15 hunting bullets I recommend!

[@8MM.PRC.HUNTER]

I'd say your description of each of these bullets was as good as anyone else could have done. We have lots of great choices available to us these days. For me, the Accubond combines very good accuracy with reasonably high bc along with good expansion as well as penetration. But there are several others that provide all of these qualities. Handloading gives you the ability to choose the perfect bullet for your specific hunting needs and preferences.

[@hopefulballistics]

I appreciate it!

[@JamesM-l5g]

The Absolute Hammer Hunters have even less pressure build than the standard Hammers. Now they are coming out with Tipped Absolute Hammer Hunters. Those should be an outstanding product!

[@hopefulballistics]

Very interesting

[@Snailz5]

If only they’d publish real BC numbers instead of whatever guesstimate they think will let the bullets sell.

[@fireboyandy]

Great overview. The beginning discussion on speeds/velocity and how that impacts the performance is very on point.

[@hopefulballistics]

Thanks I appreciate it!

[@CircleBrewery]

Growing up all I had access to was Winchester Remington and federal blue box … they all did the job. Now that I’m older I’ve been reloading Barnes and gold dot 168 grain bullets. I enjoy your videos thanks ☺️

[@hopefulballistics]

Thanks, I appreciate it!

[@andyherzfeld9492]

I've used them all and my go to bullets are the Swift A Frame for large heavy game. The Nosler Accubond or the Accubond LR if I know I will have long shots on large game. If I am deer hunting then I use the Hornady, Sierra game kings, Berger, Speer and Barnes.

[@hopefulballistics]

Makes sense, thanks

[@supdru]

Great video and some great bullets mentioned. I've used the 180gr TBT the first time this spring and as you've highlighted, it is indeed a tough bullet. Out of a 308 at 20 yards it went through the skull of a black bear and stopped in the neck near the off side hide. It was mostly intact.

[@hopefulballistics]

Interesting thanks

[@ccfdmd]

Nice review! You should tag this video with the one you did on cup&core vs mono vs bonded

[@jaydurtsche2569]

Sierra game king on dear and elk both with the 30-06 and 7 rem mag! This was a very good video, thanks

[@hopefulballistics]

Thank you!

[@davewinter2688]

If money was no object I would use Nosler Partitions but practicing enough with those is ridiculously expensive. Same for the Accubond line. I have one unopened box of .277 150 grain Nosler Partitions that I’ve been saving for a western states hunt. Actually in the last 50+ years I’ve killed more deer with the common Hornady 150 grain spitzer in my 22” barreled Ruger 77 270 Winchester at around 2800 fps than any other rifle I own. On my central Kansas farm I could have a 400 yard shot across a soybean field but more than likely less than 300 yards. 200 even more likely. I do have a couple of boxes of Barnes factory VOR-TX 270 Winchester with the 130 grain bullet labeled Tipped TSX BT that I took on trade. Claimed velocity is 3060 fps. I assume that is with a 24” barrel. The bullets have a blue polymer tip. I haven’t been able to determine if there is any difference between these bullets labeled “Tipped TSX BT” and those labeled “TTSX”. If I wanted to use them, my rifled liked them and I didn’t use too many getting them sighted in I suppose I could make them last a long time but have no intention paying the price of those things when I can hand load less expensive bullets that I can practice with and will be just as effective at any range I would shoot at which is generally not past 300 yards. Happy hunting boys and girls.

[@hopefulballistics]

I don’t think there is a difference in those bullets. Sometimes there is a FB (flat base) version that would be different. Thanks for the comment.

[@davewinter2688]

@@hopefulballistics I have read that only the 130 grain BT is loaded in the factory 270 but they make a flat base 150 grain 270 bullet for hand loaders. I’ve never seen any of those available anywhere.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

In some places, there seems to be a very strong opinion developing about monolithic projectiles vs lead. I think removing all the emotional stuff out of the way for a moment, there is no copper projectile that will perform as well as a lead projectile. I base that assertion in physics. A projectile is like a skyjumper parachute, you want a certain diameter chute to perform maximally with the air molecules around the chute in order to prevent the diver from crashing to the earth. Taking that same open chute and cutting voids around the perimeter, it will allow a lot more air molecules to escape disturbing, and the result will be the diver falls a whole lot faster. Using this little analogy on a different, much denser fluid (tissue, water, fat, etc) and a different parachute (expanding projectile), we would find it most effective to impart the hydraulic shock to the core of the game being hunted. The main advantage of a rifle over an broadhead arrow is hydraulic shock (and range, user accessibility of course). The less the expanded projectile looks like a mushroom "parachute" and more like the blades of a broadhead, the less hydraulic shock it's going to impart to the mass it's moving through. Physics. Copper malleability is very low by comparison, and BHN ratings very high, far above even super hard cast lead. The best it can do is fold some "wings" back from predesigned skived or split tips. Lead by comparison regularly expands to far greater diameters without any gaps in frontal profile, imparting maximum transfer of shock to fluid. That's just terminal performance, not even starting discussion about the challenges of smashing that hard material down barrel bores. Copper monolithic projectiles mainly exist because of rumors spread through conservationist groups about gut piles and predatory bird poisoning, and the unconstitutional laws created by Congress restricting certain states and regions. What's even more troubling is how certain bullet manufacturing companies profiteer off the rumors spread in these claims about lead poisoning, contributing to more unconstitutional restrictions. They preach the end of lead projectile use, about like the auto industry wants to preach about the demise of the combustion engine. It's hyperbole and based in propaganda. Terminal ballistic facts are very absent these sort of discussions as most of the claims about the issue are an impossibility in the realm of physics. Lead doesn't explode, shatter to powder or thousands of bits. There's simply not enough terminal resistance in game to promote this. Rapid expansion can thin out a mushroom profile enough to where the energy remaining will split the section into pieces, but there's no explosion of dust or fragments in meat. Animals are not an AR500 plate or a bucket of water. Bones are not rebar or sheets of ceramic. I have also heard (cannot verify) that predatory birds have feasted on lead paints found on the facilities of rangers in the areas of focus by the media and animal rights groups. That would make much more sense than the sort of toxic effects from a few bits of lead here and there in animal carcasses left, before all the rodents, coyotes, and insects have eaten a lot of it. Reminds me of squirrels chewing wiring in houses due to the insulation being made of soy products. Also one lead isotope isn't the same as another. There has to be an intercellular or tissue absorption to affect animal nervous systems. Bits and pieces of lead just isn't going to absorb like that.

[@hopefulballistics]

Thank you for sharing this information and your perspective

[@mikewaldner4300]

Tryed the eld-x 110 gr in my 25-06 core separation bullet didn’t stay together penetration was horrible . Went to the accubond way better bullets stay together no blow ups pricey but it’s worth it.

[@hopefulballistics]

I hear that

[@doylethorn9251]

My all around bullet for my '06 is the 165 Accubond. My 280 Remington do all bullet is the 160 GameKing. It's interesting to note that BC doesn't start showing an advantage with same weight same velocity bullets until you get passed around 300 yards.

[@hopefulballistics]

Good comment, thanks

[@bradweaver2215]

Nosler partition quality is a plus, cost is a big negative. Speer line is great bang for your buck. Was Speer Hotcor now Impact 172 in 30-06. Waiting patently for one in .338 for the Win Mag.🤞🙏

[@williamgaines9784]

Speer makes a .338 200 gr Hot-Cor, you just have to load it yourself.

[@shovelhead2155]

180 grain Federal Fusion in 30-06 has a .497 BC. Thats pretty good. It keeps 1403 ft/lbs/1874 fps @500 yards

[@hopefulballistics]

That is good

[@shovelhead2155]

@@hopefulballistics Can't wait to see what the Fusion tipped BC is

[@davidnave4349]

sierra Game King , N- BT Hunting bullet are may absolut fav's and have taken Tons of game from pronghorn to Bison.

[@hopefulballistics]

Nice

[@ronlowney4700]

🕵️‍♂️ Oh, and Let's Not Forget the Woodleigh Weldcore Bullets (Now That the Factory Has Been Rebuilt)! 🥳

[@afader6898]

The pointed woodleighs are excellent bullets, the round nose are velocity based, velocity recommendations on the box, and if pushed to hard, over expand into marbles, and lack in the penetration department, I've recovered a few

[@JD.307]

I've used a lot of cup and core bullets and they performed fine if you run a heavy bullet at slow speed. However, the higher BC more secant profiles don't group well in the semiautomatic rifles that I prefer. I've finally quit being cheap about hunting bullets and switched to Barnes TTSX and Nosler ABLR, couldn't be more happy with their performance. ✌

[@hopefulballistics]

Right on!

[@galenhisler396]

Hornady ballistic tip i think 40 yrs ago, Remington core locks, winchester failsafe. All my bullets went straight through . Longest shot 300 yds white tail Longest shot moose 169 yds

[@hopefulballistics]

Thanks

[@JamesM-l5g]

Good info. Pretty much goes right in line with your history of videos, obviously. But do believe the Hammer is designed to exit the off side after losing the tip. For me, that’s the best of both worlds. I’d rather have larger satellite pieces of copper that help kill then lead that kill. Over all good video

[@hopefulballistics]

I appreciate it!

[@michaelmoffit1423]

Partitions, ballistic tips, accubonds, and accubonds long range are not cup and core bullets. Look at a cross section and try and figure out how to make a cup into those shapes. They are impact extruded from solid copper stock vice the strip/sheet metal that cup and cores are made from. Huge difference in weight retention, length of bullet, and properties of the copper. Yes they are jacketed bullets, like cup and core but use a completely different manufacturing method.

[@hopefulballistics]

I clearly said Accubonds and Accubond lrs were bonded bullets.

[@jebbum1998]

Ramshot are some of the best around. You should watch some of the videos on H1000 vs magnum. They might surprise you. Over the last couple of years I have been on a mission to find powders that most won’t use because they’re not the top brands. Which I appreciate leaves more for me. I have loaded from 28 nosler - 22 creedmoor. Most of the powders don’t have the load data. Always work up. Thanks.

[@hopefulballistics]

@@jebbum1998 I appreciate the comment

[@Snailz5]

Hammer bullets still penetrate very effectively and typically exit. The petal shedding disruption also doesn’t cause much meat damage. However, they’re bc numbers are just total fiction and it’s frustrating that they don’t just give accurate numbers like cutting edge, Barnes, and Hornady. I still think you should check out badlands precision. Very high bc bullets that perform similarly on game to a ttsx or cx, except they hold onto their speed for much longer.

[@hopefulballistics]

I appreciate the comment!

[@mikechance3138]

If your longest shot is 400-500 yards then just go with a Partition or Hornady BTHP Interlock. All the hype on high BC makes little to no difference under 500 yards. Those leaded bonded bullet just perform better terminally.

[@warrenpolidori5541]

Great content and discussion. Cup and core still has its place. They've improved greatly in the past several years. The price of the bonded bullets is alarming, but no question you get what you pay for. Copper is here to stay. Future lead-free regulations will keep it going. As for my favorite? The one that shoots best, with a slight nod to the Accubond, Scirocco, and TTSX.

[@hopefulballistics]

Three great bullets! Thanks!

[@afader6898]

Favorites, cup and core, speer deep shock, speer hot core, nosler solid base, bonded, swift a frame, nosler accubond, speer impact, mono, winchester fail safe, barnes ttsx, nosler e tip, great video, im glad you put in there about velocity based, not all bullets are created equal, bonded are a good example, softer bonded bullets expand more, penetrate less, the round nose woodleighs are a great example, turn almost into marbles, have recovered the 250 roundnose from deer from my 340, have heard the same with bigger calibers too, north forks penetrate the most, expand the least, remington bronze points were the original berger exploding bullets, the 130 270, 150 30 cal always came apart, shed the core, wont say that for the 30 cal 180 though, theres not many bad bullets in this day and age, honorable mention to the barnes originals, speer grandslam, dual core, and norma vulcan, i enjoyed the video, keep them coming

[@hopefulballistics]

Right on! Great comment!

[@georgeclarke4235]

Nosler solid base was a great bullet. Only hunting bullet I used in my 25-06 and 270. Always had exits with amazing shock on the animal. All DRT.

[@michaelgarner4229]

The Winchester copper impact in 30 yd.Six is a sledgehammer on whitetail

[@hopefulballistics]

@@michaelgarner4229 right on

[@orr89rocz]

Bergers have been my choice in my longer range rigs. Absolute lightning strikes on deer. The damage is scary, advise stay away from heavy bone and shoulder hits, which i generally dont do. Insides most always turn to jelly

[@hopefulballistics]

Thanks for the comment

[@Mmikejs72]

Sierra bullets in general are my go to bullets, as they seem to perform the best for me.

[@hopefulballistics]

I appreciate it

[@jacobmullins3644]

Honorable mention is the norma evostrike which is made from tin instead of copper

[@hopefulballistics]

I’ll have to look into that

[@jasonacosta3860]

My favorite hunting bullet is Sierra gameking. I rarely have a shot over 150 yards so not concerned with high BC

[@hopefulballistics]

That makes sense, thanks

[@njm1251]

Favorite bullet, partition, out of .257 wby mag, 2nd is a tie between accubond and barnes ttsx or lrx Those 3 or 4 are my got to Great video, cheers from Canada 🇨🇦

[@hopefulballistics]

Some good bullets you have there. Thanks!

[@chriskendziora5424]

Speer grand slams or impact bullets

[@nicholasbarcomb2324]

Never had any major accuracy success with any Nosler big game bullets. Nosler's varmint bullets are another story. Most accuracy success overall has been with Hammer and Hornady bullets. Good luck and stay safe!!! 😉😉😉

[@hopefulballistics]

Right on! Thanks!

[@Accuracy1st]

Man in roughly 44 rifles I've never once had an issue getting a nosler bullet to shoot very well. I tried Hornady 140 BTSP in 270 when I was in my 20s and it shot poorly so I never bought another Hornady rifle bullet until 2023. That is factory ammo and bullets to load, the ELDM and ELDX. These actually shoot very well. Also got a ton of Outfitter CX 160s in 7PRC that shoot very well in one of my rifles. 2023 was my first year to take game with a Hornady bullet.

[@hopefulballistics]

@@Accuracy1st I read his comment wrong. I thought he said “never have any major accuracy issues.” I think Partitions and Accubonds outstanding. But I appreciate everyone sharing their experiences.

[@Accuracy1st]

@@hopefulballistics For me, one thing has been an absolute given. That is the luck I've had with any Nosler Ballistic tip and accubond getting excellent accuracy, groups, great ES/SD numbers, and lethality. Can't remember who's video I commented on but I spoke with a very seasoned elk guide, 3rd or 4th gen. I was asking about anything NOT to bring on a cow elk hunt. I was nearly floored when he said a bunch of people who come to hunt don't have their own rifle or something happened to theirs, and they use the old camp gun - a very old Remington 700 BDL chambered in 270 winchester using handloaded 130 grain Nosler ballistic tips over 54.0 grains Reloder 22. He stated that it has taken at least 1000 elk in the past few decades and they never lost one. Shots taken were out to 500 yards. How's that for solid testimony on the efficacy of a good ol 270 Win, let alone the bullet of choice?!!

[@Win70ew]

Not sure why, but you neglected to mention Speer Hot Core and Grand Slam cup and core bullets. I think they are the most underrated bullets out there. Far superior to Hornady bullets and much cheaper than Nosler bullets.

[@scottscheuerman8714]

I like the hot core Speer bullets in the 30-06 I got groups at 100 yards with them that could be covered with a dime

[@hopefulballistics]

I did mention the Hot Core. You’re right, they’re good bullets.

[@diggernash1]

I prefer the Gold Dots over either of these, but they are scarce, and both of these are solid hunting bullets.

[@afader6898]

The fusion and the gold dot are the same bullet, gold dot has a coating on the bullet, like the speer deep curl did, fusions pop up every now and then

[@ronlowney4700]

😃 Both North Fork (Originally From Wyoming - Sheridan, If I'm Not Mistaken) and The Bitterroot Bonded Bullets (Originally From Lewiston, Idaho - Though He Was Also Originally a Montana Boy) Started in the Mid 1960's and Were The Inspiration for Swift A-Frame's Bullets! A Company in Sweden Bought Them Out and I Can't Wait to Get My Hands on Some Of Them Again - An Excellent and Proven Elk Bullet! 🤑

[@hopefulballistics]

Awesome! Thanks

[@afader6898]

North fork was originally from Glen rock, in-between casper and Douglas, they are in Sweden now

[@ronlowney4700]

🕵️‍♂️ Yes, That is What Wikipedia Says and They Started in the Mid 1990's! However, Their Was An Older Company Out of Wyoming (I Thought With the Same Name) That Was Doing Bonded Bullets in the Mid 1960's! I Am Dating Myself Now and My Memory is Slipping Regarding the Name! 🤭

[@ronlowney4700]

🕵️‍♂️ None The Less, I Believe It Was The Man From Idaho That Was The First To Develop the Bonded Bullet (Bill Stiegers, of Bitterroot Bonded Bullets)? 🤷‍♂️

[@ronlowney4700]

🕵️‍♂️ Did Bill Inspire Jack O'Connor or Did Jack O'Connor Inspire Him? Either Way, I Can Thank Them Both For My 270 Killing Big Bull Elk With Those Bonded Bullets! This Combination Hits Well Above It's Weight Class (Like Marvin Hagler)! 🥊😵

[@scottscheuerman8714]

I bought some of ABLR Accubonds in 150 grain to try in my 280 AI that I built I was thinking if I get good accuracy it might be a good big game bullet for what I want to hunt

[@hopefulballistics]

I bet it will be excellent

[@ronlowney4700]

🕵️‍♂️ Mason Leather Did Some Testing Of The North Fork and Federal Fusion Bullets Out of His 270 and 30-06 and I Would Recommend That You Watch Those Tests! 🤑

[@hopefulballistics]

Good or bad results?

[@ronlowney4700]

Excellent Results! 🥳

[@ronlowney4700]

🕵️‍♂️ The Federal Fusion Mushroomed Beautifully (Over 2.5x Expansion) and Penetrated Just Over 20"! But, The North Fork Penetrated 28" Consistently, Though The Mushrooms Weren't As Big (2x Expansion)!

[@ronlowney4700]

🕵️‍♂️ Correction: 26"+ of Penetration and 2.2x Expansion For the North Fork Bullets and 99%+ Weight Retention! 🥳

[@shovelhead2155]

​@@hopefulballisticsVery good for both. Textbook terminal performance

[@ronlowney4700]

😎 I Have Always Had Good Luck With Nosler Bullets! However, The Partitions - in Particular - Are Becoming Way Overpriced and The Bonded Bullets Are Just Better Choices! I Am Having Excellent Luck With the Nosler ABLR's Shooting Out of My Rifles, But Not Everyone is Reportedly Having That Same Experience? I Couldn't Be Happier With the Immediately Accuracy of These Bullets and They Penetrate Much Better Than I Expected! 😯

[@hopefulballistics]

Accubonds are excellent

[@ronlowney4700]

Yes They Are! 👍

[@andrewwarren3891]

Anyone tried the new tipped Federal Fusion?

[@Error-4-0-4-]

Perty much use Hammer bullets for all my hunting now they seem to shoot damn near same hole, accurate in every rifle i load them for, and they have killed every animal I have shot with them. I really like the Terminal Accent bullets also but seem impossible to find.

[@hopefulballistics]

Awesome, thanks!

[@ronlowney4700]

🕵️‍♂️ And, If You Aren't a Reloader, Their is Real Value in Picking a Cartridge With Lots of Ammunition Options! 😯 But, Even If You Are a Reloader, It Was Still Important When I Couldn't Find Primers to Buy! 🤑

[@JamesM-l5g]

I recently heard an experienced elk hunter say Partitions don’t exit. I was surprised!

[@hopefulballistics]

Usually they’re found near the opposite hide.

[@afader6898]

Depends on the angle and caliber, 180 30 Cals exit on broadside most of the time, quartering it's 50 50, never recovered a 200 or 220 grain 30 cal or any grain 338 from my 340

[@JamesM-l5g]

@@hopefulballistics Yes, but so are the eldX jacket and core (but separate) many times as well. I myself have seen this. I, myself, don’t really consider it a bad thing. I like eldX bullets, to a point. Thanks for responding HB

[@JamesM-l5g]

@@afader6898 Cool!

[@ronlowney4700]

💪 Elk Are The Standard For Measurement Of Testing Bullets For Toughness! I Have Found That The Swift A-Frame's Not Only Pass That Test, But Also Have Given Me Some of My Best Accuracy Groups (Especially in My Magnums, With Their Flat Based Design and Stabalize Quicker, Because The Bullet is Shorter)! However, Curiously, The Nosler Partitions Have The Same Basic Design - But, Have Not Given Me The Same Consistency in Accuracy and I'm Not Sure As To Why? 🤔 Any Thoughts on This? 🤯

[@hopefulballistics]

Swifts will have better weight retention I presume.

[@ronlowney4700]

90%+ Every Time!

[@ronlowney4700]

🕵️‍♂️ And, a Text Book Mushroom Too! But, You Will Have to Dig It Out of The Dirt/Snow, Because It Is Going All The Way Through The Elk (I Try To Take Out the Heart/Lung Area To Save Meat)! But, If You Hit The High Shoulder Shot, The Elk Is Also Going Down - Without Two Front Legs To Run With! ☠

[@jrhunt414]

I know you have been loading the 308 with the 130 TTSX. My 5’ tall wife just got drawn for a moose tag. Her rifle is a 308 xbolt micro Midas. I saw yours were crimped in the second groove putting oal at 308 max of 2.810”. I did the same thing and loaded 49 gr of TAC. Barnes data has oal shorter for the TTSX and the box Vortx ammo with it crimped in the first groove. I’m hoping for around 3200 fps. From your experience with loading this setup, would you pick the 130 for Moose. I assume the recoil is similar to a box of 150 lead. I have some 168 ttsx but they are very long bullets and it looks like from the data you lose a lot of velocity with the 168. What’s your thoughts? My favorite hunting bullet is a 220 round nose 30-06. Definitely not loading that in 308.

[@hopefulballistics]

I feel like the expansion is perfect on the 130’s in 308, but it might not penetrate enough for a moose. I would probably go up to atleast 150, maybe 160-170 grain. You’ll lose a little velocity but gain penetration. You can probably still get good velocity with CFE223 is those range of bullets.

[@jrhunt414]

@@hopefulballistics Thanks for the info. I think I’ll try all 3 and get some 150s too. I think 130 would be fine for the avg 600-800lb bull but a 1000-1200 lb I think would not make it through based on a lot of the tests I see. 150 may be the better option and if I seat them at max OAL that gives me a little more space in the case. Every time I look at the 168 ttsx and compare it to all my other bullets I always think dang that’s a long bullet. I just don’t think I can push it fast enough in a 20” youth 308 without really getting some recoil and compression. I have TAC and Varget powder. Great channel, love your videos.

[@afader6898]

​@@jrhunt414 130 tsx and ttsx exit elk from my 30-06, your 308 should be good to go

[@jrhunt414]

@@afader6898 I have heard a lot about how well the 130 works for elk. Thanks for sharing your experience with an exit wound. A small to medium size moose is about the same size as a big elk, I’m not really worried about those. What I’m worried about is the 1000lb plus moose that I frequently see. Calling moose gets them real close and usually facing straight on or quarter towards you. Tracking a moose without an exit wound is much tougher. It could be dead 20 yards away and you may not see it in the thick woods without solid blood. Honestly a hot 308 in a 8lb rifle is more than my wife would really like to shoot but she is really good with her 9lb 30-30. I just don’t have any confidence in her getting the job done with her Marlin 30-30 she likes for deer. Her LOP is only 12” so she only has youth guns or custom cut down stocks. 308 is her “magnum” rifle. Going to be a lot of practice with regular 308 loads until we work up to the hot ones that perform like an 06. I was drawn to the 130 simply for less recoil and great penetration but it seems like to get the performance you have similar recoil to a heavier 150 gr lead bullet whenever I check the recoil numbers. I’ll see what the xbolt likes and that may make my decision easier. Also going to add a cartridge holder to the gun just to add a little weight and keep ammo handy. In Maine a tag allows 2 shooters and I’ll be backing her up with another rifle but I don’t really want to rely on that for an exit wound. You don’t always get the opportunity for a second shot and the ones you don’t get a second shot in are always the ones you have to track. If you get a repeat shot it’s usually only because they are standing in the road or in a cut which makes easier recovery. I’m probably overthinking everything and she will probably do just fine but success seems to be her biggest confidence booster.

[@Accuracy1st]

130 TTSX over 50.0 TAC was my first handload in a new Tikka T3x 308. Killed 5 deer with it, 3200+fps. I converted that Tikka, installing a Brux barrel and AG Composite stock. Still shot that loaded ammo very well. Killed 3 deer the next season with that combo. Built 2 more 308s with identical Benchmark cut-rifled barrels, Defiance Actions, McMillan stocks. Shot that same ammo in both and still getting under MOA, all shoot over 3200fps. I would not hesitate to shoot that combo at moose or elk. Recoil is minimal and that 130 slug is going to penetrate well. The rule I see time and time again with elk and moose is shoot, and keep shooting. Good luck. I personally would not put any time, energy, money into loading anything else, especially a heavier Barnes in 308. People with a lot more experience than me say the TSX, for example, is essentially a FMJ beyond 300 yards. I personally have never seen that but my longest shot with a TSX on game is around 260 and with a TTSX around 540.

[@JamesM-l5g]

I been saying the say about the Partition. But I couldn’t imagine what an updated Partition would even cost. Way way too expensive. I stopped buying Partitions. I’d go with a 225 grain eldM in an 06 over a Partition now. Nosler can suck it…..

[@hopefulballistics]

Thanks

[@gsnicholas8522]

Cutting Edge and Badlands Precision are both better options than hammers.

[@hopefulballistics]

Thanks!

[@JamesM-l5g]

I didn’t know the A Frame was bonded

[@hopefulballistics]

Yep

[@WayneGent-t2l]

What do you think of nosler ballistic tip I believe it's bonded?

[@JamesClark-lw6sw]

The Ballistic tip is NOT bonded. The Nosler Accubond and Accubond Long Range are bonded. Having said that, the medium to heavy weight BTs in each caliber have very thick tapered jackets at the base. They hold toether pretty well.

[@WayneGent-t2l]

@@JamesClark-lw6sw so thay are cup and core the nosler BTs ?

[@WayneGent-t2l]

@@JamesClark-lw6sw so the nosler BTs are cup and core?

[@chriskendziora5424]

The Ballistic tips explode in my experience

[@afader6898]

Ballistic tips are cup and core, have a heavy jacket and base, they hold together well

[@eskimoreloader]

Personally i have like 3 if not 2 LOL

[@texteb]

Cup and core will not drop a deer!!!! They run off!!

[@hopefulballistics]

@@texteb I hope your kidding

[@texteb]

@@hopefulballistics NO! I shoot bonded or Barnes. My deer drop! Others I hunt with shoot core-lock and they never drop. I shoot a 7mm-08 vs their 270win

[@texteb]

In Texas