Why Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Was So Disappointing

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Күн бұрын

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@daltonchitko
@daltonchitko Ай бұрын
Gameplay was still great but the story didn’t land compared to the first game which seemed to have such a large emotional impact
@Mistersupafly
@Mistersupafly Ай бұрын
Gameplay was absolutely dogsht! it was soo boring and repetitive and chore like. game has to be the biggest disappointment of 2023
@itegrvdu4989
@itegrvdu4989 28 күн бұрын
​@@Mistersupafly The amount of arguments is insane
@Thebatman.0000
@Thebatman.0000 22 күн бұрын
@@Mistersupaflybro what r u talking about… the games combat was built on the old game greatly in pre much every way, the games combat was much more complex than the first games so if u are calling SM2 combat boring and repetitive than you are saying that about SM1 aswell but even more since the first games combat is even more simple… so tell me how it was repetitive and boring.
@Mistersupafly
@Mistersupafly 21 күн бұрын
@@Thebatman.0000 yea dude still boring and puts me to sleep. button mashing nonsense. WOS still better. hell even the beenox games were better in combat.
@tay14741
@tay14741 18 күн бұрын
@@Mistersupaflybruh said button mashing 😂 just say you didn’t play the game homie
@LonkLover
@LonkLover Ай бұрын
It’s been confirmed the Sony made Insomniac cut down on the final act, along with other large parts of the story so they would have a 2023 PlayStation exclusive. That’s probably a big reason why it didn’t exactly own up to the first.
@user-xx4kt1sk7b
@user-xx4kt1sk7b Ай бұрын
Its also could be because of the Fans pressure, like we were gonna press Sony for releasing it way late and then pressing the game a little bit. because it lacked some features.
@frogglen6350
@frogglen6350 Ай бұрын
Really, this game felt too short. Which is weird because it's longer than the first game
@therealkayori
@therealkayori 22 күн бұрын
peter having the symbiote should have been way longer
@tay14741
@tay14741 18 күн бұрын
@@therealkayoriyeah I think he should’ve had more scenes to make harry hate him and then when he finally gets venom we have the “WE’RE POISONED TO PETER PARKER AND SPIDER-MAN. WE’RE VENOM!” scene and then Peter gets his ass whooped and in the game we see harry have moments fucking with Peter in the city and some boss fights before the final boss and before Peter gets anti venom. the traditional venom along with more time would’ve made this game PERFECT. (I also think the symbiote invasion was good and should’ve been left in but with more time to develop instead of going so fast)
@XSL17X
@XSL17X 10 күн бұрын
Makes sense as I always felt like the last act was missing at least half the content we were given, also the barely any side content compared to the first game, but the rest was overall good imo, a good 7/10 from me, would’ve easily been an 8 if the story was longer and prob a 9 if it also had more side content, maybe DLC will change that IF they drop any, I’m kind of more interested in the Venom game they’re now making and the wolverine game that’s been getting leaked very badly lately, from what I’ve seen
@oneautumnleaf2622
@oneautumnleaf2622 Ай бұрын
the biggest disappointment was the fact we didn't have the black suit that long apparently we only had it for 3 in game days.
@professorzoom1497
@professorzoom1497 Ай бұрын
I feel like it misses like 5 to 10 hours of gameplay.
@ZLPZ1238
@ZLPZ1238 Ай бұрын
Thank goodness I wasn’t the only one who felt this way about the game, I was so disappointed in this game from being such a big fan of the first 2 installments.
@Excalibruh2004
@Excalibruh2004 Ай бұрын
This game made me realise that the Arkham Trilogy will never be topped.
@ccelite3782
@ccelite3782 Ай бұрын
Because they didn't try to cover two people's character arcs in a game that's supposed to star Peter solely Like bro, imagine if in the middle of fighting Ra's Al Ghul or someone else, Robin starts complaining about his "college essay"
@mrmelonman2893
@mrmelonman2893 Ай бұрын
@@ccelite3782 rs. arkham was a lot more focused and clearly had a plan, story, and ending set from its inception. there is literally details from arkham asylum that hinted at events from arkham knight, details from arkham city that hinted at events in arkham knight as well such as scarecrow developing his new fear toxin and getting rid of the mask, jasons reveal etc. it wasn't executed the best by any means but it was at least planned, focused, and it seemed like they knew were they wanted to take the story from the get go or at the very minimum it felt like that. insomniacs Spiderman's story feels like they made shit up along the way just throwing out random ideas without considering how it will fit in the overall narrative
@Juicy_wiwi
@Juicy_wiwi Ай бұрын
“Trilogy”
@Excalibruh2004
@Excalibruh2004 Ай бұрын
@@Juicy_wiwi That's what I said.
@jaylenjayden9305
@jaylenjayden9305 Ай бұрын
@@ccelite3782let’s not act like Arkham knight had the perfect conclusion if insomniac delivers with Spider-Man 3 it would be on par with the Arkham trilogy
@joaomota4336
@joaomota4336 Ай бұрын
You read my mind, there's literally no point in the whole symbiote arc if in the end peter just convenently gets the same exact powers without any of the draw backs..
@frogglen6350
@frogglen6350 Ай бұрын
Here's the issue. People spent 5 years wanting the next spiderman game to have the Symbiote suit. It makes sense why they felt the need to add it in after hyping it up for 2 games
@stevenceja4706
@stevenceja4706 27 күн бұрын
In my opinion, there were way too many Easter eggs. Scream, Anti-Venom, especially Cindy Moon. We didn't need another spider person when they couldn't even tie Miles into the storyline in a believable way.
@TheRedcat14
@TheRedcat14 4 күн бұрын
They did follow Anti-Venom’s comic origin story almost exactly as it was written though. Eddie Brock is dying of cancer after the Venom symbiote left him when he encounters Mr. Negative who charges the remaining symbiote left inside of Eddie, it bonds with his white blood cells and starts healing Eddie without the mind altering side effects the venom symbiote had. Only difference is it’s Harry here and not cancer.
@f7or1n
@f7or1n Ай бұрын
The fact that you fight kraven as black suit spiderman in the same night as you fight kraven as venom is crazy to me, there shouldve been some missions between those fights and also give some more motivation and cook up kraven's character
@Phil_DeFontaine
@Phil_DeFontaine 7 күн бұрын
Kraven was nice character in this game. You had him for biggest half of the game and this was enough to understand his character and what he wants.
@jbstudios3000
@jbstudios3000 Ай бұрын
I just wish it had been a straight up Spider-Man sequel that dealt with the fallout of his story from the first game and only focused on miles minimally like the first game did. They both deserve to be the main characters of their own games. Obviously yes Spider-Man was the main character over Miles in this and it was not a 50/50 split game but come. Spider-Man and his villains got WAY less screen time and build up than they should have. The Miles stuff largely should have just been hinted at and built up for his own sequel. I’m not saying they can’t make a game where it’s 50/50 one day but first of all this wasn’t even that and second they both should get their own trilogies first. This feels like Spider-Man got very short handed. Not to mention the plot literally suggests that a 10 year vet Spider-Man isn’t even close to as good as miles who has only been a hero for a year. Yes Spider-Man is grieving but if insomniac understood Spider-Man better they would know that those emotions should make him stronger not weaker. And yes he was less skilled and strong in this than it should have been. The whole game was just a disappoint in my opinion. I hope his third game brings it home but it’ll likely end in either Spider-Man’s death or permanent retirement which is out of character. But whatever.
@Owen-sx4jj
@Owen-sx4jj Ай бұрын
I agree with there, Spiderman shouldve gotten stronger in grief not weaker, he'd be subconsciously taking it out on the world and won't be pulling his punches as much because he doesn't feel ok. Then comes the Symbiote which feeds on that hate. I wanted to see Peter absolutely maul the lizard because he kept wasting his time but that never happened and he barely even beat him in the black suit
@jbstudios3000
@jbstudios3000 Ай бұрын
@@Owen-sx4jj yep. They went the way they did to make Miles look stronger than Spider-Man so superficial Fans would be ok with the inevitable replacement. Same thing Disney pulled with Rey and Luke in Last Jedi.
@acedoomer5244
@acedoomer5244 24 күн бұрын
Agree with all your speech, and about "they deserve to be mc of their own sequels", I think they should do 2 campaigns for Peter and for Miles in this game, at least for keeping player longer here and increasing time for completing the game
@jbstudios3000
@jbstudios3000 24 күн бұрын
@@acedoomer5244 I think Miles needs to die in the next one to REALLY impact Spider-Man’s return. And you reaffirm why he can’t look the other way.
@acedoomer5244
@acedoomer5244 24 күн бұрын
@@jbstudios3000 hahahhaha, true
@Pobaika
@Pobaika Ай бұрын
I may be the first one to say this but marvels Spider-Man 2 has really died out since release man. Feels like this game went 2 steps back compared to the first game. Swinging/ combat wise they taken stuffs out which angered me and also they didn’t go beyond in that aspect. The game has been out for 7 MONTHS….. and still no dlc and ppl wonder why the game is dying. I got bored of this game cuz it didn’t have that replay value like it did the first gam. Also another reason why this game is dead is cuz the symbiote plays the exact same way as the other regular suits (apart from surge) but outside of that it’s the same combat/ dodge/ swing animations and the finishers… you can’t even morph into the symbiote in the game🤦🏾‍♂️ it don’t feel different when wearing it cuz it doesn’t play different. Insomniac really let me down
@Owen-sx4jj
@Owen-sx4jj Ай бұрын
It's a trash game for me. Gameplay was barely touched. It was already very repetitive but they thought just adding arcady style special moves would make us happy maybe dumb dumbs but not people who actually like to play their games instead of watch interactive movie which is most Sony titles currently. Swinging as well is bad. I still can't do what older games let us do effortlessly. I swing near a wall and now I have to wall run when I don't want to as well as some other things. Mj has more play time than venom etc. Symbiote experience is bad and turned out be just a suit after intihar said he didn't wanna just add it as a suit in the first game. 6.5/10
@Pobaika
@Pobaika 28 күн бұрын
@@Owen-sx4jj so so disappointed. I was more disappointed gameplay wise. What I expected it wasn’t in the game. You’d think Peter being spidey for almost a decade would have developed creative ways to fight his enemies, double or triple takedowns, environmental takedowns but no.
@Sagegabs
@Sagegabs 23 күн бұрын
You're not the first one, a lot of us real Spider-fans feel this way.
@jackkawf4449
@jackkawf4449 Ай бұрын
This game was every step forward they took two back. Also things they could have improved on, they either half ass-ed or completely neglected..
@1800shad
@1800shad Ай бұрын
The lack of side content hit pretty hard too it’s extremely easy to rush through the story, because the pacing is pretty intense too, you always feel like u need to rush to the next story mission I would of appreciated a little more time as symbiote Peter and even a few side missions only available while having the symbiote
@jackkawf4449
@jackkawf4449 Ай бұрын
I really don't understand why they didn't do like Arkham and have stealth and combat challenges.
@frogglen6350
@frogglen6350 Ай бұрын
Well what was the side content in spiderman 2018? It was either generic fetch quests or web swing to a location and beat up some guys. In a game where most of the story missions already have you beating up guys
@heyecanlioyuncu9682
@heyecanlioyuncu9682 29 күн бұрын
​@@frogglen6350I mean techniqually thats all the action games in general soo your point is litereally non existent :/ the dialogues make a game and 2018 had really good side missions most people just didnt play them cause they wanted to play the main story.
@baki484
@baki484 24 күн бұрын
​@@jackkawf4449 their combat and stealth can't test you on anything outside "how fast can you clear these enemies".
@jackkawf4449
@jackkawf4449 24 күн бұрын
@@baki484 true, the stealth is pathetic for a Spiderman game especially since they took out half the gadgets
@bigboss4993
@bigboss4993 Ай бұрын
I hated everything about anti-venom in the game simply because it makes all the stuff I liked about the symbiote less cool and I mean everything from the name of the abilities to icon that goes with them.
@Jozombies115
@Jozombies115 Ай бұрын
Thank you. It made the symbiote feel a lot less special because you never totally lose it when losing it is integral to every symbiote spider-man story.
@Sagegabs
@Sagegabs 23 күн бұрын
I agree with both of you, this means that whoever was involved in the writing doesn't know anything about the symbiote suit/Venom arc.
@user-xx4kt1sk7b
@user-xx4kt1sk7b Ай бұрын
I still remember that Tony Todd said that we were gonna get a venom mission like the one we had in miles Morales at the beginning when he is riding Rhino. Where did that go? In my opinion if I was going to write this it would have been like after the kravens boss fight with Peter mile tries to save Peter but miles looses and Peter turns into venom and then we get to play as venom where we rage around the city and go to harry and do something and then we get like a boss fight with kraven as venom (Peter) after we kill kraven miles has to beat venom or make Peter loose venom and do the tear in half. After sometime they leave we see harry in a bed dying, we see that the symbiote reached harry and turned him into venom. after some story missions we get a call from MJ or The Police and we see that there is a mysterious figure in alley way doing some mysterious stuff and we get to a cutscene shown in the reveal trailer at the end. Then we get more missions and have to fight venom as Peter and miles.
@heyecanlioyuncu9682
@heyecanlioyuncu9682 29 күн бұрын
Litereally this single scene wouşd have been better than the whole game
@user-xx4kt1sk7b
@user-xx4kt1sk7b 29 күн бұрын
@@heyecanlioyuncu9682 I really thought that they were gonna add a mission like the chase ones but reversed, like instead we chasing the villains they would chase us and we would have to dodge. Like I said if we met venom in the alleyway, I would have done like they would have gotten like scared and their spider sense wouldn’t go on, so it would be like an attack without a warning. And that would ultimately scare them, which would lead us to a mission where we would have to evade from Venom. Which would have been really fun and a bit scary, but they didn’t do that, leading to venom being scary but like not the level of fear that you would actually get if you like saw him Irl.
@heyecanlioyuncu9682
@heyecanlioyuncu9682 29 күн бұрын
@@user-xx4kt1sk7b Dude if I go to heaven I am gone have to summon you to read your mind and make THAT version of sm2 real😭
@heyecanlioyuncu9682
@heyecanlioyuncu9682 29 күн бұрын
@@user-xx4kt1sk7b great idea
@acedoomer5244
@acedoomer5244 24 күн бұрын
The only thing i would change in your scenario is taking black suit off, cuz this is challenge Peter should do it all by himself, showing Peter's strong morality and that he is really strong mentaly to fight with symbiote and fight with desire to leave it to himself and do what's right
@Skilledbruiser-tc3cc
@Skilledbruiser-tc3cc Ай бұрын
In my opinion, I think that the boss fight of Kraven and Peter back to back is weird story wise. It should have been, he goes back to Dr. Connors’ lab, used the rock to get the symbiote off, and then Harry gets the symbiote. Then, sometime after the scream boss fight, Peter gets corrupted by Venom and THATS when you fight Peter
@Mrsplifferdoodle
@Mrsplifferdoodle 4 күн бұрын
Why tf would he take the symbiote off, just to put it back on again?
@Skilledbruiser-tc3cc
@Skilledbruiser-tc3cc 4 күн бұрын
It wouldn’t be by choice bro
@JesG.
@JesG. Ай бұрын
I liked the game but there was so many missed opportunities story was rushed the university mission's suck and i skip cutscenes now to get to the good parts of the game
@NoirNameless
@NoirNameless Ай бұрын
The addiction aspect of having the symbiote needed to be explored more. Have Peter get it once, somehow gets ripped off him after having it for a while, and feel like he needs to have it to function once he doesn’t have it anymore. Maybe something happens where he can’t save someone during a set piece, and that’s what makes him want it back more. So he resorts to more brutal ways of fighting crime to compensate for not having it since it frustrates him. When he gets it back, miles and mj don’t hear from him for a while, but know he’s fighting crime still, but at a rate so rapid, miles doesn’t have much to do in the city. He sees the horrific aftermath’s of some of Peter’s crime fighting (paralyzed criminals, destroyed warehouses, etc) and questions if he’s even a good guy anymore. He’d be the villain in my version, personally. Maybe miles has to get venom’s help to beat Peter since he’s gotten so powerful.
@Owen-sx4jj
@Owen-sx4jj Ай бұрын
I put on the Symbiote suit and I don't feel stronger. It plays the same as every other suit in the game. Surge mode can be used on any other suit and just becomes auto finishers which are repetitive and lazy. It's basically just a gimmick and no different from another suit. The game in general is lazily made
@Nebulisreconx
@Nebulisreconx Ай бұрын
Gameplay is alright still prefer web of shadows combat for the amount of expression
@Owen-sx4jj
@Owen-sx4jj Ай бұрын
Yh this game has no expression. Combat is boiled down to pressing square
@Nebulisreconx
@Nebulisreconx Ай бұрын
@@Owen-sx4jj There is a little bit of expression but it’s less than the first game given how little effort they put into stealth gameplay this time around. Needs more acrobatics and more ways to manipulate the positioning of enemies. the original Spider-Man 2 movie game still has the most expression of any Spider-Man game since you had upwards of 40 different moves to use on enemies.
@Owen-sx4jj
@Owen-sx4jj Ай бұрын
@@Nebulisreconx Spiderman 3 as well and heck, ultimate and wos. These news insombore games just aren't it. Press square to do same slow,4hit combo with the same animations till you finish the game
@Nebulisreconx
@Nebulisreconx Ай бұрын
@@Owen-sx4jj sad but true
@ajcorpus5155
@ajcorpus5155 Күн бұрын
I felt the city felt empty and what helped make it feel empty was the fact that in almost like all the crimes there’s no cops that help spiderman in the first game and miles morales cops were there either during or after the crime but not here
@caldervanegas240
@caldervanegas240 27 күн бұрын
I originally was more forgiving of the game until I realized basically last mouth that haven’t played the game for about 5 mouths which kinda made realize that the game didn’t give fully what I wanted from it and that really saddens me because I love insomniac’s take on these characters except Venom which it feels this game is something that could have been fantastic but was just half baked where there’s a lot of good but also a lot of bad which really sucks.
@gogetathestrongestfusion
@gogetathestrongestfusion Ай бұрын
Nah Symbiote Peter is actually the easiest boss in the game for various of reasons, one being his attacks are the easiest to parry, second webbing Peter up as he’s attacking literally negates all his attacks and he can’t even touch you and third the bell leaves him open so much giving you the biggest handy cap even tho you can beat Peter without the bell because he’s just that easy.
@DXSHTPST
@DXSHTPST 8 күн бұрын
The only 3 things i slightly dislike in the game are: Peter is kinda nerfed in this game. Mj And Miles Seem to have more of a Spotlight than Peter. And Anti Venom Should be a buffed a bit,but i think overall this game is great.
@Mrsplifferdoodle
@Mrsplifferdoodle 4 күн бұрын
Did you play the game? Peter is the main focus for a good majority of the game.
@DXSHTPST
@DXSHTPST 4 күн бұрын
@@Mrsplifferdoodle that was when I actually thought peter was more nerfed here because I watched gazillions of videos where they all say "Peter got nerfed because he gets hit and blah blah blah,now listen to my 50 minute long yap session while you all are forced to agree with me."
@carlstites9222
@carlstites9222 26 күн бұрын
Having a whole mission playing as a black deaf girl is insane 😂😂😂😂
@dariusjones6413
@dariusjones6413 2 күн бұрын
I actually agree with you the suits, the story, the gadgets and it could’ve added a new moves. From when the game finally came out, I knew there could’ve been so much more.
@jobejones185
@jobejones185 Ай бұрын
Even though I enjoyed this game when I played it, I honestly forgot the game even existed pretty soon after and that never happened with the first one.
@kboi1170
@kboi1170 7 күн бұрын
3:13 The issue (in my opinion) is the fact that the actress doesn’t look ANYTHING like that, even after the surgery she had done. This new MJ looks suspiciously like one of the female writers who works at Insomniac however.
@devincollins9163
@devincollins9163 4 күн бұрын
I wished we had more fights with venom and kraven in the game. Like it felt like there was supposed to be more fights but it was rushed. Like I really wanted a couple of fights where venom was maybe hunting down Peter and miles throughout the city before the final fight.
@connie4334
@connie4334 Ай бұрын
I’ve been saying this since day one, but everyone’s been meat riding Insomniac so hard that I can’t have a fucking opinion
@SD-vp5vo
@SD-vp5vo Ай бұрын
yup, it was a let down
@BiggieJ4224
@BiggieJ4224 7 күн бұрын
Already made a comment, but I just want to point out that as much as I want to hope for sm3, I feel like it’s already doomed for 3 reasons, reason 1 is Cindy, I like her character in the comics but I just don’t feel like she fits here right now and if they try to cram her origin into the third game and make her fight the big bad of the entire trilogy it won’t make sense as she doesnt have a connection with Norman to make the payoff satisfying, that’s exactly what happened with miles and venom, they barely knew each other so anytime they interacted it felt awkward and forced, and quite honestly I think miles was a detriment to this story as well, for having the same amount of runtime as the last game, that means that the characters respective time to develop is cut in half, and it’s even more brutally divided with mj missions, so it feels as if we are both getting less quantity and quality with each character unlike in the two solo games where it was contained to mostly one character and it worked so well because of it, you can’t make a 2 protagonist game if you either dont develop them along side each other rather than just interact and still give them ENOUGH time of their own for Individual arcs, it felt like both miles and Pete’s arcs were both side stories just because of the lack of focus and time we had with them. Or you can try and increase the overall time of the games runtime and that would honestly fix a lot of problems. Now add a third protagonist in the mix and I just feel it all goes to shit. And gameplay wise they have to allocate so much resources to her voice lines, combat animations, abilities, traversal animations, etc and that means less resources and time able to be spent on developing the games core system further than it could’ve been without jamming another character in there. (Ps I know including her in a miles spinoff or venom spinnof would allow us time with her so it doesn’t feel as forced, but my previous points still apply even then just at a slightly lesser scale) And reason 2 is sweet baby inc, any game they’ve touched has gone to hell, they are like a silent cancer in the gaming industry that not many people know about and they have terrible management and force unnecessary time and energy focusing on things no one should care about in a video game, and make narrative decisions that ruin what they touched. It’s not shocking that they’ve dipped their stubby little hands in SSKTJL and look how that game turned out And reason 3 is, honestly why change anything? I mean from insomniacs point of view, people will shit shovel anything they put out just because it’s “insomniac” and Spider-Man and so people already have these rose tinted glasses for the franchise and will buy whatever they give them, there isn’t a riot outside their headquarters demanding change, the only people demanding change are the few people with awareness and critical thinking that can see through this games cracks and they are a fraction of the consumer market, so go ahead Bryan intihar, go ballistic with your mj missions that you oddly are hellbent of getting in your game, because regardless at the end of the day no one gaf
@Sagegabs
@Sagegabs Ай бұрын
I agree on everything you said, 8 months later I'm still looking for people to make real reviews about this game being not the greatest thing media wants gamers to believe. I'm so dissapointed on what Insomniac and SBI did to this amazing IP, as many people I am... Or was a huge Spider-Man fan since the PS1 game. I bought my PS4 a bit late and then got the game from 2018. It was an amazing experience, not perfect obviously but very fullfilling, Miles Morales was meh to me but I was extremely excited for Spider-Man 2 and we got this half baked product.
@GarethMcD-zq8ei
@GarethMcD-zq8ei 28 күн бұрын
I hate the fact that not all suits got symbiote treatment
@gunnagetya
@gunnagetya Ай бұрын
Wish peter kept the symbiote for longer kinda of a shame we won't see it ever I hope peter loses the anti venom suit because I kinda dislike Sony did rush them I bet they learned there reason spiderman 3 eith be a really good game I hope
@BiggieJ4224
@BiggieJ4224 7 күн бұрын
I just don’t feel like most people who play the Spider-Man games actually know good combat, Spider-Man 1 and Spider-Man miles morales to me still have the better combat. On paper you see all the changes and additions Spider-Man 2 has made but overall there are big and small differences that affect the game in a negative way, and let me emphasize the small because people call you out for pointing out small issues but those small issues add up and eventually can make your experience feel “off” for example, the pacing of the animations and speed of abilities is significantly slower, the web pulls and throws feel very slow and weak and not satisfying to use at all, for whatever reason the impacts of the hits on both ends don’t feel impactful at all and this was already a somewhat of a problem for the first two games, and I could go on and on with the small. Some of the big ones was the removal of the gadgets, they quick fire idea is good, but they executed it with shitty gadgets that just do all the work for you and don’t have that satisfying utility they did and Spider-Man 1 minus a few op exceptions, should’ve done it like the Harry Potter game where there are gadget profiles or whatever so that you can alternate between them but still have quick fire, enemy design on paper is supposed to be more difficult, and everyone seems to agree it is but am I the only one that is so confused? I played on the hardest difficulty, and parrying is too easy, enemies attack you way less often, I never feel at risk with AOE throwables anymore like I used to, enemy abilities dont Feel like a threat at all besides the anti air one, and I went back to play miles morales after a while and after getting off that rust I still felt like it was harder to play but at the same time way more fast paced, impactful, engaging, and difficult. Combat in sm2 just feels cobbled together sloppily, every new ability functions but some of those said functions are useless and or unsatisfying to use. Everyone’s rebuttal is always something straight out of a developers handbook I swear, it’s always along the lines of “well you can combine gadgets, special abilities, webs, finishers and intertwine them cohesively and pair them to create combos” like no shit man, that’s combat basics 101, just because those are possible in the game doesn’t mean they are executed well. It’s a shame because a Spider-Man game with perfect combat is literally my number 1 gaming wish, his power set and just everything about him is so unique and has so much potential to be methodically integrated to where it’s so good. The combat community for this game is slowly realizing how much this game fumbled, idk why it took so long but people like sonisbiotic for example can see that now, although I will say I’m not a huge fan of his style of combat, he’s obviously very good but it’s more or less just purposeless air juggling and it gets stale
@ZaddyGohan
@ZaddyGohan 22 күн бұрын
The game was just simply rushed and I think they over-budgeted a little bit. The fact that Tony Todd said that they used only about 20-odd percent of the dialogue he recorded shows that they cut a shit load of content from the game
@NadahzNoir
@NadahzNoir 7 күн бұрын
Insomniac is a one trick pony. Would like to see another developer take a crack at it. Without sweet baby inc involvement.
@NikhilGupta-lf4yu
@NikhilGupta-lf4yu Ай бұрын
Its not a bad game far from it its really good but it has flaws
@Deadlierquill96
@Deadlierquill96 Ай бұрын
I personally liked this game more than the first one for the gameplay alone yeah the story is a bit iffy at times but the gameplay is somehow better than the first one and miles morales
@danielmontero8200
@danielmontero8200 Ай бұрын
I too would expect gameplay improvement 3 games in to the franchise.
@clendrywilson7001
@clendrywilson7001 15 күн бұрын
Again I do not believe the surgery thing. She looks the same in real life. They changed her face on purpose. End of story.
@miserablekirby2586
@miserablekirby2586 Ай бұрын
Dude am I crazy or did this game make anybody else have pstd flashbacks of tears of the kingdom☹️
@Bobby_Sauce.
@Bobby_Sauce. Ай бұрын
They could’ve made it to where I can toggle the other Spider-Man to follow me cuz I agree I barely felt that they worked together at made all the more worse when u can only run into the other Spider-Man when playing as Peter as miles u will NEVER RUN INTO PETER ONLY WRAITH which is dumb
@NycticeiusHumeralis
@NycticeiusHumeralis 28 күн бұрын
When im in a lying competition and my opponent is:
@chanceyporter6178
@chanceyporter6178 8 күн бұрын
Even venoms abilities in this game is disappointing i wanted something on par with the prototype games casuing havoc wrecking cars and buildings and destruction like in those games
@svedixz4818
@svedixz4818 Ай бұрын
Lmfao whys everyone switching up on spiderman 2? Literally everyone loved it lmao
@ayyas7066
@ayyas7066 Ай бұрын
Fr the switch up is crazy😂😂
@svedixz4818
@svedixz4818 Ай бұрын
@@ayyas7066 facts
@AshtonDjaio
@AshtonDjaio Ай бұрын
​@@svedixz4818 i think it's because it could've been so much more amazing than what we actually got in the end, a rushed unfinished mess of a game. 🤷🏻‍♂️ There are SOO MANY PROBLEMS in this game imo from the Gameplay, Story And Characters aspect. Just a 8/10 Safe game.
@boss_160
@boss_160 Ай бұрын
It’s because everyone found out that there was a lot more of venom lines and recordings
@user-xx4kt1sk7b
@user-xx4kt1sk7b Ай бұрын
@@boss_160 If you see the pre alpha footage of the game there were so many great missions like venom fight in the city and the art revealed where Peter was fighting kraven. There were also way more destructiveness in those scenes
@YuniorGamboa
@YuniorGamboa 16 күн бұрын
Man, this story suffers in the sequel so much, but at least the gam, replay its fun. This is what I have noticed recently from PlayStation, they are nailing the gameplay mechanics but the plot suffers
@cooperb5045
@cooperb5045 Ай бұрын
Good video I agree completely. Marvel’s spider man 2 is good but could’ve been more
@LOMAZKO7
@LOMAZKO7 Ай бұрын
Great gameplay and great story will always be better than downgraded story and little improved gameplay for me. Thats why I think Spider-Man 1>>>>> Spider-Man 2.
@czms922
@czms922 17 күн бұрын
Game gives great things until it's comes to the bosses not using the great things. Story is ok until it's compared to the first entry. Traversal is amazing tho
@czms922
@czms922 17 күн бұрын
What I mean by that is Venom, he sprouts wings which should have led into a web wing chase or get away. Less cutscenes and more actual gameplay.
@timbrooks134
@timbrooks134 Ай бұрын
We can be greater together with the canceled Spider-Man multiplayer game that looks absolutely great trailer just leaked look it up it's call spider-Man the great web
@danieltensley2470
@danieltensley2470 6 күн бұрын
They are going to kill Mary jane off in the next Spiderman, that why anut may is dead already and the goblin is coming .
@NanoTechBlueJ26
@NanoTechBlueJ26 15 күн бұрын
Sony rushed the cooking and cancelled the online game So fuck them. “Oh, they didn’t have time 😭“
@nathankarczewski6351
@nathankarczewski6351 16 күн бұрын
This game is not disappointing.
@bobross2251
@bobross2251 19 күн бұрын
In the DLC’s Peter is fine and over what happened to may but sm2 they backtrack terrible writing
@Jay_Walker92
@Jay_Walker92 Ай бұрын
Great from beginning to end...Idk what y'all were expecting.
@obiwanshinobi87
@obiwanshinobi87 Ай бұрын
It was??
@connie4334
@connie4334 Ай бұрын
Yep
@mrmelonman2893
@mrmelonman2893 Ай бұрын
too me it was
@cnodyysy
@cnodyysy 4 күн бұрын
Yall hating on anything these days
@wizardwolf1020
@wizardwolf1020 Ай бұрын
To be honest you kind of just spent half this video saying all the great things about it, including things that I don’t think were great or good, and then kind of made the dissappointing aspects sound like they were “meh” disappointments instead of actual dissappointments or mess ups. Also, optimization for PS5? I don’t know when you played the game but it crashed multiple times for me at release not even mentioning the bugs I came across
@0joshdude
@0joshdude 4 күн бұрын
Sweet baby really broke this game there no need for mj too be so ugly and over power plus no need to play as a disabled
@Phil_DeFontaine
@Phil_DeFontaine 7 күн бұрын
It wasn't for me at least
@Bashervr333
@Bashervr333 Ай бұрын
I disagree
@Princekaydrae2
@Princekaydrae2 25 күн бұрын
Im done at this point man click show me your criticism for valid but others were just outright stupid where the hell is the hype for this game that I felt and saw last October when it dropped
@EhsjwWhehwu
@EhsjwWhehwu 6 күн бұрын
This game sucked and playing it wasnt enjoyable. It looks like shit. It feels like shit. The lighting is shit and i didnt like the story.
@kamenrideruniter4503
@kamenrideruniter4503 Ай бұрын
You're about 8 months late
@jeffflowers4701
@jeffflowers4701 29 күн бұрын
wait it was?
@Hawaiian_Pizza_Enjoyer
@Hawaiian_Pizza_Enjoyer 29 күн бұрын
Kinda
@jeffflowers4701
@jeffflowers4701 29 күн бұрын
@@Hawaiian_Pizza_Enjoyer huh. landed for me
@frogglen6350
@frogglen6350 Ай бұрын
I don't see the issue with Miles fighting venom. Yes, his relationship with Harry isn't as close compared to Peter, but come on. The trailer literally advertised both spidermen having to fight. venom. U didn't soend all that time grinding up miles for him to not contribute in the last battle
@FocusedPhoenix-lr9zc
@FocusedPhoenix-lr9zc Ай бұрын
Bro your 8 months late.Everyone loved it.Why switch up now?
@mrmelonman2893
@mrmelonman2893 Ай бұрын
honeymoon phase ended, and the hype died down
@danielmontero8200
@danielmontero8200 Ай бұрын
Obviously not everyone loved it.
@eudespereira8233
@eudespereira8233 Ай бұрын
The majority here in Brazil, especially for those who are not casual, has generated many complaints and controversies about this game since it was released, and there are several reasons why
@yuuaserora2641
@yuuaserora2641 Ай бұрын
stop lying
@Sagegabs
@Sagegabs Ай бұрын
Everyone who? You're delusional if you think this game is great.
@tyleroutland435
@tyleroutland435 Ай бұрын
He is 100 percent wrong. Marvel's Spiderman 2 is amazing, not disappointing the story, like the first two is emotional, intense, and has good character development. The graphics, music, character models, boss fights, and gameplay are amazing, I liked the mj missions, and I thought they were improved. Don't listen to him it's not disappointing the only things I didn't like was I didn't like the mascot side quest and the annoying puzzles.
@TheGameianDark
@TheGameianDark Ай бұрын
Hi Insomniac employee #274
@imtiyazyasir23
@imtiyazyasir23 Ай бұрын
Yh tbh, I really loved spider man 2 but that's just me
@tyleroutland435
@tyleroutland435 Ай бұрын
@@imtiyazyasir23 same
@VonDontSpam
@VonDontSpam Ай бұрын
@@TheGameianDarkbro is definitely an affiliate lol
@bullymaguire513
@bullymaguire513 Ай бұрын
He's just giving feedback lmao. Had you listened to what he said you'd know he was praising some parts and criticising some parts, as anyone should do.
@Flaws.13
@Flaws.13 Ай бұрын
ratio fn
@real_reverse
@real_reverse Ай бұрын
this game was good bro what are you talking about
@mrmelonman2893
@mrmelonman2893 Ай бұрын
it was disappointing asf. how tf does batman Arkham knight a game based around batman being a stoic loner incorporate the teamwork aspect better than a game whose tagline was literally be greater together?
@real_reverse
@real_reverse Ай бұрын
@@mrmelonman2893 nga shut up
@eudespereira8233
@eudespereira8233 Ай бұрын
​@@mrmelonman2893believe me, any batman game is much better than this dlc called spider woke 2, and no arkham knight was not disappointing
@Sagegabs
@Sagegabs 20 күн бұрын
This is your very first videogame right?
@Real_Shawn
@Real_Shawn 4 күн бұрын
​@@real_reverseget lost
@hytek3962
@hytek3962 Ай бұрын
It wasn’t disappointing lol
@stormexx1610
@stormexx1610 Ай бұрын
it was I mean tf was that boss fight
@hytek3962
@hytek3962 Ай бұрын
@@stormexx1610 so one boss fight dictates an entire game?💀💀
@stormexx1610
@stormexx1610 Ай бұрын
@@hytek3962 it was an example so much things could ve been better
@Batman69356
@Batman69356 Ай бұрын
@@stormexx1610the boss in the game was great
@Lonewolfyoutube-pg1mm
@Lonewolfyoutube-pg1mm Ай бұрын
@@stormexx1610 dude thats your opinion and your opinion is trash, it stinks
@Vetnex-mw4fq6kk3x
@Vetnex-mw4fq6kk3x Ай бұрын
This game is the goat
@cb20076
@cb20076 Ай бұрын
Ur being pedantic
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