easy, so the $18-22/hour is not inflated or exaggerated. I've also never even come close to hitting the 6 cancellations per contract, and they've been more than accommodating when I've had emergencies. No company or job is perfect and although VIPKID has room for improvement, they've only ever shown that they rise to the occasion. Because of my position with them I work with dozens of applicants and hundreds of new teachers every day, and am closely involved with how they handle situations when they occur. VIPKID teachers are overall well taken care of, with an entire team dedicated to improving the concerns they voice. I am happily staying with VIPKID and will continue working with them toward improvements and growth, as I share their vision as well.

[@evelynbasile2814]

@@AngelaSilva I appreciate you responding so quickly and I did watch your video until the end. You are right in saying no company is perfect, and I agree. I have been looking at a review of Gogokid and see that they require ONE year of Teaching experience, which I do not have, but I would hope that some type of certification like TESOL or such would remedy this and a Bachelors degree is required as well, which I have....GogoKid's referral bonuses to recruiters is lower at $100 per vs $120, but Gogokid seems to have less restrictions to get to the level to get bonuses besides Referral fees....If I do move forward with VIPKID, I would use you as my recruiter, of course. AND I do love your eye makeup; it looks great !!

[@mimijjustlife4953]

Thank you for sharing, Angela. I'm glad you're not gone, gone!!

[@AngelaSilva]

Never, VIPKID is the best job I've ever had. And I want to help it stay the best!

[@Hanniehanter]

100% agree about the penalty. I woke up one day in August throwing up and had to cancel 6 classes because I could not sit up without dry heaving. I applied for the soft cancellation and was denied because I didn’t go to the doctor. I tried to explain that, in America we don’t run to the doctor for everything. It was just a 24 hour stomach virus. I sent a picture of the medicine I took because they asked for it and still nothing. I was so upset which did not help my stomach feel any better. I lost a lot of money. It’s not fair at all. If you have a sick day at a normal hourly job, they don’t dock your pay, you just don’t get paid for that day’s work. This needs to be fixed especially for circumstances like sickness. It’s just not right.

[@teachercathy8540]

I am looking at all of the comments here and seeing many of the VIPKID teachers who have been to China and have been on the forefront of being leaders to teachers at VIPKID. I hope that VIPKID will hear the many voices of their teachers and hear there are many ways of demonstrating excellence in addition to teaching 1200 classes a year for a raise, as well as other criteria. As probably one of the oldest teachers here (retired, but still kicking), I know these are shining stars as they have demonstrated in many ways. Please Please PLEASE recognize the talent and keep them with this great company! Some of these teachers here will still be here when I am long gone if you recognize their many diverse abilities that are more than a number!

[@AngelaSilva]

I hope they create different categories like they do for contests. Very qualified teachers spend the free time they have doing more certifications, workshops, and other continuing education to become better teachers, but can't put in more teaching hours. Other jobs reward workers for continuing education and quality measurements. Perhaps they could offer a raise for completing a certain amount of certifications independent of # of classes taught, and for having a certain % of 5-apple ratings, but then also a category for # of classes taught because those teachers deserve to be recognized, as well.

[@timefortruth7084]

I was looking into this for the summer. I have a Master's in elementary education. I am used to a steady income. This seems more like working on commission. I will look at other options. Thanks for the video.

[@AngelaSilva]

VIPKID teachers make a set rate per class they teach, and we decide how many we teach. So it's steady for most, it's just about figuring out your schedule since the time is based off the days in China, which is opposite of us. Feel free to email me with any questions or for more info - [e-mail]

[@TheScottishBurrito]

I am so glad you are bringing to light the penalty for cancellations, I recently was teaching while sick with the flu, and had to mute and shut off my camera to vomit, and my students (who are regulars) were horrified by my appearance. I wrote in the feedback that I was sick and apologized profusely for the class not being as stellar as it usually is. Most of the parents were understanding, though I would have rather not had to teach those days at all.

[@rcritchie2011]

YES! These have been exact frustrations as well. Side note: what ring light do you use?

[@juliahoffman8754]

💗negatives: I’m with you on the regular pay and deductions for the cancellation/no shows. They did the same to me when it was time to “ renew” my contract ( changed the rules) and have consistently done every year ( I’ve been a teacher for 3 years now) so my base is $8.50 and hadn’t changed in 3 years. Even after asking VIPKID multiple times, it falls on deaf ears. I tried for many soft/medium cancellations and this also falls on deaf ears- unless you can verify you were in a hospital-there is no kind consideration for sickness or family emergencies if you can’t provide substantial “evidence “ of the issue. Which treats us like employees not contractors ( so then give us health benefits!). Even with finish type changes where you do provide evidence (screen shots) they rarely change the finish type and you spend pointless hours and email going back and forth that waste everyone’s time. I did however get a couple finish types changed, yet it was on average a month after the class and took on average about 15-20 emails/open support tickets. 😤

[@brit2b]

The same things happened to me with the raise. I was promised I be up for one and then the rules changed. I hear other similar companies pay more, but I have all regulars who I love like my own kids. I could never abandon them!

[@juliahoffman8754]

Positives: Very, very, very beneficial to work from home or remotely from anywhere in the world! The students are fantastic and it is so rewarding to build friendly relationships with the students, teachers, VIPKID staff, and parents. VIPKID also has many incentive programs where you can earn extra $ throughout the year. VIPKID has continually updated their platforms for a more enriched experience for both the teachers and the students.

[@charley3249]

Vipkid terminated my contract early due to an incident that I wish was dealt with more personally or addressed at all. As well, not being able to explain or say anything to my students who were very consistent hurt. I know they were just as invested as I was and I basically was forced to ghost. VIPkid may have addressed them but I was strictly told not to mention anything with consequences pending. I really loved working for VIPkid and the students and families I met through this teaching opportunity but like you mention it’s a new company with room to grow. I hope they make the appropriate changes and find much success.

[@AwayWeRoam]

Uh yeah, I LOVE VIPKID and I've done a video or two about it on my channel, but it truly isn't perfect. I would be very frustrated if they thought I was a good enough teacher to use for advertisement but not to give a pay raise. Thankfully my situation allows me to qualify for the raise because I was also started pretty low. Thankfully it's still worth it for me either way.

[@paullarsen2998]

Looking at heading to Mexico in early June. I already work for another company but they've told me they will DROP my wage to that of the consultants in Mexico. I think the pay cut would be like 1/2! I might really want to jump over to VIP kid.

[@rashikasmith7363]

What other company did you use

[@sandrabrindley9024]

Thank you so much for your honesty. Well stated and very professional.

[@banananapped]

So, I think they changed the raise requirements because I just recently got a raise after two years at 7.50 and I know I didn't meet the qualifications. So that's hopeful! You are right on about everything though! These are huge issues!

[@saras5917]

Also.... It bothers me that I get dinged if i cancel in less than 24 hours and yet I have repeatedly seen students fall off my schedule with 12 hours or less notice and then I am just out the money for that slot because there isn't enough time for another student to book the slot. The money is really only good if you can teach back to back classes. I find it frustrating when I have gaps because a student drops a class at the last minute. I have set that time aside and I should get paid for that. Other companies are paying teachers when students cancel so VIPKID needs to step it up in this area.

[@Erica-B]

Sara S , If a student cancels within less than 24 hours you should have been paid in full for the class.

[@ashleyros2573]

Can you name other companies that do? I’m looking into all options!

[@joynealeigh7834]

What companies pay if the student cancels? I'm preparing for my VIPKid interview, and I'm starting to think I should go with a different company?

[@areina1728]

Same interest as the others, what companies offer pay for canceled classes?

[@Mary-cs1fr]

Wow. Can I just say, you are my hero? You were able to state the problems you had with VIP Kid in such a positive way. Oh, to have the poise you have. I need a second job as a teacher because I can't afford to live on my public school salary. I have been watching your videos to learn how to do VIPKid, but now, am triple sure that this is not the company for me. I will look into gogo instead. If you hear of an English program in countries on our time zone, please let me know!

[@AngelaSilva]

Mary, let me restate that VIPKID is still the best job I've ever had, and these problems don't come close to the rewards I get from teaching these sweet students and having the flexibility to make this money while having my days free. You will not find a perfect job, each one has it's own share of problems. It's just about talking together to find solutions that we grow and work through them.

[@ashleyprice3363]

I’m sure this video was not easy for you to make! Good for you for standing up for yourself! It’s absolutely insane you’re at such a low base pay. VIPKID is a great company, but needs to update some policies for sure. Their cancellation and TNS policies make me so upset.

[@AngelaSilva]

I've been bringing up the subject on Facebook and with other teachers and staff, and just wanted to get a bigger conversation going. VIPKID is the best but there are competitors. We need to stay competitive to remain the best.

[@teacherisabelle7349]

I'm so glad you brought up these issues. VIPKid is by far the best job I've ever had. Although, my biggest issues are pay raise and cancelation penalties. If I need to cancel a class, I'm already losing money by not teaching it. It hurts being hit twice for something that's out of my control. I also can't teach enough hours to meet the raise requirements. And, I have zero control over my parent feedback ratio! One month it's at 60% and the next it's at 10%. So...I'll never get a raise. I don't mind today, but what about in a few years? I may appreciate getting a raise then. I can't wait to hear how VIPKid will address these issues. Have a great day Angela!

[@AngelaSilva]

I totally agree, I am loyal to VIPKID and made this video because I want them to be the best.

[@artscreensavers]

Thank you! I agree, think it's ridiculous we get pay deductions for missing classes. I started VIPKID to hopefully be able to transition into working from home. In my second month, I missed two classes because I was miscarrying at 12 weeks. Here I am dealing with the physical aspect of this loss, still trying to even build my schedule, and then I get money I worked hard for deducted from my paycheck. That's been my only real complaint so far, but it's a big one.

[@AngelaSilva]

Oh my gosh, I am so sorry for your loss and that you went through that :;( I hope you're doing okay.

[@teachandgo456]

I agree with the raise issue 100%. I was told the same thing, then found out that I would need to teach 25 hours a week average to qualify for a raise. I've been with VIPKID for 3 years and have not gotten a raise. The only reason I don't qualify is because I don't teach the 25 hours a week.

[@petercastor]

Might want to do Alternative Certification and go work directly for a school district.

[@Freeyourmind13]

do you know the pay? in the states? for teachers? it is horrid

[@clikes1]

Yes!! All of this! I worked sick for a few days and all of my feedback was telling me to please rest. Take it easy. I want to reply, “I cannot take it easy. I can’t rest when I’m sick.” The consequences are too much. I’ve canceled classes one day and I was so sick I was crawling through my house. I couldn’t even walk. Same as you, they took some of my money. It just makes your stress level sky rocket when you’re sick. I feel like it also creates a sense of negativity between VIPKID and its teachers. And of course, the raise policy. I feel like the requirements are made unattainable and it’s really sad. I am worth more than I am being paid. Thank you for sharing this!

[@AngelaSilva]

Yes yes yes! Someone else asked something to the effect of, would VIPKID students and staff rather have sick, raspy, unenergetic regular teachers, or healthy, quality substitutes? I thought that was very valid.

[@theresaclueless]

Agree about this so much. I only work weekends. I tried one day of just SN and it didn't go well so that scares me too much to try it for every weekend. Also YES YES there should not be a fine which is HIGHER than what you would get paid for missing a class!

[@amandamerk43]

Thank you for being so transparent! I also got stuck in the lowest base pay ($7.50.) I actually DO have a degree and teaching certificate. I felt so offended when they offered me that, but I was also so desperate to have this awesome, flexible job working from home....I didn't even argue or try to get a higher pay rate. I also was hired just before they changed the raise requirements, so I have been stuck at that pay rate. I have wanted to do short notice, but am SO nervous that I won't get booked. I do not have many followers. I have over 1200 classes, but only taught 200 students. I have been teaching regulars since about 2 months in, so I don't have many followers. What do you suggest I do to get more followers? Should I just make the jump and switch to short notice only?

[@marksesl]

What ever you do, DO NOT APPLY TO Magic Ears. They engage in age prejudice. I did a great job giving my 8-minute interview, which I prepared hours for. They had encouraged me saying I would be a perfect fit and could probably get a secondary potion as in interviewer. For the interview, I had several fun props: a ball to toss, a stuffed dolphin, a spy glass, and I even wore a cap with the inflatable ears. I was very playful and energetic for the entire 8 minutes. The interviewer told me the next step would be the trial 25-minute class, where I would be taught how to use the platform better, and suggested that I get a headset. So, I expected to be hired. Oh, but the next day I was told I didn't pass. IMPOSSIBLE. I practiced their demo video over and over and did virtually all the same things. I am American with two Master's degrees and over 20 years of experience teaching ESL. But, I'm 70 -- That's the problem.

[@esbam2002]

Crap, Vietnam learning centers hire at a higher pay rate and I thought they were the cheapest. In 08 when I first started teaching I was the same as you. No teaching background and no TESOL. Cleverlearn, in Ho Chi Minh City, hired me at $13 an hour until I got my TESOL then bumped me up to $15 an hour. On topic as one that is still trying to put together my demo video, most likely over thinking the adjustments from 12 years in classroom teaching with kids, TOEIC/TOFEL/IETLS students and University level to now online. Your videos are a help.

[@gailmariage5318]

I started at the same rate as you with over 20 years of part-time teaching experience and a teaching degree.

[@Leigh-gf4rl]

A MAJOR con in addition to the ones mentioned below and yours is pay but in a different realm. For me I have very low bookings due to reasons I won’t go into here. BUT when I was hired I was told about base pay and $1 for being in time and $1 if I teach for than a certain number of classes per class. HOWEVER I get mmm 3-5 bookings a week so the pay I was told is completely different from what I am getting. LOW BOOKINGS is a huge problem for many many many teachers. As well as unpredictable money. $1000 one month and $100 the next. Getting worse by the flood of new teachers being on boarded daily. Unless the VIPKID current teachers have full spots they should not being hiring wildly excessive amounts. Are the prepping to expand? Maybe maybe not BUT those teachers then need to be on boarded for future but not in the pool to teach. Low bookings a huge huge CON because I came here to make money. I love you for this bold video ( I say bold because the community of teachers is wild with “life’s perfect at VIPKID use my referral” ) but a major if not the biggest con was missed.

[@djji15dj]

So between us ppl of color don't get booked huh??

[@Leigh-gf4rl]

J D there’s much discrimination when parents pick a teacher based on a picture and a poorly translated ‘about me’. I’m sure black people aren’t the only ones, older, those with weight issues, men have all reported low bookings. Of course in each category there’s an exception but personally and advice to others would be to avoid companies where parents choose you. Can lead to much age, race, gender, and body/beauty discrimination.

[@djji15dj]

Thank you I'll see how it goes. I just started

[@English-Master-Eli-Azulay]

Angela you rock! sensitive and professional!

[@bonnieapostol9501]

Most days my classes start at 2:30 AM haha but it's my only job so I try to go back to sleep when I am done around 6-6:30 AM. If I can't go back to sleep I try to nap later. I don't work on Sundays. I love that we can teach anywhere too!

[@lisastacey7061]

Is the pay good enough to have this as your only income? Would I have to supplement my income? Work a PT job?

[@bonnieapostol9501]

@@lisastacey7061 for me, it's not enough money for that. But I currently don't need a full time job. I'd definitely suggest having 2 jobs and use vip as a side job, especially when first starting out.

[@mollyliles7230]

I agree with what you are saying. I am a teacher with the company. I feel like a lot of stuff is baptism by fire for lack of a better term. There are so many things I didn’t/still don’t know. It would have been smart for me to get a mentor, but I didn’t realize I truly needed one until I got hired. One incident that made me upset was once when I had back to back bookings. The student before did a UG assessment. She showed up about 5 minutes late and was struggling with the material. I went over my time. I didn’t know how to contact anyone to let the other student know (it has since changed and is easier to contact the fireman.). I tried to show up like 5 minutes and 30 seconds to the next class and couldn’t get in because they marked me as a no show. They took away pay from me :(. I was honestly up and had every intention of teaching the next student. I also think they need to do a paid online training to tell us who to contact/how to contact people, how to navigate the website, differences with using the phone versus a computer, etc. I’ve watched a lot of your videos in order to learn about what I need to do. Thanks for your pragmatism.

[@LUVJONZ99]

My contract with them ends in May 2019. I am ready to move on. The training however was a good introduction to me for online training.

[@LUVJONZ99]

I have moved on there are better companies out there.......

[@joannabrowning1306]

@@LUVJONZ99 I'm listening!

[@LoriMehler]

@@LUVJONZ99 Can you share?

[@patriciag.parker437]

What about the time difference with the East Coast? What typical morning hours do you teach? Are evening hours a viable option for East coasters?

[@brittanyklous7608]

I'm on the East Coast as well and am in the final step for hire. What times are your typical classes? Thanks for this helpful video!

[@katrynamcintyre5687]

April 4, 2019: Thanks Angela....I appreciated your video. Have my interview in a couple of days! Kate