Honest Trailers - The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug

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Before you say goodbye to Middle Earth with The Battle of the Five Armies, relive The Desolation of Smaug, the bloated second chapter in Peter Jackson's mercilessly long Hobbit trilogy.
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Voiceover Narration by Jon: / jon3pnt0
Title design by Robert Holtby
Series Created by Andy Signore / andysignore & Brett Weiner
Written by Dan Murrell, Spencer Gilbert, and Andy Signore
Edited by Dan Murrell & Jason Inman
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Are you still reading this?! If so, type "Bored of the rings" in the comments below!!

[@weterr123]

surprised you didn't highlight how Bard looks more like Orlando Bloom than Orlando Bloom looks like Orlando Bloom...

[@ulfricstormcloak7142]

LoL

[@lnsflare1]

Seriously. I have trouble with faces and Bard and Legolas were messing me up throughout the film.

[@RuberDildo]

they look nothing alike.

[@GamerGirl_2000]

Zorro del Demonio thats correct

[@weterr123]

Zorro del Demonio yeah, when I'm not the only one to highlight it. Hell, there are memes about it ffs. Google it, or better still, open your eyes.

[@erictorres5539]

Gandalf's side quest actually did happen, but he doesn't really mention it in the book. I think he talks about it in the Lord of the Rings explaining that the Dark Lord Sauron had disguised and Titled himself as the "necromancer" until Gandalf and the white Council went to Dol Guldur and in the process of trying to kick him out they discover his identity.

[@marketareznickova6804]

Yes Tolkien said in the books that his quest doesn't belong in the story cause it was all written rom Bilbo's point of view

[@mysteriousewok]

It does kind of mention it in the book. Towards the end while Bilbo and Gandalf are going back home, Gandalf mentions that the reason he left was to go meet with some other wizards to drive the necromancer out of Mirkwood.

[@lisamalvina979]

Tokkat1138 It's actually only one sentence but it is in the book at least

[@erictorres5539]

***** No.......

[@erictorres5539]

***** I gladly will my good man. (commences to educate everyone).

[@voidwaiker5497]

Honestly I'm glad they included gandalfs side quest I really wanted to know where he went when I was reading the book

[@major9982]

Same

[@mzwakithi]

Same here. I know the side quest is somewhere in the massive annals of the LoTR, but I’d never quite gotten to it.

[@derdimi927]

it just doesn't matter there it only states that they had to fight a necromancer in South Mirkwood, and after Gandalf returns that they were successful

[@darioluque9079]

They say it in the Lord of the Lord of the Rings.

[@handlesmcdaniels8963]

Except he forgot whatever he learned when he discovers the ring in lotr

[@steviesilver3273]

"Then they cover him in gold... Which does nothing..."

[@slyngn7847]

+Stevie Silver But hey, at least, he looked shiny till the end.

[@steviesilver3273]

Sly Ngn: Yeah that was kinda decent.

[@gemkvn]

it made him look even more badass

[@kevinrianto862]

+Stevie Silver Its apparently supposed to reference one of his nicknames in the book, which is Smaug "the golden", WHY they reference that though, I have no idea.

[@Mr.M1STER]

Hey they had to try something.

[@KeyblademasterDovahkiin]

I lost it at "An adventurer...until he took an arrow to the knee" :') ahhhhhhhh Skyrim memes

[@brendanf1591]

I spat tea all over my laptop :)

[@KeyblademasterDovahkiin]

***** Every time I go to Whiterun or Windhelm or Solitude and I hear that, I'm like "Dude...can I have your autograph?" XD

[@gunnersubbu]

It's 2 AM and I just guffawed at that... my neighbours might come knocking... or call the cops.

[@0criticalHit]

XD noice memes guise amiright lmfapooo

[@rustyshovel7179]

Not now, the underforge, tonight. Not now, the underforge, tonight. Not now, the underforge, tonight. Not now, the underforge, tonight. Not now, the underforge, tonight. Not now, the underforge, tonight. Not now, the underforge, tonight.

[@plottwist3364]

I love how, in LOTR, Jackson and his co-writer said they trimmed the films to focus on scenes that were important to Frodo's quest yet here they wrote a bunch of scenes that take constantly the plot away from the Dwarves' quest.

[@FrazerEddy]

Clearly a lot of cynicalism had its toll here.

[@Aliztro]

I am dying of laughter, that Skyrim reference in the "starring". An adventurer until he took an arrow to the knee? Hahaha

[@KaustavNemoSen]

.."let me guess... sum1 stole your swee... erm arkenstone..?"

[@Aliztro]

Kaustav Nemo Sen No, he stole my COOKIE! Doesn't matter, he is in space thinking about what he has done :]

[@kalinatankova3578]

tc tc, no lollygaggin' :D

[@FurryRod]

The day Smaug destroyed your village, was the worst day of your lives. But for him, it was Tuesday

[@zachz1018]

and he had to do it between lunch and dinner without getting in the way of linner. Gotta love me some linner.

[@katwernery6505]

Love that reference. Raul Julia was the best part of that movie

[@wattsnottaken1]

Reminds of a scene from Narcos Mexico where Kiki and another DEA agent crash their truck into a drug traffic plane and then after he says, “My kind of Tuesday night!” 😂

[@LouisTusset]

"Oh My God, It's still going.", that line right sums up The Hobbit Trilogy.

[@michaelmaximus7916]

More Like "The Hobbit Trilogy in a Nutshell"

[@chriswestergaard4506]

more like the hobbit criticism in a nutshell

[@ROCKaholic]

By far, Smaug's the coolest and most impressive CGI character to ever be created.

[@BoHorn]

IKR, breathtaking and intense.

[@janeruxox8486]

+ROCKaholic And Benedict Cumberbatch's performance is amazing!

[@qwert_au]

+ROCKaholic Yes, the look, the attitude, the voice. It was perfect.

[@chajus1]

They could have done a little more research and create and actual dragon not a wyvern.

[@qwert_au]

***** I replied too soon.. I might come back

[@RuberDildo]

Legolas looking "SLIGHTLY" older wasn't a problem. You don't even notice when you watch both trilogies. My only problem with him were his eyes. Suddenly they are light blue.

[@hannanifakharuzzaman7158]

Zorro del Demonio

[@brynnsparrow8476]

Zorro del Demonio Oh wow, I never noticed that!

[@katiemahon304]

Zorro del Demonio in the original triology they forgot to put in the blue contacts some (OK most) of the time and in the hobbit they made sure they didn't make that mistake again

[@RuberDildo]

Kitkat 4957 They should not have made him wear them, to ensure continuity.

[@katiemahon304]

Zorro del Demonio because legolas is an elf that is descended from sindar elves (I think its sindar) its custom to have almost platinum hair and blue eyes

[@muhammaduddin5884]

An adventurer until he took an arrow to the knee lmao

[@bethanyherford7236]

SKYRIM!!!!!!!!!!

[@dasistmeinnamedasistmeinna9662]

Especially the whiterun guards... all the guards say it, but they...

[@frostywhiskers5292]

"I was a adventurer like u *TAKES OFF HELMET* I tell u more about it but there's a settlement that needs ur help I marked it on ur map"

[@firefoot2279]

I understood That reference

[@firestonegraywolf]

that "i am fire, i am death" line was awesome tho

[@karenblan4505]

"Legoland" I died laughing omg XD

[@bibniebt]

Stephen Colbert wanted a cameo because he's a huge Tolkien fan. Like, enormous

[@TheRealBeatMaster]

+The King of the Penguins Like, unbelievably enormous.

[@MARYWTHER]

Yeah and he got a replica of Bilbo's sword after that, which... I want one too!

[@akacozymint]

It's hilarious

[@katwernery6505]

He is the one true fan!!

[@buckacre1348]

Colbert is an enormous douschwaffle.

[@samenright5274]

Gandalf's sidequest was in the book, and was also mentioned at the council of Elrond in the Fellowship. Admitately it was just Jackson stretching about two sentences at the very end of the book into a whole subplot, but Radagast, Galadriel, Elrond, and Gandalf all fought the Necromancer at Dol Guldur both in the books and movies.

[@PatrickWardActor]

People who call these movies bloated, boring and overlong clearly have no appreciation for solid build up and character development. People who say they use way too much CGI are wrong because at least it's convincing CGI, and saying that it looks like a cartoon isn't even an argument, The Hobbit is more kid friendly in comparison to TLOTR of course it will be more cartoony so shut the fuck up. Yeah let's just ignore the fact that there was shit tons of cartoony stuff in the original trilogy and it was still awesome e.g. Legolas sliding down a shield not missing a shot, and sliding down the trunk of an elephant, walking talking trees, Gollum. This isn't new stuff guys!

[@zak2153]

I agree with you for the most part but two things 1. the CGI wasn't really convincing, the orcs of the original trilogy looked far more better, at least in my opinion, and there were quite a few scenes filled with just god awful CGI such as the barrels going down the river and the liquified gold in the forges. Seriously those looked like the CGI you'd expect of some cheap sci-fi movie with no budget not a high budget film like this. 2. You see there's a difference between the "cartoony" stuff in the original trilogy and the stuff here, the stuff in the original trilogy was mostly non-comical save for the scenes with Gollum but even they generally fit the rest of what was going on in the film. Legolas sliding down the stairs on a shield was more to show that he was a badass In the hobbit you go from high action serious fight to Bombur rolling and bouncing down river landing on orcs then five minutes later you see an orc get beheaded and five minutes after that you have the dwarves crawling out of a toilet. With Legolas taking down the oliphant the action still fit what he generally did which was very quick, agile fighting involving precision rather than something like the chase scene with Beorn where Bombur starts out running everyone or when they're in Rivendell and Bofur throws a sausage to Bombur to break the seat he's in. While the original trilogy generally had continuity and the occasional scene intended to brighten the mood the Hobbit just goes back and forth, sometimes it's something that seems intended for young audiences and others make you think no child should ever see it and it doesn't make those transitions during times that make sense.

[@DarkMasamuneXIII]

what character developement? after all three movies all you get is a sappy lovestory that goes on waaay to long while there isn't even any bit of chemistry. they should have spent more time developing the eagles characters as they pretty much do everything in middle earth anyway. damn i really loved the LOTR trilogy, but this trilogy is just one BIG dissapointement. Although i do admit king Dain was awsome but he only apears at the end with little to nothing known about him.

[@ascendednightingale2456]

There is no character development because the characters are so horribly one- dimensional that there's nothing to work with.

[@linkofvev]

Brandon Hank Have you seen liquid gold like that before?

[@samandrade783]

Patrick Ward strongly disagree! The character development is so poor it hurts. The second movie is very empty, boring and unnecessarily long. I still don't get the romance stuff. But the third movie is good! We can finally see deep inside the characters. I agree with DarkMasamuneXIII, I would like to see more of the eagles and king Dain. It hurts my feelings, but the trilogy isn't so good as it could be.

[@angelamackenzie9036]

I hate when people say that Gandalf is Dumbledore

[@annadrapeau2468]

Me too.

[@angelamackenzie9036]

Anna Drapeau yeah I have friends who do it and I get so mad at them

[@annadrapeau2468]

"Friends" :P

[@angelamackenzie9036]

Anna Drapeau haha acquaintances

[@marketareznickova6804]

My cousin thought that they were the same actors

[@damobeck1]

Loved that Skyrim reference!

[@RealityBoy101]

+David Oobleck YES TO THE DWARF WHO IS IN LOVE WITH AN ELF NOT EVEN IN THE BOOKS

[@damobeck1]

RealityBoy101 hey bud.

[@RealityBoy101]

David Oobleck Ohaio.

[@damobeck1]

Idaho

[@RealityBoy101]

David Oobleck I-ugh, never mind.

[@alepizzo7]

At least Smaug's voice is awesome.

[@daname1491]

I don´t know why everyone dislikes the hobbit triology. It´s a good movie. A bit different from the other triology but still a good movie

[@gaoutlaw]

Ultimately, the main complaint is they are way too long. Especially considering The Hobbit as a book, is barely half as long as the Fellowship of the Ring.

[@MiLLa179]

GeorgiaIcedawg I know right. I dont think it was that long. I enjoyed it a lot.

[@kalebcarvalho1696]

Just whining babies. They complain about everything, we shouldn't take them seriously.

[@s1ientdeath]

GeorgiaIcedawg have you ever read the hobbit? its more of a summary then a book everything they've added its possible and alot of it was even mentioned like "gandolfs random side quest" yeah the novel even said hey gandolf is going off to investigating the necromancer and such

[@gaoutlaw]

Yes, I have read The Hobbit many times over. These movies are still unnecessarily long.

[@gabriellatolve1600]

“A creepy romance between the hot dwarf and Kate from lost” that’s exactly what goes thru my mind every time I watch those movies💀

[@FletcherReedsRandomness]

This was the best of the Hobbit Trilogy for one reason: Smaug. Everything about Smaug is awesome!

[@shreyabhattacharya4160]

"I'd rather be Shiny! -Tamatoa" -Smaug

[@SimonWissels]

starring an adventurer , until he took an arrow to the knee . i laughed more than i should

[@superduperfreakyDj]

***** But he dies in the book anyway.

[@nisher15]

***** Maybe he doesnt die in the movie and ends up being some dwarf peddler that tells old tales about his adventures..

[@nathaniela.3273]

nisher15 No, he'll die in the movie so we can have a moment of heartbreak. I mean think about it. All of the dwarfs are interchangeable, they picked Kili to be the one involved with Tauriel for a reason.

[@bradleycross248]

nisher15 No he moves to Skyrim and gets a job as a guard.

[@StacieMMeier]

"I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took an arrow to the knee."-From the Guard who I found in the middle of a field out in the middle of nowhere in Skyrim.

[@yvindsolstad1460]

Do Honest Trilers of Honest Trailers

[@GFDIAA]

^ YEES

[@MrSpyPotatoes]

I believe it's the video that starts playing once you go to their channel page

[@zbh9268]

Trailerception...I like it.

[@HankLoremonger]

I enjoyed all 3 movies, but definitely wished for more Smaug, especially since they did such a great job making him an interesting character instead of just an ominous enemy.

[@joaomesquita3069]

"from the director who still doesn't know when to quit when he's ahead" you mean george luc- whoops! wrong nerd movie series...

[@THEPELADOMASTER]

There's a few of those

[@penny1545]

Messa call me Jar-Jar Binks. Messa I am your humble servant!

[@Batcow7735]

@@THEPELADOMASTER And with all the planned MCU projects for the next five decades, we might be adding Kevin Feige to that list.

[@freemantle85]

You should check out Lindsay Ellis' videos on The Hobbit. Peter Jackson was pretty much forced into making the films by Warner Brothers.

[@amanms1999]

"Nerd movie series"???

[@villelepoaho4105]

"Arrow in the knee" I knew there are some Skyrim players around...

[@GFDIAA]

Isn't that joke too old for people care... Still...

[@Brehmstorm729]

And he almost read it in the Honest Game Trailer for Skyrim

[@acullen113]

GFDIAA Are you kidding? That joke was hilarious lol.

[@paulor.2069]

Sukkasanteri Is there any statement from the movie's producers/director that confirms this?

[@Maioly]

yes, because having a story filled with superfluous characters with nothing to them, gandalf disapearing without explanation to do things that only get mentioned later and the bard only appearing when its time to kill smaug, with all of his backstory crammed to that bit or not there at all would have been soooo much better than having the movie actually expand on the events of the book, actually give the other dwarfs something to do, showing us what gandalf was doing instead of just telling us, and actually giving bard characterization and time of his own so that when he kills smaug instead of the dwarfs it actually feels justified and not something completely pulled out of someones ass. I am actually really glad this is a trilogy and that they expand on the book actually making connections between this and the lord of the rings as well because if it was just a one movie straight adaption of the book, lets face it, it would suck. a lot would have to be cut and things that are already shallow in the book would be even worst in it.

[@johnjekyllson28]

So true. That works in a children's book, not so well in a blockbuster.

[@Sawbucks88]

Couldn't agree more - If Gandalf just vanished from the story and popped back up at the end like he does in the book then I'm fairly certain that would be one of the most prominent complaints people would be making! There's also the fact that Bilbo gets knocked out very early in the final battle and gets a summarised version after the fact - would people really prefer a faithful adaptation of that over actually getting to see an epic battle of five armies? Didn't think so...

[@JohnSmith-te4ll]

I've been saying this forever! As a person in the middle of the book (don't worry, I don't care if it's already been spoiled- I mean, it's a 75 year old book) and I have nothing to complain about. I think the movies are perfect and Peter Jackson did a great job.

[@nisher15]

I thought the Bard had muscular dystrophy and talks with a stutter...

[@tigereyez01]

Whilst I do agree, there is a thing as too much which I never thought I would say as a huge fan of the book and the lotr trilogy. As a fan, one movie would have been too little but three movies is doing too much. And the tooo long scenes, unnecessary scenes and the elf-dwarf romance love triangle really got to me. But needless to say, I will be lining up to watch the new movie and you can bet will have all 3 extended versions as soon as possible.

[@sagarsharma-qf1hs]

Do Benedict Cumberbatch's Sherlock

[@MorganHorse]

Yes! Listen to this individual.

[@mrsbenedictcumberbatch9565]

hey

[@vre4179]

sagar sharma they did!

[@sagarsharma-qf1hs]

I know and they didn't mention my request! thanks for taking notice, really appreciate it. I hope you have a great weekend Vita

[@1236remis]

Who bendrelitch cumbersnitch?

[@CherriIceCream]

Dragon Khan? Would be perfect if there was a line saying: 'Smauuuuuuuuuuuuug!!'

[@maemaeii5060]

+CherriIceCream benedict dragonbatch

[@CherriIceCream]

Touche.

[@achmadsyariefhidayatullaha2671]

Dragon Strange

[@kravcio]

I do agree, sir! It was long, the dwarves gave up after 10 seconds of banging on rock and they made a statue out of LIQUID gold that maintained its shape for like 10 secs.

[@kravcio]

and did nothing.

[@kravcio]

Yes, the journey was supposed to be long and for me it was too long even in the book but here it's overly long. Dwarves... had they stayed ten minutes longer, there would be no need for over-dramaticized return. And how is gold and uselessness relatable?

[@medicalshadow6331]

I was just thinking the same thing, apparently this guy just has literal tons of liquid gold lying around the he regularly covers talking dragons in

[@xerxesjalmano970]

What, you can't relate to that?

[@MegaTechpc]

Medical Shadow Uh, no. The gold was melted down when they started the furnaces. The statue is a mold that the dwarves had built back when they occupied the mountain. Once they started the furnaces the gold melted down into the mold and formed the statue. It didn't have time to cool and set properly so it disintegrated after a few moments and covered Smaug, but dragons are resistant to heat so it didn't kill him. And lastly, these movies are meant to tie into the original LOTR trilogy so that once complete you will be able to watch the 6-part box set as one, long story. That is why PJ is going to such lengths to connect the two trilogies...

[@ImARealDuck]

Say "quack quack quack"

[@TheUnitedMarshmallowFederation]

A Duck​ "Bark bark bark"

[@legodude6912]

The United Marshmallow Federation "Meow Meow Meow"

[@TheParablade]

no

[@roxas66032]

You got to admit golden smaug looks awsome

[@melancholybobbyjoe]

Would hate it if Thranduil weren't so fucking hot, also Smaug was fucking awesome.

[@GamerGirl_2000]

+DingDongDanger, NO, Legolas Greenleaf is the hotter elf

[@MrMichaelVoorhees]

Fellowship of the Ring - A+ Two Towers - A+ Return of the King - A+ An unexpected journey - B Desolation of Smaug - A Battle of 5 armies - A -

[@TheAmazingDGM]

Stephen Albright I really enjoyed Desolation of Smaug... ...but then GoPro happened.

[@KingCarrot500]

Sorry just to make a little correction Fellowship A+ Towers A++ King AAA*+++

[@Antonia-hp5gg]

Fellowship of the Ring - A++ Two Towers - A++ Return of the King - A++ An unexpected journey - A- Desolation of Smaug - A Battle of 5 armies - B-

[@JBroAC]

Stephen Albright I would say C+ :/

[@DanNi-pc7en]

Fellowship - A+ Two Towers - A Return of the King - A++ Took hard work and a lot of people to Jar-Jar Binx the hell out of this movie!!! An unexpected journey - D- Desolation of Smaug - D Battle of 5 Armies - expected C- Now I know why the Halo movie never happened!!!!

[@hmmm9658]

An adventurer until he took an arrow to the knee 😄

[@KnightsaysNi]

I also liked "Dragon Kahn." XD

[@fhageran]

Hahahahahahahahaha yeah! that's so rude and funny xDDDDDD excellent joke xDD ._.

[@Pryzerk]

This is why i love Honest Trailers! They bloody quoted Skyrim! XD

[@colehartgrove1491]

I used to be a vault hunter like you then I took a bullet to the nee.

[@KnightsaysNi]

Circle Central I was merely pointing out my amusement at the useage of the same actor's dialogue fitting in with the crack video sequence. I haven't watched "Star Trek Into Darkness" in it's entirety, so I'm not offering an opinion on that at all.

[@user-cm4op2kz3y]

I bet that Peter Jackson was playing truth or dare and he was dared to make a kids book into 3, 3 hour films

[@nikolakolev3923]

This film is awesome so you can just fuck yourself

[@huybii3021]

+Nikola Kolev He never said anything about hating it.

[@connorbrennan4233]

Well, it is true though that Jackson didn't know what the hell he was doing. He had a very short time to finish it.

[@penny1545]

Well that's intresting. From what I know Peter Jackson broke down in the production of the third movie. He only wanted the studio to make 2 not 3 movies.

[@EfnysYersina]

@@nikolakolev3923 Learn to read

[@Sunhawk7ajj]

"An Adventurer: Until he took an arrow to the knee!!" Seriously I almost fell out of my chair laughing. Totally excellent. On another Top Ten statements that had the narrator laughing. :) Cheers

[@mikitz]

I was thinking whether there will ever be a Skyrim reference in these...

[@Blomkrukan00an]

FUS RO DAH!

[@tyrionlannister2368]

Haven't yet seen BOTFA yet, but I don't understand why many people seem to dislike the Hobbit trilogy (I've even seen a comparison to the Star Wars prequels!) Ok, so they're not quite the epic that LOTR was, but that's because they are adapted from a CHILDREN'S book. These films aren't bloated and dull. They have made changes to what's in the book and added nes stories and characters. I fail to see this as a bad thing + it means we get more films. Think of it like Game of Thrones (haha) or The Walking Dead. Both are adaptions of the source material, but have made some tweaks and changes for improvement when viewing for film or television.

[@PatrickWardActor]

Fucking THANK YOU!! :D Someone who gets it

[@Commonvoice815]

it's not that they aren't like the books, it's that the utterly fail to capture the feel of Tolkiens universe in the way that LOTR did even if they have to leave things out. I mean the Hobbit make freaking dick jokes.. that's unforgivable

[@CandNGamingSociety]

Samuel Griffith middleearthnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/LOTRProject_BarrelsOutOfBond.jpg

[@Commonvoice815]

CandNGamingSociety hahaha yeah i don't remember that either

[@LordJeffries]

CandNGamingSociety That passage was believably from the hobbit until the last few sentences.

[@kokif6490]

Say "OOH CHILD Things are gonna get easier, OOH CHILD Things are gonna get brighter"

[@TUCHENZ]

Or he could say "Oh,yeah"

[@kokif6490]

***** Dance off bro, me and you!!

[@kokif6490]

***** I'm distracting you, you big turd blossom!!

[@markbond7314]

Just saw the Hobbit trilogy for the first time this week, and I'm now ashamed I missed it in theaters. 'Desolation' was my favorite of the trilogy, and it's final 90 seconds were amazing!

[@Profimann]

I really love the lighting in this picture - good work!

[@lourow1993]

It's been a while since I last read it, but I seem to remember Gandalf does go on the side quest to deal with a ''Necromancer'' in Dol Guldur.

[@zak2153]

the necromancer is briefly mentioned in the Hobbit but isn't addressed as a huge thing however it is expanded upon in a different book..

[@metroidman7592]

Brandon Hank So your saying there is going to be a third trilogy?

[@1krani]

As I recall, one of Sauron's many aliases is "The Necromancer". So I kind of saw that coming.

[@sdmahoney2]

metroidman7592 The Silmarillion Trilogy!

[@zak2153]

metroidman7592 I doubt it considering that book goes through an exceptionally long time line of events.

[@likedionysus]

DO THE MAZE RUNNER!

[@emmal1690]

Yeeeees!

[@snowsofie]

no

[@etoinedevries7583]

Yeessss

[@aliyaali7900]

Omg yes

[@emmodified2632]

YESSSSS

[@isaiahtowers1865]

Tbh I feel like I'm the only one who liked the hobbit series.

[@oliviacreates490]

Same omg I thought the hobbit series was amazing!!!

[@isaiahtowers1865]

Olivia Muffin I know, I mean of course it wasn't AS good as the Lotr series it was a great series in on its own

[@oliviacreates490]

yeah

[@nerggirl3416]

I have no idea why people complained about the trilogy. I personally thought the pacing was pretty good and more movie is almost always great.

[@isaiahtowers1865]

Exactly! The movies were good and they had me on the edge of my seat, people just think oh it's related to the LOTR series, if it's not exactly like it or as good as it than it sucks, they were all a good series, I do prefer Lotr but love the hobbit series as well

[@shadowprincessnami3412]

I feel like Legolas in The Hobbit was all “I’m a prince and I should act like it.” Then in LOTR he was just like, “Yay! I’m going on an adventure with my new friends and my dad’s not around to yell at me!”

[@alexmpyun]

the whole golden statue thing was so strange. How did the dwarves even come up with that plan in the first place. "Lets build a golden statue, and then the statue will melt and then liquid gold will fall onto the dragon." Really makes no sense. Things melt into a puddle, not explosively. The dragon could easily avoid it. And how did the dragon shake off the gold after it covered him. Just bizarre physics in middle earth apparently. And really stupid.

[@ActuatedGear]

The idea was to encase it in gold. Kill it with heat or else just drown it. Being a dragon it was immune to the heat and the gold did not solidify instantly of course so the dragon shattered the thin shell causing the molten core to mix with the shell remelting it.

[@Gingerbrehdman]

Lol Dwarves obviously have teamwork +50.

[@TheLastCol]

So this is a world where a magical ring can destroy all life if it falls into the hands of a guy who's body isn't fully manifested & split up into several different body parts, contains beings who can live for centuries without aging, has a demi-God who can die and come back 10x as powerful as before, and your complaints are about the "physics" of it all?

[@ActuatedGear]

IrishColin94 Magics. How do they work?

[@Damon242]

Solid objects melt into a puddle, but in this case it was still hot liquid and so it collapses.

[@screenjunkies]

Before you say goodbye to Middle Earth with #TheBattleOfTheFiveArmies , relive The Desolation of Smaug, the bloated second chapter in Peter Jackson's mercilessly long Hobbit trilogy.

[@franciszealley4003]

This was simply brilliant.

[@JurassicCollectables]

Your best so far Screen Junkies! This hit the nail on the head haha

[@Moltenorange97]

Time for pulp fiction. Before its 20th anniversary runs out!

[@JurassicCollectables]

SAURON.GIF ;D

[@bionicg2040]

Say: "if i do not make it please tell my wife: she can not cook..."

[@arthurnewton1125]

I think it's funny on how Azog was added into the movies and Bolg became some random guy. Also, Gandalf's "Sidequest" actually did happen at the time portrayed...but you'll have to read a much more boring book than The Hobbit to know that.

[@taylorwarren2000]

"A slapstick battle..." Which was in addition to almost everything else, entirely not in the book. The Dwarves didn't even enter the mountain when Smaug was there.

[@keystrix3704]

Still a more entertaining trilogy than LotR. Yeah, I went there. And yeah, I'm serious.

[@Sacrilege83]

And yeah you have no likes (during the time I replied to you. Just covering bases)

[@keystrix3704]

Sacrilege83 Wait, wait, wait... are you telling me to follow popular opinion? Well, fuck off then. As far as I can tell, the only devastatingly wrong thing the Hobbit Trilogy did was come out after LotR. The rest of what I've been hearing sounds like a ton of bitchy nit-picking. -Also, who are you again?- **EDIT** Ahhh... misreading is bad, kiddos. Don't do it!

[@incomparableguy]

As someone who loves LOTR (both book and series) and loved the Hobbit book as a kid I was severely heartbroken at what resulted from Peter Jackson's rendition of the book. LOTR as a movie series was dense in material and was amazingly executed. The care that went into every detail was spectacular, just the detail they dedicated to the Uruk-hai armor alone is just amazing. The acting was great, the scenery was absolutely breath taking, soundtrack incredible, and the action scenes were believable and captivating. I find the Hobbit movies enjoyable only for the simple reason that I find nostalgic moments with this trilogy. The Hobbit book is shorter than any of the LOTR books and yet it was unnecessarily stretched out over three movies. The first movie was horrendous in execution, I found the first half of the movie completely boring. Bilbo didn't even take off for the journey until a good chunk of the movie had passed. This is a story that's supposed to be centered around Bilbo and yet they continuously involve the other dwarves in what should have been important character building moments for Bilbo. I did enjoy the riddle game since it was one of my favorite parts of the book. As for the Desolation of Smaug, they definitely spent too much time trying to develop the new elf characters that it took away what should have been great moments for the movie like their moments in the forest. While this movie was a huge improvement over the first it still used way too much CGI that it made the action sequences more silly looking than believable. The characters aren't nearly as well developed as the ones in the trilogy, but that is definitely not for lack of trying. I could go on but I think I ranted enough for one day.

[@HeyItsTnzk]

There's no accounting for taste, is there, Key Strix? lol

[@keystrix3704]

KTMICD2 I never said LOTR was bad. Also, such a hatefully passionate thing to say for someone who "doesn't care". HeyItsTnzk I just enjoy a movie series that is far more character driven than before. Apparently that's a crime here. Batman of Dorne Hey, someone reasonable. Neat. Look, to me, the LOTR movies were simply for those who have read all the books. I never did, so I missed out on tons of things the movies left out, like why I should care about the majority of the characters. The movies glossed over them and acted like I was supposed to be amazed that these characters that I only knew two sentences about from different races that I've hardly got any time to feel the hostility between... all formed a fellowship after a single roundtable argument. After that, the majority of these characters just went along with the whole thing like it was nothing, often just sharing simple (sometimes hilarious) quips between one another. The only character that had a good amount of background covered in the movie, had an interesting clash of interest with the fellowship, and had a rather big character revelation... is killed off in the first movie. The Hobbit (without going on a huge rant here myself), to me, takes more of its time in showing a good chunk of its characters, developing relationships, history, and racial tension. All of it pretty much explodes and comes together rather nicely in the final movie, actually getting me to feel for quite a number of characters as they experience gain and loss. But don't get me wrong. As much as I did really enjoy all of that coupled with the over-the-top action sequences, there were some minor things that did annoy me, like the dwarf leader revealed in the end who was almost all CGI. So, basically what I'm saying here, as a person who never read the books, The Hobbit got me to actually care about the characters while TLOR (which it clearly had a touch more care put into its development) didn't. Hence, the OP. Sacrilege83 Seriously, who are you? I really don't remember.

[@WatchGirlsPlay]

THE REAL QUESTION IS: What am I hiding in MY trousers?

[@ikhy1990]

Oh my God I watched you girls all the time. Love your video

[@17Haru17]

That was a little cringe-worthy, still a great movie.

[@Spar10Leonidas]

Car keys.

[@brownkv081]

By the smell probably something fishy. One of them oily ones.

[@seventhson2151]

Not a fair question

[@jackharris31]

The problem with the Hobbit Trilogy is that everybody is comparing it to LOTR, and yes it isn't quite as good. However the book was aimed at children which meant they had to adapt the story to both fit LOTR audience and merge into the world we see in LOTR. This is why the storyline wasn't quite up to LOTR standards. When compared to many other major movies of this kind being released at the moment the Hobbit Trilogy is fantastic. In my opinion, I think it is a shame that they did LOTR before the Hobbit, done it this way would have fixed the minor issues with the hobbit films.

[@pieoverlord]

+Jack Harris The problem with the Hobbit Trilogy is that Peter Jackson kept comparing it to LOTR. If he had just let it be its own thing - a whimsical adventure through a huge, mysterious world told through the eyes of a child-sized adult - it would have been fantastic... and two films shorter. If you're gonna literally put Sauron in it and spend half your runtime talking about LOTR, you don't get to complain when people compare it to LOTR. Go reread the Hobbit: it more than stands the test of time and there are legitimate reasons to strongly prefer it to the Lord of the Rings trilogy. IT'S storyline was fine, a worthy peer. The films' version was less fine.

[@jw8395]

+Jack Harris I think the big problem here is that this film trilogy relies too much on nostalgia, referencing LOTR in the hopes that it will excite the audience when it really isn't necessary, padding out a series of films that really should have been two films at the most, and following the book wouldn't have been too hard. But nope, they gotta amp up the action in the hopes that we'll say "OMG!! That happened in LOTR! We just jizzed ourselves!!"

[@glazestelar]

The problem is the Hobbit book was awesome and this movie was a piece of shit that was nothing like it is was basically The Last Airbender Movie

[@jw8395]

Glaze Stelar I wouldn't go THAT far, but yeah, they were pretty bad.

[@kayisfish]

@@glazestelar the movie that does not exist

[@dilpickle9376]

morgan freeman. :) lol. OHHH AND PLEASE DO BBC SHERLOCK. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE.

[@maemaeii5060]

+GARFIELD “GARRIE” UNDERWOOD YES

[@kaitleenbrown8133]

+GARFIELD “GARRIE” UNDERWATER "Dragon Kahn"haha

[@dilpickle9376]

Kaitleen Brown hahahahahhaha. This video is priceless.

[@jacquescote3903]

I respect your opinions and I love honest trailers but this one isn't funny or even good for that matter. Honest trailers are great because it is made up of funny and witty jokes using subtlety, this felt like I was watching a critic review with no jokes or character. It was 90% complaining about things that are in the movie but not in the book, Which they are fucking separate your not youtube commenters. And 100% the screen junkies guys ranting about how you didn't like the movie and the Honest trailer voice saying it on recording.

[@ActuatedGear]

I just kept smugly telling the video "Fuck you." because it doesnt get why everything about every one of these movies is awesome. And that is reason enough for me to have watched this honest trailer. Purely to know the Desolation of Smug.

[@jacquescote3903]

actuatedgear No I don't want to say Fuck you, and I didn't come here just to rip on the honest trailer. I like honest trailers because it delivers jokes everyone can laugh at, even those who loved the movie. But this had no jokes it was no better than a review you read on Rotten Tomatoes, so I was giving my criticism on their video which I believe could be to some benefit to everyone

[@ActuatedGear]

***** And I get that from most of them. Nothing says you cant still enjoy something for what it is rather than what its trying to be.

[@Lone432345]

Frankly more i watch these. The more it seems like there just your average fanboys screaming.. Its not like the book, I hate it, balh, blah blah. Im not just talking about just this movie.

[@JBroAC]

I can't believe Bilbo died. RIP ;_;

[@kt-xy5zo]

I still enjoyed all three movies. I think the acting was great, and although there were scenes that weren't needed, it was still enjoyable to me. If you watch the Hobbit movies as a separate trilogy they aren't that bad, and some of the added stuff comes from the appendices and Tolkien's notes. If they took away the Kili/Tauriel romance (and the character Tauriel entirely) I think it would improve some. Also, BOTFA wasn't quite as epic as I'd thought it would be, but I still loved it. I really wish Bilbo was a bigger character, though. Martin Freeman is a great actor, and he really exceeded my expectations for what Bilbo would be like, so it would've been cool to see more of Bilbo.

[@SapphireSeahorse494]

Also take away Legolas. He was not supposed to be in the Hobbit

[@hayreddinbarbarossa661]

Also take away 1movies worth of rubbish, the white Ork, and Radagast, and you might be getting close to a good movies. You haven't read the original book have you?

[@youtuuba]

@@hayreddinbarbarossa661 , have YOU read everything that Tolkien wrote about the story taking place at the time of the Hobbit book? There is a lot more stuff there in his other books, which Jackson's writers incorporated to help tell the WHOLE story of what was going on. This trilogy is clearly not the movie of the children's book, it is the movie of everything Tolkien wrote, in multiple books, about what was going on. You know, Tolkien wrote more books about Middle Earth than just The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings.....

[@youtuuba]

@Life on the Alaskan Frontier , I have read everything Tolkien published, about Middle Earth and otherwise. Apart from The Hobbit, LOTR, and Farmer Giles of Ham, I did not much care for any of the rest of it.....lots of information, but it did not feel like a story that was actually meant to be read....hard to get through. But one thing the process taught me, is unlike most other authors of fiction, Tolkien had a deep wealth of background information developed to support the characters and stories in his mire literate books. Which is why I have little respect for people who are overly harsh towards Jackson and company for incorporating things in the movies that they think are "not in the book".

[@petersheffer3482]

Totally agree about the Tauriel point.. get rid of her and the movie improves.

[@datboi5201]

"An adventurer who took an arrow to the knee" lol! skyrim jokes aren't THAT old people!

[@TheExecutorr]

Dragon Khan XD Now I know why I Smaug looked familiar to me

[@LordCylarne]

WE WANT THE FIVE ARMIES HONEST TRAILER! WE WANT THE FIVE ARMIES HONEST TRAILER! WE WANT THE FIVE ARMIES HONEST TRAILER! :D

[@martianmanhunter37]

THEY HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE DVD! THEY HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE DVD! THEY HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE DVD! :D

[@stanqifrey1575]

Yes!!!! Do battle of the five armies!!!!!!!!! Do it!!!! P,ease!!!!!!!

[@KarelinaCA]

martianmanhunter37 oohhh, I havent thought about that, of course. Well, I´ll wait for the DVD, it will be worth it =)

[@stealthunter14]

The CGI in the hobbit movies looks too cartoony like it's made by Disney, it doesn't have the same raw grittiness of the Lord of the Rings films. Just look at the trolls in LOTR and The Hobbit.

[@GerNiels]

***** Yes it's a children's book, but the movies clearly weren't aimed at the same age group the book was. It was trying to copy the success of LOTR and it failed because the source material just didn't fit that mold.

[@metgredko]

***** Too cartoony and there is a disconnect with the audience. From the actual combat to the physics the characters are never actually in danger. Any tension the scenes would have had is resolved through the toony physics or these characters who themselves state they're not soldiers in the first film fighting like experts.

[@GerNiels]

***** This movie is not for children. It has only just as much comic relief as the LOTR movies did with Merry and Pippin. And at the end of the third movie it's all about the impending doom of losing to the orcs. How is that not 'gritty'? Humans getting killed all over the place and whatnot. The Hobbit book is just not fit to make into this big epic saga like LOTR. That just not what it is, but that is exactly what they tried to make of it.

[@metgredko]

Fitting the book should be the least of their concerns. This is supposed to be a story about a trek with a great danger at the end. There is no danger, no risk involved. The lack of physics and every possible coincidence working in their favor to eliminate bad guys and not even remotely harm the good guys kills these movies. There is no tension as a result and without it no attachment. I have no reason to care about what is happening as in the end it's blatantly obvious to anyone seeing or hearing of the Hobbit for the first time. The movie is shit because they went into road runner and coyote territory. This movie fails at entertaining precisely because they do everything they can to resolve the tension in the very same scenes there should be some. Without it there is zero reason to have scenes with conflict. There is no pay off to any tension which may have been building prior to the conflict. This movie was bad and they should feel bad for making it.

[@ekaraditya9749]

elf bejamin button LoL

[@MylingCyrus]

Someone needs to cut all 3 movies together into one normally long movie

[@danielroberts2421]

Do The Hobbit : The Battle of the Five Armies please!

[@sunrisesparkle6363]

I see you also like Honest trailers

[@danielroberts2421]

Crowley Mlečenkov Mhm.

[@kassidyhaddock1024]

PLEASE DO HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@NerdWithWings]

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[@peterjackson4331]

Give me your precious money for I am hungry for it.

[@thepakiusa]

Also How to train your Dragon 1!!

[@AyJuon]

Was it good?

[@NerdWithWings]

Usama Syed He didn't do that one either???!!

[@pantsflag]

The Rank and Bass animated film is my favorite adaptation of The Hobbit. Smaug was PERFECT in it. Could also be my nostalgia talking.

[@verytiredleo4694]

DO BBC'S SHERLOCK PLEASE DEAR GOD

[@jassi8084]

Please!!! 😍

[@Mollytier]

+Jasmin S Agree !!! BBC Sherlock would be brilliant : )

[@adindarahmania]

PLEASE.

[@holgerskriver3814]

pls

[@stormmian5412]

plz

[@gretjoz]

"An Adventurer... until he took an arrow through the knee." I had to pause the vid because I was laughing too hard!

[@fmc291]

You know I'm sick of people who keep complaining about how Peter Jackson bloated The Hobbit book. How quickly everyone forgets Shrek and every single Dr Seuss movie.

[@VladNorris]

Those get shit too. I hate when apologists forget other things get shit for the same reason because it makes a convenient "argument"

[@dpalmerama]

Everyone knows Peter Jackson's most bloated film is King Kong!

[@s1ientdeath]

i think they forget how much of a summary the hobbit was instead of a novel ...the dragon fight for instance ...in the book it was like oh by the way forgot to tell you about the dragon so uhh he burned lake town bard shot him he died bards famous ok back to dwarfs ...whole book your waiting for a dragon fight and the dragon dies in a page of summary

[@HiThereLindsey]

Nobody is forgetting those movies

[@RowanJColeman]

Um...I don't see how those things are related. It's like saying, "I'm sick of people complaining about Avatar, Cars 2 was terrible."

[@sowhat5115]

Say: "Ok guys, I'll do BBC Sherlock!"

[@Jobsih]

"Tom Bombadil" I see what you did there

[@aimeevandenberghe6952]

I wonder if anyone else knows who that is ;)

[@sourdoughofficial155]

anyone who read the book does

[@shai5651]

The guy they should've given the Ring to.

[@calick7208]

Shai Yastrab In the book they consider handing over the ring to him during the Council of Elrond, but then they discard the idea because Sauron’s march over Middle Earth was inevitable, and Bombadil would have ended up being cornered by the dark lord.

[@setsunaes]

@@calick7208 I'm pretty sure that they discard the idea of giving it to Tom Bombadil not because Sauron was going in his forest and take from him just like that, but because Tom was WAY TOO immune to the ring so he was going to just forget about it and lost it somewhere, or the ring (having a mind on his own) could just lip away from Tom's finger. Then someone could just find it and take it out of Old Forest and THEN Sauron could find it.

[@Balnazzardi]

This piece of shit goes down in the same category as 4th Indiana Jones movie and 4th Pirates of The Caribbean. One thing that is common with all of these 3 movies? They shouldnt have been made in the first place! (Remember that Jackson's original plan was to create 2 movies, NOT a freaking trilogy!)

[@bluegreen5377]

***** you know there is a mysterious number between 1 and 3? it's 2, you will hear about it on advanced math in 1st grade. maybe if they didn't strech it as much as they had we wouldn't have to see that shitty romance between Kili and Tauriel.

[@superduperfreakyDj]

***** He didn't say 1 movie he said 2, two would have been the perfect balance and then they wouldn't even have to put in all the filler and love story crap.

[@pinky75910]

***** Bakshi did one movie, and it was fantastic.

[@Balnazzardi]

Glad that there are atleast some ppl who agree =) And I mean I have to say that I really liked Unexpected Journey! But even it would have benefitted from 2 part-deal, where things propably would have run more smoothly, since many felt that it was too stretched also. But ye I think two 2,5 hour movies would have been more than enough to tell the story of the Hobbit and even add in Gandalf's adventures on Dol Guldur, which ofcourse happened at different time than in the book. However there would have not been the need for Tauriel, or her embarrassing love-relationship with Kili, nor idiotic cliffhanger ending that we saw in DoS. Really a shame that ticket income is all that mattered for WarnerBros and Peter Jackson, though I think that with Jackson it was also something that its called "director's blindness"....he added in his own ideas thinking that they would make the story better and focused too much on technology, just like George Lucas did with Star Wars prequels.

[@BUSeixas11]

I agree. Actually Jackson wasnt supposed to direct those at all. It was supposed to be Guillermo del Toro but he dropped the project

[@sarahmolot2662]

"An adventurer until he took an arrow to the knee" SKYRIM REFERENCE!

[@danae5578]

lol Scrooge McDuck' s vault...you MADE MY CHILDHOOD GLORIOUS!!

[@KikiDiki]

You said "JIF" you're dead to me Screen Junkies!

[@Juju42505]

Kiki Yuyu That's how you spell GIF...

[@KikiDiki]

Joana Ferreira No... GIF is spelt GIF...

[@Juju42505]

I used to say it with a hard g but I was corrected a few times. The creator of GIF does say how it is pronounced.

[@KikiDiki]

Joana Ferreira GIF stands for Graphics Interchange Format. You don't say it like "Jraphics" therefore I SHALL SAY "GIF" TILL I DIEEEEEE

[@Juju42505]

Your argument is invalid. You don't say "ginger" like "ghingher" don't you?

[@DaFalk216]

I'm sick of people complaining about stuff not being in the books, but featured in the movies. Guys, they took quite a lot of material from other Tolkien works (some of them unfinished), such as The Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth and quite some more and combined them with the Hobbit to create a universal backstory to the LoTR trilogy. Do your damn research before you hate, dammit.

[@poluicionador]

"they took quite a lot of material from other Tolkien works" I think that is one of the usual complains.

[@EmilioOzmarAguirreMendez]

You're totally right. Man, I'm glad that someone defends those films with a valid argument.

[@steveoneil7028]

There's a reason Tolkien never used all that backstory stuff in his main story. Interesting reading for hardcore fans but never belonged in the main narrative. And can anyone name any part of the film that was never in the books that was one of their favourite scenes? Usually I found the 'extra' things were corny and needless at best, sucked at worst. Cheesy attempts at action or comedy that did little more than detract from the main story.

[@choco-choco3945]

Just shut upppp OP, the whole video is a joke.

[@lshooterl]

Why everyone hate the Hobbit Trilogy? I think their great and easily better than those overrated Marvel movies like Avengers and Winter Soldier...

[@zotharr]

Rohan Mital Im a Marvel fan, and I dont even watched the Winter Soldier :P

[@ThePratham04]

I agree with you else than GOTG all other Marvel movies are shitty

[@ThePratham04]

Rohan Mital Sure Iron-Man was good. But The Hobbit is much better Trilogy than other Marvel Trilogies. I saw #battleoffivearmies yesterday I think it sucked but not as much as Marvel trilogies. In all The Hobbit movies Desolation of Smaug was the best (Because it had the Dragon obviously :P). But I have to agree with the fact that The Hobbit Movies are unnecessarily lengthy, many stupid moments (which honest trailers and Cinemasins have convered in there videos).

[@Grimlock1979]

I loved the Winter Soldier a lot better than the Hobbit, and I'm a Tolkien fan and not a comic book fan. Weird huh? Not all Marvel movies were good, Avengers was ok, not great, but still better than the last Hobbit film. Only the first Hobbit film was good. The last one was just dreadful. Peter Jackson was a hero when he made LotR, but now he has fallen.

[@Lone432345]

Mayaizzy H Some people cant like two things at the same time. It makes there head hurt.

[@ruthie8334]

Haha I loved the arrow in the knee part...But you nailed the whole thing once again.

[@johno121o]

The extended editions are actually pretty great. Especially the Battle of The Five Armies.

[@josynaemikohler6572]

I honestly considered the machine gun carriots and anti arrow slavo balistas a bit silly. :P

[@PACR66]

The problem with the Hobbit movies is that all the events could have easily fit in a single movie. Just cut all the stuff that doesn't happen in the books (or at least Tauriel and most of the Laketown politics) and you get a perfect movie.

[@zak2153]

Not necessarily, then you have Gandalf randomly disappear and reappear for no reason several times with no explanation as to how or why some thing happened and you wouldn't really have any action until the Goblin tunnels and then very little action beyond Bilbo killing a few spiders until they get to Smaug and the battle of the five armies. Then take into account that the Hobbit isn't the sole source of their story, Gandalf's side quest was written in I believe the Simarillion although it might have been the appendices of The Return of the King, and there's no way to make something that could in anyway resemble a perfect movie with less than two films which is what Peter Jackson had originally intended.

[@TheAmazingDGM]

Brandon Hank Two movies would've worked. Two short movies.

[@poluicionador]

Brandon Hank What is the problem with less action?

[@C0C0L0QUIN]

Brandon Hank Having thre main action sequences and one smaller one in betwen the first two, with the last two being almost followed by each other and making a crescendo sounds like a very logical and perfectly fitting intensity curve for a two hour movie. Having just a brief mention of why Gandalf constatly keeps dissappearing woulnd't be much of a deal either, as it fits with the character and the way Bilbo sees him (misterious and sometimes even suspicious but all in all helpfull and a good friend). Making constant references to "the rise of Sauron" doesn't help the movie at all. Constantly foreshadowing LotR is just aiming to use a kinf of nostalgic feeling towards the movies remembered as the good ones, which proves an important lack of confident in what originally was a standalone book.

[@AndyC-rm4wj]

Brandon Hank You don't need action all the time... Gandalf randomly disappeared in the book too. Your argument is invalid.

[@Joshalots]

The last film is pretty good. Except for scene where Thranduil tells Legolas to go find "Strider" was so hokey and stupid and unnecessary. They went way to far trying to connect it to the fellowship of the ring.

[@caridadchang7895]

yeah, it would have made more sense for him to call him Stele at least

[@AnimePlaysMinecraft]

I know that, but me and my friend were still Fangirling at the mention of strider... Can't get enough of him.

[@Kelthis]

As someone who doesn't know the lore and that Aragorn is 88 during the lord of the rings movies, I was a bit confused when legolas was sent to find him.

[@tazzerdevil98]

i know the hobbit is 60 years ago it doesnt take that long to find someone

[@McFlyLover92]

That was one of the best scenes... But I guess it was the actors that made the scene rather than the script. And tazzerdevil98, it may not take 60 years to find someone - but in the Lord of the Rings, they're already really good friends so I guess they spent many years building up a great friendship. (Like you can see in the Two Towers when you see how Legolas is worried when Aragorn comes back to helm's deep when they thought he'd died...).

[@BeachSamuraiStudios]

" we r never going to reach the mountain are we" hahahahahaha

[@CoolTom1337]

Epic Voice Guy: "This is the prequel, right? So how come Legolas looks so much...more mature? Is he like an elf Benjamin Button?" Legolas: "I don't know! I'M NOT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE IN THIS STORY!"

[@pergproductions]

Am I the only one who liked the Hobbit trilogy? I'm so sick of people saying get to the dragon already because they have no appreciation for pacing and have the attention span of a fucking 4 year old. I loved the atmosphere and buildup and as someone who has not yet read the books I really enjoyed these films and when they were split into three I thought it was a cash grab but I was still exited to visit middle earth again.

[@felineloveyaa]

I know right? These movies are beautifull, the acting is good and there is action. Too long? Take a pee break. They are taking our money? Watch it online. These people need to stop being so butthurt xD

[@superduperfreakyDj]

I think that is the reason why you liked this movie. I read the Hobbit as a kid and I have read it about 20 times, the lotr of the Rings and The Hobbit were my childhood, and maybe that is why I was dissapointed. I looked forward to these movies since I was like 7 years old and then the movie doesn't resemble the book and its story. I thought I wasn't watching a movie about the Hobbit but I thought I was just watching another generic fantasy movie.

[@gdh6200]

If only you'd read the book before watching the movie, you wouldn't like it that much.

[@Sadvillainy]

Pacing? Lmfao its boring filler that makes no sense and looks like a cartoon. Doesnt contribute to the story at all. I like the movies, but theyre extremely average.

[@HarryBuddhaPalm]

Yes, out of seven billion people, you are the only one. Congratulations on being one of a kind. Also, anyone that thinks a three hour build up (actually, it's six hours) is great really has no appreciation of pacing.

[@zimrileisher]

You forgot that Legolas had no major part in any of the books.

[@BlackLelie]

He is there for the females. Though Richard Armitrage, even as a dwarf, is enough mancandy.

[@simonwills540]

He fought in the Battle of the Five armies. And yes, I know it's not major but yeah, just sayin

[@redmilo92]

BlackLelie Aiden Turner's enough mancandy without Richard Armitage getting in the way. Thorin's too much of a prick

[@samuelrosander1048]

"An adventurer, until he took an arrow to the knee." Epic!

[@williamjameslehy1341]

From Chapter 19: 'Then the elves of the valley came out and greeted them and led them across the water to the house of Elrond. There a warm welcome was made them, and there were many eager ears that evening to hear the tale of their adventures. Gandalf it was who spoke, for Bilbo was fallen quiet and drowsy. Most of the tale he knew, for he had been in it, and had himself told much of it to the wizard on their homeward way or in the house of Beorn; but every now and again he would open one eye, and listen, when a part of the story which he did not yet know came in. It was in this way that he learned where Gandalf had been to; for he overheard the words of the wizard to Elrond. It appeared that Gandalf had been to a great council of the white wizards, masters of lore and good magic; and that they had at last driven the Necromancer from his dark hold in the south of Mirkwood.'

[@beetlebob4675]

You've done a great service here, that more people should have liked after all this time😂

[@BMoneyrulz]

Please Say: "You're A Mean One Mr. Grinch!"

[@NerdyNazgroth]

A few faults... 1.The Arkenstone doesn't corrupt ones mind, it was the gold that was cursed not the stone. But it did indeed give the king a lot of authority. 2. The original trilogy that you spoke so highly of had "flashbacks", for example Gandalf fighting the Balrog. 3. Trilogy's normally end with cliffhangers to make the viewer more excited for the next installment. If you weren't aware of this your movie reviewing must be horrible. As for adding extra content to the movies, well that was a hit or miss I guess. Some people love the fact legolas is in the movie and some people finger themselves over the books. I personally thought the trilogy was excellent, for those that are complaining it wasn't like the lord of the rings, it never was going to be. The Hobbit and The lord of the rings are two completely different scenarios within the realm of middle earth.

[@poslednisoud]

It wasn't Arkenstone nor the gold, dwarven greed was caused by their rings. Men were completely corrupted because that's how we roll, dwarves resisted Saurons control because they are more durable yet they were infected by greed that caused fall of Erebor and Moria ("The dwarves delved too greedily and too deep"), elven ring unlike the others were forged without Saurons supervision so his corruption wasn't present and they used them to preserve their lands. Still they were dangerous to use for they were still bound to the One at some degree.

[@CaptainMacTavishSoap]

Except the flashbacks were necessary in LOTR. We needed to see how Gandalf defeated Balrog. In this one they are completely useless. Yes we know Gandolf meet with Thorin, yes we know the town was destroyed since we saw that in a flashback in the last movie. We don't need to see these events.

[@meiying8218]

I remember watching the movies instead of studying essay writing for the hobbit (yeah we studied it at school) before an exam, and having such a great time watching all of them. The dwarves’ half formed plan to make a giant statue of Thror made me laugh so hard. And the fact that the forgery has a mould of a giant statue of Thror.

[@3LeafClovers]

"STARRING... An adventurer - until he took an arrow to the knee." LMAO - It's actually been long enough since I heard that meme that it has become hilarious again.

[@tifforo1]

Maybe this trilogy isn't as good as the other one, but I liked this movie. Smaug was awesome.

[@shiki7264]

+tifforo1 I agree, I have no clue why it draws so much hate. It's no LOTR but it would be stupid to expect every new movie to be better than everything else already out there. Though perhaps it helps I didn't actually read the Hobbit (but did read the LOTR books so I got more of the context of the flashbacks and the seemingly random Sauron foreshadowing bits?) The only part that really annoyed me was Legolas' presence, which was very forced every minute of it (I was told it wasn't in the book so must have been done as fanservice?)

[@pokoirlyase5931]

+Shi Ki the issue with this movie is that it fucks up the story of the world (like the weird dwraf x elf thin') but it's indeed really gd ... If there was a big enough budget for LOTR it would have been 3 times longer

[@shiki7264]

Pokoirl YaSe Yup, they could have totally made it harry potter length. Which is sad, seeing how much money it grossed in retrospect. Though they did invest a lot of time and effort in it, from what I heard about the insane details (like making every single piece of chainmail in the movies by hand). And yes, that romance seemed very fake as well. The only parts of the movies I skipped around, in fact. Blah, blah blah.

[@moralesjourneyman]

“I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took an arrow in the knee.”

[@angelojoshuaandeo9884]

That Legolas commentary at the end part makes me laugh a lot! 😂

[@trogdorthe8th]

LMAO, these NAMES they give them at the end are freaking HILARIOUS!!!

[@Jugem16]

It's worthwhile to see constructive criticism and critique about films, games and other media... But seriously? Half of the comments I see, even in this comment section, are all about bashing the artistic elements. Is anyone aware that it takes hundreds of _extremely_ prestigious artists to create such content? Can no one appreciate anything anymore? Idk if I sound whiny saying this, but it's something that really depresses me. Hearing comments such as "this effect was bad. They could have done that better. They were lazy to do that. I could do better with movie maker." just tear a void of dread in me.

[@marketareznickova6804]

Yes you are right everyone always complains about something

[@PokeZillaX3000]

I totally agree with you. I loved the movies and I also read the book before watching any of them. I liked both but I guess that makes me crazy. Normally, I love old black & white and costume effects movies but I thought this was great. Not everything can be perfect but the effects and extended storyline looked epic to me. I just love how people can bash The Hobbit yet immediately flock to the movies with all their friends, spending at least a hundred dollars when movies like Sharknado come out.

[@burdenboy247]

Tbf tho, the GoPro shot that they did was pretty damn terrible

[@Kasilyn_S]

I can't stand people saying the effects were bad. Have they only seen how they worked on it ? These effects are some people's work, really, really hard work and what did these pepole get for all this time and work ? A small name in the ending credits that nobody sees cause they are too disrespectful to stay still and watch 'em, plus they are critisized onto their own work by persons who don't know shit about what they've done...

[@iLuvvYuuMjxXxLia]

I just get the strong impression they only made these movies for the money. They've squeezed out so much storyline that didn't happen in the books and is unnecessary - like they said in this, Gandalf's side quest is pretty pointless, the romantic plotline that no one cares about. And all the scenery shots and much of the dialogue is just for filler purposes rather than moving the plot along, and it's uncomfortably boring. I like long movies as much as the next person, but not when nothing significant happens in them. Don't get me wrong, the effects of the movie were beautiful, but stretching it out into three movies was a shitty idea, especially when you compare it to the size of the book.

[@benjaminclosier6439]

The lord of the rings and hobbit trilogies are undoubtedly the best trilogies to ever be produced, they are filled with so much magic that no other films could even think about creating... I LOVE THEM!

[@Toxic_chicken]

Loved all these movies

[@xethiasOfficial]

I was watching this in the theater on opening night, i literally fell asleep about half way in. Never did re watch it....