Spider-Man 2 - One Year Later

[@Trench-coat]

What are your thoughts on Spider-Man 2? Let me know down in the comments. (This video has spoilers)

[@Nikolai-petrović]

It did not live to masterpice that was frist game

[@geraintthatcher3076]

I didn't get to play Peter much and when I did it felt like he wasn't as good as Miles

[@JaycionCollins-oe9hh]

Bro it’s a good game done things never change but still give it some you haters

[@JaycionCollins-oe9hh]

Give it love haters

[@featherguardian6023]

7 out of 10, the Gameplay is Great, Each Spider-Men brings something Unique, the Villains look Good, and the Graphics look Amazing, I just think that if they delay the Game for Another Year and Fix the Story and the 3rd Half, it could have been Better but if Feels Underrated because something felt missing and now a Year Later and no DLC Expansion, I guess we’ll never Know.

[@bekwem4625]

7/10 is a bit low id say, people rated the first game sooo highly (mainly coz of its story) but in big part to its gameplay which the 2nd game FAR supercedes, the story wasn’t the best for sure but it wasn’t awful and had some great moments, as someone who gave the first game a 9-10 id give this one an 8-9

[@featherguardian6023]

@@bekwem4625 To me if the Game had more time and the Third Act was Better and we got DLC to complete Loose Ends, I would have given it a 8 or a 9 but I view it as a Underrated Game, now i am playing to play SM2 soon so I can see if I can change my mind, I just think some parts didn’t aged well

[@Trench-coat]

I totally agree with you!

[@lm_slayer1]

@@bekwem4625I wouldn’t say FAR supersedes outside of the web swinging. The mission design isnt any better, the set pieces aren’t better, and the combat is arguably worse in some aspects, but better in others.

[@mohdsalmand1385]

By those things you mentioned it sounds like an 8.5/10.

[@damefame8921]

The fact there was no co op with 2 spidermen is still insane to me

[@Trench-coat]

I was fine with no multiplayer... I prefer no multiplayer in my single player games tbh

[@donovanbowman8157]

Even without co-op, there were no real joint missions with Miles. You do 3 with him I believe? Attempting to stop them from freeing Li. Chasing Lizard andddd the end. Hell Harry had the best one with freeing Lonnie. Us not being able to swing and see a Spider-Man chasing a car and going in to help was a miss. Not being able to run into Peter doing a crime was a miss. It never felt like there were 2 Spider-Men. Just the player and that’s a problem

[@baki484]

The series was introduced as single-player. Why should there be co-op? Gotham knights doesn't even 60fps because of that co-op crap and too many concessions would have to made to accommodate the feature.

[@aydenulery9562]

@@baki484Gotham knights is a great example of a game that did zero things right lmao

[@randyortonsbulge]

@@donovanbowman8157really. I ran into both Peter and miles fighting crimes. You must not have played the game or at least any side activity.

[@lm_slayer1]

I’ll never understand people who say this rendition of venom is “one of the greatest”, let alone the best. This game understands nothing about what makes venom interesting outside of his design and VA. I usually don’t care if a new adaptation of a character changes said character, as long as the changes not only make sense within the given context, but also supersede the original version. This version is worse in every way. Venom went from a dark mirror version of spider man that was beyond dangerous due to having access to peter’s memories and being able to not trigger his spider sense, to a big dumb alien brute that wants to take over the planet because “it’s an alien”. The entire reason venom is even slightly interesting as his own character compared to most of spider man’s rogues gallery is that his motivations are nuanced and evolve as he develops as a character. He has a twisted form of justice, which translates directly from him turning into an Anti-hero after finally forgiving peter and letting go of his hatred. He’s always been goofy even as a villain, so it makes sense he would be even goofier as a hero. I cant believe Im saying this, but the venom movies are a significantly better depiction of the character. And now there are rumors of a venom game with him as an anti hero? How does that make any sense? It’s beyond apparent that this version of venom could give less of a shit about saving people, he was more than willing to enslave the entire planet by twisting harry’s “heal the world” mission. You could make the argument that this venom just understood the assignment incorrectly and did actually want to help people, but if that were the case, why would he completely take over harry to the point of not letting him have any influence over his body? It feels like a jumbled mess of 2 scripts snd they just said “fuck it, mix and match till we get something that looks coherent”

[@Trench-coat]

I agree with you. I certainly meant the best version of Venom in terms of design and voice. In terms of character he is very weak!

[@dupersuper6516]

This is the most accurate description of the character, and a big issue with every depiction we've seen in pop media of venom since web of shadows.

[@BM-sg1sl]

Thank you for writing this so I didn’t have to write it😂. Yes Venom used to be the vegeta to Spider-Man’s goku. A dark mirror. In modern media he’s just a big gooey brute who doesn’t shoot webs or anything spiderman like. He’s more like fat majin buu instead of Vegeta. I think ultimate Venom is when things went wrong for this character. PS: Venom was big because the host was big in size. I’ll never get over a small kid like Harry being Venom. The symbiote is not supposed to enhance the hosts size. This is something else taken from ultimate Venom which is stupid.

[@baki484]

Perfectly said. The real shame is his design and voice being the best. The Same goes for Kraven as well who was more Gladiator than hunter. The goons did the hunting.

[@thecod2345]

I think part of the problem is that (personally) venom doesn’t work well as a character per say, but as a catalyst. He brings the worst out of his host, but he isn’t fully or even mostly in the drivers seat. Here he’s just an alien that wants to take over the world. This is part of why I think venom on Peter worked well in Spider-Man 3, as goofy as it is. Venom doesn’t cause Peter’s problems, it just amplifies them and incentivizes him to react poorly to them, he’s a never ending angry power trip until Peter finally becomes lucid after he hits MJ.

[@PrettyboyAshtun]

was so disappointed with this game having two spidermen had crazy potential but it didn’t do much with that concept the story was rushed and there was nothing to do compared to the first game.

[@Trench-coat]

The game had so much potential but perhaps they were to ambitious...

[@Jaffyhigh]

​@@Trench-coatwell to be fair it's not entirely insomniacs fault I mean they did have to cut out content and they clearly had a lot more stuff planned for the game just that Sony rushed them in a way and just needed a bit more time, also love the video 👍🏾

[@Trench-coat]

@@Jaffyhigh Thanks! Yeah it's clearly not just insomniacs fault. I think working with Sony is very difficult.

[@CitrusArchitect]

You said they buffed Peter, but honestly removing his gadget wheel made me feel like they were nerfing him. Only having four slots to do abilities and only a couple gadgets on the side was pretty disappointing to me. I also didn't love the trope the game kept using of letting The bad guy escape every time you defeat them because the story demanded it. I also think beating up random civilians who are now wearing venom suits is also ridiculous and kind of funny, but not to the game's benefit.

[@Trench-coat]

I totally get you! It’s like they took away Peter's coolest toys and left him with just a few very over powered ones.

[@stephanhenry9205]

It’s hilarious how over the top sweet Miles and Peter are in every interaction they have but you get control against symbiotic citizens and just mercilessly stomp them out.

[@Fandom_Man]

Okay the main problem with those abilities is I feel like people can just complete all their missions very easily because of them without having to do any sort of combat and just spamming web gadgets while in this game you are more limited to the gadgets all of them are combat based and can be used a lot more strategicly in a battle.

[@siuuangel]

they definitely nerfed peter in my opinion

[@Fandom_Man]

@@siuuangel how

[@DeadFool321]

God this game was so disappointing. I was immediately suspicious when Peter tried to punch giant sandman in the face and was nearly killed until Miles saved him. Encapsulates pretty much everything the game would do wrong later on.

[@Trench-coat]

Fair point. Stop making Peter weak man... he is the OG!

[@dioncurtiscurtis3188]

No when MJ jumps to take a hit for spiderman.

[@eggshelf]

That fridge is the greatest Spiderman villain

[@Trench-coat]

@ bruh 🤣

[@RogueElement.]

Nhah f peter. Miles is better😂❤ lol​@@Trench-coat

[@johnrider4861]

Idk why I thought this was a video essay by a huge channel. This is super well made and your script was phenomenal. You’ll definitely be big if you keep it up! You have a great voice for this!

[@Trench-coat]

Thank you so much for the kind words! I'm glad you enjoyed the video and found the script engaging. Your support means a lot!

[@Zeus_Sama]

While i did enjoy this game, it did feel like they were crapping on Peter so they can put him aside. The early builds of Spidey 3 show Silk as a playable character and most likely Peter's replacement. They should have left the passing of the torch for part 3 and let Peter end his own trilogy

[@SimonSays021]

This is so true. Peter is getting pushed aside for legacy characters which sucks.

[@mvrtinxz650]

Peter is returning for part 3, Norman will bring him out of his “retirement”

[@quincyokafor6528]

A tweet I saw that I agreed with was that while gameplay in some apple td were great the dialogue seemed very pg and happy. Everything they added was like “how can we make this as inclusive as possible so people will like our game if the story doesn’t deliver.”

[@gabea3185]

the whole problem with this game is, the story ends in the exact same place it starts. no primary characters die/go through something life-changing in the story. that is something the first game did way better- having to fight doc ock, someone peter had an attachment to, and aunt may’s death, really showed that being spiderman comes with consequences. peter and miles don’t really face any consequences for their actions in the second game. besides making the whole third act of the story longer, i personally think they coulda went down a darker path with the story and made peter kill the lizard or kraven while under the symbiote, then at least him taking a break from superheroing would have more weight behind it. the traversal and the combat are great, the parry feature was definitely something i was glad they added, but they should not have removed peter’s gadget wheel, that was what made peter unique in comparison to miles- peter was able to rely on his gadgets while miles was able to rely on more brute force thru his electric powers

[@Trench-coat]

Yeah I tend to agree that the game doesn’t really move anything forward… in some areas it regresses.

[@Clone12319]

I think you didnt play the Game. Peter has Harry's father Norman now as a total enemy. This is some life changing moment for pete. As he is still a very powerfull figure in NYC and like a father Figure for Pete. Spider-Man 3 gonna be a very dramatic end for this trilogy for sure.

[@thecosmiccubing]

Wow, 1 year, I remember waking up for school and doing that sandman scene before I left, time flies

[@Trench-coat]

Such a cool opening for the game!

[@thecosmiccubing]

@Trench-coat it was, that game was a blast

[@Brotherjc26]

I wish the venom part was longer 😂 so much fun tearing thru everything

[@Trench-coat]

Lol it was pretty good

[@watchmehope6560]

Cut MJ and the deaf girl. Hell. Even miles could've been cut. Would've taken it for more venom

[@JustGo490]

On the next Insomniac Spider-man 3 they need improve on the game play mechanics and focus more on the story because that's what the second one was lacking it had too much going on all at once as where they should've made the symbiotic episodes a DLC instead of a main storyline

[@Trench-coat]

I completely agree! A more focused storyline would really enhance the overall experience. It’s always better when the game mechanics and narrative are well-balanced. I am worried that they will go to big for Spiderman 3 though...

[@Doodle-MeWasHere]

I think if they tried showing how the Aunt Mays death was making Peter already more agressive and unstable, making him more violent in gameplay without the suit in an effort to stop others from dying then the suit could be his solution by giving him unlimited webbing and stuff like that. While Peter tries to be a hero, have the symbiote take Peters body on its own adventures to help its host and in it's eyes: Their best friend. Despite this added advantage, have Kraven somehow hold the upper hand killing more villains than Peter or Miles could save together, further enfuriating Peter. Slowing down the symbiote arc to just even two weeks would also be enough to also crumple Harry and Peter's friendship enough to make a Venom that has a genuine reason for they're name when the symbiote feels betrayed and rejected just like Harry. I blame insomniac for not taking any comic writers on board the writing, because Venom is just a poor character and the black suit is that feeling you get when you eat a 6 star meal but is taken away from you after the first bite.

[@Trench-coat]

You should honestly be on the writing staff... such a great idea and I am actually surprised they didn't think of that.

[@DK_Vandaryn]

@@Trench-coatYou know what they also could have done as well? Show the symbiote in a sympathetic light, and how it wants to help people. For example, the flashback scene where Dr Connors first discovers the alien and it tries to bond with Connors. Show it from the Symbiotes perspective where it informs Peter “We never meant to hurt the doctor, we were just scared. We were banished to a planet we knew nothing about nor its inhabitants language, just for being different, for wanting to help instead of take. When he extended his hand to us, we thought he wanted to bond with us to help us, but then he started to panic and then they shot his arm off. Then they imprisoned us like “they” did.” After this Peter could ask the Symbiote if it truly wants to help people why didn’t it go back to Harry when it knew he was sick. “Because, being bonded to Harry felt like imprisonment. We did what we could only because we were both stuck in that tank but even we could not cure his disease permanently. While we were bonded to him we accessed his memories. Through him we saw your world, how beautiful it was, and then we saw “you” swinging through the city “free”, and saving lives. We knew if we ever got free we would do whatever it took to find you, and as luck would have you were best friends, but after we bonded with you, we realized of all the people you saved, “you” needed help the most. Here the symbiote sees the memories of how Peter failed to save the people he couldn’t save including Aunt May, and how he blames himself for not being faster, stronger, better. Then, it sees the memories of all the people including JJJ who blame Spider-Man for the cities problems and it infuriates the symbiote to the point where it cannot understand how someone who has saved so many lives, sacrificed so much could still be hated, vilified, just like it was on its home planet. Here the symbiote realizes he and Peter are kindred spirits, he feels that he and he alone can truly understand Peter and would do what it takes to help him and keep him safe.

[@Kenshin6321]

I agree and disagree on a lot of stuff. Let's start with the positives: 1.) The game looks beautiful. I found myself sometimes just sitting on top of all building and looking at the city. This has to be the best depicture of New York City in any video game ever. From the lighting, to how the glass on the sky scrapers reflect the sunlight, the water, it's all just spectacular. 2.) Combat is superior to the first game. The first game you could just spam all of your gadgets and win without even really doing anything. This game, your gadgets are mostly for crowd control, which makes combat more nuanced. I have some gripes about the combat I'll get into later. 3.) The web slinging is just fun. It's fast, it gives you a sense that you're really flying between the buildings. It's not perfect, like trying to do loops to gain speeds just feels random, but despite the flaws, it's still an excellent experience. By far the best part of the game in my opinion. Now, the bad: 1.) The narrative of this game makes no sense. There's too much crammed into too little time. Things that are supposed to feel impactful don't because everything feels rushed. For example, take the introduction of Craven. Remember the Sinister 6 from the first game? CRAVEN KILLS THEM OFF SCREEN! One of the coolest team of villains were essentially wrote off to try and demonstrate how powerful Craven is. Why didn't they show it? Lazy. Not only that, Craven then gets dispatched by Venom a few hours after he was introduced! Why? This feels like they couldn't think of anything interesting, so the only way to introduce a new main villain is by having them kill the old one. They did it with Sinister 6 dying to Craven, and then immediately with Craven dying to Venom. 2.) The combat is too easy. Take the guys with shields. Remember how in the first game you had to get behind them to do any real damage? Well now you can just glue them to a wall, or web kick right through them. There's no challenge, and everyone just devolves into being giant meat sticks. The purpose of skills should be to help unlock your creativity, not to literally remove difficulty from the game. 3.) There's no traversal content. By traversal content, I mean content with the sole purpose of testing you ability to traverse, besides following those stupid birds. Why aren't there any challenges? Obstacle courses? Races? With as great as the traversing is in this game, they could have added some bonus challenges to get you some extra exp or skill points, or heck, even some emotes for beating the challenge. Despite traversing being one of the highlights of the game, the game literally does nothing with it besides use it as a mechanism to get you from point A to B. Even Forspoken, as bad as a game as that was, has traversal challenges in the form of flashbacks that required you to complete an obstacle course within a certain time to acquire extra gear and resources. This is a huge missed opportunity. 4.) Lastly, you don't really feel like Spiderman. Sure, the web slinging and combat is fun, but it doesn't feel like you're Spiderman. Remember how in previous games, you would get extra points for helping people get out of dangerous situations? In this game, they don't do it organically. Basically, you beat up some thugs or monsters, then the game teleports an injured person to you and you need to move them from point A to B. You're not going around saving people unless it's scripted. You're not stopping accidents, you're not really being a hero, you're just reacting to danger in a scripted manner. Most of the things wrong with the game could be forgiven if the story wasn't so poor. A bad story amplifies the other things wrong with the game because a good story grabs your attention away from the flaws in the gameplay. For me, this game is a 6/10. I feel if you're a type of gamer that doesn't care much about the story, or engaging with the character you're playing as, then this game is perfect for you. If all you care about is combat and beating up bad guys, you'll like it. But if you're looking for an in-depth Spiderman experience, with a great story, great side content, awesome characters, and an experience that will be with you for years (like the first game), you'll be very disappointed. Also, the deaf girl communicating in emojis has to be the dumbest thing ever. For crying out loud, she could read lips, so it's not like she doesn't understand what people are saying. If anything, it dumbs down her character in favor of trying to be cute, which is stupid.

[@saturnitetoaster8310]

Really hope insomniac takes some notes from guys like you, I agree that the emotional depth as seen and felt in the first game wasn’t there and the side quests feel like build up to something that never arrives.

[@Trench-coat]

Thank you! In the end we all just want better stories in our games so yeah hopefully! Thanks for watching.

[@klaushammer8687]

Not sure what it is. But i don't see myself replaying this ever again Whereas I played the first one a few times, and will again someday I feel the story was rushed. A lot of villains were wasted. I think it was nice that Harry was Venom But after playing this, it got me thinking maybe I don't care for Venom as much as I thought

[@TheRealTrueDizzy]

i feel like story aside i still enjoy replaying the first more

[@Trench-coat]

Same!

[@mikeb53]

The MJ sections kill the enjoyment for me. Also the story is not the best sadly

[@TheTom20]

​@@mikeb53by this logic spider man 1 should be worse for you lol more MJ sections and way less interesting imo

[@mikeb53]

@@TheTom20 correct. The MJ "stealth" parts killed it for me. But it's not logic... customer feedback from the first game was overwhelming they didn't like the MJ bits. SM2 killing off electro, vulture, and shocker off screen was low... real low. They could have given us a mission as kraven hunting down the super villains instead. That'd be much better than those crappy OP mary jane sections. In my opinion of course...

[@kennylove5653]

Nice take bro. Who feels like Spiderman 2 was too short? I need a game longer than 15-20hrs?

[@Trench-coat]

Bro honestly the game was over so quickly. I was so disappointed by how fast it went by...I got the platinum trophy in like 16hrs.

[@kennylove5653]

@@Trench-coat Yeah mane. I stopped playing it when Harry became Venom bcus I just knew we were getting the PS5 Pro & the DLC. I wanted to savior the taste. Total L.

[@baki484]

I wouldn't say length was the problem. The time was wasted. We could've gotten more scenes and bossfight against with venom but they opted to remove it for MJ missions and time wasting side quests like the BVA or the music side missions. I'd cut those for a meaty story.

[@kennylove5653]

@@Trench-coat Yeah & then for them not to release any DLC killed it. I’m sure they had some DLC coming but cancelled it.

[@kennylove5653]

@@baki484 For me it was but if they would have put out some DLC with a solid 10-15 hours. I wouldn’t have any complaints. Insomniac not having any DLC for Spiderman 2 is cap cuz I’m sure they scrapped it. They didn’t say it wasn’t any DLC til a year later.

[@regalsamyt1849]

I had only three issues with the game: 1. Lack of side content. It was easy and yet somehow a bit boring to get through, except the Flame side missions, Symbiote Nests and Hunter bases. 2. Lack of gadgets. There were only four and, while I did like pairing them with the abilities, I really wanted the Trip Mine or others from the first game. 3. The last half of the story. The first half was peak with the exception of Kraven beating the Six in the background and Agent Venom's lack of screen time. The first few missions of the second act felt like they were pushing for a deeper narrative... and then they blitzed the last bit with boss fight after boss fight. The third act was a mess and, after five playthroughs of the story, I beliece Venom was a bit mid with his motives.

[@Trench-coat]

I literally agree with everything you said! 100% spot on.

[@CharZy-y8v]

I do have to say, I think the OST in this game is actually superior to the first one. John Paesano truly gave his all for this one. I believe many of the emotional moments land even harder (at least for the 2/3 of the game) because of his score.

[@Trench-coat]

Great point… the music is fantastic!

[@TheTom20]

I love all three Insomniac Spider Man games but spider man 1 still has the best story for me, but I must say that part of the story where after Peter being a bully and Miles vs Mr Negative boss fight we have Peter destroying hunters and Kraven, Peter vs Miles and then freaking Venom misson that ends with Venom killing Kraven and all of this combined with really great soundtrack this game has IS PEAK 10/10 imo

[@lourencogp869]

Insane video quality, keep it up bro

[@Trench-coat]

I really appreciate your kind words! It means a lot to know the effort is paying off.

[@willytjr1]

2 makes it hard to play 1, but 1 makes it hard to watch 2. Too many uncooked plates brought to the table.

[@Trench-coat]

@@willytjr1 that is such a cool way to describe it… hope you don’t mind when I steal that line lol 🤣

[@mathiasegg28]

Am I the only one who thinks the story makes perfect sense

[@Trench-coat]

It makes perfect sense, it’s just a little rushed. Maybe add 5hrs of extra contact to flesh out the narrative then it would have been near perfect.

[@Spyalwayswins]

I completely disagree with literally all of your negatives for the game, the ending is a bit rushed but it isn’t as bad as you are saying it is, the gadget wheel would be nice to have but then the spider arms are something Peter made because of his intellect and it adds a bit more life rather than just punching and using webs

[@bentleysportraits]

Spiderman 2 was great

[@Dbonesburneraccount]

Sorry guys I gotta jump off the bandwagon for this hot take: The spider arms are really cool&make Peter’s gameplay way more fun. Maybe I’m not enough of an old head but spraying mfs with webs on every combo just doesn’t feel super fun after 20 minutes. That’s why I don’t think red suit Spider-Man from web of shadows can’t be topped,he was moving like Bruce lee while having variety on his web combos.

[@Trench-coat]

Totally get what you’re saying! The new stuff can be fun, but there's just something about that classic Spider-Man vibe that hits different.

[@Gwalk6767]

7/10 i think is being nice but its a fair score. The game is fun to play, but not to complete. The story is fine too, it's just very short and yeah the lows are very low. It just feels like the game is missing a whole two acts in the story. We paid 70 bucks for an unfinished product.

[@jarmoliebrand2005]

I have referred to this game a lot as a ‘moments game’. There are many great moments in isolation, but they could’ve been better if there was more setup.

[@spslayer9113]

Fellow South African here. First time I’m coming across one of your videos, heard your accent and it was an instant ‘Subscribe’ for me 💪🏽 keep it up

[@Trench-coat]

Thank you so much! Glad another South African is here 🇿🇦

[@donovanbowman8157]

This game could’ve been much more. Abilities were nice but I still feel like the 3rd act could’ve been better, well and the 2nd. Peter doesn’t get big boss fights in his default mode. He should’ve actually fought Kraven at some point, and it’s obvious he holds back and that’s why he loses. Then when you get the suit and fight, Kraven sees how a beast has legitimately been set free. Instead, bro stabs you and gets beaten up by a man with a black suit, then sees you with the suit and is like “what are you?” Like he not even interested in us fr, but instead the symbiote. It would give way more credibility to “and still you hold back” Then Venom.. so man yes the fake out and us playing as him was fire but I wanted to fight him in base form. Maybe we get thrown through the pipes still. Rampage through Oscorp. Once we escape into Times Square, Miles sees the tv like “tf going on?” We switch to his POV to swing there and try to save the hunters/civis, then Pete wakes up to help Miles and BOOM, fight through the city (like teased before) Kraven wants his glory so once Venom deals with Miles, Kraven incapacitates Peter with some tranq or something (idk) and we watch as he eats Kraven. Something to show how feral he is. This is just me spitballing but something could’ve happened

[@Jeanssj98]

its probably the best spider man game along the first one though

[@afewthreads1460]

Whoever says they dont like co op in their single player games have clearly never played the warriors

[@konohashinobi89]

Im sorry man but how tha hell do you only have 1900 subs?! I was 100% expecting you to have over 1 million subscribers based on the quality of the video. You have a new sub for sure here! Keep doing your thing 💪

[@Trench-coat]

Thank you so much! Glad to have you here.

[@walethegreat]

I haven't played the game because i dont have a ps5, but I've seen the ending. From the ending alone, it's easy to see that the story on Spiderman 2 was held back for the finale being Spiderman 3. It's a solid 8/10 for me from what I've seen. The third one is what would dictate the whole series for me. As far as im concerned, it's like into the spiderverse. Across the spiderverse isn't as good as into the spiderverse because of the third trilogy that's coming up.

[@FreshFinzyy]

I honestly really really enjoyed this game, but the story felt rushed yet it felt like the pacing was very very slow. Aswell as the sidemissions, Spider-Man 1 was ahead of its time! I waited till last week to start it, and i just finished it about half an hour ago, new game+ & two 100% playtroughs. I hope Spider-Man 3 comes up with something interesting, i'm still very hyped tho!

[@Trench-coat]

It's great to hear you enjoyed the game! I totally get what you mean about the pacing and story-it's a fine line they walk. I am super excited for Spider-Man 3 but also nervous that they go to big!

[@Drdanger00]

1 year later. Still waiting to Its Pc release

[@carlwajihassaf8219]

Man I've never seen peter parker so useless as in this game, like they want to push him out so badd try and hide it better

[@watchmehope6560]

Peter got manhandled by a fridge 😭

[@oneautumnleaf2622]

in Terms of Design/Origin/Story my fav version of Venom is actually Ultimate (comics) I loved the fact that Venom was technically blood related to peter/eddie since it was there parents blood dna used to create the symbiote. and the thought of creating a cure for cancer and creating something like venom as a result is incredibly terrifying to where science can take us when things go wrong.

[@metaphoric9479]

What a great video. Well summarized! 💪

[@Trench-coat]

Glad you liked it!

[@tenkskun]

Spider man games need to be 50 hours plus of story if we are only getting one game every 4 years

[@Trench-coat]

The game should've been longer to accommodate the grander story or the story should've been more simple. The first game had an amazing story with the same length. It's all about the execution.

[@Anquanpoole459]

No, it doesn't, buddy I go for quality over quantity this game would have been trash if it was longer

[@MrSecretweapon174]

Eyy my South African KZbinrs making video essays on gaming. Im here for all of it

[@Trench-coat]

Gotta represent bro....thanks for the love!

[@mattmysterious866]

Amazing video , needs more subs

[@Trench-coat]

I appreciate that! Sharing helps 🙌🏻 Thanks for watching.

[@xtruezy]

The thing with these games is that they are way too short and once you done, there is nothing to do

[@Trench-coat]

@@xtruezy yeah I also hate how dead the game feels once the story is finished…

[@dymoure]

A game with the Symbiote and Black Cat with minimal relationship drama is such a huge missed opportunity. MJ and Peter are in the exact same place in the beginning and the end of the game, which I found kind of boring for Spider-Man.

[@Trench-coat]

That’s a great point! The relationship is rather boring.

[@WetTipss]

It’s upsetting to me that SM3 will most likely have both SM be even more advanced. I want my Spider-Man grounded as they possibly can be.

[@Trench-coat]

I 100% agree. That’s why I prefer the first game as well. I preferred the more grounded Peter and his more realistic gadgets.

[@SoyReneAntonio]

I agree with you on everything, it’s sad that this game could have been better, hopefully the final chapter won’t disappoint, great video! ❤

[@Trench-coat]

Thank you for watching!

[@gamebarstequipe]

Ngl saying it's the best Venom is a bit crazy, since imo it's one of his worst adaptations, especially since his personality is basically non existent, but outside of that it's a great video and I pretty much agree with everything.

[@Trench-coat]

I certainly don’t mean best venom in general, I just mean in motion picture/gaming. Comics obviously have way better renditions of the character. I also meant more in a visual sense than in a character sense. This venom looks incredible. Thanks for watching!

[@thatonefoofrumlongbe]

They meant aesthetic wise. Which it is, but like you said everything else did not meet the standard. They lost so much potential with this game, they would rather focus on MJ being a Girl boss, then Venom. The dev did this purposely and it pissed me off. He didn't like the criticism of SM1, so he doubled down on things the fan did not like, and even taunted the fans about it in an interview.

[@killforskill_bla5441]

I'm furious that they weakened Peater so much in spider man 2018 he was a bad ass he fought all these villains he was just very strong but in spider man 2 he seems terribly weak and Miles being spider man for a year (I don't remember if it was definitely a year) is a better spiderman than SPIDER MAN in my opinion the story would have been better without Miles or at least they could have not made Peater so weak. What do you think about that?

[@Loaf_B]

my guy he lost aunt may and he's physically and mentally exhausted from being spiderman and having all these responsibilities, he needs a break which he got in spiderman 2

[@eapen7297]

​@@Loaf_Bwhat are you talking about he can't get physically exhausted and also he Spider sense should be better but it's not

[@Loaf_B]

@@eapen7297 "He can't get exhausted, he's spider man!!!" *hes a literal human being with superpowers, he still has feelings* If you played the game you should've noticed he's just not as energized, his spider sense still works but he's caught by surprise more often which can easily be attributed to distraction, anxiety and etc due to all the stress he's going through with his best friend, MJ, and the symbiote Hell the theme of spiderman 2 is LITERALLY PETER doubting himself as a spiderman, he's not fit to be one, he's getting slow, falling behind etc... With the symbiote all of that was technically fixed, he's stronger, faster and now almost on par with Miles (minus the aggressive nature of the suit) But even so, he's still tired and needs a break from being spiderman and allow others to shine (Miles and possibly Silk), though he'll probably still remain the main spiderman just not as the main focus

[@killforskill_bla5441]

@@Loaf_B I'm afraid ur gonna be right

[@Loaf_B]

@@killforskill_bla5441 Hopefully he won't be shadowed in future games, which probably won't happen if we get a standalone game for silk but hopefully they know what they're doing with pete taking a "break" again

[@baki484]

Going into spiderman 2 I was expecting the game to be the arkham city (still the best superhero game as far as I'm concerned) of its series and it doesn't. The first game lived up to my excitement and it's very good and it was the foundation just as Asylum was for Batman but. Miles morales was moving in the right direction but this game was a letdown. Spiderman 2's stealth is worse somehow, the combat is missing the suit and visor mods, suit powers and gadgets are worse versions of the previous ones. The only good thing is the traversal and it's still lacking feature games like web of shadows allowing spiderman to run in any direction on the wall. I shouldn't have pre-ordered this one and got the RE4 remake and Deadspace remake. The games only cost 600 rands each at BT games and I would've saved 200 (I assume you're South African with accent). I agree about venom and Kraven being the best visually and the VAs did an amazing job but I was hoping they'd be stalkers who pounce out of nowhere like taskmaster did in the first game but Kraven was mostly a Gladiator. 6/10 after my second playthrough.

[@Trench-coat]

Yeah I feel you. I kinda also wished they would pounce on us in the open world like in Arkham knight with the vampire bat. Ps - Dead space remake is phenomenal. I'll do a years later on it as well.

[@Anquanpoole459]

Arkham city is overrated

[@elih.3093]

It's not going to surprise me if the devs reveal something in December.. Even though they have said they have nothing planned currently....could they make a Directors Cut or a SM2.5? Maybe. As for suits? They haven't said no to that....I have a couple ideas for some suit packs I'm hopeful for the devs to add, id even pay actual cash for this too... A Legacy Suit Pack(all the remaining suits from the first two games, also adding in Spider-Cop) A Spiderverse Suit Pack 1 Yr Anniversary Suit Pack(a hoodie version of the evolved suit with black/red style for miles, human spider suit/vigilante suit for peter, vampire hunter/wakanda suit from the recent comics, ultimate spider-man(1610 and 6160).. A Sinister Six inspired Suits for Peter and Miles A Prowler Inspired suit for Peter Iconic/Classic Suits from the Avengers Game for Peter As always, keep up the delightful work! 😊😊👍👍

[@Trench-coat]

That would be awesome...

[@elih.3093]

Oh yes it would be! 👍😊

[@watchmehope6560]

I can't believe they revealed something In December! 5 expansions and 30 new dlcs. 😭😞

[@yomismo83]

Great video as usual. I disagree, however in some points, but I understand your critics. I loved the combat. It's intense and dynamic. I personally hated the way of using the gadgets in 1, I didn't use them a lot, but in 2 I was constantly using them. It was very fun. About the story, I didn't feel it rushed, but very intense, specially the last third part of the game. Everything was urgency and trying to make things right in a tragic context. On the other hand, I think that 1 was better balanced than 2 in terms of pace. Another thing I consider far better in 2 than in 1 is all the secondary stuff. In 1 it just was there, but in 2 I felt it mattered. And the movement across the city is just THE thing in this game. Let's hope when in Insomniac said there is no DLC planned for the game they just mean that there is another standalone product like Miles Morales game. But I don't know. They must be very busy with Wolverine. I agree about that when you say there are some things that feel some kind of incomplete. We will see for 3. Congratulations for the great job!

[@Trench-coat]

Thanks for the comment. Glad to hear you overall enjoyed the pacing of the story. Can’t wait to see what they do with Wolverine!

[@McGalahad]

Bro, Miles trying to get to 1st base with Haley during a literal apocalypse is the opposite of urgency.

[@KrypticSpiderMan]

​@McGalahad but what ensues immediately after is. It is an awkward pause tho.

[@yomismo83]

@@McGalahad I didn't remember that XD. Yeah, It's weird. But I keep in mind all that part like I had to fight and save the city with no stops. I trully loved the last hours of the game.

[@kool-breez]

I loved Spider-Man 2

[@Trench-coat]

I quite enjoyed it too

[@mrlionsfan1135]

This game was the reason i bought a PS5. It was my 2nd platinum..i platinumed the original that got remastered for PS5. I loved this game.. not as much as the first game. Narratively speaking the first game is much stronger than the second. The second tries to do too many things. And feels rushed. It feels emptier Than the first somehow Even tho the map is larger. I still enjoyed the story and i adore the cast and characters. I still think the first one was much stronger

[@Trench-coat]

First one is the best but I love the visuals of the second one even more! The traversal gameplay is so fluid .

[@mrlionsfan1135]

@Trench-coat the web wings make the game. For me. Outside of that it doesn't do to much better than the first one. Removing the gadget wheel was egregious lol

[@Trench-coat]

@@mrlionsfan1135 I literally go back to the first game just to have the weapon wheel again lol

[@WillemvanderPijl]

The game was awesome, the gameplay was exactly what I wanted. But they had to kick Peter down to make Miles stronger and that made the last impression I got from this game, not a good one

[@supremecarnage5071]

An excellent thumbnail concept would be a recreation of the Spider-Man 3 poster featuring the red and black suited Spider-Man hanging upside down, mirroring his reflection. Furthermore, the design should incorporate high-quality details reminiscent of Spider-Man 2.

[@kylel.4419]

The game is visually perfect. The swinging and fighting gameplay is also perfect. What’s unfortunate abt this game is how damn repetitive the cross between Peter and miles gets. And argue or not, Peter should be much more focused on than miles, and I feel like they tried too hard to balance the two. Miles story is so annoying and boring, while Peter’s is incredibly entertaining. As a whole, I think the double narrative drags the story down as a whole and I can’t see the story any better than barely above average.

[@Trench-coat]

Double the narrative yet the runtime is shorter than the first… it makes no sense. They needed more runtime for the campaign.

[@MightMouse2174]

Terrible Anti Venom suit is a Reed Richards kind of stretching

[@niv6921]

Amazing video, i actually agree with everything you said. The game was dissppointing, it took a while to realize because we were too hyped

[@Trench-coat]

Thank you for watching! Yeah the hype for this game was unreal.

[@niv6921]

Keep on going, you got a great talent, the start is always slow but keep on pusing forward because you got this, good luck :)​@@Trench-coat

[@Trench-coat]

@@niv6921 appreciate it!!!

[@TheSsj4boy]

did he just say insomniac became a household name off of spiderman ???

[@Trench-coat]

I did… and they did

[@WaitingToBeAGhost]

​@@Trench-coat They were a household name as far back as the Spyro games. This is just what they are mostly known for in recent years.

[@Obsidian-10101]

Not forgetting the Ratchet&clank and resistance franchises. But sure spiderman made it a household name!

[@X31F]

​@WhiteDireWolf_217 a household name doesn't mean it wasnt successful prior to spiderman but it means that even the average person or a casual fan knows the name insomniac now. Much like naughty dog became a household name after the last of us but it wasn't less successful before it, it just soared to massively renowned levels.

[@BATGOAT1992]

I still love this game fight me.

[@Trench-coat]

I enjoy it as well tbh… so no one is gonna fight you 🤣

[@blackvalio4060]

Where you wanna fight

[@vatrex_alnare]

10/10 game for me

[@Trench-coat]

@@vatrex_alnare awesome!!!

[@AuroraTheGalaxy]

They could have had either kraven bonding with symbiote, which could have given peter a bigger reason to kill both of them, or they could have had eddie brock in the game

[@shadowone01x99]

Had a superb mindblowing time playing this game. Easily strong 8.3/10 for me.

[@Trench-coat]

Awesome! I’m looking forward to replaying it on the PS5 pro!

[@CanadianBongRipper]

I thought the story was so much better in Spider-Man 2. I personally really didn't like the Mr. Negative story in Spider-Man 1

[@Trench-coat]

I understand that…I felt the first game had a more satisfying and well paced conclusion when compared to the second game

[@blackvalio4060]

Im sorry but this venom is probably one of the worst we have ever seen.

[@Anquanpoole459]

Might be high as hell cuz this venom was rip right out the comics but with some original

[@blackvalio4060]

@Anquanpoole459 you talk only about visuals i talk about character. This is maybe the worst venom we have ever seen

[@Anquanpoole459]

@@blackvalio4060 venom is literally the same in the comics wtf are you talking about

[@SonnySantana2099]

Anti venom suit is great. Love it overhated

[@gogetathestrongestfusion]

I am not gonna lie the Symbiote Spider Man fight while cool in narrative might as well be the worst in gameplay aspects, in fact so many things are broken in that boss it’s ridiculous like webbing up Peter actually makes you immune to all his attacks he be attacking you but shootings webs makes you completely immune, Web Throwing Peter is odd too a lot of animations weren’t meant for him so when you web throw him Peter will also be doing the web throw animations making it look kinda silly, he has a lot of basic thug animations too that I found recently as yes Peter will pull out a godamm combat knife to free himself from webbing if you time with photomode and look up close spider man will be holding a knife when he breaks out of the webs things like this show how rush this boss fight actually and how it’s one of the easiest in the series too the bell just adds on to it even more on how easy it can get, I genuinely hate this boss in the gameplay aspects of things.

[@brianwilcox1686]

In my opinion, I feel like what they’ve should’ve done, was obviously do the symbote storyline kraven and the effects the suit has on peter, then for marvel’s spider-man 3 have the back half of this game play out, just so everything doesn’t feel rushed, then for Marvel’s Spider-man 4 they can do green goblin and dock Oct but I understand why they wanted to do a trilogy and not 4 games

[@Trench-coat]

Yeah I think keeping it a trilogy is better but they needed to make this game longer.

[@SawdEndymon]

The saddest thing: it’s gonna be another generation at *BEST* before we get another Spider-Man/Venom story. *And I don’t mean generation like game console, I mean generation as in a literal generation of people.*

[@Smoky992]

I think expectations were met however people became used to insomniac going above and beyond which is probably why it feels like it’s missing something

[@TheRealRiptide01]

Expectations were NOT met lmao.

[@Trench-coat]

Expectations were somewhat met… I think an additional 5hrs of gameplay and story would have made it perfect.

[@DinoDave150]

We all thought this would be the next Arkham City, but it ended up being the next Arkham Origins: a follow-up that, while a good time regardless, doesn't feel like it innovated a whole lot given the time and budget given to it.

[@Trench-coat]

And Arkham Origins has a way better story tbh lol - I should do a video on it!

[@baki484]

But origins was only meant hold gamers over for arkham knight. Origins only made tweaks to the already successful arkham city while adding unique wrinkles like the unique enemy types, the emphasis on bossfights testing specific game mechanic without castrating the system. The devs in game informer interview said they weren't aiming to reinvent the wheel. Miles Morales is the origins of the series and spiderman 2 is a disappointing sequel that took away more than it added. Unlike the arkham series adding and refining with every sequel from gameplay standpoint

[@cliffordgardner7975]

I loved the game, they took some stuff away that made it MUCH harder than i thought and as infuriating it was sometimes, i was there for it. Kraven was a FUCKING MENACE he had NO BUSINESS being that big of pain in the ass but still, im there for it he made me really think on the go. Venom was a MONSTER, i kinda felt that his fight with Kraven was a bit too long since he was supposed to be such a monster, he shouldve bodied Kraven given how powerful he was/felt. Now there was some cringe in the story but there are always ups and downs, i like that miles and peter face their demons and learning to get past it was REALLY good plus i like how peter takes a bit of a back seat as he starts becoming peter more than spiderman.

[@Trench-coat]

Glad you enjoyed it bro!

[@Vman_95]

I feel like they jumbled up so many things in sequel, 2 spidermen stories, kraven, venom's whole web of shadows thing in the end. And those boring science missions. They made city 2x bigger than first one yet you fight same 4 factions in it, in main game story, side missions and random crimes and 5th symbiote faction in the end game that's it 😅

[@Trench-coat]

@@Vman_95 post game the world feels even less alive than the first game did… which is awful! 🤣

[@Fizmoneyglo]

I think people need to understand that SONY still makes Spider-Man films, and we haven’t even tapped into Tom Hollands Black Suit Arc. They probably have so many great ideas that they would rather save and plan for the big screen so they can keep some original Black Suit stories/motivations for Tom that would be new and fresh. I personally feel that Spider-Man 2018 made the Tom Holland trilogy step up in terms of A) Storytelling ( Homecoming was good but still very SAFE and backed by MCU shit ) : B) FFH implemented the White spider which has never been seen UNTIL Insomniacs version : C) NWH went back to a familiar Spider-Man type story and tone, which btw came after the adoration for Spider-Man PS4. Hell they even rescanned Peter’s face to even resemble Tom Holland since he’s this generations DEFINITIVE Spider-Man, which so happens to come out around the times of these movies. Just my 2 cents💯

[@Trench-coat]

Tbh I hope they don't do black suit with Tom. I have had my fill and it's never been done well enough. They always try to overcomplicate it.

[@WunnaFlow-l5i]

does anybody know what song he used at 19:15 ive been looking everywhere

[@Trench-coat]

Part of the Spiderman 1 ost on KZbin!

[@mikeb53]

TL:DR version; Insomniac fumbled the ball with Venom, and it started with the first game. And S-M2 is very overrated. I think Spider-Man 2 is a big improvement in terms of game play and traversal, and combat, they did make some serious improvements there. I know a lot were questioning where is my web wheel and I feel the similar. One of the best gadgets in the first game was the trip mine. So helpful during combat and stealth sections. No sign of it. I will say though that minimising the gadgets was the better option as lets face it, Batman has a utility belt and Spider-Man doesn't even have pockets on his suit so I guess him having less gadgets is more real? So from a gameplay perspective its pretty good, but the web wings seem to be TOO good if you know what I mean, but that's a minor gripe. Speaking of gameplay... lets talk Mary Jane. Despite overwhelming customer feedback from the first game, where nearly everybody said that they hated the MJ stealth parts, despite that, Intihar put them back into the sequel, and then, double downed on them! They made Mary Jane as OP as required, where she's able to deal with trained killers as easily as Solid Snake would have. AND, she was able to evade/run from the Symbiote in the tunnel chase sequence. You can't even say Pete was "holding back" for that, because he was literally fast asleep, almost comatose. But somehow, MJ got away! And her plot device taser got upgraded to make her even more OP. Where, with it, she was good enough to fight symbiotes! AND she was involved heavily in the final showdown with Venom. When I am in the finale of a game, where the boss fight is happening, I did not want to be playing as MJ! Intihar clearly trolled everybody with this, and playing as MJ adds, almost, NOTHING to the story. The only thing it adds is when she is chased by Symbiote Spidey, that is the one and only thing playing as MJ contributes to your enjoyment, other than that, dead loss. If they wanted MJ in this game series to be sneaky and a bit of a Solid Snake, then why the hell didn't they make her a SHIELD agent or something?! News paper reporters who spend a bit of time in Symkaria don't have skills like this! Of course Miles has more powers than Peter does, he has his "zappy pops" as Rhino calls it, and he's got invisibility, plus he has ALL the gadgets peter has access to, and the "basic spider powers" too. At the start of the game they gave Peter those Spider arms to try and give him more ability but it just feels like nonsense. At the end of the last game Peter was unemployed and totally broke. Where did he get the money or facilities to make those things? I know he's resourceful and what not, but to make stuff like that would require resources and equipment that he just doesn't have. And if they hadn't gave Peter those stupid arm things, they could have tied that into the story, where Peter feels that Miles is a better Spider-Man than he is and gives real credence to the "I need this suit, it makes me a better Spider-Man" remark he says later. Now in my TLDR summary I said they fumbled Venom, and I stand by that. I know a lot of people loved the Insomniac black suit, but I didn't like it. I'm glad they gave the option of the Classic comic black suit, but you have to wait till level 50 to unlock it, which is a kicker! The classic suit looked sleek from a distance like a normal costume but up close you see it shimmers and moves over his body. That is my personal preferences, and I do think the insomniac black suit is overrated too. But the story is definitely eye rolling bad in some cases. Several examples include Peter getting annoyed about a gun club/shooting range. Harry installing a "Diverse board" for the Emily May Foundation as oppose to you know, a competent board with the right knowledge and skills, the Miles side mission where you help a gay classmate ask his boyfriend out for prom. (Why couldn't Miles have y'know... saved them from a Hunter attack, or something, why did this mission even exist?!) And last but not least, Dr Connors - a decorated scientist and researcher - touching an unknown alien substance WITH NO PROTECTIVE CLOTHING OR TOOLS!!! But the MOST irritating, eye rolling part, is Miles and his "college essay" its 500 words Miles!! 500. That's it. Dude could literally cut and paste it from online, or let Ganke do it. Yet they made this into some big deal which drags on throughout the entire game! I realise Miles is meant to be relatable. But stone me! Miles and Ganke code and make AI like its nothing pair of them have massive intelligence, they couldn't AI that? ChatGPT doesn't exist in this universe? No copilot! Seriously! I'm not even finished on the story yet, the story is basically Web of Shadows in HD. Which would have been ok, but, I wouldn't have had this "heal the world" crap in, that was probably a lot to do with Sweet Baby, and its a mess. They'd have been better off using the symbiote as a means to create medication for Harry, rather than have him wear it first. I would have had Peter get the symbiote, somehow, fairly early in Act 1 as well, and have removal of it at the start of Act 3 and then it goes to Harry. The medication side effect on Harry would be it would give him super strength, and speed and agility but it wears off. I would have Peter reveal to Harry he is Spider-Man, I would have upped the Harry is jealous of Peter thing, have Peter and Norman getting closer and closer so Harry gets more and more jealous and angry to Peter, also Peter and Miles needed to be more closer than we had, so Harry can be jealous of Miles and Peter's relationship, because Peter takes Miles with him to save the day and not Harry even though Harry has got temp powers and this makes him mad. So then when Harry gets the symbiote and becomes Venom you get a more emotionally charged 3rd Act IMHO. These are just bullet points as what I as a Spider-Man fan long term from the 80's to now would like to have seen. And yes, I would have had Harry die in Act 3, 100%. There needed to be consequences. serious ones, and there just wasn't. Everybody survived, well... except some iconic supervillains which were killed off camera! What an absolute travesty that Shocker and Vulture died off camera... Speaking of supervillains, I'd have definitely used Kraven and had him hunt the villains, and have Spider-Man try to save said villains and fail, this would be one key reason he doesn't want to take off the symbiote. Anyway, I think that's enough typing now. I'll end there.

[@thatonefoofrumlongbe]

Surprised you mentioned the dev doubling down on MJ, and also mentioning that he taunted the fans because they gave him criticism that nobody liked it. I almost don't want to buy it watching that clip in the interview. He shouldn't had worked on the game. He focused on MJ being a girl boss, instead of focusing on Venom. How could they had fumbled this bad when they have Venom?! Underwhelming, and disappointing. SM1 was pretty overrated imo. Older games were better, but SM1 was well crafted. I just think it's very boring.

[@thatonefoofrumlongbe]

Omg Web of shadows was peak Venom! Also harry... Yeah that was so dumb, that part was good until they ruined it, once again removing consequences. I hate bad writing that's afraid to make bold decisions, leaving the story with no consequences, feeling like nothing really mattered!

[@thatonefoofrumlongbe]

TLOU SPOILER. The last of Us. You know something i hate about TLOU is that Joel never dies in TLOU1 , when everything about the writing suggested he was going to die. They were scarred of killing him. The writing did not make sense that ellie stitched him back to recovery. I always felt like they needed to introduce a new character just to stitch him back together, but a 12 year old was enough to keep him from dying from a fatal injury. I lost it! I would've preferred the fatal consequence of that scene. The impact it would've had. Ellie would had felt the guilt. 😢. I knew i hated the game when ellie miraculously fixed him. I was so done! Just bad writing, because again, they did a great Job that Joe wasn't going to make it. I hate how people say it was a good story. It's not terrible, but there's better writing in other stories/movies, miles ahead. Not to mention TLOU 2 reinforces my idea in the worst way! They did it early on. They saved him in TLoU1 when he should've died just to push the plot in TLoU2. He was just a plot device and had plot armor simply for that reason. They disrespected the fans. I like, plot twist, but it wàs too much of a stretch... I'm not a fan of TLoU btw. I probably would had still played TLoU2 if they hadn't, but yeah, I'm ok.

[@ericjohnson5990]

Personally, I don’t think the anti-venom suit was a bad idea, even though it looks like toothpaste. However, I think the execution could’ve gone a lot better.

[@Trench-coat]

Haha accurate description

[@Victorcolongarcia]

9/10. One of the best games on playstation 5. The only gripe for me is too much combat. I like more exploration or platforming and there’s not enough for me here. But everything is top-notch

[@baki484]

Jedi survivor is the game for you.

[@BeezyGamer]

i might come off like an edge lord lmao but they literally had the perfect chance to have him earn that black suit if he had failed to save those people at the fair. i wonder if it was even discussed at all as a possibility. also great video btw i like how you word things everything flows 👍

[@Trench-coat]

Thank you for watching! I agree that would've been a great way to introduce it.

[@ilytyypa]

Jesus bru… I can tell you’ve put weeks and weeks into these essays and yet only have 1k subs?? Todays society only cares about SPEED & Kai cenant troll content 😢😢

[@Trench-coat]

Appreciate the love bro! Slow growth but growing. I'll always make quality over quantity.

[@nitrotoxiccc2112]

should I save my money for spider man 2 pc or just buy the first one? I've played them all on ps but I want to use mods lol

[@joelgarcia3907]

Loved the first game. Bored with the miles follow up but it was still a good game. Was ready to not like part 2 but found myself having a lot of fun…..until the obvious plot became much more disappointing as you progressed. It just didn’t feel like the venom arc at all. It was a one dimensional take on venom. The hunter had so much potential as well. Nothing less fun as beating up a boss that wants to die.

[@foleywallace459]

I adored the first, enjoyed the second. Won’t buy a third if it follows the trend. Never liked venom, and certainly didn’t like more Miles, MJ and obscure unnecessary Miles missions.

[@czms922]

Remember how stubborn the stans were about this game

[@kingstonmclean4205]

The fact Peter got bodied more than 3 times this game is and weighed down by a fridge is so frustrating, like why nerf him to make miles look superior? I like this miles iteration for the most part but even fighting venom Peter gets bodied but miles takes him down and all Peter does is say “Harry!” for the last act

[@Trench-coat]

Yeah its painfully obvious that they are nerfing Peter. They gotta stop that.

[@marcusclark1339]

14:20 cause the goal of the series and insomniac is to write Peter out its a spiderman game hating its main lead same reason he's so gimped and doesn't get all his suits to balance out to miles its just so bad

[@TadeuCunhaMiranda]

What is "One Ye Later"?

[@Trench-coat]

One Year Later...

[@TadeuCunhaMiranda]

@Trench-coat I was just goofing but thank you nonetheless 😄

[@Elto_Gaming]

Are you a fan of survival horror? If so, you should review alien isolation, would be cool to see your thoughts on it

[@Trench-coat]

I love survival horror, but I scare so easily haha - I still have to check isolation out so I’ll definitely do that, thanks for the recommendation!

[@pansnemesis]

Wait so it's confirmed theres no DLC? if so that's a shame, there's so much that could be done

[@Trench-coat]

Yeah… its very sad. This game had so much potential.

[@rye7839]

I cant say im a big fan of the disney channel/CW vibes to the story

[@Trench-coat]

Yeah it’s way to light

[@lassegrotkjr6326]

I agree Big time on the gatget part of this video, using gatget was problebly my favorite part of the combat, in the first game, and they were that because of how Well crafted and unik they each were, i could forgive Miles morales fore not giving us that many, because story wise he had just started, he wassent at the point of having a good selection yet, it fith him, and it made op fore it by introducing the element of venon abilitis (not the villan Venon, but the energi they named venon when it were introduced) and invisibility during stealth, but in Spiderman 2 its a lov point too few people talk about, because there to busy complaining about other things in the game. They isentioly removed all the previus fun gatgets, to instead give us Four new ones thats no were near as fun to use, or even fell creatively made, trust me im all fore new things, but not if i have to loss old and good things to get it, and fore what? There may have been people who said ✌️Spider man shouldent have that many gatget’s, because that makes him too much like Batman✌️ or something like that, but those were a small minority, you shouldent remove a core part of your games identity because of that, i mean come on, and while yes there were also a bigger amount of people who Said they dident like how you had to change what gatget to have equipt during battle, and while yes on that point i can understand it, as i too found it anoing sometimes, but i have a thing to say about that, that really isent hatting on the gatgets, thats hating on the system around the gatgets, a flawt system that this game coincedently presented a perfeckt alternative potientialy better system fore if they had gone thoug with it, a new gatget whell, that gave you Four slots at once, but not acces to all of them at the same time, they could easily have taken those early gatgets, and workt them into this new system, on top of that it dosent work story narrative wise, because following the story narrative, Peter has gotten slower and more tired over the years, why would he get rid of something so helpfull to his job, when he is at this State in his Spider man career. I know they have said in interview’s that they removed them because they made you too overpowert, but i personaly dont buy that, when your clearly capeple of taken enemies Down really fast using wathever of the abilitie moves your charekter has, this fackt actually leads me to belive that that is something there just saying to not reveal the real reason there doing it, they dident want the gatgets to overshadow the simbiote abilitys, wich if true, i Think a better sollution would have been to have Them become ekstra powerfull, when you have the simbiote on, like the simbiote is putting parts of itself into them, to make Them more effektive, image if you use the trip mine while you have a simbiote on, and the mine (with Black tendrels) takes multiple people around onto/into eachother, this way the gatgets dossent overshadow the simbiote, but shows the usefulness of it. On the spider arms, i actually dont dislike Them, i found Them cool, my biggest problems with Them is actually that they dont have any real story relevance outside of the Cut scene with finnishing off Sandman, and as soon as you get simbiote abilitys, they become irrelevant, you could remove Them interely from the game, and the story wouldent change at all, so to give make them seem just a little less like they just came fore no real story reason, i would make it so after Sandman has been hit with Them, a brif word exchange happens between Miles and Peter that goes like this, (Milies: still cant belive your Psyki could handle going Back and tampering with the tecnoligi that ruint your relationship with your mentor figure. Peter: Well lets just say my psyki needed to make something good come out of that tradegy… and also to remind myself never loss myself like he did) i actually started feling it was a wast that i couldent use Them, when i had the simbiote abilitys eqipt, unless i went all the way Back in the meny to manualy switch Them, so when this other guy on KZbin presntet the idea, that they could make a Quick switch of Them by the Press of a button in future games, i couldent stop feling like the game should have had such a funktion, that could even have workt fore the gatget wheel too, if they had workt all the previus seven gagets into it too, (six if you make the impact web, and bouncy web gatget in the second game, the same gatget, wich they almost are, just add a combat and stealth switch funktion onto it) and perhaps add more new gatgets. Also Milies should tottaly have different gatgets from Peter to differentiate Them, and to add more variety, i Think something like things he stole from the undergrund bases, because he tottaly would Hunt Them Down to put Them all in prison, because of what happend to Phin, next to that he should have some prowler type gatgets that he Got from uncle Aron, or better yet, make those Prowler bases contain things Aron things Milies should have, now that hes done being the Prowler.

[@Trench-coat]

Gadgets are far superior to over powered abilities!

[@lassegrotkjr6326]

You said it, especially because with gatgets you can get really creative about how to use them, and with abilities you just press a button, and them make a move that you have no control over when activated.

[@Firekeeper01]

That accent… could it be? lots of ❤ from CT.

[@Trench-coat]

Hehe, love from CT as well!

[@Firekeeper01]

@@Trench-coat Great vid btw, can’t believe I only found your channel today. I’m just hoping Peter will still be the main focus for the 3rd game. Green Goblin has always been Peter Parker’s arch nemesis. It’ll really feel strange if Miles is the main character for that game.

[@Trench-coat]

@ I totally agree, also hoping for green goblin! Hopefully Insomniac nails the conclusion to this trilogy. Thanks for watching!

[@lukeamparo6586]

Nah, they rushed and ruined the Symbiote story line. The 90s cartoon, Spectacular Spider-Man, and heck even the Raimi Spider-Man 3 movie did this arc better. Their decision to make Harry Venom instead of Eddie to emulate the childhood friend turned monster story from the Ultimate Spider-Man comics just didn’t work. It needed more time to both build up and break down the friendship between Harry and Peter. Insomniac really fumbled here and I’m not surprised it didn’t win Game of The Year.

[@Trench-coat]

They needed more time to cook… hopefully they take their time with Spiderman 3

[@mikaiholder1113]

Here is my take honestly like after the Story it just gets boring i mean the side content isn't that good it is kinda boring except for the spider verse part and the flame mission but after that you can't do much other than just beat up stupid guys around the city spider man 1 still remains the best but time flies so fast bro i remember back in 2018 when i literally got a PS4 just for this game and i had so much fun also after the story it had the DLC which is 10/10 if you guys haven't played it i recommend it but like 6 years ago was 2018 already i literally remember every second of the Day that i played the game on launch it feels like it was literally just yesterday dude but like i dont care if spider man 3 takes like 6 years to release i just really want something that can atleast compare to the first game i literally was crying for so long after the first game and also the puzzles were so fun to

[@cypherlt369]

6/10 i wasn’t invested in the story or characters at all aside from kraven and the symbiote arc for peter was far too forced, they didn’t make it seem convincing at all and made peter far removed from himself instead of being a darker meaner version like i feel a good symbiote arc would

[@antwonmorton6525]

Playing with MJ more then venom is such a miss opportunity

[@Trench-coat]

So true...

[@SpotifyMartinez]

I can free roam the hell out of spider man 2019 because when chasing cars it’s more hands on and action packed when stopping crimes and shoot outs sometimes the police are there and it adds to the atmosphere they took that out of spider man 2 chasing are just button timing and it’s only one button and stopping crimes like shoot outs and robberies it’s a bit bland there is no cops shooting it makes the free roam feel empty AND another thing I hate about the chases they just spawn out of nowhere they used to drive around and catch your attention before the 911 call even comes in .in spider man 2019 YOU FELT LIKE SPIDER MAN in spider man 2 I feel like I’m watching a movie rather than BEING SPIDER MAN

[@Trench-coat]

I agree! Spider-Man 2 lacks the atmosphere that made Spider-Man 1had!

[@ChrisManley1994]

I absolutely hated that every boss fight had three stages, they drrrrrrraaaagggggeeeeedddddd!!!

[@Trench-coat]

Lol