Honest Review: Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 is not Amazing

[@oski4022]

if harry actually died, apart from making the ending feel much more better, justifying more peter's reason to retire, it would also make norman's sudden hatred for spider-man also much more justified, since he wanted spidey to save him but couldn't.

[@102-d7i]

I can honestly see them doing ultimate goblin for the 3rd game and that includes Norman killing Harry

[@Morfe02]

Yeah and why he is in coma Antivenom can't heal him ?

[@lm_slayer1]

Fucking hell you people just lack any form of comprehensive skills. Dude is 24, he's not "retiring", that would directly go against "with great power comes great responsibility", he's simply taking a break to get his life in check, the game EXPLICITLY states this. As for harry dying, I fully agree, norman's current motivation is pretty stupid

[@He-Man00]

Yeah Honestly I see NO good reason for him to survive. They had a pretty emotional goodbye and it would make narrative sense. There's a lot of those moments in the game

[@TheMetalOverlord]

They didn't kill Harry because they need him for the Venom spin-off game.

[@Jodyjoe1234]

My biggest gripe is the way that Peters secret identity is completely blown but no one says anything the bs always happening at aunt mays house is crazy 😂

[@JTBROS69]

i agree

[@Paulinho_66]

That was ridiculously

[@jeggsonvohees2201]

At least with Miles it makes more sense, since his entire neighborhood has agreed to keep his identity a secret.

[@JAYDOG1337A]

I just hate how nerfed Peter was in gameplay, you need to parry certain enemies because they can just block the attacks from a guy with fucking super strength, and the gadgets are shit compared to the first game, and they took away ALL the suit powers. Cutscene Peter was incompetent as fuck, his spider-sense just took a fucking holiday. Oh and a single knife wound killed him, despite it being said in the first game that he was once almost gutted by Fisk with a fucking SWORD and still lived.

[@Shahriyararin63]

Peter wasn't nerfed. People these days like to overreact to everything. Insomniac's version of Spider Man is always tough and he has 10 years of experience. He beated most villains like Electro, Vulture, Shocker, Scorpion, etc countless times. But yet along the way he was beaten countless times too as shown in the first one. Whatever we see in Marvel's Spider Man 2 for Peter is the point. Insomniac is showing us the struggling side if Peter, something we barely seen. But both Peter and Miles have their fair share of defeats from villains. Although yes Miles had shined in this game but Insomniac is just trying to show that Peter can always call Miles in case if he needs him. Plus Peter was op with the black symbiote and anti Venom symbiote and he still managed to make a comeback without it. Y'all expect Peter In the game to not get a single hit. If Peter was too op then it wouldn't be impactful. In the game he did beat Kraven and almost kills him and Miles had to step in. He beaten Lizard, and Venom too.

[@JAYDOG1337A]

@@Shahriyararin63 Peter took nothing but Ls before he got the symbiote suit.

[@zenk6467]

@@Shahriyararin63 Peter in the story do something, only after he took symbiote suit.

[@Shahriyararin63]

@@JAYDOG1337A well that's the point. The goal is to make Kraven threatening and menacing in a way where Kraven is not who Peter think is he is. He needs to learn what is he going up against. He can't just beat him easily that wouldn't make it impactful. In the comics, Peter was beaten by Kraven too like he was shot by a rifle in Kraven's Last Hunt comic.

[@Owen-sx4jj]

​@@Shahriyararin63they didn't have to make him incompet

[@Josh-ez5hf]

From the sounds of it Spider-Man 3 did the miles revenge arc better. Peter is given flaws when seeking revenge like Peter "killing" Sandman and being okay with that and after nearly ruining his life realized that giving into his hatred and anger led him down a bad path

[@Paulinho_66]

Miles was not under the influence of the symbiote Peter was Although on the game peter should had killed kraven to give some weight on his arc.. we didn’t had any post black suit arc at all and peter didn’t suffer any consequences for his actions because everyone got venomized the next day so everyone just forgives him

[@43quin]

Norman's sudden grudge against Spider-Man irked me as well, and it's a reaction that would have made more sense if Spider-Man had actually failed to get Harry out of the suit/Harry had died during the fight. If an entire army of his own goons, Kraven's goons and Kraven himself could not stop Harry then what exactly was he expecting Spider-Man to do to save him? A fight was inevitable and it's like he was expecting Harry to be just fine if he survived, despite being heavily corrupted and controlled by Venom on top of being sick and dying. It boggles the mind, I'm not sure what he was expecting to see and I can't believe that's how his vendetta against Spider-Man starts, it's such a weak "motive"

[@HardHatDagu]

the fact norman has faced no backlash when he was basically simon krieger from miles game made no sense to me the fact hes free is crazy to me.

[@TwanBankz]

@@HardHatDagumiles game was terrible i dont see they hype & its almost as bad as s2 , both games were half assed & the stories were way to short

[@TwanBankz]

makes it worse that miles game at 1 point was $70 😂😂😂😂

[@luafamily]

@@TwanBankzMiles morales has a short story, spider man 2 is 9 hours of story, so it’s not even close to short.

[@AbrahamJimenezBK2O1]

Ngl I wish there was more non adjacent spider man marvel villains characters in the side quests, like taskmaster.

[@joshski21]

task master was in the first game?

[@kalatheballa]

​@@joshski21 ...

[@disfunctionalrobot]

This might be my favorite Spiderman 2 review, mostly because you’re expressing the same issues with the game’s story that I’ve been thinking about but haven’t seen addressed in other reviews.

[@SimplyNostalgic99]

I felt like spider -man 2 should have been like Arkham City in terms of world building and characters

[@bobbywilliams4438]

Yes

[@doomguydemonkiller]

Well it wasn’t

[@Shahriyararin63]

​@@doomguydemonkilleryes it is because it's a sequel better than the original. The only thing that the first one got that's better is story

[@0xycon]

​@@Shahriyararin63Everything besides web slinging is a downgrade from the first game. There's less options for both combat and stealth which makes the gameplay extremely repetitive

[@Shahriyararin63]

@@0xycon you keep your mouth shut! Story is the only thing that the first one got that's better. The side missions are better because they are less repetitive and less filler unlike the first one. The first one has unnecessary filler missions and are more repetitive. More content doesn't mean better because quality over quantity. The side missions like Mysterio, Wraith, Howard and Grandpa side missions are all better then the side missions from the first game. It's a huge improvement from its predecessors like combat, traversal, boss fights and MJ segments. Combat is more improved because it has depth like it has more combat varieties like spider arm abilities, symbiote abilities and Miles' bio electric abilities. It also has parry feature which adds depth to the combat. And there is rage mode. You don't just use square button, you also use R1 and L1 buttons too.

[@Sagegabs]

I do believe that we should've seen Peter get corrupted like... Slowly. I think that in gsme time he had the alien for like 2 o 3 days and he had already lost control. Also what's up with Harry, he had the symbiote for like 2 years and started dying in the 2 o 3 days Peter had it. This game needed much more time. And less MJ gameplay.

[@akai3974]

Literally and the first character u play as in the final mission is Mj like we didn’t want that and before the last venon boss we should have gotten Peter and miles fighting venom around the city

[@Sagegabs]

​@@akai3974 Lol yeah, Miles could've replaced MJ in all her sections giving him more purpose in the main story.

[@akai3974]

@@Sagegabs there’s like 2 Mj missions I like in this games and 2 has a bit which I don’t like

[@Just_a_ghost713]

Miles rant not that i hate him but i know what modern day spider man writers are trying to do. They should've reworked miles miles placement in the story as a side character because theres literally no point in miles being playable, like chasing black cat as miles was pointless, Harlem music instruments was pointless, Peter boss fight could've been switched to Peter fighting miles and miles being in the final boss fight was stupid. These modern day spider man writers need to understand the story of spider man is Peter Parker, it revolves around him, not only that but adapting the black suit spider man storyline is a slow burn that shows the characters reaction to Peter's downfall including the player reaction to Peter's transformation. So why is miles given the resources and development when the black suit story is more important.

[@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099]

Honestly Miles being more of a side character would have made the story better. We could have gotten more time with Peter and Harry, or the black suit arc which was rushed

[@DarthPhazon]

As sort of an FYI, the symbiote wings aren't new - they're part of Venom's new skillset following the King in Black story arc that took place in the comics, which... Act 3 basically rips off totally, but with Venom as the main villain.

[@JC_Chance]

I figured they ripped it straight out of a newer comic, at least it looked cool here

[@BlankEmporium]

They ripped off King in Black so bad they couldn't even credit Donny Cates for it.

[@nikkishumway8346]

As someone who hated the MJ missions in the first game and who hates stealth in most games I was glad that they gave MJ a gun because it gave me something to do in these sections besides sneaking around and hoping I don’t mess up the timing of when I move.

[@srirach7543]

I agree with everything bro said especially the combat and I have no idea why they got rid of the gadget wheel and only allowing us to have only those few gadgets what a waste of a button I would rather have that then the parry 100%. Because remember in the earlier games a perfect dodge WAS the parry then it would automatically web up the enemy, also I hated how they made us use skill points on abilities we already unlocked in the previous games that shii made no sense if you can’t have the creativity to give us different skills to select then by all means just give us less don’t fill us with options we already worked to unlock previous

[@somusamba6118]

This game should be called "Miles and MJ are better than Peter 2"

[@rjmiggins5296]

Right with them back to back & Peter on all bout to get that MJ D 🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾

[@TrueSpider-Man]

You know the game is trash when the main character is written to be useless and act as a dartboard for disrespect. Seriously, Peter got absolutely nerfed and written to be a joke while Miles and MJ just get ridiculously buffed with no consequences.

[@Thedarkknight27474]

The game is not trash and it’s a video game deal with it Peter wasn’t nerfed and he wasn’t written to be a joke that’s a flat out lie and miles has more powers than Peter

[@mouse7965]

@@Thedarkknight27474 In 2018 peter 1v2's some sinister six members and fights 5 of them at the same time for a few minutes. In this game he gets his ass beaten in literally every fight without the symbiote.

[@aaronbood1999]

​@@Thedarkknight27474Blame sweet baby

[@Peter7DA]

@@Thedarkknight27474while I won’t say that the game is complete trash, it’s definitely a downgrade from the first game no doubt. Peter is supposed to be the main character of this story and it’s like they took their attention off of him to put MJ and Miles in the spotlight. Which in my opinion is bad.

[@Thedarkknight27474]

@@Peter7DA it’s not a downgrade and miles gets captured like in the middle part of the game

[@TThomas-jj5ef]

This same Spider-Man went through wars in the first game even fighting the sinister 6 2v1. All with no help. Him struggling makes no sense especially when he already fought most villains in the game. Only new ones were Kraven and Venom.

[@FatPandaCries]

Its sad as fuck dude. All that to push more woke agenda

[@SodaRedpop]

this is fair because i have completely tore this game to fucking shreds, i have found SO MANY glitches lmao it’s so funny

[@GiovanniAlckmimRusso]

There was potential to make something better. Mary Jane should've been more than just a cheap annoying discount Lois Lane. Miles should've been more in the story and have some struggles rather than barely be in it while being pushed as the Superior Spiderman. Harry should've stayed more as Agent Venom and when he becomes Venom it should've been in another way without rehashing Web of Shadows. As for Peter, he should be as competent as he was in the first game and not nerfed guy who can't handle the job, which is another thing that bothered me. He has been Spider-Man for over a decade and still can't have a balance between his life as Peter Parker and as Spiderman, but fucking Miles is able to have this balance

[@Shahriyararin63]

The first 2 acts were perfect, it's just the third act that was a bit rushed. It could have been at least an additional 2-5 hours long. I think Venom wasn't fleshed out enough because the team wanted more Venom in the future so they wanted to save more Venom in his spin off game. Btw, according to leaks following the hack in Insomniac, Venom spin off game is coming in 2025. Here's to hoping he will be expanded in his own spin off game. At least the good outweighs the bad

[@GiovanniAlckmimRusso]

@@Shahriyararin63 the games does seem fun to play, but the story is still disappointing. I heard about that leak. Is there any information on who is gonna be Venom?

[@Shahriyararin63]

@@GiovanniAlckmimRusso story is not really disappointing because the first 2 acts were perfect, it's just the third act that was rushed. It has flaws but the good outweighs the bad. To be fair, every games have flaws. As for the Venom spin off game leak, it doesn't say who will be Venom in it. It just says it's coming in 2025

[@GiovanniAlckmimRusso]

@@Shahriyararin63 not really. They mishandled the characters, especially Peter, and the story was rushed. Regarding Venom, let's hope they do something great with it.

[@Shahriyararin63]

@@GiovanniAlckmimRusso not really because only the third act was rushed and no the characters are nicely handled. Peter and Miles character arc are amazing especially the redemption arc of Mr Negative.

[@Opgod74]

How does he die from A stab from Kraven but went through so much in the first game and Getting jumped like bro what

[@0xycon]

they nerfed bro so hard to get the symbiote on him

[@googguy7773]

​@@0xyconfr but it still doesn't make sense. Could have been done better

[@rajamohanareddygayam5309]

It was a poisoned knife. And he was stabbed in a vital spot.

[@Opgod74]

@@rajamohanareddygayam5309 bro tanked scorpion Just fine

[@Opgod74]

@@rajamohanareddygayam5309 no it wasn’t Knife was normal get off kraven dick And accept They nerf Spider-Man Just for him to get it

[@featherguardian6023]

7 out of 10, the Gameplay is Great, Each Spider-Men brings something Unique, the Villains look Good, and the Graphics look Amazing, I just think that if they delay the Game for Another Year and Fix the Story and the 3rd Half, it could have been Better but if Feels Underrated because something felt missing and now a Year Later and no DLC Expansion, I guess we’ll never Know.

[@kaison12205]

To point out your thing with assists it’s actually based on the point of the story you’re in So before Pete gets the black suit but after rescuing tombstone (which is really only a couple missions) either Spider-Man can run into agent venom. Same thing with wraith before you’ve activated her quest she’ll never appear but after a mission or two she’ll be able to be run into til you beat the quest. And with Peter. He will not randomly appear to assist miles while he has the black suit on. And at other story points where him and Peter can’t cross paths. Ultimately who teams up with you has pretty specific context and activation requirements so it isn’t that random. You were maybe playing as miles predominantly during times when you missed the opportunity for these characters to be likely to appear. Or you just got unlucky

[@JC_Chance]

Thanks for clearing that up. My point was that I was able to see everyone as Peter, but got nobody as Miles. So the problem is likely I just didn't do enough random crimes as him

[@kingkocoa4467]

Nah, I believe there was a bug where Peter just didn’t show up. On my 2nd playthrough I played as Miles far more than Peter and not once did he ever show up when he didn’t have the Symbiote. Plenty of other people pointed this out during the first month of launch. Not sure if it’s fixed now, but it was definitely an issue.

[@the_supern0va238]

I've been able to run into Wraith after beating the entire Flame storyline as both Miles and Peter, weirdly enough.

[@coheirofchrist]

Fam…Peter literally never shows up to help Miles in crimes. Ever

[@LightningCayo]

I can relate to your love of Spider-Man 3 and the symbiote. I’m a huge fan of it too. And while this game has flaws from what I’ve seen, I’m still down to try the game myself. And Black Suit Spider-Man channels the actor’s Sasuke edginess from Naruto so much, I love it.

[@Shahriyararin63]

Good outweighs the bad. Although every games have flaws to be honest

[@lm_slayer1]

​@@Shahriyararin63this. I really don't care what anyone says regarding the game, it has the greatest traversal system of any game hands down

[@Marshbenjaminmallow]

I hope you know that guy copies and paste his comments all the time​@@lm_slayer1

[@TheAlphazoneYT]

I’ll stand by this, the game is way better if you never upgrade your damage or health bar & play on the hardest difficulty. (Yes, I did this on my first play through because I was so hyped to play the story that I skipped most of the side missions & didn’t realize upgrading suit tech was a thug until the final act) Doing this makes the parry mechanic much more valuable in boss battles & makes them far more rewarding. It also means potential for much longer combos in regular enemy encounters.

[@IStanAmerica]

I think the reason Peter had a much harder time ripping the symbiote off as opposed to MJ is mainly due to him still grieving over Aunt May's death, plus the stress of being a good enough hero overall. MJ doesn't have those stakes to worry about, and she has Peter to quickly snap her back to her senses before the symbiote can attach itself further into her mind. Don't get me wrong, I do wish that MJ could've kept it longer. I think instead of her helping out Miles and Peter at the end, it would've been cooler if it was Miles and Peter vs. Harry and Scream. It would've upped the stakes substantially for Peter.

[@ihatehearts]

does anyone else find it weird how in almost every modern spiderman story they always try to do this build up arc where norman osborn becomes evil, instead of just having him already be the green goblin from the start? i mean, isn’t this spiderman like 8 years into his superhero career? why do they need to dance around norman becoming the green goblin for the 50th time?

[@TheEnvixity.]

Because its fun. As someone with VERY minor experience in game design and writing, I live for dropping random hints at what's going to happen.

[@cynical_chai8922]

23:00 THANK YOU ! organic webs r just built different

[@doomguydemonkiller]

Agreed

[@Samir56772]

I can agree with you about how Peter should’ve had the black suit for longer

[@omeganeox]

Also what i like about harry is that they really do feel like best friends and it makes it actually sad when peter shuts him down

[@retrox2776]

Miles is known for his infamous useless backflips but this is something else XD 14:00

[@rajamohanareddygayam5309]

37:40 I hate how people misunderstood this ending. He’s taking a break. He wants to finally get a stable career and be able to fulfill his great responsibilities by his new job.

[@talizorah6898]

Late comment, but no one acknowledges the significant break he already took in Mile's game. Doing it twice is definitely a red flag for most people you see fearing true retirement. It's not the first time he's poofed for a long period of time. Miles will have had 2 solo games, Peter just barely had 1 if you delete MJ missions.

[@rajamohanareddygayam5309]

@@talizorah6898 with all due respect, I don’t think a week or two is very significant of a break for Spider-Man. He needs an actual break. He needs to rebuild his personal life, his career, and his relationships. He has lost a lot too. He needs a mental break too. Bro’s literally near depression in the entire game (as shown in the scene where miles is inside Peter’s head). Those two weeks in Miles Morales was just him taking photo’s for MJ in a Warzone. Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 story was also majority of the time Peter. He’s gonna sort out his life with this actual break, and he’s gonna come back like a champ.

[@alatusedits]

​@@rajamohanareddygayam5309it was executed poorly regardless

[@Paulinho_66]

I think those podcasts about black suit spiderman were leftovers of some early build where the game would be bigger. Maybe symbiote arc would be bigger but sony rushed insomniac and they cut some missions. There are 31 main missions for the game The first act of the game gets 15 missions. You get the symbiote on mission 15 and lose it on mission 22. Then just 7 missions for third act. They did dirty to that act If the game was going to be so short just give peter the symbiote from first mission

[@tarantula_xing]

Peter didn't retire, Miles said "Go be Peter Parker for a while" which doesn't mean he's giving it up for good. He's simply taking a break for a little bit, because now Miles is finally able to handle things on his own. It could go the same way if Miles needed a break. But no, Peter is definitely not retiring.

[@ExploderMaster18]

You can bet big money, he will die or will be deleted from spiderman 3, or we will see a female a spiderman

[@talizorah6898]

​@ExploderMaster18 He already took a break in the miles game for like 2 weeks or so. Bit weird no one acknowledges he's already been on a significant hiatus. This is more akin to truly retiring his character being done twice.

[@sketchpen777]

Ngl this game story beats is basically the first game all over again

[@Omen_Rocks123]

Biggest disappointment was the combat idk why but especially with the black suit it feels the exact same to play as the red suit when it’s supposed to be a change from peters normal fighting style and supposed to be more aggressive and deadly like wos and SD but insomniac they only gave it 4 limited moves and a shitty rage mode each character should be distinct and different from 1 another and feel different even with miles he just plays exactly like Peter but with lightning it’s just proving how lazy insomniac is when they can do better but refuse too for some reason

[@Owen-sx4jj]

Coz they know fools will still defend it. You can tell they didn't pour their hearts into this game like they did the first. You are right, the gameplay was meh. Marginal improvements. It's 2023 and we still can't web swing with two webs or are forced to wall run if Peter even smells a wall next to him. We need more options for traversal like older games gave us. Web wings won't win game of the yr.its easy. They should try and add more Spidey like moves but that requires work and creativity. Same things applies to combat, flashy moves ain't gonna sway me from the fact that they used as a crutch to not actually give Spidey more combat moves.

[@Shahriyararin63]

​​​@@Owen-sx4jjno because Insomniac out their hearts and souls into it. They know how to make a good game. Sure it has flaws but the good outweighs the bad. Even the first one has flaws. Insomniac never disappoints. Their track record is amazing and they never made a bad game. All of their games are critically acclaimed and sold plenty of copies. Insomniac is confident and passionate about Spider Man 2. They really meant it when they said Marvel's Spider Man 2 is the best game they have made before it launched. It paid off big time as it got 91 on Metacritic while the first one got 87. That 91 on Metacritic making it the highest Metacritic score of any Marvel game. And it sold plenty of copies of well. It's a huge improvement from its predecessors like combat, traversal, boss fights and MJ segments. Combat is more improved because it has depth like it has more combat varieties like spider arm abilities, symbiote abilities and Miles' bio electric abilities. It also has parry feature which adds depth to the combat. And there is rage mode. You don't just use square button, you also use R1 and L1 buttons too. So the gameplay was awesome and better then meh

[@Omen_Rocks123]

@@Shahriyararin63 keep yapping and spiderman 2 is the best game they’ve made bruh it don’t even come close to any of the ratchet and clank games or the spyro games lol they feel and are more passionate and critics don’t mean shit they don’t know how to review anything and all they did was make small improvements stop d riding and over exaggerating play more games kid looks like you need to widen you’re horizon to video games other than spiderman

[@Shahriyararin63]

@@Omen_Rocks123 critics knows how to review and they are spot on. Marvel's Spider Man 2 beated all the Rachet and Clank games with 91 on Metacritic and that's Insomniac highest Metacritic score of any of their games. So that determines that it is Insominac's best game. They made most improvements. The first game has flaws too. Quit acting like the first game has 0 criticisms. The majority loved it. Meanwhile, you're in the minority so that means you lose. Not only it's well received from critics and fans but also sold plenty of copies. And because of how amazing it is and everyone loved it, it builds on the hype for future of Insomniac games like Wolverine and Marvel's Spider Man 3.

[@Omen_Rocks123]

@@Shahriyararin63 first of all critics don’t know how to review or play game we forgetting how a critic couldn’t even get past the tutorial in cuphead and how critics praised the living shit out of the last of us 2 and every cod game giving it 9s when it’s the same thing over and over so no critics scores don’t mean anything cause they don’t know how to review and play and it doesn’t mean it’s insomniacs best game cause it has lots of flaws heck ratchet and clank rift apart clears tf out of spiderman 2 cause everything it gives us is original and they changed a lot but spiderman 2 barely changes anything and it’s shown to be the more controversial disappointing game while ratchet and clank has hyped up people more for the next title since it was a great revive to the franchise and when did I say I like the first game I think that’s mid asf aswell only good thing is the story the gameplay is mid and repetitive but the story and characters are way better and spiderman 2 hasn’t been well revived at all people have been clowning on it so much to the point it’s a joke like we forgetting the gay side mission mj being a bitch 24/7 and the female developer inserting her face as MJ everyone has trashed on the game idk what world you’re living in actually play more games cause imagine calling Spiderman 2 perfect when it does so much bad shit

[@HardHatDagu]

i feel like li’s redemption would have been better if he died after saving peters life,dude murdered miles dad and countless other innocent people just cause he hated osborn. Him bein able to walk away when scorpion and all the other villains got killed off really bothered me

[@oneautumnleaf2622]

gotta love the spiderman ps2 games ost in the background.

[@ewaldus]

Peters story is pretty decent, I very much enjoyed it for the most part. Miles´ story is horrible.., Mary Jane parts were annoying and the deaf girls game-play.... WTH was that...? The two moments mentioned here were really nice. The relationship between Pete and Harry was also pretty great. Wraith.... The dumbest character ever unless she has super powers I didnt notice.. Mary Jane is mostly fine but gets pretty annoying by the end of it..

[@madsisveryreal]

Almost like it was an optional cute little side quest that further added to Haileys character 😮

[@reveriesremedy]

@@madsisveryrealhailey’s a okay character but nobody is really invested in her, so to play as her is just boring and if you want to 100% your forced to complete her mission anyway and instead of that there could be a more interesting side mission that maybe brings in other marvel characters that people want to see

[@madsisveryreal]

@@reveriesremedy You gotta be helle petty to hate on one small side mission that poses no harm lmao. Besides, weren't the Flame, Chameleon and Mysterio missions enough? Or do you guys just need fan service every two seconds? How are you gonna get invested in a character if they don't do anything to begin with? The mission served it's purpose and made me appreciate Hailey more. Sometimes you need a break from brainrot action scenes lmao

[@bll1]

@@madsisveryrealyou can’t even do Mysterio missions as peter

[@madsisveryreal]

@@bll1 Ok? That's why Miles is there lmao? What's the issue? Miles already has barely anything to do why take more away from him? 😭

[@DoritoGOD2811]

why do you pronounce symbiote like that

[@darrengladwell]

It's ai dictation I think

[@jamiebradley7922]

You're right, it's not amazing, it's a masterpiece! P.S. To everyone who said Peter was retiring, he's *not,* he wanted a break so he could rebuild Emily-May.

[@cristiangomez4537]

I was so hype for this game, but i think the Miles Game hurt this because part 2 was way too much of the same thing. They barely added anything and took somethings away. For example, the gadgets. The problem was that as soon as the game started, it felt like i had played it before. So i wasnt hype to come back.

[@jlopez240gaming7]

Problem is, the game already made a massive load of money. So who knows if they listen to fan feedback about story beats or if they even care. Cause they need new writers for spider-man 3.

[@baki484]

Given the "if MJ is a little OP I don't give a sh*t" statement she'll be playable again and they will triple down for the Spiderman 3. They seem very adamant on keeping the writers too as well as the SBI consulting firm (who they fully support) as shown with the upcoming Wolverine.

[@dragonman969]

I think they use Doc Conners because they can’t/don’t use Mr. Fantastic he’s who Peter went to in the comics. (He’s fairly close to the Fantastic Four in the comics)

[@raw5889]

I think the traversal is over rated too. All you have to do is hold down the trigger.

[@DanialDEcool]

Yeah, all you have to do. Plus, you’ll go ridiculously slow

[@danielmontero8200]

Saying the traversal is overrated is a crazy statement. There's more to it than holding the trigger.

[@HoplasFanboi]

Let's b real peter in Spiderman 1 absolutely looked like the tobey Maguire era Harry

[@retrobrian1]

The organic web take was hilarious. Even though I have no stake in the matter

[@jeggsonvohees2201]

Removing the symbiote is just as much about willpower and emotional strength as it is physical, so I think the writers want us to think MJ is much stronger than Peter in those regards, hence why she can easily remove the suit.

[@Zack-hd3uh]

The mary jane missions were just absurd

[@Infinity-has]

The game takes place 1year after the 1st so it's no surprise that Rio and Co would have Pete's contact details tbh

[@verspin]

The video just started and I already I agree with you on the pointing meme thing. I'm sooo tired of that joke. It was alright in ITSV but since then it happened 3 more times. Am I suppose to laugh harder each time or what?

[@SuperT0MaT0]

The background music being from the 2000 movie games sent me down memory lane

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

24:12😂😂😂 the Bully OST for Bully Lowenthal

[@foinye]

That's why the name is MARVEL's spider-man 2, not AMAZING spider-man 2

[@Cameronator256]

Shut up

[@the_wolf_bear1327]

I forgot how much I love the theme from the playstation 2 spider man game thanks

[@beans8269]

This channel is great deserves more subscribers

[@Matt-uc8dd]

Never let that lady scan her face into anything ever again

[@PizzaTimeGuy]

5:32 That's weird. Normally if you play as Miles you get help from Wraith or Harry(in the Symbiote suit). But unfortunately, It is treu that Peter isn't there when you fight crime as Miles.

[@omeganeox]

Anyone else also think theres way too many hunters? Like your really tryna tell me theres like a few thousand hunters running around working for kraven??

[@samuelanderson1862]

venom should have been used like nemesis from resident evil stalking both Peter and miles around new york

[@killakame-3434]

The Most Honest Video on the Internet... Thank You. I despise everyone who keeps comparing it to Marvel Spider-Man 2018.. That Game Was Other Worldly... Even the Graphics and Characters Look Cartoony in 2.

[@PizzaTimeGuy]

33:53 You do know that the longer someone wears the symbiote, the harder it is to get it of, right? It's the same thing with the Raimi film. The game literally established that the symbiote slowly takes over peter, that it even has a peace of the Symbiote still inside of him. Like that's why his suit changed, That's why Peter slowly turns into a prick. MJ had the symbiote for a very very short time, Maybe like 5 to 10 minutes or so. Peter had the suit for days. So of course it's easier to get it of. Cause the symbiote didn't completely take MJ over yet.

[@MODZGAMINGYT]

MJ missions were literally more painful to experience than a 8 hour back tattoo 🤨

[@rajamohanareddygayam5309]

Lol you should see the first game’s MJ missions

[@patrickacosta7031]

And they were a complete waste of time. They gave her the stupidest kind of plot armor. She was acting too much like Lois Lane

[@honesthughie]

That’s my line!

[@dragonman969]

By the way I haven’t played but I do know the line launcher device can be used to launch your self

[@YaoiKillerProduction]

I just finished this game now and thank you for summing up my entire feelings towards this game. I love the bombastic, Hollywood-esque, Michael Bay style action in this sequel compared to the first and Miles' game, but man the writing is just so poorly done. The side quests are also very immersion breaking because of so many modern day references and it feels like the game wanted to lecture you about it. And the godawful pedestrians and NPCs. I'm Asian, but I'm pretty sure that New York should pretty much have more white people than Asians and African Americans. And it's funny how you get to see white people from the thug enemies more than the rest of the NPC population. Edit: You forgot to include Silk's reveal in the post credit cutscene, so yeah just adding that in.

[@kaison12205]

Eh I didn’t like the gadget wheel some of the gadgets were cool or fun but ultimately felt pointless. I’ll say until the dlc of sm1 I did not find the combat all too hard Now I don’t love the gadgets in sm2 either. I did like the idea of integrating certain gadgets as abilities spidey innately has like impact webbing. And the abilities are cool even if no matter which moveset venom, robot arms or symbiote you get essentially all the same moves

[@killakame-3434]

You are Spitting Facts... Love the Honesty... Keep it Up

[@marcusclark1339]

18:20 its definitely wokeness and agenda making the women more ugly, peter can't interact with Black Cat, Miles pushed, tokenism MJ saves herself cause "damsel in distress bad", girlboss, forced to play as, Peter undervalued its definitely a driven agenda in the company and really gaming industry to do this stuff so often

[@cardemis7637]

Please touch grass.

[@madsdam3750]

The fact that they are so afraid to make Miles look bad is what makes this game a failure in storytelling.

[@3thosmusic22]

New Mary Jane is basically Caitlyn Jenner in this game

[@fleyedd1479]

I disagree I guess just because i absolutely loved this game In every aspect, the story was mind blowing in a good way, I was much more gripped than #1. I thought #1 was much more boring although I liked it too. I wish Peter got the gadgets from the 1st game, and Miles just had his abilities, that would have really separated themselves

[@guitardedzach]

I really dislike that they went all-in on MJ missions. Absolutely hated playing as Hailey. I still love the game overall, but damn they did some stupid stuff in this game.

[@nadimls3672]

I can’t stand S Jane Watson, that’s the prob😒

[@aliboi9859]

Amazing vid man very refreshing keep it up!!👍🏾

[@draykohunter6805]

11:02 I knew I always felt uncanny looking at Peter's face(not just because of the recast). But why did you put that image in my head? I can't unsee it🫣

[@Fall9]

You can get Wraith and Harry assists as Miles, but for some reason not Peter.

[@toren2099]

Peter 2

[@bll1]

Because Peter is useless according to the game

[@JC_Chance]

I had the opposite issue, weird...

[@Vergil_Sparda69]

I think the swinging and gameplay were a lot better than 1 but the story was mediocre

[@billybeeeeeeeeee]

I enjoyed the video, only one nitpick, you claimed you got no help from anyone else while playing Miles, when CLEARLY in the clip that plays next, you got help from the third Spider-Man in the game, the cat. lmfao. I agree with a good portion of your points, great video.

[@Chilick]

The MJ model broke her jaw in a car accident

[@yeahyeahwowman8099]

MJ model is fine, shes here to help, not for you to unzip your pants and jerk it to pixels.

[@0xycon]

she thinks she's kanye

[@mouse7965]

she doesnt look like that tho lol

[@marcusclark1339]

not really and also not why the game character looks awful

[@SM1-1048]

The spm1 game music🔥🔥🔥

[@EricSmith-tq7tt]

How is the spiderverse mj so much better and she only had like 3 minutes

[@aaronatkinson177]

I still have yet to play this game on my ps5 because i ran out of storage for it which is a big disappointment for me because spider-man 2 was the main thing i wanted for my birthday 🎂 😔

[@danielmontero8200]

Buy a external hard drive.

[@aaronatkinson177]

Can do thank you friend 🧡

[@danielmontero8200]

@@aaronatkinson177 No problem. Hope you enjoy Marvel's Spider-Man 2.

[@aaronatkinson177]

Oh well do but right I'm mostly focusing on waiting for tekken to come out and under night in birth 2 to release

[@benmcclenaghan4117]

I think Marvel Spider-Man 2 Sucks

[@TwistedTalksWithNoah]

Can't agree more 😂

[@Cameronator256]

No

[@MyCrowdpleaser]

He obviously didnt play miles morales

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

Whos your favorite love interest for peter

[@FearfulEntertainment]

The thing that sucked for me is when Pete wore the black suit and you do "The flame" side ques Peter acts all goody goody and not at all aggressive like he should. That really irritated me.

[@marlo176]

Yeah that bothered me

[@akai3974]

This game should have been delayed I do like to I would say it’s amazing now It does have quit a bit of flaws

[@TheGroveinator]

Enjoyed the video overall, but the audio is so distracting. Overly loud and obnoxious music and your voice sounds like youre recording from another room from time to time.

[@AceLM92]

@18:42 the self insert argument has been debunked. She wasn't even a writer, she was an intern for the writers. She had no power to dictate the look of a character model. Don't get me wrong, I don't like the redesign.

[@XoxWRA1THxoX]

am i the only person who likes the last suit you get for miles in this game

[@LarsJesus]

Yes

[@43quin]

I don't think it's all that bad design-wise - even if you don't like the colour scheme as is, you have the option of a few others to choose from for this suit which are much better. The only thing that really irks me about its design though is the hair sticking out at the top. It adds more to the point made earlier in the video about Peter and Miles not really trying to hide their identities anymore.

[@Mrsplifferdoodle]

No I like it a lot

[@jlopez240gaming7]

If they kept the top of his mask closed, I would have liked it more. It’s just that having his hair out, looks dumb. The point is hiding your identity, everyone will know who he is because of his dumb ass haircut they gave him.

[@XoxWRA1THxoX]

@@jlopez240gaming7 maybe but its just the developers want something special you know

[@lilturk5549]

So you edit on share factory huh 🤔

[@Noah_Kai2]

1:47 yeah, the gameplay is better then ever but the story took a big flop

[@adamshalashaska5698]

God that story was just awful. I will never replay that crap again

[@mouse7965]

goated review man completely agree.

[@arandomguy7747]

It's not mid it's disappointing we all hyped this game like it's gonna be a 10/10 masterpiece but in reality it's a 7/5 or 8 out of 10 i I really liked it but the story was rushed as hell and the suites are meh and a few questionable choices here and there

[@marcusclark1339]

4/10 honestly

[@NotedScroll]

Great point on Norman's reaction at the end. The solution was simple too. If they wanted to set up the green goblins vengeance towards the spidermen, then HARRY SHOULD HAVE DIED. Him dying makes more sense in every aspect. It's better for the plot as it creates emotion and tension for the characters. It gives Norman a reason to be angry at the spidermen for not saving his son. I think that the only reason they kept Harry alive was fan service and maybe to set up a scenario like in Spiderman 3 where Harry wants vengeance on Peter for killing his father.

[@aaronalexander9009]

I feel the same exact way I gotta make my own review smh

[@tj493dowl32]

My top 10 along with the others

[@kaidenwanna3209]

18:46 this did not age well…the MJ actor got in a car crash and had to get jaw surgery. The writers face was NOT scanned nor a self insert

[@octo2819]

Can you please give the source of it? I need it

[@YRD9648]

Honestly you voiced my issues with the game. I played it, enjoyed it. Adored getting my edgy boi for the short time he was around. But it didn’t amaze me and I was ready for it to be over at the end, whereas I felt THE OPPOSITE before the Kraven fight. My take away after immediately finishing it is that it wasn’t a bad experience, I may be eager to New Game + it later, but I do felt like they tried to do too much. Miles being especially odd. They do not enough at all in the second act and then way too much in the third. I thought that Mr. Negative was gonna be Miles’ black suit; that both Spider-men would go down a dark path and then rise together. Which they did do that, kinda, but in chasing both rabbits perhaps they failed to catch one, as Peter’s black suit was way too short and Miles just generally wanted to find Mr. Negative, but not to the degree that he harmed anyone as far as I recall. Mr. Negative has mind control powers, perhaps he could have sent minions or done something to try to solicit help from Kraven’s base, and that could’ve sent Miles on a mission, getting more and more frustrated as he gets closer but not quite finding him. I dunno, just an idea, but the game is busy enough as it is for how short it is (why does this always happen with Venom?)

[@cameron737___8]

I have not finished the game yet but Mj missions are stealth missions where u can die, fail, lose. Spider man stealth is just be hidden until u win or they find u and u just easily fight ur way out. I agree they may not make story sense or be realistic but being able sneak past a lot of enemies or basically speed run a section designed to be slow was fun for me. There are actually decisions to make or more than one way to play them (mostly talking about the lizard mj mission)

[@PizzaTimeGuy]

I also liked it at first. But trust me. it gets old pretty fast when replaying it, because of how easy it is, even on Ulmtimate difficulty.

[@lukemather2930]

I hated how mj looked and how they wanted miles to outshine Peter, miles shouldn’t have been the one to finish venom especially when Peter just got an upgrade

[@lukemather2930]

Also what the hell with the suits miles had all the cool ones while peters mostly looked the same