Hornby's All New Streamlined Class P2 | Unboxing & Review

[@britanniaolivercromwell5006]

This model still shows why hornby is still in the game, they still know how to produce an amazing model. yes the price is stupidly expensive but my blinded love for the p2 has overpowered my hand

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah they do - when they put their mind to it they can really knock it out of the park! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@davidbarr9343]

Well done Sam for giving the retailer a shout out. Good customer service deserves recognition these days.👏😀

[@andrewtongue7084]

Call me old fashioned, David, but such customer service should be the gold standard; not that Deerail should not be commended, but it's typical with anything you purchase, now - there's little or no loyalty to the customer, & sadly, when we do witness such, it's perceived as some sort of revelation - & that's precisely why Hornby are up to the hilt in debt, no profit margin, & have more unsold stock, sitting in warehouses. Their business model is in serious need of an overhaul.

[@guyosborne2696]

Worth mentioning that if you had pre-ordered with Hornby direct they also honored the original price and I was charged £209.99 including delivery.

[@robmckenzie2538]

@@andrewtongue7084 Good points, Andrew. Hornby's 3-tier retailer system hurt customers and retailers badly, but now seems to have been abandoned, thankfully.

[@andrewtongue7084]

& so they should, Guy - no excuse for elevating prices, thereafter. I have no truck with the ethos of, "getting what you pay for", but I find in the modern Hornby business model, cynical greed & cost-cutting are not an attractive selling point, or indeed a sensible manoeuvre....we shall see what transpires.

[@davidbarr9343]

@@andrewtongue7084 You are not old fashioned, back in the day when I was erm a lot younger than I am now, great customer service was the norm.Sadly times have changed and that is why I posted my comment.😀

[@brianartillery]

I think the firebox lighting effect shows up best when the crew figures are installed - their blue overalls are far lighter than the cab interior, and would, along with the flesh colour of their hands and faces, reflect the red and yellow light quite well.

[@tenfootvoyager]

Yes if its like my Flying Scotsman the firebox reflects realistically on the crew/cab and tender.

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah that's a great point - I bet it'd reflect off of those very nicely! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@piers995]

Hats off to Derails. They sent biscuits with my Rapido Lion too. Great Service 😊

[@SamsTrains]

haha excellent - always a great experience with them!! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@a.r.productions]

An obsurud price for sure but I think we can wholeheartedly accept that this model demonstrates getting what one pays for. Other then the weight and plastic construction as you say, what a model! Another great review Sam

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah very absurd... but worth it or not, it's a high quality model! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@ScaniaVabis580]

That being said though, some American outline models are about a grand now but then again, they're typically made out of brass or diecast (or both)

[@AnthonyHook-po3ex]

​@@SamsTrains😢

[@ianmckernan1944]

WOW, what a beautiful model. Thanks for the review Sam.I'm glad I discovered you. Gave up on trains when we moved into a small bungalow. Then watched Hornby, a model world and something hit the heart. TT. apols for going off track slightly but I have always been a model railwayer for many years when I received the Princess Elizabeth set in the Late 50's early 60's? Anyway, thanks again, I love watching your videos.

[@attuslebeard5133]

This is the P2 we should have had instead of the earlier incarnation - I might have been able to afford it back then too! Good to see that Hornby have dusted off the 'good tin' of LNER green on this one - much better than the washed out effort they did on Chamossaire.

[@robmckenzie2538]

Good point about the earlier incarnation.

[@PeterSchmieder]

I got mine today (Prince of Wales). Took a bit longer since I don't live in the UK. It really is an amazing model.

[@mikenobi]

I'm still into trains even after 9 years, I've never own any of hornby models , but i just like watching them, seeing it go around your layout with all those engines in the background made me even more appreciate hornby models , its super realistic. My favorite train is be the B12 you reviewed, something so simple but charming, hope you won't stop posting train models.

[@SamsTrains]

That's lovely to hear Mike - they are quite mesmerising aren't they? And the Hornby B12 sure is a work of art too! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@TidmouthSheds]

It’s a good day when Sam uploads, and boy was it good… Worth the wait!

[@SamsTrains]

haha thank you so much! :D

[@ollie_kew]

Lots of the P2s, including this one, seem to have shipped with the guard irons missing from the detail pack. Will be interesting to see how well Hornby customer services react to getting the missing parts out to buyers.

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh interesting, I didn't notice that to be fair - yes hopefully they will be supplied if they were promised! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@maringarvanovic8011]

I have always been a critic of Hornby over the last few years after buying their products since 1977. However I think you have underrated this one. Thinking of this as a kit loco it is a good price and the execution is amazing.

[@wakefieldtrainlad340]

This locomotive is my new favourite Hornby Model. Words cannot explain how much I approve of everything during this review. Keep up the good work Sam.

[@robbyboy03]

I always appreciate your reviews as I do think it holds the likes of Hornby and such accountable. Great work Sam.

[@jeannedarcalterberserker8620]

Wow, just wow. Compared to my old Railways P2, this is quite amazing. I was considering Prince of Whales, but at the moment, I'm all good I'm looking at other models. This one I will consider though once funds allow me to buy it. My old P2 is a lovely engine, except that the mechanism is quite insulting. 8 driving wheels and no bearings and a seriously crappy 3-pole motor. It runs quite badly now after all these years and with very low torque. However, I must say, this loco looks amazing. The finish is beautiful and no parting line. The cab detail is very similar to my Dublo Scotsman and the tender connector as well. Basically like Dapol now. Very easy to just uncouple the tender and don't have to faff around with the fiddly plug. The performance is also quite mind-blowing and the slow-downs are somewhat forgivable to me due to the massive wheelbase. Yes, it's very expensive, but I think you get a good model here. Great job from Hornby, definitely better than their Thompson Pacifics 👍👍

[@karenfan010]

I made a playlist of some of your engine reviews it’s specifically ones that inspired engines from the railway series and thomas the tank engine there’s 35 of them so far.

[@r.a.monigold9789]

Having a highly detailed, technically accurate review of a "loco" that I can't afford is the next best thing to ownership. Thanks for all you do, Sam and especially - thanks for sharing. BTW, with this review I'll be able to afford proper meals for a while longer...

[@SamsTrains]

That's my pleasure, really glad you liked it! haha glad to hear it :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@paulsngaugechannel]

Good looking locomotive, but I prefer to have food for the family. Don’t want to annoy them. Even if I was single, £255 is too expensive. It’s a blessing I don’t have the resources to build a layout, also I have come to terms that model railway is now not affordable. I was lucky to have a decade of having models that were affordable. But now I am a video watcher and a fan of others who are able to make and enjoy their passion. Thanks for sharing your experience with us. I do enjoy your videos. 🎉🎉

[@CAshleyMoss]

Hi Sam. Your reviews are absolutely essential viewing for anyone trying to live within his or her means! Your judgements are shrewd and detailed reviews, rather than seductive adverts. Value for money is, of course, more subjective but even here your comparative data is really helpful. In the end, performance is critical. Who wants a super-detailed model that doesn’t run well?

[@lukeslocomotives]

Such a brilliant model! Hopefully Hornby make more like this!

[@EsotericArctos]

This model has almost restored my faith in Hornby. Such a lovely model and so many great new features. Amazing detail and so many great features. Really liking this one

[@speleokeir]

Hi Sam, an excellent and useful review. The model looks fabulous, I agree it might have been nice to have a diecast running plate/boiler considering the price, but the weight should still be plenty for traction, especially considering the good quality motor and small driving wheels. I've got the Hornby Club sister loco 'Thane of Fife' on order, which is at a considerably lower RRP of £199.99. Once you factor in the 10% discount from club membership you actually pay £180. Still not exactly cheap, but far less than 'Lord President'. When you also consider the reward points that's another £18 you can take off your next order and effectively equates to £162. N.B. The diecast Dublo A4s, also have the same loco-tender connection, flickering firebox and 21pin DCC.

[@ryanf6427]

Awaiting my Thane of Fife as well. Interested to see if the running plate for that one is diecast, as specifically mentioned on the website page for ToF (but not for Lord Pres) and in the promotional emails...

[@robmckenzie2538]

Another fine review, thanks Sam. You mentioned the earlier Hornby Railroad version of the P2, but there was a Hornby Main Range P2 which was released in 2014. I purchased one of these expecting something marvellous but found it so disappointing that I purchased no more Hornby products for four years. Good to know this new P2 is a fine model, but that doesn't exactly compensate those of us who bought the earlier one. Thanks for commending the retailer's service. I've mainly used Hattons for many years and find them excellent in every respect as well!

[@landonspain193]

My absolute favorite European steam locomotive! So glad Hornby produced it! Thanks for reviewing it!

[@tico360]

I’m pretty sure the second “gear” on the locomotive is for the synchronized smoke unit that Hornby has been developing. Great review Sam!

[@speleokeir]

I thought the same, which suggests they'll be a P2 with smoke unit in the future. Probably either 'The Wolf of Baddenoch' or 'Mons Meg' as they are the two remaining P2s (streamlined or basic) not yet modelled.

[@tobythehairlessdog8876]

@@speleokeir The smoke-fitted P2 has been on the website for pre-order for ages

[@mikehaufe6635]

Hi Sam, I have this one on its way at Hornby Club discount price of £209.99. I also have the club exclusive edition, Thane of Fife which is the same build at £199.99. Superb model albeit expensive. Goes very well with HM7000 chip and sound. The tender metal weight is shaped to fit the decoder and the speaker neatly, one above the other. I also have Earl Marischal (Scots spelling for Scottish aristocrat doing the same job as the Earl of Norfolk in England) also a club discount of £209.99. I thought when I was unwrapping that you would approve of the new packaging! As to packaging, also very good indeed direct from Hornby but, alas no biscuits. The fan on the axle could be for timing the new steam system fitted to the model of the new P2 Prince of Wales (currently under construction by the builders of Tornado). Keep up the good work!

[@craigthelej]

Been a while since I’ve watched one of these videos. Do miss my trains but no time for them anymore

[@TheGameCamer360]

It’s not a pony truck, the LNER used Cartazzi axels! Hornby have actually modelled it very well. It’s an axel that slides side to side in its axle boxes

[@imatrainperson1195]

I think the new packaging is nice. The original that slid out was fine too but the new one feels not only more secure but reminds me of packaging that many American model train companies use (Athearn, Scaletrains, Kato, to name a few)

[@Dagreatestwaffle]

I like the firebox effect, even if it’s closed it still looks good

[@andrewhotston983]

Possibly the most impressive British steam loco ever, and the model does it full justice. I got mine from Derails, too - excellent shop.

[@platformten5958]

Hi Sam. A gorgeous looking loco that proves Hornby have still got the oomph if they can be bothered. However, the RRP is too high for the average modeller so 'hats off' to D Rails for their consideration towards the not so well off amongst us. A question for all the viewers reading the comments is this: In what year can we expect Hornby to advertise a RRP of £1,000.00p? 1st prize goes to the person with the correct answer once we arrive at that year. 😁 Paul. 👍❤

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah absolutely right Paul - their new products have been fantastic, as you say when they can be bothered. haha that's a good question - my answer is Hornby will be gone before they get that far... but maybe I'm cynical ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@davidmolin8944]

Good on derail for keeping their word on the original order price, good to see that the manufacturer can’t force us into their prices

[@philipemery7328]

Thanks for the review Sam. Excellent as always! I'd really love to have one of these but I'm not going to pay £200+ for a plastic running plate even if it's not warped. In recent months I've been fortunate enough to secure a Thompson A2/3 for £123 and a Gresley A1 for £126 - both brand new and both about half Hornby's asking price. I love them both, even if the Thompson has a warped running plate and an awful boiler seam. They're really good runners and they seem like excellent value - for what I paid. This P2 strikes me as being worth more than those but even so I think I'll wait and see if there are any significant discounts in 6-12 months. Depends on how many people think the same way as me I suppose.

[@stephenedwards5254]

Last weekend I received Thane of Fife P2 from Hornby. You can only get it if you are a member of the collectors club. Only yesterday I received Lord President and Earl of Marischal. So a very expensive investment

[@damianinCanadaTT-OO]

Looks lovely. Great review Sam. I can hear the relief in your voice. A good Hornby loco! If I ever go back to a full size layout I might be tempted

[@scotmcmanus9401]

I bought the Hornby Collector Thane of Fife version and it is a stunning model and a great runner. It cost £179.99 so much better value than the one you bought. Definitely one of the best models I have.

[@timbervalleyproductions]

Great video and lovely loco. Spoke to Accura this morning, Manors are now being dispatched to customers!

[@SamsTrains]

That's fantastic news - can't wait to see mine! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@scotts_stuff]

Hi Sam, I have got this on order and it is due this morning. I also ordered the Hornby Collectors Club exclusive The Thane of Fife. I got that for £180 which I feel is the right price. That said, I was impressed by the box and the quality of the model. I think Hornby have learnt from the W1'fiasco.

[@RichardKuivila1947]

Crawls GREAT in opening video !

[@Chris9017]

This has got to be Hornby's best work since the J36 0-6-0. Glad to see that they still make good models that deliver. :)

[@jasonc9194]

Fantastice revfiew as always, great to see that they honoured the price quoted when you placed your order. Hattons could learn from this :)

[@ModelRailwaysUnlimited]

WOW, finally we see what a R2R model should be like. Very impressed, the weight does not bother me either. Mechanism looks very good indeed. Being retired now sadly its now way outside my spending power, maybe I can get a 2nd hand one in a few years. Great review mate. Finally eh a all good loco from Hornby !

[@owenlea6505]

While the price is not competitive or too reasonable, this loco sure seems to be one of Hornby's better products! It does prove that Hornby still try to provide now and then. And this streamlined P2 is definitely looking like a worthy purchase, regardless of the price! As for you, Sam - well, we know you always provide excellence with these reviews. I never knew these P2s were even streamlined at any point in life. But personally, I think the streamlining makes it look even better. Great job and review yet again, Sam! Owen.

[@sethbricked]

Honestly, I quite like this model. I've ordered one for me and my grandpa to run on our 'soon to be finished' 00 layout. The streamlining definitely gives it the beauty of the A4, which is good, because I've got a Dublo A4 Sir Nigel Gresley in my cart at the moment. Great review as always, I am looking forward to your review on the Dublo A4

[@uklostwavebloke]

I believe complimentary biscuits should be standard practice in any model.

[@MrNas42]

Biscuits in the packaging make for excellent shock detectors. If they are broken, then the package has been dropped or bashed during transit.

[@mmacey84]

Come to the Australian HO scale scene. Locos are this price on average. And would be lucky to be this quality

[@tonyslight826]

What a wonderful model Sam shame about the price. May I say though that the original Hornby P2 which I have { not the railroad version } the fully lined model is a gorges model and is worlds apart from the railroad version as far as paint detail i.e. fully lined. I will be getting me the new p2 like the one you have displayed to eloquently, great video Sam thank you.

[@garethwhite4123]

I like to point out, I have recieved the P2 Thane of Fife. Which is a hornby collectors club model and is priced at £199. But remember as a collectors club member you get discount on models from Hornby so in total I paid £179.99. That saving alone is worth the membership of £30, or £27 as once again members also get discount when renewing membership.

[@paulisnotonfire]

Surprised that the running plate isn't metal. The engine shed blog from July last year shows a die cast one. So that's interesting. Looking forward to getting mine soon and having a look at these in person. Cheers

[@JPoulAndersson]

A truly wonderful loco, one of Hornby's best. Well done Margate! Cheers, Joachim

[@207rb]

Very impressive and great to see hornby produce something of such high quality.

[@sinistregoth]

Ive just seen Hornbys ad for this and it says it has a die cast chassis and running plate!.... i know who I'd tend to believe!

[@colinwhewell7049]

Hi Sam, about the slowing down on the tight curves. It is not the weight of the train that is causing the slow down but the binding of the flanges on the driving wheels. If you look towards the end of your video you will see the loco slow down and the following coach shunting into the rear of the loco.

[@davidford85]

The Bugatti P2s are one of my favourite locomotives, so when Hornby announced their plans to produce a RTR model of one, I was to say least very interested. Thankfully Hornby does seem to have delivered this time. The only real issue I have with the models of 2003 & 2005, is the price, but then to be fair, the P2s were always going to be a relatively expensive model: only six prototypes, which varied in detail; only the one livery, LNER Green; and a presumably a smaller market demand relative to more well known prototypes like the A3s or A4s. I don't know whether I want Hornby to produce the remaining four Bugatti P2s, on the one hand I'd really like all six, all the other hand my wallet is already hurting from the two I've just got. Also, slightly annoyingly, I've still got three unbuilt Keyser's whitemetal kits, procured from eBay at great expense, sitting in the to-do pile.....

[@deanosah]

Hi Sam, Great review of 2003 and I hope to get my 3 P2's 2002,2003 and 2007 from Hornby on Monday. I have already recieved 2005 Thane of Fife and have enjoyed running it in and test running how many coaches it will pull compared to the 2001 Cock of the North. both loco's are able to manage 15 coaches, However, Thane of Fife was have wheel slip with 15 coaches, but still made a full circuit of my railway. Keep up the good work.

[@charliepage1927]

Another superb review Sam. Although hearing the price tag of this model and knowing it costs a similar amount to a Accurascale Manor I’ve pre-ordered (With Sound) it will be interesting to see how the detail and quality of the model compares. Hornby have certainly improved things, although at the moment I think other manufacturers are taking the top spot in terms of value for money, level of detail, quality finishes and having a balance between them. I look forward to getting the Accurascale Manor and more importantly your review😊

[@DJE2025]

👍👍Wonderful review Sam! The P2 is a stunning model. Out of curiosity I ran the RRP in USD $323.39 so yes she's a spendy locomotive. I do enjoy your reviews, thanks.🚂🚂

[@robertjohntgallagher]

Just unboxed mine ,great model but while on rolling road it seized, luckily at slow speed ,found two crank nuts lose ,no harm done but buyer's my what to check them first

[@JasonRyanStreets]

Yet again another brilliant video Thanks for bringing us such quality content

[@peterhunt2723]

Had my first Hornby 00 in 1947 think the detailing is a bit different now!

[@iceeblueburst03]

Love the look and detail of the P2 in streamlined form just like the A4 design but with the 2-8-2 wheel configuration! And I see my DOB which is 2003! Overall, solid locomotive!

[@97SEMTEX]

Really glad you enjoyed this model and from what I can see it does look a good one! However, I've noticed you still seem to believe the new Hornby 9F's are not very good in relation to their motor. I think you are wrong on this and heres why: 1. I have a Hornby 9F and it runs like a dream, smooth, excellent crawl and good power and no stalling. 2. I upgraded mine to DCC sound and its still ran well. 3. Correct me if im wrong here, but I believe your controller is a non feedback controller and I've noticed issues with certain motors on non-feedback controllers. (carpet layouts do not cause the issue you have so I am disregarding those comments as I deam them not relevant (although you could do with adding some pickups half way through the layout for good measure and you can use the beams for this wiring, just a suggestion)) Heres what I suggest, upgrade you 9F to DCC or get a feedback controller and try it again and update us. I'm all for calling Hornby out on there mistakes / greed; like their lack of speaker in the P2 and 9F. But I think the "motor problem" you are having is a controller problem not a problem with the motor they are using. I am not the only one to report that their 9F ran well and didn't encounter the problem(s) you had.

[@ScaniaVabis580]

I believe that this type of P2 body has a plastic running board throughout whilst the other variant has a largely diecast running board with a plastic front end (from cylinders forward at least)

[@andy3074]

Lovely model, hornby does have redeeming qualities, frank hornby would be proud

[@JohnnieE1961]

Interesting that the instructions show the non-streamlined smoke box.

[@michaeltaylor1869]

Nice video sam very good camera work as usual as always keep it up bye for now Philip

[@lindaoffenbach]

Wow! Fantastic model. H have been busy setting up another production in Vietnam. Perhaps this is the result? And finally up to scratch packaging as well. The official rrp is tickling the equivalent of 300 Euro which is close to German priced territory. Are H finally getting their game together? From a rather 'expensive' Märklinists point of view, we'd be happy with such a stunner on the lay out! Perhaps a smoke generator could have been expected as well, but perhaps H are preparing full synchronisation of both sound and smoke? That would be awesome 💓

[@SamsTrains]

I wonder where this was made?? Might have to check the box. Yeah it's pretty pricey, but the product itself is awesome! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@LiveSteamNick]

There is a sound,smoke gen P2 coming in Q4 2023 Prince of Wales

[@phil36310]

Getting out of china is the best ANY manufacturer can do. There simply is NO QUALITY CONTROL and we all experienced faulty and poor products from red china. The finesse of Vietnam production lines is remarkable and most of all the 'mentality' is way more positive and friendly. But tell me how to get a Märklin steam locomotive of this size for this prize tag ?? Or even a Roco or Piko not to mention Brawa & co !

[@lindaoffenbach]

@@phil36310 Oh, Quality management in China is plenty. It's just a matter having the right network over there and setting up all properly. I know, I've been there plenty times. Problem is, both American and British companies are just too stingy as a general rule of thumb. Certainly not all of them, but I know Hornby was, and the way they've been setting up shop there is just asking for trouble. Good example in our hobby is PIKO. They own their own factory in China, invested heavily in high tech methods, machines, automation and tools, pay operatives very well and with German management on site. And that's the way to do it. Successful Japanese companies operate similarly, and the same goes for masses of products. It's all possible, but it does require competence of management and not hesitating to invest ;) Btw, China itself and the Chinese are the most amiable people on earth; always having fun, laughter and most caring. Let all those politically driven and popular anti-China narrations not blind your mind..., they are bluntly very unrealistic ;)

[@phil36310]

@@lindaoffenbach you'll never know what they really think. Been there and prefer Indonesian and Vietnam people. And regarding motivation to produce quality they have more experience too. Just my penny. Cheers

[@joshslater2426]

Just found out that Flying Scotsman is going to be at Doncaster in November. I’ve been planning to see it and I think I’ve found somewhere near to home I can go. At the same time Sam’s released a new video. What a streak of good news!

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh fantastic - I hope you enjoy seeing Scotsman! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@nigelcole1936]

I have the Hornby Cock O' The North (original version) and have ordered P2 Class, 2007 'Prince of Wales' With Steam Generator (with original P2 front) which I am looking forward to receiving. I have that new connector on my recent Hornby Dublo Flying Scotsman and think its very good. I sponsor the build of the new P2 Prince of Wales that is under construction. Great video as always thanks Sam

[@andrewdking]

I mirror you then on all counts & have this Lord President on order too. I told the A1 Trust off the other week about the P2 Hornby PofW model, because they originally said they would be selling it, so waited patiently for a few years for them to announce it, now its available & almost sold out on pre-order. They then said they were no longer going to sell it but hadn't told anyone. Some P2 sponsors are going to miss the boat on the Prince of Wales I now expect. Luckily, Chester Models accepted my order for the PofW with smoke & sound etc.

[@Phil-oj5nr]

To buy this model in New Zealand would cost in the region of $NZ800.00. Exchange rates with GBP are part of the reason, but a lot of retailers seem to follow a RRP idea, so unless you are a regular buyer at certain outlets, that is the price! My local model shop will not do “deals”, so he has lost out on a purchase of one locomotive and three coaches. I waited for three months to see if the stock sold, and when it was still on the shelf, I asked for a deal. He declined, and now three months later the stock is still there. It is not like in UK where shops may well turn over stock and re-order, this particular shop gets the next batch of a selection of Hornby, and very rarely re-orders previously stocked items. Another factor is our small population relative to UK and Australia. This may well lead to retailers dropping model railways altogether and stocking just other toys only. True “ toy shops”.

[@vaportime05]

I own one of the hornby dublo flying scotsmans that they put out this year for her centenary, and it also has a lot of the same quality and detail that this engine has. It even came with the seprately fitted crew and new tender to engine couplings. I'm really happy with it but the price is definitely way too steep even if the engine is fully diecast. Great review, and I might get a p2 of my own now 😅

[@jamesdunloptrains]

Awesome video today Sam really beautiful model I knew you were going to review this one today cos everywhere I look people are reviewing the model

[@jadenbishop3388]

It seems like value for money is bringing down a lot of models in ranking this year

[@joeleboeuf]

To be honest, I've never seen a streamlined Gresly engine with 8 driving wheels, before. This is definitely a first for me.

[@drevo50]

Fantastic model! Always been happy with the earlier version, which runs superbly, but when they issue the smoke generator equipped model (which probably uses the axle sensor you noted) then I'll get one.

[@MrBnsftrain]

Including painted crew figures amazes me! Especially on a steam engine model where you always have someone in the cab when it's moving, unlike diesels and electrics which can work in multiple. I do find it odd they have a new motor and conical flywheel inside.

[@eastcoasttrainspotting5673]

Great review Sam! Very refreshing to see a positive one for Hornby. I must say though it grinds my gears because this model proves Hornby can make great models and to a high quality. This recent Drax wagons also prove they can make great value models so why don’t they just do this all the time I will never know 😂

[@tenterdentown2452]

I don't think many Sam's Trains viewers will be buying this loco. Looks a great loco - at great price!

[@billywindsock9597]

What a beautiful locomotive. Not in the market for it, but it looks really lovely.

[@SouthWalesTrainSpotter]

Why does the box casing protection remind me of the Accurascale box casing protection either way lovely model!

[@jackrumseycentralrailway6764]

This reminds me of Cliff Barker packaging when I ordered his gauge 1 track.

[@mkaustralia7136]

Not wanting to be a grinch, but I would suggest noting the following. They are not killers, but do detract. The front lubrication box is not fitted on straight; The outboard lamp irons appear not to be straight in some of the closeup shots. That may be parallax error; There is a very definite fingerprint near the “N” on the tender; The water gauge glasses are not striped painted as other locos are. That may be prototypical; The blurb on the box says the running plate is metal and it is not; The additional name plates are actually rather thick plastic and at scale measurements would be about 6” thick. The movement of the valve gear looks a little different from other Walschaerts engines, but I cannot quite see what that difference is. That is probably me. It is expensive, but beautiful. I bought it notwithstanding. No pub for months!😢

[@stuartaaron613]

Hi Sam, nice review. Thankfully I don't collect LNER equipment (I do BR with Southern locomotives) but this is a beautiful model. I find it ironic that just like the prototypes, the model P2 is far better than the rebuilt Thompson A2/2 version.

[@doge_sevens]

this is a gorgeous model, the streamlined p2 ive always seen as the "comically large a4" which is why it was my favorite british engine for a time. P.S. you should consider trying one of rapido's Canadian steam engines, they're coming out with a Canadian Pacific d10 10 wheeler this coming September and im going to be grabbing myself one, it'll be around the same price as this p2 though but its packed with lighting features and insane detail

[@jeffreysmith156]

This is tempting but we are not all able to afford such gems. I am reasonably happy with my almost 10 year old Cock of the North P2, which cost £40 (!) more than the Railroad version you have but does look much less stark. It is sobering that mine cost less than £120 new! Now we are talking about £255, albeit with a better motor, chassis, detailing, etc.

[@mbwoods2001]

I dont normally get steam locos as i do modern day layout, so the only steam i already have is the Tornado, and I have the P2 on order at my local shop, the 2007 Prince of Wales which is currently being built by the same guys who built the Tornado.

[@SevernCrescent]

A good well balanced video as always Sam about the P2 Lord President. Just put dcc chip in my Lord President and the firebox glow is NO brighter than it is in DC format.

[@ivovanzon164]

Continental style tender couplers finally arrived! For the cornering behaviour: I'm surprised that it still works on R2 without derailing, as it has larger wheels compared to a German class 39, and the bodywork doesn't give any opportunity to hide a more flexible chassis (like Brawa did on their streamlined 4-8-4).

[@gordonhanning476]

Finally a quality model from Hornby

[@Damien.D]

The cause of the slow downs is the front pony wheels that are touching the side streamlined cylinder skirts. Can be seen at 31:00 Otherwise it's a near perfect model.

[@70053morayfirth]

A stunning model. Much better than the original, which was a flop by Gresley standards. Does the weight matter if the performance is excellent?

[@OragamiTobichi-bi6lh]

That is what i want next it looks so cool. Its so beautiful. Keep being awesome my friend. Ur the best

[@SamsTrains]

Awesome! I can highly recommend it :D Thanks a lot for the kind words, Sam :)

[@YrinnaRhaizaRibeiroSantos-d5x]

A Stunning model of Lord President

[@ryanf6427]

Interesting you say the running plate is plastic on that particular model. Quite a surprise, indeed! I'm still awaiting my pre-order of the Hornby Club 'Thane of Fife' which I thought would be exactly the same as this model (except the name of course). The website and promotional email they sent me for the Thane of Fife both explicitly state it has a "diecast chassis and running plate". I wonder if that is exclusive to the Collector's Club version (although I doubt it as it's cheaper - just a membership bonus I'm sure - and according to the specs 20g lighter!)

[@jimflagg4009]

I am glad you show the packaging. Seems like the Postal Service play football with our packages before they arrive.

[@exarkun42]

Wow. All I have to say. That Crawl blew me away. The question now: Is this a better crawler than the Merchant Navy? Either the old one that you remotored or the Airsmoothed one, both are amazing. Mine just came in the mail, and I'll be reviewing it soon. First impressions are good though, before I even sat down to watch your review I set it to run in.

[@MachRacer4]

The Dublo Flyings Scotsman 100 models had that loco-tender connection.

[@tgeiii3554]

Actually Sam, the loco-tender coupling is already a thing in the Dublo range. The A4 & Flying Scotsman models have the Dapol style connection.

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh interesting - this is the first time I've seen it! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@TheHoveHeretic]

Yum .... pretty, very pretty. Can't recall any other 00 gauge loco which gives such an impression of sheer power in repose (..... not even the LMS Garratt). Great to hear of outstanding service from a retailer too. Just a random connection, someone went and built a really impressive 5in gauge 2006 Wolf of Badenoch. For any fans of the Bugatti P2 who are interested, there's a great clip of the beastie at work, from 'LMS4767' on KZbin.