NBA Power Rankings: Steph Curry & Warriors REBOUND, Zion & Pelicans + Pacers ceiling | Hoops Tonight

[@willlydon1863]

Jason I listen to almost all of your content but for you to mention Julius randle and basketball art in the same sentence is genuinely unreal 😂

[@MegaUltraSpiderman]

idk if i'm just stoned but your analysis today was especially well thought out and thorough great stuff jason

[@TheMumboGumbo]

As a pelicans fan i can tell you, you need to look into Karlo Matkovic. I didnt hear him mentioned here, he is going to play far more minutes this year than Yves Missi. And in our closing lineups we will play small ball. My projected lineup for that is DJ, BI, Zion, Trey, Herb. CJ gonna be 6th man of the year this year.

[@berserkmonk5331]

Pels rookie centers look pretty interesting. Matkovic looked good in summer league. Not sure how good his screens are or how his shot blocking will look like though. I have concerns for Zion at the 5. Against small teams, it should work fine, like against the warriors or kings or teams like that, but no way is it going to work against TWolves or Lakers or OKC. Zion is a pretty bad rebounder for his size, my concern would be that they would get destroyed on the boards.

[@qb335]

The Warriors This Off Season Gives Me The 2022 Feeling In My Opinion.👀

[@tiredbasketballfan]

The offseason has a similar feeling in my opinion too, but it feels like this time there's not enough top end talent to get by with just smart role player signings. I'd love to be wrong, but in the meantime trying to be realistic to avoid future suffering and regrets:(

[@jpbrewster02]

@@tiredbasketballfanno one respects TJD the way they should. Don’t forget he DOMINATED Giannis with 3 blks in 5 min, and POSTERIZED Wemby. Everyone wants to label him an “undersized big”, when in reality, he’s 2” shorter than the average big, but has a 33” in standing vertical which is 8+ inches more than the average big.

[@tiredbasketballfan]

@@jpbrewster02 I like him a lot, but.. What's your point

[@Whyypreeeeeeeeee]

Lol it really isn't. That 2022 team snuck up on teams in the playoffs because they faced either injured teams or young teams who didn't know how to win.

[@tiredbasketballfan]

@@Whyypreeeeeeeeee So if you think they weren't really good in 2022 and aren't gonna be good this year either why shouldn't there be a similar feeling

[@tylercastanedaiii5651]

💯 on point. Jason never disappoints

[@RWor1d]

Best stretch of parody since I’ve been a fan. Have to simply appreciate ball right now

[@jacobim94]

James Wiseman 😢😢😢 really hope this youngin gets better and thrives man as a warriors fan

[@rpark2109]

Mailbag: Although I don't always agree, you are one of the few that takes a thoughtful and thorough approach to analyzing basketball. My question: Jimmy Butler has recently been compared (by another KZbinr) to Lebron James in terms of style of play. Given how James and Curry played during the Olympics and the rumours about Butler being traded with the Warriors as a possible destination, how do you see the fit of Butler and Curry and do you believe that would make them a title contender this year. [Note: Of course this question assumes that Butler has a similar skill set/playing style as James and that the James/Curry fit in the Olympics can be replicated even if the talent is a tier below]

[@Yt.bert02]

New studio looks great !

[@VMONdaDON]

Lakers to me are not better than the pacers

[@thejewishpeople1970]

They’re not better than New Orleans either? If I’m being honest

[@tiredbasketballfan]

Hey Jason, thanks for keeping up the good content to carry us through the final stretch. Real basketball coming soon🙌 Got a 2 part mailbag for you - First, do you consider Steph's overall season this year or any substantial part of it as superstar level? The numbers you mentioned that would indicate a return to form (27pts, 45% fg%, 40% 3pt%) are almost identical to his actual season stats, and his pre-allstar (which is also pre-slump) numbers in 50 games are obviously better. Secondly, what other indicators will you be looking for beyond scoring volume and efficiency? We know that with Steph the box score is far from the whole story, and it was demostrated in this season as well. In the first 50 games, Steph was scoring like his normal self, but the team was all over the place, his net rating was almost neutral, and his defensive rating was atrocious. During his 'slump', the team actually resembled the Warriors a lot more, and they were winning his minutes by a substantial margin. Could we maybe try to estimate his 'bounce back' by a combination of individual return to form, and a more abstract team success around it?

[@a1hernandez30]

I appreciate the honest take on Kuminga. As a Warrior fan I hope he figures it out this season, but if not then it is time to move on and wish him success elsewhere.

[@Velveteenvision]

It’s funny that a down year for Klay is still better than lots of good nba players lol. He was the second highest scorer on the team last season too. He’s not the same player that he once was, but it isn’t fair to compare him to old Klay. He’s still far from being washed like so many people seem to think. Let’s not forget that he was extremely unhappy with the warriors. He seemed mentally checked out with one foot out the door because he knew he was leaving and that can have a big impact on a players performance. I think he will have a better season this year with the Mavs where he won’t be expected to be the second best player on the team.

[@tiredbasketballfan]

I think anyone who's not just intentionally hating or didn't watch them play knows that while he's not a 2nd option anymore, especially since even in his prime he wasn't a traditional one, that doesn't mean he can't be impactful in other roles

[@RamonSolis-o7e]

Man I wanna smoke 💨 whatever this guy is smoking 😂 great projections 🙌 😂

[@semi6544]

The issue with players playing when they shouldn't is they will forever be judged like they were healthy. Joel Embiid looked like he was wearing down at the end of the Knicks series. He shouldn't have played at all. He was a large man coming off of an MCL surgery. He came back too early and even took the team friendly option to make it back on time. If Embiid was looking out for his own career, he shouldn't have had surgery in the first place but then he wouldn't have been able to play until this October. He played injured and gets judged like he was healthy. Last year in the loss to the Celtics he came back early from the PCL sprain and shouldn't have been playing. Embiid is injury prone. In that same line of thinking Joel has played through injury and his playoff performances will be judged like he was healthy because he played. He wasn't healthy for most of his playoff appearances. To be real Embiid hasn't even been 80% for most of his playoff appearances. PCLs, MCLs, Broken hand ligaments, Broken Orbital bones, Bells Palsy, and even flus and stomach sicknesses. Bad luck and injury prone. He played through it when he should have sat. Embiid would have a better playoff reputation if he just didn't even play because his results are what an injured version of him would put up.

[@tiredbasketballfan]

I agree that the 'if you play you're healthy' approach is ridiculous, but specifically in Embiid's case, Idk if being known for never playing in the playoffs would've served him much better. Either way he's not there for his team in the most important part of the year, and that's what people have a problem with mostly

[@semi6544]

@@tiredbasketballfan -- Injuries are definitely the problem but people are turning it into Embiid not being a great player. Embiid under performed in the playoffs. People even believe Embiid isn't a top 10 player in the league anymore. The Sixers were 40W / 8L in the regular season games Embiid played last year. Embiid averaged over 1 point per minute played. Embiid was averaging 35 ppg before he had to have surgery. People are actually judging him on how he plays injured.

[@tiredbasketballfan]

@@semi6544 I think it's possible to argue that being a top 10 player requires more than potential and regular season dominance, people want to believe you're capable of taking your team to the ultimate goal. Whether it's injuries or other problems, he's 30 now and has yet to show he can be fully available, which might make him less valuable in the big picture than players who have a lower ceiling but have shown they can be there. At this point, trusting him is somewhat of a risky gamble. If he always plays injured in the playoffs, it's true that it shouldn't reflect on his overall ability. But if he hasn't shown he can get there healthy, it's reasonable to evaluate him in the context of the NBA season while taking into account that he's very likely to be injured by the time the playoffs come around

[@semi6544]

@@tiredbasketballfan -- You are probably right but that criteria is too subjective. I usually think of top 10 players as the players with the most talent and ability. There just aren't 10 players more talented than Embiid. Because of that talent we have the expectations we have. Because of that talent we can be disappointed.

[@jons1278]

In the Raptors 2019 season is that they were ALREADY going to rebuild/blow it up. The Derozan Lowry era was coming to an end. It's not "we have nothing after Kawhi left". It's that Toronto was always going to be bad for a while, and Masai finagled a championship out of the rebuild and delayed it by one season. Our core was comprised of some good young players and a lot of older vets. Make no mistake, the championship season was a blessing even considering the later years. We would have had the years of suck REGARDLESS

[@romeobodeodo]

Didn't talk about New Orleans' bench.

[@julianfoddrell9370]

Pacers needed mathurin for playoffs. I think people really understand how good mathurin can be. Him being healthy is important. Bucks had no chance against the pacers.

[@thejewishpeople1970]

I’m very high on Indiana. I think their defense is real, and people get misconstrued because of how high their pace is leading to more points per game. They’re going to score the basketball vs EVERYBODY and hopefully Halliburton won’t get hurt. I have them finishing third in the East behind Boston and Milwaukee ahead of both Philly and New York tbh. I’m also lower on Philly and New York than most people to be fair though.

[@LongJohnsilver-t7t]

I feel like people tend to overrate older players, sometimes. If we are projecting for next season I wouldnt be so bullish on guys like kd, steph, bron, harden... Regression, like progression isnt linear, guys make all star leaps or mvp leaps esrly in their careers, and guys go from all-nba players to fringe all stars overnight as well. I am very skeptical of the warriors, lakers, and suns for these reasons. Its been amazing to see guys like bron, kd, and steph defy the usual aging curve, but at some point they are gonna fall off. Given the load all 3 of those guys are expected to carry, on top heavy teams battling for seeding over 82. And the fact that theyre all in their mid to late 30s and have already been defying rhe odds for multiple seasons, im selling on the lakers, warriors, and suns. Theres about to be a big shift in the west hierarchy imo.

[@yahkeem1597]

Pelicans from IST loss to Ingram injury; 30-15, 4th in the west. Pelicans after Ingram injury 8-8, 8th in the West. So a healthy Ingram and DJ replacing CJ means regression? All because we’re replacing JV and Nance with athletic shot blocking bigs? Wow

[@angelxmoreno6477]

Anyone count how many times he said "Right?" 😭😭

[@bondinho6114]

😂😂

[@tarikbleak]

Gonna play a drinking game soon with this wish me luck

[@skipbrainless2732]

I would have loved a lineup from NOLA like: Dejounte Herb Trey Murphy Zion Wendell Carter with CJ on the bench They should trade BI and get some bench depth

[@EndgameXII]

Man. No Rockets in the top 20?? Over/ under 43.5

[@hardywoodaway9912]

seeing the warriors at 13th best team in the league and it reminds you of the 2022 offseason? seriously?😂

[@glovs4188]

Basing on history embiid have choked in the playoffs 100% of the time. So does PG. So. Morrey is probably hoping for that 1% chance of a haymaker. Lol😂

[@BillyOsborne-dy9ei]

Thank you for helping spread indy love. Everyone sleeps on us. Always have. They will be a 50w team if tyrese stays healthy

[@JDsilva7]

Ngl I'm taking all 3 teams from last vid over the warriors and pacers

[@Fast___Break]

You’re tripping man.. the pacers are going to be nice

[@otislamar8613]

Over the warriors yes but the pacers maybe but they had big additions mid season so to play a whole season together would probably be better

[@j0eyhz620]

Idk with curry, you always got a chance

[@whirlysquirrely3368]

We already knew this shit was coming.

[@iMacaroniCheese]

cant belive warriors are relying on podz and kumingas potential to help curry at this point of his age. Markannen was in front of their faces with his stats that shows how perfect he would be in warriors sytem style of play. getting markannnen wouldn't secure them a chip neither dallas are guaranteed that they will make another finals run with how much stack the west is but he was their biggest chance to get out of the play in and be a real contender in the playoffs.

[@tiredbasketballfan]

If they could just get a player they wanted by snapping their fingers, sure. In reality though, we have no idea how close or far from a deal they were, and how much of it was their fault. I don't care about them going on about 'Podz is the future', I don't trust any of this, they can have all sorts of underlying intentions for doing that. With Lauri not wanting to leave Utah and Danny Ainge probably asking for their entire roster and maybe their arena as a bonus, maybe it was never a real option. Point is, we don't know what happened. They're still positioned to do something, and it's frustrating when nothing happens, but they can't make a deal with themselves, they need the right target who wants to come and a reasonable or at least not outrageous asking price.

[@iMacaroniCheese]

@@tiredbasketballfan brother I like your comment for being neutral with the situation but let's just be hypothetical here. it's just a matter of question of would you trade your future and young guys on the team for a player to help your franchise player to contend in the playoffs to win another chip?

[@tiredbasketballfan]

@@iMacaroniCheese Short answer - yes. I'd risk the future for *truly* contending the next couple of years. Long answer - I just don't think this question is really that simple. The young guys are not just the future, they're also the present depth and some of them (sadly) are even among the present top players on the team. You can't give away all of them to be left with a depleted roster and an unproven second option to Steph. I personally *would* try to go all in on Steph, but only if it actually makes sense. At some point you might have to admit that giving up all the young guys for someone unideal has a high chance of ruining both your present and your future, and then what are we doing here. The reality is that they're not in a great situation, and the blame is definitely at least partially on them, but that's the situation we have to work with.

[@berserkmonk5331]

Ainge was never serious about trading him. He just wanted to entertain trades to feel what his value was. He wanted a Mikael Bridges type of haul for Markkanen. If the warriors were truly going to give up their depth and 4+ first rounds, And second rounds, and swaps( mind you, lots of picks in the Post Curry seasons), they probably should offer that for like Giannis. Markkanen is great, had 2 great comeback seasons in Utah. But he doesn't want to play Center, and he's never played in the playoffs( he's never been thrown into an environment where the defense ramps up).

[@iMacaroniCheese]

@@berserkmonk5331 i disagree, it's more like warriors were never serious about trading for markannen because if you saw shams report of warriors final offer to the jazz its not even close to the rumors nor what the jazz asked from them. I agree that jazz were asking too much but the warriors refusal to trade podz which the jazz were mainly asking for made this trade more not even close to happening. there's a big difference between the warriors and the knicks. knicks were willing to sacrifice their future in order to help their franchise player and the city to win a chip and warriors is not. hes never been in the playoffs because hes never been on a good team and injuries. draymond has been their center for the last two years he doesn't have to play at center. he's a good help defender at the rim, easily help draymond in rebounding wih his size, and you get a legit 2nd option in terms of scoring. markannen could've been their next franchise player in the next 5yrs based on his current contract and build around him. warriors should've immediately traded kuminga bfr jazz have realized that podz was the real prize. markannen would make more sense with podz than with kuminga. Trading away podz or kuminga for giannis or anyone else would not make any sense at this point. Giannis on the warriors will be just like dame and giannis in the bucks game doesn't just complement each other. curry needs like KD, markannen, or shooting big man like KAT who can pick and pop with him. while giannis needs a playmaker like trae, luka or harden that runs a pick n roll with him that makes him a lob threat and allows him to get easily close to the basket without isolating too much.

[@BeancatzRkool]

Warriors need to win those must win games. They would have won 50+ games last season if they don’t lose those supposed to win games. then they can finish in top 6.

[@SeunAdekoya]

I think Nembhard is a lot better than you’re giving him credit for but let’s see how he takes the next step this new season

[@bsimps7376]

Mailbag: If the Cavs stagnate or step back this season and decide to break up the core four, what do you think is the best starting 5/roster Cleveland can build by trading any two of Mobley, Garland, or Allen heading into 2025.

[@June-1980]

I think The pacers can definitely win the championship if Hali gets back to what we saw in the start of the season

[@nnam2397]

@@June-1980😂😂😂😂

[@808bAler]

Mailbag: Aside from Draymond nuking the season for GSW, I place far more blame on Andrew Wiggins for the way the season went. The last two seasons, Wiggins been putting in just enough effort to not get traded. Yes, Steph's stats went down towards the end of the season. I can't see how that shouldn't happen when every opponent knew he was the only real offensive option. My questions is: why isn't the topic of Andrew Wiggins turning into a pumpkin after the 2022 Chip and getting a raise being talked about?

[@michaeldean4394]

What is there to say about it? Nobody's giving him a pass. Most everyone has basically eliminated Wiggins as a factor because they expect the trash aspect to continue.

[@808bAler]

@@michaeldean4394 I have a feeling you're right. Talking trash about Wiggins being trash is like talking trash about Garuba, who simply didn't have a chance to play. Just a waste of energy. Good point.

[@tiredbasketballfan]

If you want to hear poeple being angry at Wiggins or at least critisizing him, go to any GSW platform and you'll find plenty

[@nathanseffernick4667]

Has there ever been a known super injury prone player that actually led a team to a championship? I'm looking up to 2000 and there hasn't. They don't need to resign him especially past 32. I get business angle, he'll sell you more tickets (hell with the news that they might move to new jersey, that might have prompted the extension), and there aren't that many players that have true superstar upside. There's no precedent for a player like embiid with as many goes at the postseason as he has, at his current age, breaking through that I can remember. Might as well start rebuilding, and wouldn't even be that bad since he'll trade for a mega haul. I want to be convinced otherwise.

[@AbcDino843]

Joel Embiid's contract shines the light on how underpaid Nikola jokic is.

[@taylor7264]

if embiid maintains what he was last yr he is v tradable on this new extension. if portland traded dame some1 will want joel too

[@ConnorDudley585]

if this is a new studio it looks great!

[@ConnorDudley585]

i’m assuming the shelves will be filled in more

[@dguy2hawks2]

No Hawks??? Just kidding. As a Hawks fan i think DJ Murray should be better on defense because he won't have to guard the best players anymore. When Vit Krecji came into the lineup, DJ didn't have to be POA defender anymore and the defense improved. My concern for the pelicans is the center position. Who is going to rebound and do the paint dirty work on defense?

[@taylor7264]

the slomo praise is justified but wasnt he just saying anthony edwards had no1 on his team that could make a play when the ball was forced out of his hands?? - slomo, conley, kat, naw count to me

[@tiredbasketballfan]

I'd say maybe we're talking about the difference between extending advantages and making smart decisions, which he can do, and straight up initiating offense or creatig his own shot, which you probably wouldn't feel great about

[@tucomtyler]

If it's me I'm definitely trading Joel Embiid, try to get 1st pick and go for Cooper Flagg. Then surround him and Maxey with rim protection and perimeter defence.

[@Whyypreeeeeeeeee]

@@tucomtyler that makes zero sense. So why give PG the max then? You kids really don't understand basketball 😭

[@tucomtyler]

@@Whyypreeeeeeeeee I wouldn't have gotten PG in the first place. He's another unreliable

[@williamroper5422]

Luka is always catching strays from this hater.

[@nickgtv_]

Bro think the lakers are a contender 😂

[@nicholaseaster58]

Pacers at 12 is nasty work. They're young and only gonna get better. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the make the conference finals against to face Boston.

[@ghettogov6161]

That places them at about 5th in the east. Not really nasty work when u have Milwaukee, Boston, new York, Philly and Cleveland. Then the west top 7 seeds will be flirting with 50 wins

[@matthewburke627]

Mailbag: Celtics just dropped some training footage of JT. Jumper looking good, was curious if you think that him losing some weight is factoring in to that?

[@Whyypreeeeeeeeee]

@@matthewburke627 you think he lost weight? He kinda looks the same. Only time will tell

[@andrewkraft2586]

Did he just say Dallas and Minnesota are in the middle group in the west?

[@williamroper5422]

Yeah I heard that ignorant bullshit as well. Trying to put the Mavs in the group with his overrated shitty Lakers really speaks to how badly his biases affect his judgement.

[@isaachardy4530]

Jason, love listening to the Pod! So great to hear actual intellectual basketball discussion instead of baseless arguments. You often talked in your Player Rankings about how they would be ranked differently if it was one playoff series or one game. I’m wondering if you would rank these teams differently if you were ranking based off a single elimination tournament?

[@logann2619]

My grizzlies are in the contender tier!

[@ralph7781]

What an awful list. Warriors/pacers/pels on top of sac/cavs??? Lmaoo oh my goodness

[@williamroper5422]

Dallas is not in the middle group with the shitty Lakers they are the top of the conference.

[@darrelstickler]

@HoopsTonight Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right?

[@drayz9655]

lol dude says that every other sentence .. right

[@YuleTaylor-l8g]

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[@harryweston294]

MAILBAG QUESTION: Who should be the Warriors starting five? Steph, Podz, Wiggs, Kuminga and Draymond are probably their best five, but is it really sustainable to start Draymond at the five all year? Seems like a group consisting of Steph, Melton, Wiggs, Draymond and TJD would give them the best chance to start games, with Podz and Kuminga coming off the bench. Thanks love the show.

[@tiredbasketballfan]

Tough question unfortunately. If Wiggins shows up I really like your suggestion, but it also depends on JK accepting coming off the bench and making the most of it. It might not be ideal if you truly want to see what JK can give you... But it's not like I have better ideas

[@MyMiniMovieMagic]

WAAAAAARRRRRRIIIOOORRRRRSSSSS

[@nnam2397]

Warriors are not even top 20. They were 9-21 against teams that were .500 or better. And most of the teams they beat last year got better. They didn’t add any significant talent to the roster also Steph declined on defense and his offense took a major step back. He looked cooked in the Olympics until those final 2 games. Steph at this age can’t carry an offense consistently he needs another star who can create easy shots for him like LeBron did at the Olympics. The warriors most likely miss the playin next year or 9-10 at best.

[@jpbrewster02]

They finished the year with the 3rd best record in the NBA for the last half of the season (27-14). Yeah, they’re “not even top 20” 😂

[@jonathanmendosa9023]

Bro said he NEEDS someone to create shots for him😭😭😭

[@darrenwall16]

@@jpbrewster02 You have look totality of the season. You are cherry picking stats.

[@-caspo-]

@@darrenwall16Half of a season isn’t cherry picking.

[@KohAccount-j4g]

If a team played the worse team in the nbs got an entire season they’d look great too

[@lol2go634]

I disagree partially with your take on the warriors. Like with Lakers and their terrible Record after IST in December. The Warriors were terrible in November and December due to many factor. First of all Klay and Wiggins start in Season. After their timberwolves Game til early January it felt like they did not play like team. Easy mistake. Just not what you saw before that point and after early January. It felt like a breaking point for the Warriors. During that time frame most of the top 10 netrating teams took place. Just Basketballwise if your 3rd and 4th player are just performing to not starting Level over 2 months you cannot win Games against top teams. Kumingas jump not to mention. They had the most frontloaded schedule in the League. Against OKC they lost 2 Games because they choked a lead. Kings IST they choked 20+ Lead. To say that they closed every realistically closeable Lead is wrong they choked many leads against top teams like Nuggets, Okc and so on. Your stat against 10 highest netrating teams is just misleading due to 52 Blowout by Boston. They did not sequeze every drop with how many Games were pretty much won if they played at the end of Games in November and December to a level that is a close to average level of play. Wiggins and klay did not seemed physically fit at begin of season. I watched closed to every Warriors Game. I believe that they will be 50+ Wins Team this Season. Maybe just bias but I see the Lakers lower than the Warriors.

[@tiredbasketballfan]

@@nnam2397 That's very true but in the past 3 seasons that didn't seem to lead the Lakers to a better regular season record, did it..? No matter what circumstances led to that, we can't ignore the facts - These teams have the same exact number of wins over the past 2 regular seasons

[@Whyypreeeeeeeeee]

My god, the amount of faith you put in the warriors is honestly laughable. IDC how many positive responses you receive from your viewer's in these comments, you're being extremely dishonest with your take on them. Besides Portland and Utah, i do NOT see the warriors as the 13th best team in the league when they are 13th in their own conference. You need to do BETTER. Stop judging Steph as if it's 2015-2017. He needs to score 40+ every game just for them to have a chance to win

[@nevermindthe90s]

Relax, they are 13th on the list man. I'm pretty sure they would get to the playoffs should they be in the East. And if so, they're in the last 16 and if so, he's off by maximum of 3 positions. Sheesh.

[@Whyypreeeeeeeeee]

@@nevermindthe90s but they're not in the east. So stop trying to downplay what I'm saying. I get it, you like/love Curry and that's fine. But this guy is just being extremely bias when evaluating him

[@yahkeem1597]

@@Whyypreeeeeeeeeea lot of these sports analysts find ways to prop(aganda) up their secret favorite teams and players, and pass it off as an unbiased opinion. I see it throughout the media. Funny thing is, the media gets to choose the award winners 😂 wild

[@andrewkraft2586]

I think Steph has become the most overrated player in the league. Look at his numbers last year. He’s declining rapidly. People are way too caught up in his last two Olympic gamess. The five before that he was nowhere to be found. That’s what you get from Steph now. Mediocre play for 5 games and great play for 2. Warriors should be around 20.

[@tiredbasketballfan]

It's very possible that he's on the decline but I wouldn't take too much from the Olympics. The setting is different in too many ways and the sample is too small to draw substantial conclusions

[@hansolodolo1672]

Steph has shown he can lead this team to the promised land. Wiggins needs to play better this year, and Draymond needs to keep his head on straight the whole season. They can make it back to the playoffs and upset teams. They have a roster full of guys that are on a contract year plus a motivated Steph that's being doubted. That's when the Warriors play their best. There is too much evidence that backs up my statements.

[@yohohoho1722]

Golden State Warriors will be the 2025 NBA champion! 🏆

[@RamonSolis-o7e]

Crack kills stay away from it 😂