Honeywell Standard T87 Thermostat Installed

[@ms.mommie6985]

My husband was a IBEW electrician but since his passing, as a widow things fall on me. My sons and I are using this video to replace the old thermostat. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@ginvin5977]

i'm a retired 30 yr union construction worker and it's nice to see a fellow pro make a mistake and own up to it, but more importantly is he double checks his work like a pro and discovers it. mother nature gets us all in the end with glasses. chuck i don't know you personally but i know the type of guy you are and i would have you as my plumber if i lived in the area.

[@todddunn945]

Modern heating systems can be amazingly fussy. Three years ago I replaced our old boiler and water heater with a combi boiler. As part of the job I added two zones to the second floor. It was an easy job of simply adding two new actuators to the existing manifold. To avoid pulling in new wire for two new thermostats I went with Honeywell wireless thermostats an equipment interface module and a redlink wireless control module. I used the wiring diagram supplied by Honeywell and it worked fine to start the boiler and open the zone valves, but nothing would turn off. It took me hours of searching the Honsywell site before I finally found the very obscure link to the correct wiring diagram. It worked after I rewired it, but the correct wiring was 100% non-intuitive. I also sympathize with your feelings about super fine print. I carry an extremely bright LED flash light just for reading tiny print that I could have read in a dark room 20 years ago but can't read now unless I am in bright sun or use my super bright light.

[@blueg3027]

those EIM`s are amazing arent they? I had to change out a few bad actuators at one job. They wanted 7 brand new thermostats top of the line. So I gave them 7 hw prestige stats with the interface module. So clean

[@ChuckBarron]

wow ok....interesting. do you need wireless or does it link to boiler itself?

[@todddunn945]

@@ChuckBarron the equipment interface module is hard wired to the boiler, the zone circulating pumps, the wireless module, and the zone actuators. The only wireless part is the new thermostats for the two new zones.

[@ChuckBarron]

ok thats nice to know. Thanks Todd.

[@lizzettejordan8589]

That seemed simple enough, I just went back to old reliable, forget digital for a single 74 yr young woman...keep it simple....thank you Big Barron!

[@ChiapasPioneer]

he caught his error, which is GREAT . . . yet when he commented on the length of the exposed wires and should he trim or not . . . he didn't . . . I would have liked him to "clean up" the installation from "soup to nuts" . . . but that is just me, I am not a licensed contractor ( except in my own mind ), and most of my D.I.Y. projects take twice/thrice the time to complete . . . and I do really good work . . .

[@ChuckBarron]

appreciate the feedback pioneer.

[@floydalbright1214]

Like your blog, you show the real world . Even mess ups . Nobody is perfect.

[@ChuckBarron]

Keeping It real for sure. Thanks Albright.

[@ChuckBarron]

I mean floyd...Got em mixed up my eyes again.....lol

[@elisebuhler5089]

Thank you for posting this! Single Mom changing thermostat! Your video made it possible! Great tutorial!

[@ChuckBarron]

Glad it helped! Ha.

[@angiemoses130]

I have a dual Honeywell ProSeries Thermostat it has the off mode on it plus the time on it. Really nice on its digital lights up when you push a little button

[@angiemoses130]

T4 or T6

[@ChuckBarron]

awesome...Thanks Angie

[@Zickcermacity]

We have a T87N in the hallway of our apartment complex. I need to check the position of those dip-switches because ours shuts off the heat 4 degrees F below what it's set to. IE: Set to 68, and it keeps the temperature at 64. 70, and it heats to 66. Could you please instruct us as to how to REMOVE a T87 from its base mount on the wall? I've tried prying this sucker off everyway possible, and since it's where we rent, I don't want to break our lease, along with the thermostat! lol

[@vasconezlful]

If I have the wrong setting on the set cycle rates will that affect my heating, I not sure which one to move…

[@vasconezlful]

The switches are so small

[@phillyj88]

Hey chuck we use the digital Honeywell T1 Pro for basic tstats like that one you were working on. My go to tstat right now is the Honeywell WiFi T6pro

[@ChuckBarron]

Awesome. Thanks Jesse.

[@miked9958]

I took old honeywell apart and the two wires were black and green.there were other wires not being used.some were white,red etc. should I use the black and green that were used on old Honeywell.the new one is a ct87k.heat only.thanks.also great vid!

[@ChuckBarron]

fire it up.....nice.

[@jasonjordan6435]

The only disadvantage to the new style t87 is that those have small batteries in them that can not be changed. I will use them as long as the situation is right. In a seasonal house they suck. For good digital lux pro has a decent one. And Honeywell 5000 or 6000 series work nicely tho they need a constant power wire.

[@ChuckBarron]

oh roger on the lux. Thats what I took out. It was frozen in time I think. I put that in 8-10 years ago I think. Thanks for the tip J

[@elektrokinesis4150]

you can change the battery, just have to take it apart

[@danielmaine8164]

Thanks👍

[@blueg3027]

My go to is the honeywell T4 pro. Super easy to use and has great programmable settings. The honeywell prestige is another great one but its a bit on the pricey side.

[@ChuckBarron]

Awesome Thanks J

[@josephtucci1872]

I'm getting ready to replace my for the first time. Never done this before. Question are you suppose to have the furnace off just asking. Thank you

[@ChuckBarron]

I would turn off. good luck

[@ABDELFIX]

don't you have to turn off the switch or something before touching those red and white wires?? Or is the current running through them just not enough to shock you?

[@ChuckBarron]

you should but its on 24 volts...yes very little

[@ABDELFIX]

Ah okay, makes sense @@ChuckBarron

[@littlealpay]

Question, when replacing you state it is important to ensure its level. How do you do that? Eyeball it? By the way - thank you.

[@ChuckBarron]

dead eye....but level is best

[@charlesleeray8302]

These thermostats are electronic. I believe you mentioned mercury, which was outlawed in 2002.

[@ChuckBarron]

oh snap...Your right. Its like me saying hot water heater. No such thing. lol

[@edwardpate6128]

Wish you could still get the Mercury ones, they were the best!

[@deborahcook1248]

I have no idea how to use a new programmable thermostat want to get rid of it. The heat goes all the time wont shut off when all I want is hot water. Ive had to use the main on off switch to only get hot water for evening showers.

[@ChuckBarron]

what kind of boiler? what type of water heater?

[@mikeychainsaw9760]

Questions is the second red line telling the tempature in house?

[@ChuckBarron]

yes sir

[@ravenwindlynnnagy7774]

Ty

[@rogeliolopez2190]

Bought this thermostat to make a temperature controlled outlet for my lg 5000 btu window ac because the bimetal sensor on it always gets my run too cold or too hot

[@ChuckBarron]

oh ok. nice.

[@rogeliolopez2190]

@@ChuckBarron I found a digital thermostat that actually works It none programmable and is also a lux like the one you replaced it's the lux pro psd022w I returned the honeywell and will make a video on how to make that setup I did earlier and just saying the psd022w can be bought at Ebay by hvac surplus as the psd011w which is the heat version but is still the cooling version for $14 which is why I might buy it instead

[@tolismoikan7869]

I have the same thermostat but I have a problem. When I put the thermostat on 75 degrees and up the boiler turn on and work all day night and when I put 74 degrees or more down the boiler never turn on. Where is the problem?

[@ChuckBarron]

hmmmmmmmmmm

[@nancybest5786]

Heat it won’t shut off staying at 80 with a Honeywell I don’t know what to do. Checked all the wires but it’s roaring at 80 but like this for a week

[@Donnybrook10]

I'm doing the same thing. Getting rid of this horrible digital thermostat and putting my vintage Honeywell back in

[@elsuperpollo2273]

I swear them new digital thermostats can be controlled remotely, and when I set it the temperature I want, it goes to a different setting.

[@trevorhayes1079]

Hey Chuck what do you do on your time off Trev.

[@ChuckBarron]

Trev, Check this out kzbin.info/aero/PLJlDLptUo_F_16lksoayS8xYWsAyu1wjH

[@deronarcher30]

Is this thermostat gets power from circuit breaker

[@adorapina5969]

My heater and thermostat were working but then someone switched the buttons on top and now the thermostat is not working. Does it have to be reset? How do you do that

[@karenneill3341]

What do I do if the setting and the indoor temp do not match?

[@ChuckBarron]

calibrate if possible.

[@RandomVelocity]

Do you have to turn off the power or anything on the furnace before swapping out a thermostat?

[@ChuckBarron]

i would..its easy enough

[@dillonlexington]

I like the Nest Brand of Tstats myself.

[@MoneyMarcMes]

I heard Nest spies on you. There has been a lot of issues with spying and hacking into the Nest Thermostat.

[@dillonlexington]

@@MoneyMarcMes I have never heard of that, not saying not true, just never heard of that, and the people I installed them for must just be boring then

[@ChuckBarron]

ok cool....lots of action to spy on in a hall way....lol..Im not surprised. Big Brother In Da House

[@armandomadrigal9793]

Double check , tripple check! amen on that brother. I am liking that new color on your sweat shirt.

[@throttlebottle5906]

or wire it wrong twice and do the job thrice =p

[@ChuckBarron]

LOL. I blame CB2....I needed his young eyes on scene. CB2 lets go Daddy!

[@NateR227]

Nest thermostat are great. You can control them from your phone and it doesn’t run if your not home. To save on energy costs. I have one and love it!

[@ChuckBarron]

awesome.

[@J-Colt]

I had a humidifier , new multi function thermostat installed 5 years ago. The thermostat battery case kept popping open. It would then default to some wild configuration. I'd get home and no heat. Lock battery case back up and fart around for 10 min's trying to get heat. Next day same thing. Went and bought a thermostat with, heat, cool, off and auto. Up for higher temp, down for lower temp. The old K.I.S.S principle. Keep it simple stupid, lol.

[@ChuckBarron]

KISS for sure.....Lol....

[@guitarTennisCarHomeFixFlying]

Which brand and model did you get that was simple I've got an older friend that can't see very well and doesn't comprehend very well he needs something real simple in my own house I have one of those old murky ones that you do have to switch it at the bottom from heat to cool or maybe off but heater cool and then you just worked at the the temperature lever at the top Pure simplicity, I'd like to find one of those for my elderly friend if anybody knows who makes those I have to check mine to see if there's a model number or brand name on it, mine is an old Trane weathertron, Mercury thermostat and it runs my heat pump fine except my wife and I have the constant thermostat battle but the plastic aclear vent diverters over the ceiling vents (I bought some extra magnets from Lowe's home improvements to help secure the vents to the ceiling vents over my recliner) to help me survive her tendency to ice it down like it's the North Pole, I wonder if you can still pick those up simple Trane weathertron Mercury thermostats?

[@throttlebottle5906]

there's a big fallacy to the "energy saving spiel" older building's most always have far longer recovery cycle times due to leakage and loss that caused everything interior to be hot or cold and radiating for many hours as it tries to recover....

[@ChuckBarron]

ya this place a sieve of air leaks..good point.

[@bigcountry3477]

CB1! You are the man love your videos! There’s not many old-school honest plumbers like you left!! I work for a general contractor building custom homes and commercial projects in Westchester county New York. It’s a family business so I understand your pain!! Just curious how many employees and trucks do you have. Keep the videos coming!!!!

[@ChuckBarron]

appreciate that. we have 3 trucks and 5 employee's. Im counting my part time sons...CB2 full time in May 2020

[@lolilooez7965]

How to put it in hot

[@deborahcook1248]

I took my battery backup thermostat to an electrician today and he set it to 55 for me. But the heat is still coming so guess it isn't a thermostat problem. I have a hot water boiler it also makes the hot water. He said something about zones or the furnace sorry I didn't understand.

[@ChuckBarron]

you have a summer winter hook up. boiler has coil inside for domestic water. so boiler will run all year long. kind of like a tankless water heater but runs through your boiler. i hope this helped.

[@deborahcook1248]

hot water is still running through the baseboard and heating the house even when the house is hot just so I can have hot water.

[@ChuckBarron]

ya something is bad....maybe zone valve, flow valve, gonna need professional for sure to diagnose it. good luck

[@frankieburacker807]

Where can I get this heat Thermostat at

[@gregsteele9002]

Yep. Plumbing, electrical & HVAC will always have job openings. I've been doing HVAC controls for ten years at military bases, schools, ect. Can't beat those Davis Bacon & prevailing wage jobsites!

[@jaimetarango7423]

i had my experience with that honeywell round thermostat it did not work well with an old gas floor furnace the temperature was way inaccurate they were periods were the house too cold and too hot but 1 year later i replaced it with a lux 10-1141 mechanical thermostat and it works fine now

[@ChuckBarron]

nice work

[@guitarTennisCarHomeFixFlying]

Do they make a luxe mechanical for heat pump in other words I guess heat and cooling I have an older friend that hardly barely comprehends the Honeywell digital thermostat he has plus he can't see it he can't make out any the words I bought him on this harbor freight things you wear on your head that what you do close work but I think you'd be much better off with one of these simple round mechanical Mercury thermostats if anybody knows if this is the best one to use for a heat pump heating and cooling?

[@kikibellebubba1248]

I dig the darker grey hoodie!

[@ChuckBarron]

Me too....Thank You.. I was happy with new color.

[@MoneyMarcMes]

How do you know which wire is which?

[@ChuckBarron]

From this plumber it does not matter. I may have a different opinion out there on the technical side of this but It has always worked for me.. Its nothing but a fancy switch.

[@paulmarshall8012]

I have 2 nest thermostat very nice

[@ChuckBarron]

ok cool. Thanks Paul

[@longbeach.bradlydalmatian6130]

I just turned mine on , it put the house to 95degrees

[@ChuckBarron]

oh snap...lot of heat to catch that stat up to your setting. it was cold last night

[@outsidedog59]

Alot of heat, cold night last night..mine hits ninety everytime, big oollldd, two story home, nat.gas radiators, is it better to leave the heat up, furnace running overnight, or shut her down like we do? Were also at 60, or 90 farenheit, ....

[@dan020350]

💚

[@ChuckBarron]

nice.

[@BeulahRWalker]

Would Love to Order a Hoodie? Size Large

[@ChuckBarron]

I am in process of getting a goods store going. A slow process but its coming. Your in for sure when it happens. Thank You.

[@weenus99]

Be nice to see how you put wires into it 8

[@ChuckBarron]

roger that.

[@jeffcoolhd]

Good job plumber. Peace brother

[@ChuckBarron]

Ya Man....Happy Sunday Playa!!

[@JamesBrown-db9pk]

ole chucky try the breyburn used long time no probs see if u have them there in jersey or get hold of chhrissy clan they have som

[@ChuckBarron]

Im a honeywell man but not married to them. I will look up your breyburns....thanks james

[@jonnytaylor5822]

Mercury is no longer used

[@ChuckBarron]

yes sir.

[@jamesmartin3914]

30 hour x 2 hrs + trip charge 100.00 + emergency/Saturday 75.00 + Honeywell T87 115.00 + shipping 15.00 = 365.00 not bad, lol

[@ChuckBarron]

and gas money with a big mac stop for sure included.

[@patricksimone1238]

The old thermostat is bullet proof,my old man refuses to change them to digital lol

[@ChuckBarron]

Dads always right....Cb2 you hear this? AB you here this? Happy Sunday Pat.

[@LizzieCandelario]

I can’t see up close what you were doing

[@ChuckBarron]

my bad....next time

[@joshmcfate9687]

Was that just a boiler? Or a combi? Good ol Navien things are beasts!!! 😂🤙🏝😂🏄

[@ChuckBarron]

Combi-ncb 240. She purrs like a kitten.

[@victoza9232]

0:01 Chuck, you seem surprised that you're shooting video of yourself.

[@ChuckBarron]

I scared myself. lol

[@maryrnbsn5114]

He doesn't show the wiring inside

[@deborahcook1248]

you didn't explain the wiring that's the part thats got me confused

[@ChuckBarron]

Let me go check it out. stand by

[@matthewmaida8961]

how did anybody see anything with the wording going right through where I need to watch

[@ChuckBarron]

complaint department closed for covid...lol

[@matthewmaida8961]

@@ChuckBarron I guess very true LOL

[@EmotionalOrder]

Why didn't he explain where the fuck he put the red and black wires when there is tree slots?

[@ChuckBarron]

What ya need Luis? now now on the fbombs.....

[@throttlebottle5906]

we'll let the wrong terminal/wire slide. lol

[@ChuckBarron]

CB2.....I needed his young buck eyes....lol

[@LoveintheSon]

Jesus saved my life and soul. Freed me from alcoholism and suicide. Jesus is my Lord and Savior. Confess Jesus as Lord and Savior you’ll be eternally saved.

[@barrymaley6857]

Doesn't show how to connect wires.

[@luiss.7659]

Time is running out wtf

[@ChuckBarron]

like a bomb! oh no!!!!!!!

[@JamesBrown-db9pk]

get some better eyes cb1 i had a white rogdes same crap com on stat makers get some bettr words so i can see them weold crusty plumbers need help seeing

[@ChuckBarron]

me eyes are tired like that old stat....lol

[@rogeliolopez2190]

Next thing you know they make a thermostat bigger than the wall so all the letters fit

[@johnmeyers1680]

Camera too far away…couldn’t see what the heck you’re doing!

[@throttlebottle5906]

old looking, but not reliable anymore as they are also electronic junk and yes they have a battery. /me look sand points at the ancient mercury bulb honeywell on the wall........ it works and has for over 35 years since install =p infact, I'd break someones neck over it if they broke it ;)

[@ChuckBarron]

Love at first site. I always liked the T87 also.

[@Utrevj]

Terrible … no close up to see anything.

[@ChuckBarron]

a feebie though. ha