The Officer Carbine has Been Nerfed AGAIN...

[@brittommyv807]

Hornet playing with Rachta and Delany feels like the patient older brother trying to wrangle two twin children who won't stop bickering 😆

[@t_tkuro]

Speaking facts...!

[@rowanmohammed4127]

that spear throw at 15:37 was absolutely disgusting

[@slaughterface3654]

I was gonna comment this myself bro is the predator

[@Labyrinth6000]

Most broken weapon in the game with no downsides, outclassing the throwing knives and axes in everything. Sure you lose it, but theres a high chance you can get another from ammo caches and other hunters. It NEEDS a nerf badly either by damage falloff from longer distances, be made as a weapon slot, or straight up removed and be found only as a weapon you can find in a map.

[@michaelsanders7484]

@@Labyrinth6000completely agree. It’s just basic game design philosophy. You don’t make a weapon that is better than its competitors in every single aspect. There must be ebbs and flows, pros and cons, and it being expensive is not a con, especially not with how so many people don’t even prestige and just have an infinite budget. There just throwing this game away, making the worst decisions with balancing, adding way to many ammo types that are so stupid to fight.

[@Mikesulli90]

What's that? The spear is absolutely busted to pieces? Quick! Nerf the officer carbine again!

[@elegant9973]

They didnt nerf the weapon, nerfed HV lol It takes 5% of your dmg away, and if you hit arms itll take 3 hits to kill with officer now not just 2. Which is fine bc HV had zero downsides to not bring it, now its more in line with all ghe other ammos and having a megative of some sort

[@mpsins]

Are you still playing now that they've murdered the spear?

[@sivasiva-jl5tc]

sleep well sweet prince will still play it daily, they cant take it away from me

[@willaroberts134]

crytek, look me in the eyes and tell me you weren't just mad everytime you died to an officer carbine with HV

[@DisTYM]

seems like Cyclone High velocity + Drilling Hatchet High Velocity is gonna be the new officer spam

[@寝子猫-j4y]

Medium Ammo My Beloved

[@connor_jay]

dolch will always be spam king but yeah we're gonna see more variety now

[@alatiel11]

IF you can handle the recoil effectively.

[@psyantologist]

you can't "spam" a rifle that only fire two shots before you need to reload it

[@寝子猫-j4y]

@@psyantologist Centennial shorty could be a better option then. But you get more ammo with the drilling i think.

[@KornbreadTV]

Why’d they reduce the damage AND ammo count both for High Velocity? That do that to counter bullet drop? Bullet drop isn’t that big of an issue. Like I can kind of understand the ammo count, but the damage reduction doesn’t make much sense. Maybe the Devs watched too many Hornet videos. Like yeah Hornet can hit his shots, but the rest of us suck and need the extra shots 😂

[@KungThulhu]

Crytek always does these nerfs with several steps that go from too strong to unusable. Flash bomb is another example. They applied several nerfs and now its basically useless. They should try one nerf at a time. HV is now slower, less damage and lower ammo count so i just don't bring it anymore. Too many downsides and it wasn't really broken in the first place.

[@127twilson]

​@KungThulhu It definitely was broken. There was almost no downside to bring it before. The only downside was ammo capacity (never really a problem since compact and medium get so much from boxes) and for semi-auto rifles it provides more recoil. Other than that it was a straight upgrade. They definitely did nerf too much and now it doesn't really ever make sense to use for just 100 extra m/s.

[@datamining2340]

a nerf was needed as the intended playstyle with high velocity was the same as spitzer: careful headshot hunting. However hv was just used as a better compact ammo that could spam down people at range as well. the nerf is too much though and I would prefer that it kept its original high velocity and just got fewer ammo and lower damage (to mirror spitzer).

[@127twilson]

The real nerf this gun needs is to revert the recoil changes. It takes 0 skill to pull down and left very lightly. It is even easier at higher fovs since recoil is reduced. Bring back the random recoil that actually was very needed for this type of weapon in hunt.

[@GuthixGriffin]

That's simply the Crytek approach. Double nerf or buff it into oblivion. Remember when they increased the damage of the Krag? They also added extra ammo

[@spoof6023]

"oh rachta hi~" 0:19 did i hear that right?

[@waffle43-ic]

I didn't really ever play it with high velocity, now I'm glad I've got the practice

[@caduran9]

15:56 - 18:26 Dude its so funny that your friend keeps dying, dying, dying and dying and you're doing all the work lol

[@CocoBuphs]

"Hornet! I got 10 FPS right now" lol

[@ItztheMeno]

😂

[@tugbandi]

Poor Fronkie being cannon fodder

[@dims4627]

I love using this weapon just for aesthetics, it's so slick

[@IHopeYourEKeyBreaks]

2:03 Don’t we all buddy… don’t we all…

[@user-lw9iz9wr1u]

Every time i entered the south of greystone's pit and facing north, FPS drops below 40

[@TheBittersweetFox]

What I see in the name of the video: Hornet has been nerfed again... =) That trio slaughter at the start (on extraction) was so cool

[@collinholwerda5859]

didn't know penny shot is so effective against barricaded doors wow!

[@t_tkuro]

I think Hornet has skipped the part where carbine is nerfed for everybody else...!

[@amiraziz2331]

In this update they added high velocity to Marathon, Drilling and Martini... until some months ago the only medium ammo gun which had high velocity was the Vetterli, later they added it to Springfield which was fine but they overdid it giving also to the Centennial and then the Pax and the Scottfield, one secondary of the medium ammo was needed because for most of the time none of the medium ammo revolvers had high velocity... so seeing they are adding high velocity to that many guns I'm fine they nerfed some aspect of this ammo. Ofc some weapons are heavely nerfed with high velocity like the Carbine, Vetterli which no longer kills with one tap on the chest to a hunter who's been downed once and someothers that now are not worth with high velo. which sucks but that's how's it now :)

[@KornbreadTV]

Yeah, hopefully they rework Special Ammo altogether. It should be setup to where if you wanna use Poison ammo then they are some advantages and disadvantages in that you have to use certain weapons to have access to the ammo and so forth. With every weapon having every ammo type it makes some weapons obsolete. At least in higher elo.

[@amiraziz2331]

@@KornbreadTV Yeah exactly. Remember when they buff dum-dum ammo? Then using the Springfield was special beacuse it was the only medium ammo gun with bleeding, later they added dum-dum to Centenial and the Springfield was not that unique.

[@KornbreadTV]

@@amiraziz2331 Yup! ..& I haven’t used Dum Dum Springfield since really.

[@Explodinglol]

Hornet really just out here proving semi-auto is better.

[@clownworld4655]

Idk if I’m going insane or just ignorant about something, but shotguns in general seem extremely nerfed now too (despite everyone claiming they were buffed). Have gotten dozens of what used to be clear kill shots (we’re talking ads center chest at less than 10m) that don’t put people down now.

[@dr.richarddicknificentm.d.5532]

they were most certainly buffed, could just be a skill issue In all seriousness tho it could also be the servers or people playing on servers they have no right to be on causing hit reg or desync issues, so dead on shots on your end are actually being processed as glancing blows to limbs. People are getting put in lobbies they shouldn't be right now apparently and I've seen a lot more goofy shit connection wise.

[@Alex-G23]

Same thing happened to me, lost count how many times i had some Crown and king with slug picked up from someone, clear shot to the chest from less that 7 meters and still nothing. It feels really weird, i think u have better odds with normal shells

[@clownworld4655]

@@Alex-G23 that’s what I’m talking about is normal. Haven’t used any slugs yet. The Romero still seems pretty solid, but even the rival is scuffing what should be kill shots and the c&k is like a nerf gun. Just had a match where I had 3 hunters in a row that ate 3 shells to the chest (not hitting arms with their side to me) from the c&k at less than 15m before going down. I know the c&k struggles beyond 10-12m to ohk, but it for sure is supposed to be 2 hits max at 15m.

[@dr.richarddicknificentm.d.5532]

@@clownworld4655 I would start looking at your damage report to see if what youre seeing visually is lining up, if youre just doing the classic "I shot him in the chest!!" when in actuality your hipfire was not as accurate as you thought, or potential latency shenanigans. Recording gameplay would help you see whats up as well. I can tell you right now for the vast majority of people and in videos, theyre doing just as good if not better on good latency.

[@clownworld4655]

@@dr.richarddicknificentm.d.5532 these instances were recorded and I reviewed them in slow motion. Definitely upper chest shots while ads (none were hipfire). Even had a couple clear headshots within 10m that failed to kill. Had a few that seemed like bs at first, but were arms/waist shots. I’m thinking it’s a hit reg issue. Not a new issue to hunt if that’s the case I’ve been playing since release and seen my fair share of bs with melee attacks not connecting or downing a hunter then getting downed by that same hunter 1-5 seconds after they are already on the ground.

[@Cxntrxl]

Hornet's teammates only purpose is to burn his necro LMAO

[@abaddon7967]

1:33 you almost died with barel XD

[@omnyy_]

Wdym ?

[@letrashcan6239]

@@omnyy_ guy was trying to hit a barrel with fire ammo

[@Roikenn]

hornet bro, youre crazy as hell at this game

[@53darkknight53]

High velo nerf was one of the most unnecasary nerf they did, Vetterli is even worse now

[@netherphantom6805]

But the thing abıut this is that carbine didn't get nerfed the high velocity got nerfed since high velocity deals less damage. I think the officer carbine is still very good with normal bullets at close range. So it turned into a slightly closer range weapon

[@muffinman5958]

honestly ive been having a lot of success with the deadeye variant, have been getting some 200m headshots with it as the bullet drop of compact isnt really that bad still have to aim quite high though.

[@ТатьянаЧуглова-ж1м]

It did get nerfed, it definitely got velocity down to around 300 ms

[@elegant9973]

​@@ТатьянаЧуглова-ж1мHV gives less MV now, its not 20% its only 15% now

[@realpatty]

cryteks one flaw is that they overcorrect in both directions (fuck the new ui)

[@kukajin9560]

My slime loadout is officer carbine. But with poison and a suppressed nagant with poison for mobs and extra ammo.

[@Alcor151]

3:29 man this was funny

[@demondorito673]

So HV ammo was nerfed, but was the officer carbine also nerfed too?

[@SeasonedSalmon]

How was the officer carbine nerfed? Was the same done to the officer pistol?

[@tobybll]

I had pretty good games with it since the new update. I did not look at its stats tho, so I did not even realize it

[@vargabence2022]

Dude.. In your highlighted moments Fronkie looks like amature shooting dummy who is waiting for carry :DDD

[@Garryo_27]

As a new player, I always wonder why would you use your medkit in situations like 0:20? You are not in immediate danger and you got your regeneration shot running. Just in case someone shoots at you from somewhere else? No hate, just asking.

[@QuasarSevilla]

00:58 similar situation. But you say he is "not in immediate danger" which you never know, the guy who came out of the window would have 1 tap kill if he didn't manually heal with aid kit. Better be safe than sorry 😅

[@ROTHSCHILDMEDIA]

Cause regen takes more time to heal. He’s pushing all the time

[@b-rett614]

so it’s about time on target all the time spent at low HP is time for another team, pve, mistakes or ground gained by enemy positioning is far more important than being resourceful in late game hunt

[@b-rett614]

genuinely hope i helped and wasn’t condescending

[@Garryo_27]

@@b-rett614 Thanks, yea it makes sense to be always 100% since you never know if someone else watches you and kills you from behind.

[@qawi272]

I hate what they did to pistols in general. I can't equalize the Nagant Precicion through aim because of pistol bullet drop.

[@kingkiller_1001]

Was that Delaney in that first clip

[@EmilyRose0]

But the last change to the Carbine was a buff right?

[@7DR4ES7]

When was the nerf applied? Were there other balance changes?

[@ТатьянаЧуглова-ж1м]

Most of the guns got rebalancing on the 1896 update, read patchnotes

[@FaidedChainsawGuy]

Thing was weak when I joined hunt then they gave it a little buff made it useful then they try to bury it again. Beautiful logic

[@burritoranosaurus2704]

Whos the guy he plays with around min 17? Dont recognize the Voice, is it his Brother?

[@alex_uzl]

10:13 Typical info I can get from my team

[@FaLLen_Eagle]

Drop Range Killed Nagant carbine And Nitro Ex Rifle 🖤

[@alatiel11]

Nitro would be fine if they didn't add projectile deviation similar to how they did to slugs. As if nitro already wasn't nerfed enough. It literally causes *light* bleed at 40 m and further after they nerf bleed ammo (medium ammo dum dum only cause light bleed after 80 m). Though maybe I would reduce oneshot range of the shredder ammo to the level of normal ammo (43 m), because it kinda didn't make sense that they had an improved range (58 m after the nerf, it used to be 75 m lmao). It's very sad that instead of feeling cool after killing somone with it, I think "bruh I was lucky". Drop range actually didn't change anything about the gameplay with it, you just can't snipe with it anymore.

[@alatiel11]

I mean, it's still very strong gun, but I absolutely hated *the way* they nerfed it. While leaving its underpowered (compared to shredder) normal ammo untouched. Like, why can't it oneshot hunters through thin sheet of metal (it only does 72 damage), but oneshots through thick brick wall without any problem. It doesn't make sense at all.

[@MsTebim]

HV ammo deals less damage , realize it when playing the winfield

[@lenox9524]

Krag or drilling better?

[@thegodroxas239]

krags large ammo so i tend to like it more.

[@daemonfifield1242]

ive been doing better with the officer carbine this update than i ever have before and idk why

[@xephronzz9585]

omg hornet the second game YOU DIDN'T RELEASE THE TRUE ENDING LMAO

[@nomercy2872]

Fronkie the entire video :💀

[@temniydayver1468]

Try bornheim precision, like caranine but stats are berter)

[@Aanderan]

Whyyy lmao winnies, nagant precision, lemat marksman and marathon still exist while having similar performance albeit with the need for perks

[@KornbreadTV]

Wrong. All those weapons are completely different and fill different roles and play styles. The Winfields are fast-firing rifles great for continuous DPS, the Nagant Precision is a precision rifle substitute meant for clutch headshots only, the LeMat Carbine (my baby) is a versatile powerhouse with a moderately fast fire rate and single-slot shotgun Underbarrel, and the Marathon is a hip-fire champion that is similar to the Winfield, but with better accuracy. They all have their similarities when it comes to stats, but play much differently.

[@xNord1x]

@@KornbreadTV i was looking for this comment, it represents exactly what I feel about current state of the game, everything is playable and can be used but with different playstyles and situations (not only long ammo spitzer and dolch p)

[@Aanderan]

@@KornbreadTV while I somewhat agree - the winnies have always been the ideal head poppers. There's nuance between these weapons yes and I'm not going to say they're just sidegrades, it's just weird the carbine keeps being dealt negative stat tweaks while there's a slew of weapons which perform in a similar manner with a slightly slower cycle time with their associated perks Lemat gang

[@KornbreadTV]

@@Aanderan I disagree that the Carbine is being dealt a bad hand because it got hella buffed recently with increased velocity and the shotgun attachment buff. I used to strictly use FMJ and Slugs on it, but now I don’t use any special ammo on it whatsoever. Heck, one game I forgot to equip a primary and ran the gauntlet. I could’ve picked up a secondary, but I just simply forgot since I was constantly fighting and rotating 😂

[@_GENERALIEN]

if they nerf it ones again it shoots darts

[@snoe5523]

my games super dark is there a way to fix that

[@TheFrozenSwede]

Go to settings and change your gamma

[@onepunchman4719]

Luv your content Mr. Hornet :D

[@RimaSuit]

So this is literally dolchp but worse in every way, as a 3 slot and without fmj. Officer Carbine was one of my favorites but yea, won't play it much if at all anymore. rip HV :

[@Shrimpinkindofman]

It’s a fraction of the cost man…

[@RimaSuit]

@@Shrimpinkindofman Oh yea, money is actually a thing in this game. Sadly it's infinite and no costs matter - literally worthless and not something to balance around.

[@Shrimpinkindofman]

@@RimaSuit it’s gonna be ok brother

[@RimaSuit]

@@Shrimpinkindofman it's just another weapon amonst dozens that get nerfed while the meta options are untouched. Same old story but sad nonetheless.

[@kreb9721]

@@RimaSuit just like in real life

[@greentmlightedition525]

HV look what they did to my boy

[@rucola007]

Who is this at 1:51 ?? Do they know eachother?

[@Napstablooky]

rachtaz, they play together pretty often

[@burgersquinn]

LMAO classic james

[@smokeythatme]

goated aim

[@cymbolicjedi]

howd he know he knew those dudes lol?

[@jurretiel1348]

Such good video, thank you for explaining and communicating the nerfs and changes to the gun in the beginning of the video! So much work goes into ur editing it’s crazy keep up the great work 💀

[@hornetlul]

useless comment , the time it took you to type that you could have read the description but i guess the next thing you would say u dont know how to read 💀

[@Analdil]

thank god they nerfed officer, its unbareable to see anything else then mosin/krag dolch p

[@deadhelix]

I just want fmj for it ngl

[@montana2806]

When did it get nerfed?

[@richardfierro2699]

hi velo changes.

[@NightFlutter]

bullet drop is too low

[@Mister_Fancypants]

In a update.

[@noonia]

ye the carbine had its time. Let shotguns take over for now ;)

[@dragon_1062]

noooooooo ,y favorite gun

[@logictom7254]

I get the first nerf, but the second, really?

[@CrOzZtheBozZ]

and i just got the skin for it aswell 😭

[@berothenero4048]

🎉

[@VadimFilchenkov]

wtf 4090 13900 - 200 fps, my 3060 12400 (5k mhz) - 100fps

[@NinschgoHD]

My ryzen 7 7800x3d and radeon rx 7900xtx produces around 600fps With the New enginge and the frame Generation (das from amd) Without around 350

[@fulgord4134]

um mean hight velo nerfed not the weapon itself it's clic bait at this point

[@hornetlul]

@@fulgord4134 yea play regular carbine in 6*

[@Purifactor]

Watching this on pc with the constant little hops and adadad really kinda ruins the game and makes it silly vs console.. It takes skill to be that way and as good at aiming while doing it (even with a mouse) But it kinda ruins any game and makes it silly. I feel like the stamina shot should be removed so it’s not as possible

[@leonpascal1328]

Man i love this game and your videos, but sadly cant really enjoy it at the moment. Full 6 star lobbies and the game either crashes,stutters or FPS drop. You open the map and have to sometimes restart because you get stuck in the map. More delayed Deaths/Trades then ever. Its really more of a gamble to have a decent round it seems.

[@BenRobinson-km2tj]

I know for the map, it only happens when the boss is being banished. Supposed to be a patch pending certification. There was supposed to be a stability update today, havent played to see

[@rebel185]

nice, spam weapons need to be nerfed

[@sofaloaf42069]

HORNET HORNET ! I got 10 fps rn :3

[@_GENERALIEN]

i hate when you do such titles but not explain at the start of the video

[@hornetlul]

i also hate when people are lazy to read descriptions but whatever right

[@_GENERALIEN]

@@hornetlul i would end this conversation with a third passive aggressive message but i guess i started it sorry

[@Calypso694]

They really need to get rid of half of their inventory for this. Bunch of shotguns are useless. Bunch of rifles are useless. Bunch of pistols are useless. There like 3 of each everyone goes back and forth between not 10 or whatever.

[@xNord1x]

Its called meta my guy, in every single competitive game meta will push some guns/characters over another, im not saying consecutive nerfs to some guns are necessary, but you can’t make everything in the game meta. But i can 100% sure say that in this state of the game most the guns are playable and you can make everything work

[@MediaevalJames]

Arguably the only "useless" shotgun is the Specter Bayonet, but even then some people prefer it over the Slate Riposte. Otherwise I think you're confusing useless for redundant (which also isn't true).

[@Calypso694]

@@xNord1x I’m not even talking about meta I’m just saying there’s way too many guns that are virtually te same. Having scope version for long rifles? Cool. Having bayonets when they are slower than a knife? Pointless. Having 10 different rifles with minor adjustments is pointless as well. Same for pistoled etc. I get it. It’s the west and there actually are a thousand different revolvers and people like what they like but I feel Hunt should look at the stars of what everyone across the game on console and PC use most and eliminate the stuff that’s hardly if ever used Meta or not.

[@Calypso694]

@@MediaevalJames for me personally I find total inconsistency with shotguns. Ammo choice of not I can be point blank, get a chest hit and they are still alive but other times I’m 30m, same chest shot and they die? Even testing them out in the shooting range shows inconsistent performance. A chest shot id a chest shot so why is the damage different each time even when it’s the same distance?

[@xNord1x]

@@Calypso694 i mean you can just not use bayonets if you don’t like it, its just 10$ more in prise, also it has the same crosshair shake as normal gun now and i can tell at least 2 uses of bayonets that comes to my mind immediately. 1. If you are running spear only as a melee tool (as you should do rn, cause its op) and you can just miss your spear and get stuck without melee tool, but bayonet is your safe variant for these cases 2. Switching to your knife is slower than hitting someone with bayonet, also you can kill AI without switching to your melee if you in a gunfight and have to hold the angle but AI bothers you. And also having a gun with different melee type on it such as “trauma” gives you more options of killing Immolators, cause they are weak to crushing damage (as an example). Everything i said is completely optional, but it gives versatility

[@eatthebroccoli3612]

:)

[@OperatorTereré]

Good hope they remove it entirely next

[@SeasonedSalmon]

Unpopular opinion lol

[@OperatorTereré]

@@SeasonedSalmon very popular I'm afraid, a lot of people don't like high fire rate guns

[@Ace-qo9sy]

@@OperatorTereréright. because it was definitely the meta before the update xd. as long as you play your cover well and respect the gun, it’s not impossible to play against.

[@justin541]

Someone gets shit on by the carbine 🤣

[@OperatorTereré]

@@justin541 t. someone that can't land headshots

[@origami890]

first

[@GuardianMehmed]

h