Hoodwinked (Musical Hell Review # 135)

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[@johnvinals7423]

One thing I do think is really cool about this movie is that the people who created it made it a “Little Red Riding Hood” movie because they didn’t want to rehash a fairy tale Disney had already done.

[@MovieFan1912]

It is admirable that the makers of this movie put in the effort to make something original. Really, I blame Harvey Weinstein and his cronies for screwing with this movie about as badly as he did those women.

[@robbiewalker2831]

Well actually, Disney technically did do a Red Riding Hood story, but it was a crossover with the Three Little Pigs.

[@ryanschwartz4959]

You know, it doesn’t surprise me the Weinsteins tried to form-fit this movie to their vision. They tried to do the same thing with the English dub of Princess Mononoke, but Miramax and Disney’s agreement with Studio Ghibli prohibited cutting or altering even a single frame of the animation apart from translating the title and credits, so Ghibli producer Toshio Suzuki sent the Miramax executives a katana that said “No cuts” to get his point across

[@erikdaniels0n]

They also did this with the American dub of Doogal. They apparently took the original UK version, The Magic Roundabout: The Movie, and completely rewrote the script and had it dubbed over. The results were abysmal

[@Volvagia1927]

@@erikdaniels0n Also: Breckin Meyer dubbing over Roberto Benigni. Even if you don't like Benigni, that's obviously, heinously, BAD casting.

[@robbiewalker2831]

It’s very weird reading this, considering Disney also did a fair share of censoring, mostly with Pom Poko, and referring Tanukis as Raccoons, rather than *Raccoon Dogs* (which is a more accurate definition of their species, saying they’re dogs that look like fat raccoons); and I don’t know if saying pouch is less offensive than sack, especially when referring to their testicles.

[@gracekim25]

@@erikdaniels0nI’m so sorry that happened. Americans didn’t need their intelligence insulted by a awful and frankly unnecessary redub🤦‍♀️

[@tylerfish2701]

You know Harvey Weinstein got in trouble when one of the biggest companies in animation says no to his demands.

[@dunes8817]

The art style almost makes the wolf look like a scottish terrier.

[@thecinematicmind]

Oh yes.

[@disgruntledcashier503]

One of the jokes in the movie: Cop: Maybe he's not even a wolf at all! Wolf: You caught me, I'm a poodle. Just haven't been to the barbershop in a long time.

[@ivorynk752]

​@@disgruntledcashier503 Oh, I actually like that joke.

[@davidanthonymercado7064]

This is the best and only animated movie of the Weinstein studios that I actually enjoyed. Sure the animation was extremely cheap and uncanny, but the writing and characters made it personally enjoyable for me.

[@valiantchris6456]

"There is no Hoodwinked sequel, Diva." I said while smiling creepily.

[@viviennemorgan7217]

disappointed sigh there is.

[@queenofdorks9364]

​@@viviennemorgan7217You obviously haven't seen Avatar...

[@viviennemorgan7217]

@@queenofdorks9364 yes i did and i used to watch it.

[@viviennemorgan7217]

@@queenofdorks9364 what does this video have anything to do with avatar?

[@queenofdorks9364]

@@viviennemorgan7217 The commenter above made an avatar reference that must've flown over your head. Cause you took the joke seriously.

[@cooperross9495]

I'm sorry, but this is a cherished part of my childhood that even the fires of hell cannot burn away.

[@tomlinson1710]

I agree

[@rosykindbunny1313]

I don't care what Diva says, the humor is God tier. The part with the goat suddenly speaking? Genius.

[@LucyLioness100]

Agreed here also. I grew up with this movie and have a soft spot

[@cyburnman27]

@@rosykindbunny1313 i love that part too love that goat best singer of the show

[@disgruntledcashier503]

There was an interview where Sondheim said that mysteries don't make very good musicals, because the climax of a musical has to be emotional, and the climax of a mystery is, by nature, intellectual. I give credit to Hoodwinked for throwing the gauntlet.

[@amiefortman7220]

You know what, with that in mind, I'd like to see if somebody could make a good musical out of "Murder on the Orient Express". There's still the intellectual value in uncovering the truth and ruling out all the red herrings, but the motivation for the murder itself is an *extremely* emotionally-driven one, and uncovering it has a lot of emotional fallout for both the suspects and Poirot himself since he has to choose whether to let his compassion or his sense of justice win out. You could get some good "Les Mis"-style solos out of it, and I feel like a really clever composer could hide clues in the motifs and lyrics of the songs themselves.

[@disgruntledcashier503]

@@amiefortman7220 Murder For Two is also a mystery musical I think really works

[@ryanschwartz4959]

That… would explain why some mysteries adapted to musicals (like Phantom of the Opera and Jekyll and Hyde) downplayed the “mystery” aspect, especially when the twists are pop culture staples. Also, funny you mention that: this channel briefly mentioned a musical adaptation of The Mystery of Edwin Drood where the audience got to vote on who the culprit was. Each suspect even has their own confession song.

[@MovieFan1912]

@@ryanschwartz4959A mystery story where the audience gets to vote on who the culprit is? That sounds interesting.

[@ryanschwartz4959]

@caitlyncarvalho7637 Not sure about a musical, but I think it's already been adapted as a stage play.

[@trinaq]

I'm so excited that "Ugly Dolls" will be Diva's next case. So many projects have tried to capture "Lego Movie's" success, by basing an entire movie on a popular toy line, but it appears to have been lightning in a bottle.

[@joshraid1550]

Isn’t ugly dolls actually trying to be trolls?

[@mightyfilm]

The Lego Movie shouldn't have a monopoly on movies based on toy brands. But that's the problem, the copycats went with brands instead of lore (i.e. Transformers, My Little Pony, Trolls which really reinvented itself). Ugly Dolls would have worked if the characters were seen as off the wall, wacky menaces that drive everyone nuts. Think Rabbids crossed with Animaniacs. Instead they went with the tired, and stolen from Shrek, "ugly is skin deep" crap and just made something that looked preschooly and bland instead of the goofy brand the toys actually were.

[@thegayghost872]

Oh that’ll be fun. That movie was so bland

[@LaineMann]

Awwww but I like that film. 😭

[@gracekim25]

Yeah…i know that movie has fans and I respect the people who enjoy it, but as someone who enjoyed Trolls and the second sequel, I can still acknowledge the flaws regardless and it can be a tiny bit frustrating when fans think a movie they like is perfect when everything has flaws😅

[@ryanschwartz4959]

Another note about the songs: apparently, some of them were supposed to be longer (the full versions were included as extras on the original DVD release), but the Weinsteins had them trimmed due to believing audiences would be impatient with them. This is despite the fact they previously served as executive producers for the film adaptation of Chicago.

[@kenthuang436]

I found the extended cut of the Schnitzel Man’s song and I’m disappointed we didn’t get the entire thing in the movie. That was always my favorite scene in the movie because of how goofy it was as a plot point.

[@pennysanchez7656]

Like, the Be Prepared song from the goat was incredibly catchy and we get to hear parts of the first lines via the DVD release of Hoodwinked and the full song can be heard in the soundtrack.

[@DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose]

Regardless of what anyone says, the Goat's "Be Prepared" song (not to be confused with "Be Prepared" from The Lion King) is still iconic...plus I can't believe how long it took me to realize David Ogden Stiers (Cogsworth, Ratcliffe) was the voice of Nicky Flippers. 😆🐸

[@fANYA_KOPlan]

I was already a teenager when I saw the movie and I was wondering if I was weird for knowing this song by heart. As it turns out, a lot of people know it too Х)

[@frankieseward8667]

This was quite a sleeper hit. With a better visual style this could've been a classic. Also Harvey deserves everything coming to him.

[@viviennemorgan7217]

i like this movie

[@EvieRawlings]

I loved Hoodwinked as a kid (the first one-even as a kid I hated the sequel) so I was so sad to hear about this troubled history as I got older.

[@kali3665]

Well, Diva, how about this for a punishment - force the Weinsteins to eternally watch crappy syndicated versions of their own anti-classics, but spooled to run BACKWARDS. And you can start with the theatrical cut of Color of Night. But remove the nude scenes because, you know, hell....

[@joshraid1550]

Also he’s a rapist so ensuring he never sees boobs again is pretty fitting.

[@ZoanBlade90]

*So, let it be recorded.*

[@kittygardenva2741]

Wait Hoodwinked is a musical? Huh, you learn something new everyday.

[@elsie8757]

Right?? I saw the movie in theaters and _I_ didn't even realize (or forgot) it was a musical!

[@GameToon605]

The director's (Cory Edwards) brother Todd wrote the songs.

[@viviennemorgan7217]

nah

[@Idontwantomakeupahandle]

I remember laughing in the theater when the “Red is Blue” song came on. I have a special place in my heart for this train wreck.

[@brokengirlsrus]

This movie came out when I was 10 and my brother and I watched it endlessly to the point where I can quote portions of it easily and know all the songs. I was a simple child though and it was very charming to me and little me... didn't need much else. Watching this review made me realize how janky the animation was which clearly I didn't care about when I watched it a thousand times as a child. But I still think it held up. It's cute, funny and original.

[@felisd]

Animation and Weinstein issues aside, I actually enjoyed this movie

[@ryanschwartz4959]

5:52 Note to self: always keep and securely store backup copies of whatever documents I may need to support my livelihood

[@tylerfish2701]

Surprising fun fact: The Weinsteins barely had any interference with this film. The closest they had to it was recasting some of the actors. Other than that, they gave the film crew enough creative freedom to do what they wanted with the movie, even helped out some of the sound effects, which is honestly surprising to say about them. The production of Hood vs Evil and Escape from Planet Earth however, that was when the interference started.

[@fad23]

I saw this movie at its premier after meeting Patrick Warburton that afternoon at a nearby comic book store. I absolutely adore it and stand by it to this day.

[@Princess_-gp3ep]

To me, this movie is barely a musical, But it’s still underrated. I first saw this film on Cartoon Network.

[@seancarroll136]

And I met Patrick Warbutron at Comic Con three or four years ago, and told how his role as the wolf made that movie my favourite!

[@seancarroll136]

And I met Patrick Warbutron at Comic Con three or four years ago, and told how his role as the wolf made that movie my favourite!

[@thegeekchurch3893]

I kind of wish this one didn't appear on your show. Personally, I was surprised at how good this movie is. I actually think I like it the more I see it. I think the changing perspective is done well, because most films targeted for kids don't try to do a story like this. Sure, it's pretty obvious that Boingo is the villain, and I think the songs are more parodies rather than actually original hits, but many of these can stand on their own. I will agree with you on the animation.

[@seancarroll136]

How is Diva not in hot water on the internet, yet? Jim Sterling got rightfully shamed for hating Scott Cawthon and his wife who was pregnant back then, about his reasons on supporting Donald Trump.

[@mcwyman7928]

Even though the look of this film is.... a bit crunchy, to put it mildly, there is still something admirable about it. You can tell a lot of effort was put into the script and even though the execution isn't perfect, the concept is actually really interesting and fun. With more polished animation I could easily see this being a genuinely fondly remembered gem. It's not Into The Woods or even Shrek as far as fairy tale reimaginings, but at the very least it does stand apart as its own thing.

[@BrightWulph]

Thing is, a lot of people still do have a soft spot for this movie, mostly due to the fact, despite studio meddling, a lot of time and effort went into the script and performances.

[@kenthuang436]

I thought it sounded like the actors had a lot of fun recording their lines. You can tell Patrick Warburton is definitely getting into being the Wolf and Andy Dick is most definitely hamming it up and he isn’t as annoying as he usually is when he gets to be overly dramatic.

[@jeremyusreevu237]

I personally think this movie is pretty cool. The animation aged like milk but the humor in this movie is really funny, and it does a great job subverting the typical Fairy Tale tropes.

[@erikdaniels0n]

Damn, Jeremy, I see you everywhere

[@schwarzerritter5724]

The animation of Hoodwinked has not aged at all; it was as bad back then as it is now.

[@AMultipolarWorldIsEmerging]

The animation was that way bc they sent it overseas it wasn’t deliberately bad. Also learn a new phrase I’m so tired of people speaking in cliches. You’re intelligent enough to understand that this subverts typical musicals but still take lazy mental shortcuts and use “aged like milk”

[@packerchu]

Then go to bed. This isn’t a class, Diva would be the teacher- NOT YOU, and no one’s being paid by you to conform to your guide.@@AMultipolarWorldIsEmerging

[@kenthuang436]

The movie at least had an original idea with the story of Red Riding Hood isn’t as it all seemed to be and gave Granny a more active role and not some weak old lady that is senile.

[@kenthuang436]

One movie Diva *needs* to do a review for before ending this series is the 1974 Jack and the Beanstalk anime adaptation. It’s so bizarre and has flaws yet it is a clever interpretation of the fairytale and even has some recognizable voice actors from earlier anime English dubs in it. This also has one of the most insane musical moments to ever be in a kids movie and it makes the Greedy scene from Raggedy Ann and Andy look like Under the Sea.

[@eoghanfeighery7383]

I kinda want to see Diva review Wish (Disney) and Aaliyah Princess of R&B. Since the latter is pretty awful from what I've heard even by LifeTime movie standards (for lack of a better term). And for Wish, well let's just say that movie is a clear sign that Disney needs a massive wakeup call.

[@gamestation2690]

@@eoghanfeighery7383A wakeup call to do what?

[@DeepEye1994]

I hope she covers "The Real Shlemiel" (1997) bonkers confused plot and all over the map songs

[@gamestation2690]

@@eoghanfeighery7383 A wakeup call to do what? The movie is pure Disney. What more can you ask for?

[@gojirafan0577]

Fun fact: apparently the animation style of this film was inspired by the holiday films done by rankin bass make of that as you will!

[@geardog24]

So Hoodwinked did the surprise villain trope better than Disney. Not that it was all that difficult.

[@cartooncritique6625]

Not only did they do it better...they did it first.

[@1993digifan]

@@cartooncritique6625 But the first twist villain from Disney was Rourke from Atlantis, which was released in 2001 four years before Hoodwinked.

[@cartooncritique6625]

@@1993digifan He was supposed to be a twist villain? 😂

[@chrisbrasel8060]

Disney did a few twist villains before committing to them over traditional villains in the 2010's but Hoodwinked actually made one that works as a twist villain with good writing. Frozen may look pretty but Hoodwinked has a better written villain.

[@stephysteph8558]

@@chrisbrasel8060yes - everything with the Bunny makes more sense when you know he’s going around sowing chaos and trying to get the book. As Diva said, he’s clearly reaching for the book when Red falls out of the cable car. How he treats the other characters is consistent with keeping them unsuspecting and not threats.

[@joshuacritchfield3564]

The best joke not told by Patrick was the, "we don't arrest people for being creepy" joke. I believe, Nicky Flippers was a reference to Nick Charles the Thin Man detective. Note his little mustache and dog. In the movies his wife would refer to him as "Nicky."

[@greyscaleanon7551]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's supposed to be a Nick Charles reference, too.

[@stephysteph8558]

The animation has degraded without the benefit of 2000s nostalgia. But I still laughed unexpectedly hard at some of the physical humor. I don’t know why but throwing the squirrel in grannie’s face was entertaining. I do like that small details are recontextualized from retelling to retelling. Such as the supposed knitting needles turning out to be ski poles. I didn’t think it was Red under the hood as a kid but that the reveal was supposed to be more “oh no that’s not Red who stole her hood?” But we all knew it was that damn bunny.

[@minako10]

Oddly enough this film is fondly remembered by mexican audiences thanks to its slang heavy dub and because comedian Manuel "El Loco" Valdéz "reprised" his role of the big bad wolf decades after having played the same character in two film adaptations of Red Riding Hood back in the 60s.

[@jdrvargo287]

Amazing how a good dub can really help a movie or show.

[@robbiewalker2831]

6:52: Something tells me Diva actually likes Jedeth’s Be Prepared song, which btw, like a lot of songs in this movie, was condensed for the runtime. 9:53: Oh, I get it, that’s why the commercial he was auditioning for has him dressed as a woodsman, because Paul Bunyan (which the cream was named after) is a Lumberjack. 12:02: I’d argue that Hoodwinked is not a Roshomon narrative, because all narratives aren’t liars. I’d say this narrative device is more equivalent to Sonic Adventure 1&2 (and to a lesser extent, Heroes and Sonic '06), where upon hearing all the narratives, we get an extra story for completion. Overall: I’m surprised you were being generous of Hoodwinked to not get a punishment for reaching 7 sins, because I bet the story would’ve faired a bit better, if Sins 5 and 6 weren’t in it; which are the only complaints that I have to agree on.

[@timothymclean]

6:52: It's by far the worst song named "Be Prepared" in an animated kid's movie with a large predatory mammal in the principal cast. 12:02: I think it works better in Sonic because each version of the same events comes with a different set of movement mechanics to move through the level. Hoodwinked, being a movie, doesn't have that.

[@BasilLecher]

I actually really love this movie. The plotting was fun and scratched a teenage itch for weird Rashomon style mysteries that I had never known existed before. Also, this followed by Over the Hedge got me listening to Ben Folds.

[@frisbyart]

I’m so glad you’re doing Ugly Dolls next! This movie was so saturated in the “they’re ugly outside, but beautiful inside” trope that I think even PRESCHOOLERS would have a hard time enjoying it. Possibly just babies. That aside, I was never brought growing up, but I did immediately catch how the bunny was clearly the villain of the story the second his expression changed as Red fell out of the cart. Also, one of the sins should’ve been how the movie doesn’t even have enough songs to justify being a musical.

[@thegreatstoneddragon9432]

I remember back then, when I watched this, that I didn't really mind the animation because i thought the story was pretty good. Looking at it now.....yeah, much harder to ignore.

[@sauldiaz2380]

I forgot Hoodwinked! was a musical

[@scylla1772]

I will sing two short praises of this movie: 1) the the uncanny animation did an excellent job at making Boingo look a little creepy. Those soulless eyes really sell the vibe of a serial killer bunny. 2) the movie's title drop was actually pretty great. He seemingly addresses both Red and the audience, the latter of who (supposedly) haven't figured out he's evil. Plus, it doesn't feel shoehorned in. The rest of the movie was actually so forgettable that I forgot it was a musical...

[@strawberrysoulforever8336]

My parents knew who Harvey Weinstein was and kept trying to correct me whenever I mentioned Harvey Fierstein (no, Weinstein did NOT play Edna Turnblad on Broadway). This movie is a bit of a guilty pleasure for me. 2:57 Okay, that thing is creepy, and I've got a photo of a real life Slappy dummy from a magic store (if you don't know, he was originally a Goosebumps antagonist, a little ventriloquist dummy who would come to life if certain words were spoken and played cruel pranks, letting his owner take the blame, and then trying to enslave them, and he got so popular, actual dummies of him were made and he was also the main antagonist of both Goosebumps movies).

[@milapartment]

dont forget to mention the film maker's stated inspiration for this film was pulp fiction and rashomon. not a joke. andy dick as the bunny rabbit, this movie is so unhinged, i genuinely love it

[@kenthuang436]

Andy Dick getting to be over the top and not come off as being completely irritating is actually a pleasant surprise much like Gilbert Gottfried’s yelling is tolerable when he played Iago compared to other roles he’s had using the same voice.

[@newbiegamelover4767]

I honestly never really thought of this movie as a musical. I just saw this as a movie with a few songs: one that was meant to be a feel-good song, one that showed Kirk's passion for selling Schnitzel to the children, one pop number that was meant to be an obvious shoe-horn (plus a pun to tie into Red's current emotion), and one for the comedic villain effect. EDIT: I forgot about the goat's song. I just figured that was there for comedic purposes, like Boingo's villain song.

[@mitchbronson8240]

I was so obsessed w this movie as a child

[@ChrisOnStage2]

FYI: Detective Nicky Flippers wasn't supposed to be Hercule Poirot, he was modeled after 1940's detective, "The Thin Man", Nick Charles and his little dog, Asta (who's seen at 16:57)

[@disneytriviabuff8188]

I'll always have a soft spot for this movie not just because I loved it when it first came out but because I will always commend the Edwards brothers for making the most of what they had with what little they had!

[@joanahkirk338]

I really enjoyed this movie. It's nothing spectacular, but I find it fun. As a kid, I think the villain was a bit of a shock to me, I just assumed the rabbit was comedic relief. There's a lot to improve on, but it was pretty good overall. The sequel is the real bad apple

[@Hessed3712]

What was with early 2000’s movies having a hyperactive squirrel ? Hoodwinked Over The Hedge Nut Job Ice Age

[@rosykindbunny1313]

One time I was on a five-hour car ride, and the only thing to do was watch this movie over and over again. By the time we arrived at our destination, I had memorized the entire thing. And then I had to do the same thing on the way back home. Thanks, Diva, for digging up that repressed trauma.

[@thedatabase677]

I love this movie so much. It was one I watched a ton as a kid. Is it bad in retrospect? Yeah, but that only adds to my love for it 😂. Gonna go sing the Schnitzel song for the rest of the day.

[@lucasmiguel1498]

Happy New Year from Poland, dear Diva! Thanks for all your reviews!

[@littlepotohorrors]

Into the Woods they tried to make Without the funds that it would take Into the Woods, for Sondheim's sake, Is not an easy journey Into the Woods without the score, The characters and jokes and more, Into the Woods but it's a bore! Into the Woods but here comes Harvey!

[@gentlemanlygeeky4088]

Well done!

[@toric6005]

Even if the bunny is a lame villain he does have that great line telling Keith to change his name cuz it’s not scary enough😂

[@ErinHeartpenny]

I absolutely love this movie, despite its unfortunate distribution/producing credits. The creators did the best they could with such a low budget and the result was hilariously entertaining. I saw this is theatres when it came out and I can say I’ve never laughed so hard at an animated movie before or since. Bought the dvd. I never saw the sequel, I’m sure it’s terrible lol. This movie is definitely a hit or miss, but if you can get past its ‘sins’ it’s a diamond in the rough. 😊

[@anerdwithamic]

Diva, I just wanna say that I've been a big fan of you for a couple years now, and I absolutely adore your videos, they cheered me up a lot through some pretty stagnant times in my life. Thank you!!

[@johncoreyturner9914]

I'm dying cause I recently rewatched this movie with a friend and we both loved it and now it's a Musical Hell episode 😂😂😂

[@jasonblalock4429]

18:30 I would have gone with "Dick-of-all-Trades" myself. 😁Anyway, I dunno. For a low-budget flick, this one doesn't seem that bad. Even if it is just Baby's First Rashomon, there was clearly more work put into this script than most of the kiddie dreck you've covered. And I giggled a few times, from the clips. (Patrick Warburton is always a saving grace.) Although I do agree, Red's design is just... unfortunate. I appreciate them not trying to sexualize her, but turning her into a pouty potato probably wasn't the right call.

[@kenthuang436]

All of the actors sound like they’re enjoying their roles. The voice acting is certainly better than even some good animated movies.

[@MrBookworm01]

I first saw and enjoyed Hoodwinked when I was a kid and it premiered on Cartoon Network, but I can agree that it's far from a perfect movie and as always, I enjoyed hearing your take on it. As for the next review subject, while I haven't watched Ugly Dolls, I've listened to most of the soundtrack and actually enjoy a lot of the songs on there (Broken & Beautiful, in particular, has become something of an anthem for me.) Still, it'll be interesting to see your critique and to see how what kind of From Justin to Kelly joke(s?) you'll come up with 😂

[@Shadowluigi-pj9nq]

Even though the animation isn't great, I always liked this film. I think it's just very nostalgic for me

[@cannibalisticrequiem]

I think I have a good Musical Hell punishment for The Weinsteins: Getting tied up and being forced to sit through a never-ending one-man show of Andy Dick's stand-up comedy and musical stylings.

[@thecinematicmind]

I agree with this punishment

[@kenthuang436]

Addition to the punishment: Andy Dick is perpetually high on drugs and fueled by alcohol and he is now immortal!

[@wattsink2009]

19:51 Yay! Dick Tracy has made an appearance in Musical Hell! 🤩 For those who don’t know, this is one of the most unique and criminally underrated comic book movies of all time! Considering the songs for it were written by Stephen Sondheim, I’m surprised Diva hasn’t given it a review yet! 🤔 (Hint! Hint! 😉😉)

[@SpamEggSausage]

did you know the "More" song Madonna sings in that movie was originally written by Sondheim to be in a totally different show sung by Bette Midler?

[@wattsink2009]

@@SpamEggSausage I did not know that. 🧐 Fascinating!

[@TheSantaCruzJokerShow]

I love this freaking movie, it came out when I was like 14 and I thought it was hilarious

[@jkvictus8965]

I always saw the Nick Frog character as a take on Nick Charles. This would include the parlor room interrogation hoping a suspect would crack.

[@DanaOtken]

This is an example of a good story beating any weaknesses in the presentation. I'm glad I got a copy on disc - it's worth preserving.

[@kenthuang436]

The movie definitely had an original take on Little Red Riding Hood and I do like the idea of telling of different sides to the same story being different still fitting together and not becoming a jumbled mess. Usually that sort of thing ends up with plot holes and continuity errors in what happened during the events and what is the outcome of said events. The third ending of Clue is the best example of how trying to combine several characters’ actions that all happened in a short period of time that connected to the main story can go wrong.

[@DanaOtken]

@@kenthuang436 Had to think about this, because I had a similar reaction yet can't argue with this video's premise that failing to include sufficient narrator bias seems to waste the framing. Upon reflection, I realized that most of the successful revisits of the "Rashomon" concept work because they use a known cast of characters with known biases: reliably unreliable narrators. This saves an extra round of revisiting everybody's stories to explain and correct them, as well as only providing the audience with discrepancies that actually matter and can be explained rather than what you'd get if going for realism. Barring either taking more time out of the plot for exposition or building up all the characters before the plot starts to avoid the need for exposition, you've got a choice. Either sacrifice the intellectual satisfaction of a plot that fits together cleanly for the sake of greater emotional range, or flood the narrative with expression and accept that a lot of little details will never make sense from the wider perspective. Given the issues this particular work was struggling with, I think they made the right choice.

[@ericjanssen394]

Seeing “Funny Girl” trending on Broadway always makes me search Diva’s backlog of videos, as I’m always somehow convinced she MUST have given the downbeat, overbearing slog of 1975’s “Funny Lady” its well-deserved judgment by now. 😈 In the meantime, however, never fear, she’s here to protect us from two more low-rent CGI kiddy cartoons. 🤦‍♂️

[@kamilee4123]

I remember this movie only in like, patches and sections. It feels like a fever dream, I think I saw this at a party at my parent’s friends house where a bunch of their friend groups’s kids were.

[@erikdaniels0n]

Yeah, sorry, Diva. I’m gonna have to disagree with you on this cause I love it. Is it dumb? Hell yes. Is the animation bad? ABSOLUTELY. But there’s a charm to it that’s undeniable

[@kgrose102]

Hoodwinked fumbled so badly, so that Knives out could Soar.

[@frauleinfunf]

As much as I hate looking at the character models in the movie, it does at least vaguely resemble a play I did in high school called 'Red vs Wolf' where the first half was the standard story, but the second half was the story from the Wolf's point of view where Red was a huge brat and the Wolf and Granny (the role I played) came up with a scheme to scare her straight basically (It was a children's play, every year when we couldn't use the stage in the gym due to basketball season we'd do a children's play and tour around the local elementary schools). So it gets some points from me for indirectly making me nostalgic.

[@jackwells8107]

I think you summed this up just right. I got it from Netflix on DVD and promptly forgot about it until I saw you reviewing it.

[@benjaminyates7889]

Xena and Hercules The Animated Adventure. You need to rip it apart!!!!!!!!!!

[@jonathantrent4469]

Give Hoodwinked some credit Diva, Hoodwinked was one of the earliest animated films I know that featured an extreme grandmother.

[@saiyasha848]

Ach, I liked this Movie. Watched it as a Child and to me, it was pretty much the first "Fairytale Subversion" i had seen, so it felt fresh. Might just be Nostalgia, but I'll always have a bit of a soft spot for this one. Not the Sequel tho. Talk about dropping the Ball.

[@bigfanofsb653]

Me reading the title: I mean it only has like 4 songs that are like less than a minute. Closes phone Me: Wait! Hoodwinked is good!

[@janebyrne6463]

I agree with you on Boingo, say what you will about twist villains like Fairy Godmother (Shrek 2), Hans (Frozen), or Lotso (Toy Story 3), but those twist villains stuck to their lanes.

[@jackmonaghan8477]

Tom Kenny was also on the list of VAs originally slated to play major roles in the movie but got recast. Oh and considering Tara Strong's recent racist and Islamophobic meltdowns on social media, in hindsight recasting her was the right call. Also, this isn't the first time Jim Belushi has replaced someone in a movie musical considering he took on the role of Patrick in the theatrical cut of 'Little Shop of Horrors' when original workprint and Director's Cut actor Paul Dooley was unavailable for the reshoots.

[@danielmalinen6337]

This movie has recently been declared lost media because the film company that produced it no longer exists and no digital copy has survived. If anyone has a physical copy of the movie, that would be valuable.

[@timothymclean]

What, Hoodwinked? I just did a quick Google search, and it seems to be available on Amazon Prime, Apple TV, Google Play, _and_ some piracy websites.

[@pringlebatch]

My sister and I repeatedly rented this movie from Blockbusters, but never got our own copy 😫

[@rosykindbunny1313]

I have it somewhere

[@Cinsavant]

I watched this as an adult well after watching Shrek...and I still really liked it. Now the sequel?

[@aflameinthevoid8047]

As a pre-teen in the mid-aughts, Hoodwinked absolutely had movie night schlock value.

[@kieranmahon4382]

Oh, this is a throwback to my childhood! I remember renting this from the library I think.

[@colleen4ever]

I was expecting this next Monday actually Diva. But as usual, you didn't disappoint! Fantastic review!! Ugly Dolls is next?! Oh yes yes yes yes!!!! Happy Birthday to me!!! Nicest present ever!!

[@dtc2024]

Musical Hell, I Saw that CGI Animation Movie when it came out in 2006, that frog name Nikki, you remeber the frog who got attacked by attackers who stormed the area

[@hirosoli]

I recognize they did they best with the budget they had. I adore this this film.

[@Cheezitnator]

I unironically love this movie. For all it's faults, it tried something different and I thought it was fun. The sequel can die in a fire, however.

[@garetkun808]

As a kid, the goat was the only thing that saved this movie for me.

[@afterdinnercreations936]

She did it....she actually did it.

[@daltonwilliams1723]

This movie is actually pretty good from what I remember. Still very early in that era of modernized fantasy that shrek inspired. Has a fun and creative energy to it The sequel on the other hand. That’s pretty bad.

[@davidanthonymercado7064]

The sequel sucks because the Weinstein Brothers were actually involved that time. Really says a lot though.

[@kenthuang436]

Also the release of the sequel was delayed really long time and it’s even more bizarre because Burger King released that series of kids meal toys to promote the movie several months before it was actually released. I think it was six months and I thought it was odd that here were these toys promoting some movie I didn’t know was coming out and couldn’t remember seeing an ad saying it was out in theaters or on home media.

[@toaofender]

I oddly enjoy this movie... ugly as sin, but I find the music entertaining and I'm a sucker for everyone telling the same story from different povs.

[@isaacthemonke233]

I just noticed there's straight up a furry in this movie. The Tiger Guy. All the other animals are just normal talking biped animals, yet out of all of them, the Tiger is just a dude in a fursuit. Guess they either ran out of budget to make new animal models or just thought it'd be funny or it's an inside joke within the crew.

[@MusicalHell]

Yeah, I have no idea what's up with that guy. It feels like the remnants of a character/joke that was cut sometime during development.

[@mackenziegivens6061]

So excited for the next case!!!! 😆 I've had my fingers crossed she'd do Ugly Dolls forever. If only to see her witness the sheer AWESOMENESS of "The Ugly Truth".

[@jdrvargo287]

"The Ugly Truth"? Brrrr...all I can think of is an awful and hell of sexist Katherine Heigl movie.😖

[@mackenziegivens6061]

@@jdrvargo287 Well here's hoping an absolutely killer villain song and a ✨ _Masterclass_ ✨ on how to make an entrance takes it's place. 🤞😊

[@stringtheories9820]

I truly love this movie. I hope Diva is kind.

[@greyscaleanon7551]

I gotta disagree with Diva about the cliches. One of the things I love most about this movie is that it uses the tired old tropes of the child/teen/young adult protagonist wanting a generic "adventure/more", the elderly character doing Nursing-Home-Unapproved activities, and the family friction and makes them all work together in a way that makes sense for the characters. She lists them as separate problems, but what makes them work is that they come together for a pretty solid subplot about generations underestimating each others' capabilities.

[@justagirl7094]

Nicky Flippers was actually a parody of Nick Charles from the Thin Man Movies

[@AWasteOfYourTime8205]

10:10 omg the kids are scary looking lol

[@dbibb]

Nickie Flippers is a version of Philo Vance by S.S. Van Dine. An old detective book and movie series.

[@joaocisne556]

before wathcing the video: this one is a bit of an guilty pleasure to me

[@cartooncritique6625]

This movie might not be the best, but I still have fond memories of it...which is more than I can say for the sequel. 😒 19:12 Indeed. Bugs Bunny would be very disappointed. 😑

[@martinpenamena6581]

Hope the next Christmas you can do a Musical Hell of The Nuttiest Nutcracker and Eight Crazy Nights.

[@fritzy8318]

Oh god please don’t make everyone suffer through 8 crazy nights. Like the animation and like one song is all it has going for it period. Even then the only good one has that godforsaken Whitey character ruin it. The rest lbrh would’ve been better suited to like a novelty album and not put to film. Technical Foul especially.

[@LaFemmeFictionale]

I remember watching this movie once on a car trip but I forgot all the songs except red’s and the goat song. But I was also like, 11. So.

[@grantcole1898]

I don’t care what people say about this movie! I love it!

[@grantdunn2544]

I can acknowledge now that it isn't very good, but there was a time when my young self thought yhis the pinnacle of cinema. I still retain some nostalgia for it.

[@yourclairygodmother]

First "Raggedy Ann" and now "Hoodwink"? I thought Musical Hell was about reviewing BAD movies though?

[@havenm6181]

Maybe it's because I didn't grow up with this movie, but I honestly don't see what the big woop is about. The humor and setting is great value shrek, and that singing goat drives me up the wall.

[@timothymclean]

I watched this movie as a kid, and...I swear, it did _not_ look this janky in 2006. Guess that's the march of time for you. (And maybe a dash of rose tint.)